So what exactly is this thing?

Are senators & representatives going to fire questions at him, or what?

actually its at 9 PM, not 8 PM

I have class :(

Damn.

fn;ww

fox news ; W? W?

fox news; wil whacksittoit

(that or "won't watch")

I think Barack gets his hair cut every day.
Anyone else watching NBC? When Obama said something like "Next year, some car will come off the assembly line in America, but the battery in it will be made in Korea! We can't let that happen anymore!", the NBC cameras cut to the applauding floor and I think it was a coincidence but they flashed on some Asian congressman and he just had this look like "Uh-Oh" on his face. Just found that funny.
LOL@ Pelosi jumping up by herself too early to applaud on the healthcare thing.

bullets, new schtick

I couldn't get through 5 minutes of it. The applause-fest was distracting and somewhat nauseating.

So Mxy, I 'heard' something today that I'm not sure is true, but has BO spent more money in the first 23 days of his administration then the Iraq, Afghan, Katrina cost put together?

I heard that Bush spent more money in the last three months of his administration than IRaq, Afghanistan, and Katrina put together.

I believe that too. Is that correct though?

Did anybody see Debbie Stabenow when they did the camera shots looking out into the crowd.

Stood out like a fat Debra Messing.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_3TkcLK-uSTQ/Roa_qGDamkI/AAAAAAAAAHM/T9ExWUUVSDQ/s400/Debbie+Stabenow.jpg

What did people think of the Jindal reply?

It seemed awfully flat and stale to me, but I only watched the first few minutes because of an unexpected knock at the door.

I didn't see it. Hopefully the knock at your door was a hottie.

What did people think of the Jindal reply?

It seemed awfully flat and stale to me, but I only watched the first few minutes because of an unexpected knock at the door.
I think Jindal's reply and the republicans' attitude in general is completely killing them. They just seem so out of touch and desperate, and the polls back that up. I have to think that they're doing all this so that they have soundbytes to back up being opposed to the current plan if it fails, and then they'll be backing off soon so they can cover both sides.

It seems so transparent, i'd be embarrassed if i were them.

lol

I didn't see Jindal's speech last night.

It's obvious he's paving the way to be the GOP candidate for 2012.

He's going to have his hands full.

I'd rather Palin be the GOP candidate in 2012, so we can just get it over with and be done with her.

I believe that too. Is that correct though?

Iraq is ten billion a month. That's a lot of months to get it up to 800 billion. So I think the Obama thing is correct.

The long-term costs for Iraq are huge, and come out of different piles of money than the $10-12 billion/month Iraq appropriations. Think about the long-term medical and education expenses, long-term costs associated with a continued presence even after the "war troops" go away, the tax benefits to employers with employees called to action, etc. That's why it can credibly be called a trillion+ dollar war even though we haven't spent that much on it directly yet.

More money was spent on bailouts under Bush than under Obama, thus far, and that's even if you account for half the TARP funds not being spent under Bush. The AIG bailout, Fannie+Freddie bailouts, various bank bailouts, etc. add up to some huge numbers -- I seem to recall it being $1.8 trillion. Ahh, just dug it up. Here it is:

http://www.greenfaucet.com/?q=node/2754


• $700 Billion – Treasury to purchase toxic mortgages and other non-performing assets from financial institutions.
• $50 Billion – To guarantee principal in money market mutual funds.
• $10 Billion+ – Treasury purchases of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) in September. More to come.
• $144 Billion – In additional MBS purchases by FNM and FRE. Limit $850 billion. FNM’s portfolio currently holds $758.1 billion and FRE holds $798.2 billion.
• $85 Billion – AIG bridge loan giving the Fed a 79.9% controlling stake in the firm.
• $87 Billion – Repayments to JP Morgan (JPM) for providing financing to underpin trades with the now bankrupt Lehman Brothers. In response to the Fed & Treasury’s stand against providing public funds to consummate a deal.
• $200 Billion – $100 billion capital infusion for FNM and FRE by the Treasury.
• $300 Billion – Provided to the FHA to refinance failing mortgages into new, reduced principal loans with a federal guarantee as part of the housing bill. • $4 Billion – Provided to local communities to purchase and repair abandoned homes due to foreclosure.
• $29 Billion – Financing for JPM’s takeover of Bear Sterns. The Fed takes $30 billion in non-performing assets as collateral.
• $200 Billion – Currently outstanding loans to banks through the Fed’s Term Auction Facility. Recently updated to allow loans of 84 days in addition to the original 28-days.

Whack off $350 billion of that because half the TARP money is being spent under Obama, but you still have $1.5 trillion under Bush for bailouts, vs. $1.2 trillion or so for Obama. So far.

Didn't watch it, but caught the reactions on CNN. They said Obama gave a good message but it doesn't mean a thing if it isn't delivered on.

About Jindal...the republican strategists said he speech wasn't great. However, they also said it's a bad position to be in and perhaps he should have turned down that speech opportunity.

Michael Steele should've done the speech, not Jindal.

Questionable strategy, if you ask me. I don't understand what 'good' could possibly have come out of following-up on Obama's address.

I watched Jindal on MTP, I thought he was awful. He would make a statement, get asked a follow-up, and just restate. He's going to need a lot of polish to make it on the big stage.

Iraq is ten billion a month. That's a lot of months to get it up to 800 billion. So I think the Obama thing is correct.

Thanks

Jindal's wild 'pork' claims (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1035649)

The Louisiana governor rips funding for "volcano monitoring" and "levitating" trains in the stimulus plan.

I LOVE IT!

VOLCANOES ARE DONE OBAMA! FUCKING LIBS! DAMN IT!

Seriously, this alone would have made my day!

I wish they had that train from Denver to Keystone so I could get the the ski slopes in a half hour instead of 2 hours (3 hours with bad traffic)

Kidding aside, it would save a shit load of carbon emissions.

It is pretty effing awesome.

Jindal's wild 'pork' claims (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1035649)

The Louisiana governor rips funding for "volcano monitoring" and "levitating" trains in the stimulus plan.
The Republican war on science bugs the shit out of me. Reagan was Mr. fucking Star Wars... maybe they should take a cue from their icon.

I love how they insist on limiting funding for science on the one hand but insist on American innovation as the only thing to save the economy on the other.