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MoTown
12-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Michigan needs to pick up on this. I can't stand driving 15 miles per hour under the speed limit just because some old woman doesn't know the law.


Left-lane slowpokes drive you crazy?
The words 'move over' -- even if readable in the rearview mirror -- may not mean much to them, but a ticket might. Some states are cracking down.

By Christopher Solomon
In these days of longer commutes and simmering tempers, nothing seems to set off already-testy motorists like the left-lane camper -- the guy or gal who drives in the passing lane and bars faster drivers from easily passing. Web sites have cropped up to educate other drivers, or to vent. There's a (somewhat painful) YouTube song called "Keep Right."

Even bigwigs get frustrated. Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell, weary of having his limo slowed down by such left-lane pokies, ordered an aide to have the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission install signs a few years ago reading "Keep Right, Pass Left. It's the Law."

And now some states are cracking down on left-lane campers, both to keep traffic moving and to tamp down the road rage that goes from zero-to-60 faster than ever before.

That's not just a pretext. Last year, a driver was arrested on Interstate 79 outside Pittsburgh after allegedly brandishing a semiautomatic pistol at a driver who was on his tail.

You could get a ticket
Some states didn't allow left-lane lingering but didn't enforce the law. Now they are.

At the start of the summer, the Washington State Patrol began pulling people over for violating the state's left-lane law, which prohibits "impeding the flow of other traffic."

Talk back: What are your biggest pet peeves on the road?

"This a real big hot-button topic for the public at large right now," says Trooper Cliff Pratt. "We've had a lot of complaints" from drivers who've had to deal with left-lane campers.

So far authorities have been gentle with the $124 ticket; the drivers stopped were given verbal warnings.

Last year, news outlets reported that Oklahoma was bolstering enforcement of its left-lane law as well.

"We deal with it weekly," Lt. George Brown, supervisor of public affairs for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, said of left-lane drivers going too slowly. He's issued more warnings than tickets.

Insurers haven't gotten aggressive yet, either, but this kind of ticket has the potential to raise rates.

"Any moving violation that applies points to a driver's record could affect that driver's car insurance rates," says Susan Gallik Rouser, a spokeswoman for Progressive. "And because left-lane driving would be considered as such an infraction, we would take that into account when renewing a driver's policy."

What's the law in your state?
The laws vary widely, according to John Carr, who works for a software company in the Boston area and who compiled a list of the rules in each state after taking an interest in the issue:

A few states -- for instance, Kentucky, Maine Massachusetts and New Jersey -- permit use of the left lane only for passing or turning left.

Georgia, Colorado and Louisiana follow the Uniform Vehicle Code, requiring drivers to keep right if they're going slower than the speed of traffic.

Wyoming prohibits blocking the far left lane of a highway "for a prolonged period," though it adds that the traffic should be "at a lawful rate of speed."

In Arkansas and South Dakota, vehicles don't have to stay right.

In Alaska, Maryland, North Carolina and Ohio, vehicles can drive in the left lane so long as they're moving at the speed limit.

Florida is trying to join in: Lawmakers reintroduced a Road Rage Reduction Act this year, requiring motorists to stay out of the left lane on interstate highways except when passing. It passed the Legislature in 2005 but was vetoed by then-Gov. Jeb Bush, who questioned whether it was based on sound research.

It's no wonder drivers can be confused, and often frustrated.

DennyMcLain
12-10-2008, 10:25 AM
Florida is trying to join in: Lawmakers reintroduced a Road Rage Reduction Act this year, requiring motorists to stay out of the left lane on interstate highways except when passing. It passed the Legislature in 2005 but was vetoed by then-Gov. Jeb Bush, who questioned whether it was based on sound research.


Now those pinko liberals want their OWN LANE??? Oh hells no!!!

Uncle Mxy
12-10-2008, 11:44 AM
http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

WTFchris
12-10-2008, 12:21 PM
I can tell you Colorado does not police that. I hate that shit. People here are notorious for driving in the left lane even though they have the keep right except to pass signs like every mile along I-25. I say if the sign is there, the cops have every right to pull them over for doing 55 MPH in a 75 MPH zone.

It really is a safety issue because people get pissed and tail gate. Also, they are forced to pass on the right which causes all kinds of problems when you have people merging into the same lane from opposite sides.

geerussell
12-10-2008, 05:07 PM
I'm doin' a hundred on the highway
So if you do the speed limit, get the FUCK outta my way
I'm D.U.I., hardly ever caught sober
and you about to get ran the FUCK over

Move bitch, get out the way
Get out the way bitch, get out the way

UxKa
12-10-2008, 06:48 PM
In my daily commute to work, there's a driver I actually recognize now. If I see her ahead of me (always always in the left lane) I immediately go around. Usually I'm pretty patient, but she never goes more than 5mph under the speed limit. She must leave about 2 minutes before me because I swear I go by her 3 days a week.

