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Zip Goshboots
12-21-2008, 03:19 PM
Many on Scout are calling for Jay Hopson. Yup, our esteemed linebacker "coach" for one whole 3-9 season.
They are the same people who blamed Scott Shafer for the demise of UM football this year.
I guess Shafer's defense holding Toledo to two field goals cost UM that game. I guess the offense that set a record for "3 and oots" and left Shafer's defense no time to rest, adjust, or even catch a breather for 12 games shouldn't be blamed, since Rodriguez is an "offensive genius".

Did I mention how the offense and special teams helped Shafer with 60 bazillionty eleventy grillion hundredy thirty nine patrillion turnovers, many of them inside UM's 40 yard line?

But now they want to turn to a guy who was a mediocre DC at Souther Mississippi. Part of the reason is that Hopson has been labled a "great recruiter" by King Beaver of Scout. Yup, the shaky committments of Pearlie Graves and DaQuinta Jones, as well as all the success he is having recruiting Mississippi:lionsmao: has people thinking: "HE'S OUR GUY!"

And wasn't linebacker play last season a bright spot?[smilie=liones.gif]

One season, and the staff is having trouble recruiting a stable class (oh, it's those souther kids. Y'know, like Barnes, Campbell, and Mcneal), is searching for a new DC after scapegoating the last genius and shitcanning him, and the recruiting class is falling in the rankings like a lead balloon (but yeah, I know, recruit rankings are bullshit. They don't mean a thing).

Tough times ahead, people, and UM's defense is going to be The Poop next year after losing a lot of talent.

I'm in favor of giving a guy time. And if any of you think this thing gets turned around before 2011 (that would be Year 4), Brooklyn Bridges are now on sale at buy three, get one free pricing.

So, whom would y'all like to see, or think will get, this most coveted job at one of the nation's elite football programs?:kennythejet:

FillyCheezeSteak
12-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Explain "mediocre DC at Souter Mississippi" please Zippy?

bukdow
12-21-2008, 05:44 PM
The way that guy was scapegoated by RR is pretty shameful. If I were a DC with a future, I wouldn`t go near Ann Arbor because the offense is going to suck next year as bad as it did this year and the defense will lose a lot of talent. Therefore, as DC, you are going to take the red-hot poker further than Shafer did.

Wilfredo Ledezma
12-21-2008, 08:24 PM
The way that guy was scapegoated by RR is pretty shameful. If I were a DC with a future, I wouldn`t go near Ann Arbor because the offense is going to suck next year as bad as it did this year and the defense will lose a lot of talent. Therefore, as DC, you are going to take the red-hot poker further than Shafer did.

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

It`s like you only try to convince yourself when you post.

You constantly live in a state of denial.

Sad for a person with two college degrees.

Glenn
12-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Tom Izzo.

Zip Goshboots
01-10-2009, 11:34 AM
Last night on Scout, rumors started circulating (strong rumors, as they were put out by King Beaver) that UM is narrowing the search, and two leading candidates have emerged.

1) Greg Hudson of ECU. MEEEEHHH PUKE BaRf WHO?

Are you ready for this?

JIM HERRMANN

Discuss.

Jethro34
01-10-2009, 11:55 AM
Ugh. No good on the Jim Herrmann thing. I think it was clear when he left the first time that the game had passed him by a bit.
However, I do think there is one potential benefit from bringing Herrmann back. It reunites new Michigan with old Michigan. Fred Jackson is currently the only link. Herrmann would help because he had relationships with HS coaches in the state, and he has a relationship with Carr. Re-selling the program to the old school base couldn't hurt. Herrmann knows about directing a defense in the Big House, where Shafer seemed to be in over his head at times.

Hudson, however, while not having a spalshy name actually has a pretty nice resume. Don't dismiss some of the accomplishments just because they were with a CUSA team. Read the profile. 10 of 11 starters got mention for all-conference honors (not necessarily first or second team). His defenses are argressive and on the ball. Sure tacklers. They force turnovers. Plus he has Big Ten experience and knows the Midwest, being from Notre Dame and having spent time at Minnesota and Cincinatti.
From the ECU site:

It has taken just three years for Greg Hudson's reputation in the Big 10 Conference to follow him to East Carolina University where he has quickly molded and transformed the Pirate defense into one of the most physical, ball-hawking and stingiest units in the nation.