On another note, where I live is notorious for tailgaters. What's really annoying is they aren't even trying to get ahead of traffic and speed away, people just follow that close here, worse than anywhere I've ever driven. I'll get over so they can pass and they will switch lanes with me. I'm not talking closer than the 2 second rule either, I'm talking about 3 feet off my bumper. Really pisses me off.

Glenn
12-10-2008, 07:40 PM
In my daily commute to work, there's a driver I actually recognize now. If I see her ahead of me (always always in the left lane) I immediately go around. Usually I'm pretty patient, but she never goes more than 5mph under the speed limit. She must leave about 2 minutes before me because I swear I go by her 3 days a week.


I got a guy I see once or twice a week in the right lane doing 50 in a 70 MPH zone.

Personalized license plates, too, "PROBONO".

WTFchris
12-10-2008, 11:08 PM
Nothing to do with this thread (except the last post), but I just saw a guy with the plate "MLB UMP"

Tahoe
12-10-2008, 11:31 PM
Peeps generally move out of the way if you are in a 1 ton about an inch from their rear bumper. At least thats what works for me.

Fool
12-11-2008, 09:38 AM
That doesn't help Glenn and his Hyundai.

You just strike me as Hyundai guy.

Glenn
12-11-2008, 09:59 AM
I only buy American cars.

Well, from American companies, at least.

WTFchris
12-11-2008, 10:05 AM
I only buy American cars.

Well, from American companies, at least.

Me too. The quality is just as good (it wasn't in the 80's and early 90's) and the profits stay here (even if they do waste my money on shitty GM's that have no business getting extensions).

Uncle Mxy
12-11-2008, 01:30 PM
I only buy American cars.

Well, from American companies, at least.
I usually buy domestic. The only time I bought a foreign car, it was because space was a consideration. At the time, I lived in an apartment complex that was well-located and well-priced for my lifestyle, but parking was tight. As a tall guy, I needed decent headroom so my hair wouldn't be fucked up for work (and shaving my head would've been even worse for my job at the time). I'd sat in all the small car offerings from the Big Three, and simply couldn't find a small car for a tall guy. So, I bought a foreign car.

Glenn
12-11-2008, 01:33 PM
The thought of you selecting a car based on your hairstyle made me lol.

WTFchris
12-11-2008, 01:36 PM
He must be a giant or have a huge fro. I'm 6'1" and my hair does not come close to the roof in my wife's Focus.

Fool
12-11-2008, 01:38 PM
The only time I bought a foreign car, it was because outerspace was a consideration.

Boom

Uncle Mxy
12-11-2008, 03:23 PM
He must be a giant or have a huge fro. I'm 6'1" and my hair does not come close to the roof in my wife's Focus.
I'm 6'5" and I have a long torso. With the Ford I had before, my hair would do this static cling thing to the roof of the car unless I leaned the seat so far back that it'd was a pain to drive. I'm not fussy about my haircut, but where I was working at the time was a conformist atmosphere.

This was a long time ago, BTW. There wasn't a Focus.

MoTown
12-11-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm 6'5" and I have a long torso. With the Ford I had before, my hair would do this static cling thing to the roof of the car unless I leaned the seat so far back that it'd was a pain to drive. I'm not fussy about my haircut, but where I was working at the time was a conformist atmosphere.

This was a long time ago, BTW. There wasn't a Focus.

I have had that problem as well. I'm 6'7 and I have trouble fitting into a lot of cars: knees, hair, whatever. My dad had a CTS that I would drive every once in a while when I lived at my parents house, and if I ever had gel in my hair, I wouldn't fit. Usually my head hit the ceiling anyway, but it wasn't that uncomfortable.

My mom had a Crossfire - I didn't even go there.

I usually stick with Jeeps, but that's up in their air now with the whole auto co. situation.

Glenn
12-11-2008, 03:34 PM
Well I'm 6'10" and ... nevermind

you guys are very tall

MoTown
12-11-2008, 03:36 PM
I also weigh 119 lbs.

MoTown
12-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Pure muscle.

WTFchris
12-11-2008, 04:25 PM
I can see where it would be a problem. I have my seat back all the way in both cars and like I said I'm only 6'1"