Hudson, who is also directly responsible for the entire linebacking corps after working exclusively with the middle linebackers in 2006 and the safeties a year earlier, promptly began his repair work on a Pirate defense during his initial season. His squad ended the `05 campaign standing among the nation's top 20 pass defense units, allowing a paltry 184.9 yard a game. His scheme also paved the way for 15 interceptions during the year before following with 16 (2006) and 17 (2007) picks respective seasons later - ECU's highest totals since 1999.

In addition to recording a seven-year high in interceptions, Hudson's relentless 2006 squad played a pivotal role in the program's rebirth that resulted in the school's first bowl appearance since 2001 by allowing just 20.8 points per game - a mark which ranked among the top five Pirate teams since 1980.

Hudson's rapidly-developing lore as a run-stopping specialist has been strongly supported by his last two units. After inheriting a squad that surrendered 233.3 yards a game and ranked 114th nationally against the rush in 2004, he has methodically built and nurtured a cohesive group that has allowed just a combined 143.7 yards on the ground per contest and held nine opponents under the 100-yard ledger in 2006 and 2007.

Since Hudson has guided East Carolina's defensive efforts, he's also put a premium on his unit's ability to rack up take-aways. After breaking even in 2005 with 20 forced turnovers, the Pirates followed with 27 in 2006 (+4) before notching 31 last season to earn a No. 4 national rank and No. 1 Conference USA standing with a +1.31 margin. In fact, ECU was among the leaders at the FBS level with multiple turnover contests, tallying two or more in 11 of 13 games and three or more in six battles.

Under his tutelage, a program-high 10 defensive players earned various All-Conference USA honors in 2007 - including linebackers Pierre Bell and Fred Wilson.

His appointment at ECU officially ended a four-year tenure at Minnesota where he served for four seasons, beginning in 2001. After spending the first two seasons as the Gophers' linebackers coach and recruiting coordinator, he was promoted to defensive coordinator prior to UM's appearance in the 2002 Music City Bowl against Arkansas and remained in that capacity for the following two seasons.

After holding the Razorbacks' 11th-ranked rush offense to just 80 yards during the Gophers' 29-14 win, Hudson followed in 2003 by heading a Minnesota defense which allowed just 21.9 points per game (second-lowest average by an UM unit since 1985), 340.4 yards a contest (second-lowest average since 1980) and 122.7 rushing yards per game, which was the second-lowest average against the Gophers since 1962. In fact, Minnesota earned top 35 national statistical rankings in all three categories during the `03 campaign while also allowing opponents a little over three yards per carry.

Hudson's defense turned in another productive performance in 2004, standing 16th nationally in turnover margin (+.73), 44th in scoring defense (23.4 ppg) and 49th in rushing defense (140.4 ypg).

Prior to his stay at Minnesota, Hudson spent four years (1997-2000) at Cincinnati, where he helped lead the Bearcats to national prominence which included a pair of bowl appearances in three seasons. As assistant head coach and linebackers coach, he was instrumental in the transformation of UC's defense into the top-ranked unit in Conference USA. The Bearcats were exceptionally proficient in forcing turnovers, ranking sixth nationally in that category in 2000 with a plus-12 margin. Hudson also coached the offensive line (1997) and running backs (1998) before moving over to defense.

Before his move to Cincinnati, Hudson spent three seasons on Skip Holtz' staff at Connecticut in 1994, 1995 and 1996 as the Huskies' offensive line coach. Behind his efforts, UConn averaged over 4,000 yards per season during that span.

Hudson began his coaching career in 1990 at the University of Redlands (Calif.), serving as linebackers coach for the Bulldogs before returning to alma mater Notre Dame in 1993. While coaching the Fighting Irish offensive line that season as a graduate assistant, he helped lead Notre Dame to an 11-1 record, which included a 24-21 win over Texas A&M in the 1994 Cotton Bowl and a final No. 2 rank. He also coached Aaron Taylor, who captured the Outland Trophy as the nation's top lineman in 1993 and was a first-round draft pick by the Green Bay Packers.

Hudson was a two-year participant as a linebacker at Notre Dame in 1986 and 1987 and earned his bachelor's degree in sociology in 1990 before adding a master's from Redlands in 2000. He was a prep All-America selection as a linebacker at Moeller High School in Cincinnati.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-10-2009, 03:35 PM
I like Hudson, he's cut in the mold of Jay Hopson, who was a highly regarded coordinator at Southern Miss...

I'm not high on Herrmann. He already ran his course here...

Zip Goshboots
01-11-2009, 01:08 AM
Hopson wasn't a highly regarded anything, you little shit. He was brought in to help RR extablish some recruiting down souf (not a bad strategy I might add), but his defenses at Southern Miss were pretty MEH. Hudson? Ah what the fuck, let's take some kind of lukewarm prospect and make him the DC at Michigan. Yeah, that will work, won't it COUGH Scott Shafer COUGH.

The fact is, Will, that until UM's offense clicks, any defense is gonna be left out on an island, playing 57 minutes a game and having to deal with turnovers that back them up to their own goal line.

Herrmann likes to attack, and he would be pretty good with the athletes that Rodriguez is trying to bring in. Think about it for a moment beyond the Scout Pack mentality, and you just might have a moment of clarity that doesn't involve asking your father for money.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-11-2009, 09:04 AM
You are wrong Zip, Hopson was named the All-American Football Foundation Top Assistant Coach in 2007...

Those are pretty high regards, if you ask me.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-11-2009, 05:07 PM
New name has surfaced...

Chuck Heater. UM alum, currently the Defensive Backs coach and recruting coordinator at Florida...

keep an eye on it

Zip Goshboots
01-11-2009, 05:42 PM
You are wrong Zip, Hopson was named the All-American Football Foundation Top Assistant Coach in 2007...

Those are pretty high regards, if you ask me.

Don't fuck with me.
Are you fuking with me? Well, DON'T.

Zip Goshboots
01-11-2009, 05:47 PM
New name has surfaced...

Chuck Heater. UM alum, currently the Defensive Backs coach and recruting coordinator at Florida...

keep an eye on it

Will:

The way I interpreted King Beaver's post on the subject: He said former player AND coordinator. I'm thinking (hoping) that he meant Heater AND Strong are being talked to. I think that'd be the right move for Strong. It may be a reach, but one can hope.
Chuck Heater, on the boner scale, doesn't even rate a "tingle in the balls" that proecedes an even miniscule amount of blood flow into the shaft. This is goddamm mother fucking Michigan, motherfucker fuckey fuck goddamm cockfucker ass bitch! You shouldn't be going down to the Goddamm jesus h christ fucking goddamm fucking fucketty fuck DOllar General Store for you fucking fuck FUCK FUCK FUCK coaches.:kennythejet:

Zip Goshboots
01-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Here's some info on Chuck Heater.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10867680

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-11-2009, 11:02 PM
It's not Charlie Strong, he was definitely referring to Heater...


Besides, why the fuck would Strong leave Florida to come here?

Zip Goshboots
01-12-2009, 10:08 AM
If you look at Strong, for some reason he cain't get an HC gig. Maybe he feels the need to move? I don't know. I think I read the Beaver Speak wrong is all, and I got a major boner. Sue me.

Anyway, Heater doesn't seem like such a bad choice after all, upon further review. Shit, if the offense picks up and the mistakes are cut in half, ANY defensive coordinator is going to look like Buddy Ryan in 1985 after last year.

Glenn
01-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Tom Izzo.

I keep hearing this.

Zip Goshboots
01-12-2009, 10:36 AM
And it never gets old.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Former Syracuse HC Greg Robinson's name is being kicked around now.

Glenn
01-13-2009, 04:19 PM
That would be a good get.

Not sure how long he'd be around though, especially if he does a good job.

I guess you can say that for any DC, though.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-13-2009, 07:24 PM
I guess you can say that for any DC, though.

Unless it's Jim Herrmann.

Glenn
01-15-2009, 03:42 PM
Former Syracuse HC Greg Robinson's name is being kicked around now.

Gregg Williams to run Saints defense (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhX4psxthj9x.cff8l_qUEA5nYcB?slug=ap-saints-williams&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-15-2009, 04:18 PM
Different guy, Glenn.

Glenn
01-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Different guy, Glenn.


Ah, my bad.

That's funny. I thought the same guy that used to coach the Bills went on to Syracuse.

Timone
01-15-2009, 04:24 PM
Damn, Glenn...

Glenn
01-15-2009, 04:25 PM
I guess that extra "g" is key.

Gregg Federer.

Timone
01-15-2009, 04:26 PM
When you fuck up like that, you've GOTTA remember


At least I'm not LDB

Vinny
01-15-2009, 04:53 PM
I guess that extra "g" is key.

Gregg Federer.

Yeah, that and the whole different last name thing.

Glenn
01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Fuck.

I think I need a week's suspension or something.

Timone
01-15-2009, 04:57 PM
This is what they call EPIC FAIL on the e-streets.

bukdow
01-15-2009, 06:04 PM
Its no big deal, Glenn. Seriously. Kind of.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-16-2009, 08:08 AM
Fuck.

I think I need a week's suspension or something.

Don't sweat it. I do it all the time (on here).

Glenn
01-16-2009, 08:21 AM
The funny thing is, at least to me, that this isn't an isolated or recent misconception on my part.

I've been confusing these two names in my head for a couple of years now, apparently.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-16-2009, 01:15 PM
All signs are pointing to Greg Robinson being the man. An official announcment could come soon...

Safe hire if you ask me. G-Rob has had some excellent success as a DC, more recently at Texas back in 2004.

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-16-2009, 01:15 PM
I'd rather have had Heater, but I can live with Robinson.

Tahoe
01-16-2009, 01:31 PM
I never misspell names.

Glenn
01-16-2009, 01:38 PM
I'm happy for Gregg Williams in any case.

Wizzle
01-20-2009, 01:30 PM
http://images.sundaymorningqb.com/images/admin/GROB.jpg
Robinson is one of :us: now, according to Rivals

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-20-2009, 02:57 PM
Seems close to official.

I like the hire, but my guess is if he has any sort of consistent success, he will surely land a HC jig at a non-BCS school within 2 or 3 years.

bukdow
01-20-2009, 04:09 PM
He will make the replacement of RichRod in 2 years a smooth transition.

Glenn
01-20-2009, 04:12 PM
Just to recap...

Greg Robinson
http://www.fleetfeetsyracuse.com/newsletters/beatapril18-05/GregRobinson.jpg

Gregg Williams
http://www.jaguars.com/team/images/180x240/COACH(2778)180x240.jpg

Timone
01-20-2009, 04:51 PM
He will make the replacement of RichRod in 2 years a smooth transition.

But do you think he'll last as long as RR?

Wilfredo Ledezma
01-20-2009, 08:28 PM
He will make the replacement of RichRod in 2 years a smooth transition.

Robinson > Treadwell, nuff said.

Zip Goshboots
01-20-2009, 08:50 PM
So Robinson, who failed MISERABLY as the HC at Syracuse (a school that was regularly in bowl games under its previous coach) will be "hot" if he has a couple good seasons at Michigan again? DING DONG ALERT!

Robinson is a DC, a DC, and a DC. There are some who just are position coaches/coordinators, and then some who can move on. Robinson isn't one who can move on. I think the BIG Q Question with him was whether he would move on if he was successful here, and thus, since he was hired, that answer is probably a "No"

Only at Michigan do people start wondering how long a guy will be here when he either commits, or takes a coaching job in Ann Arbor. Michigan Angst is a beautiful thing on the intranets.

Rodriguez blew it last year by hiring a green guy like Shafer. This type of hire should have been made the day after Rodriguez finished shredding his office furniture and house in West Virginia and packing Rita's hairpsray and leopard pattern clothing up.

Robinson is a proven commodity as a DC. I like the hire. He's been around the college block and brings NFL experience as well.

Some of the so-called "insiders" on Scout keep alluding to a dysfunctional defensive coaching staff from last season. I have to believe that Robinson comes in with a boatload of authority that the other guys have been talked to about respecting, and he has been there to meet and talk to the leftovers as well. They also say on Scout that the DC is kind of the "Head Coach" of the defense, and that Rodriguez really doesn't want to have much to do with that side of the ball, thus a BIg Name with plenty of experience, even some HC experience, should solidify the defensive coaching staff.

This has been a very deliberate process, many names and rumors were tossed out there, but in the end we'll probably find out that Robinson was The Guy all along, and there just had to be major discussions and the establishing of exaclty what would be expected, who would DO what, and how this thing would be moved forward smoothly.

This hire should bring a great deal of respect and credibility to the RR regime, and my nearly perfect ability to judge these situations tells me we have a winner here. To be honest, this is the first time since I started masturbating to pictures of Rita Rodriguez in December, 2007 that I've felt really settled and confident with Rodriguez as the UM coach (that is after the initial euphoria wore off immediately after the hire and I first saw Rita in a leopard skin shirt).

bukdow
01-22-2009, 12:32 PM
Robinson > Treadwell, nuff said.
Well, considering one is an OC and one is a DC, you may finally have a point.