So this may or may not DIOT. I think it's prolly justified.

So they're saying potentially 4 million peeps in DC? The million man march stressed the DC police, add over 4 times that amount of peeps and shit could get fucked up.

Rumored to be 10,000 charter buses coming.

Get the porta potties ready.

I can't wait to see his speech. It'll prolly be full of shit, from my pov, but inspiring nonetheless.

If Cal Poly vs UC Davis got it's own thread, this sure does.

Speeches that are both full of shit and inspiring are hard to come by.

Can I have edit rights extended on the first post? This really might be pretty cool and all the fuck and shit I wrote prolly isn't the best thing for this. And I'm pretty serious about that. I dont' really give a shit but for some this is prolly the 2nd coming of JFK.

Better yet, someone else start one and this matriculate into oblivion or something.

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This Inauguration will be open to as many Americans as possible. We'll all come together to celebrate the hope and optimism that define this movement for change.

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TRANSLATION: Just like like when Lucky Charms makes a promotional contest, if we require you to pay money for an entry chance it's called a raffle and if it's an interstate raffle it's called a lotto and we have to have a license for one of those.

Tiger accepts inauguration invitation as speaker (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=3838781)

I can already tell you whats going to happen...

Barack Obama will be speaking of 'change' and a 'new America'...

and the cameras will cut out to some random black woman with tears strolling down her eyes...

then George Stephanopolous will tell us how for all the 'little people' who are struggling in this economy, this is such a big day because it gives them a sense of hope and optomism...



needless to say, Barack Obama doesn't give a rats ass about that crying black woman, the word 'change' is nothing more than an adjective meant to be interpreted how ever way you want it...



only you have the power to dictate what happens in your own life, no politican is going to cater specifically to your needs...

once the inaguaration is over...

if your house is being foreclosed, it will still be boarded up
if you can't find a job, you will still be unemployed
if you don't have any money, you will still be poor
if you still can't afford healthcare, you still won't be able to
if you still can't afford gas, you certainly won't be able to in the coming months
if you've been upset with our Democratic-majority congress the last 2 years (which has a lower approval rating than President Bush), then needless to say, that won't change either

change doesn't have a definition, get ready to be disappointed

So you're saying you aren't smellin what BO is cookin?

http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/Inauguration_bingo_barack_obama.jpg

Scalpers getting 1k for Inauguration tix.

All the know-nothing anchors who will try and compare him to Martin Luther King Jr. (who was a Republican) will make me vomit.

I'm not watching this bullshit on Tuesday.

Fuck Obama.

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/obama_poster_hitler_yesweca.gif

HH

Oh my.

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I would love to know how Obama is the equivalent of a right-wing dictator who was responsible for a world war and the racial genocide of 10 million people in concentration camps. Please, enlighten us.

HH

I'm just wondering what this means...

Edit: nm, I have an idea.

Hey Homes?

I'd love to hear what Wil says when he's around friends.

I'd love to hear what Wil says when he's around friends.

I'd probably even pay money.

I still think he's a cartoon. No way is he real.

Terrible...

That's not it.

I would love to know how Obama is the equivalent of a right-wing dictator who was responsible for a world war and the racial genocide of 10 million people in concentration camps. Please, enlighten us.

Sorry champ, but that one falls into the left wing camp. Hilter was leader of a socialist workers party, (and an emo painter) who turned a republic into a massively centralized bureaucracy/authoritarian state.
Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism/Fascism are not exclusive to left or right wing ideaology.

As for Obama, until congress starts taking power back form the presidency, all presidents from now on have dicator power.
Abortion + whatever wars we get into may not come as closs as the holocaust, but it should be a nice large number of death.

^ Stop reading Jonah Goldberg. He's terrible and all kinds of wrong. Fascism isn't left-wing. It's not exactly right-wing but it's far closer to the right-wing then the left.

Also, Hitler used the Socialist party to get into power but every credible historian will tell you he wasn't a socialist. Hitler abolished unions, didn't really redistribute land as is the typically Communist or Socialist fashion (they didn't seem to care who "owned" property, or that it was owned at all, as long as the owners conformed to state directed goals), fixed profits rather then eliminating them or mandating their distribution to the workers (profit sharing), and was fixated on rewriting history to orient the German "race" under the Nazis as the third great empire of modern Europe (Third Reich) rather than a struggle for the equalization of people's power via the reclamation of the "modes of production".

The National Socialist's (Nazis) began as a movement that preached land redistribution, the elimination of capital gains, and the whole nine yards, and while Hitler speaks to that in some of his public addresses and campaigning, in power the guy was a fascist and Mein Kamptf is a racial call to arms, not a socialist one.

I was venting.


I'm done now.

Now we are equating gassing millions of living people to not taking away people's free choice to abort an unborn baby?

This thread is officially ruined. Great job Wil

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of public urination that is going to take place tomorrow.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of public urination that is going to take place tomorrow.

and we're back on track......nice save, Glenn

All the know-nothing anchors who will try and compare him to Martin Luther King Jr. (who was a Republican) will make me vomit.
Lincoln freed the slaves. Blacks were predominantly Republican -- big shock there. Heck, the first black Senator was a Republican in 1870 in Mississippi. FDR did the New Deal. Then, Blacks leaned Democratic, similarly to how women lean Democratic. Notably, there was significant variation by state -- Southern blacks were Republicans. Then, LBJ did the Civil Rights Act, and the Dixiecrats abandoned ship. A new generation of blacks went WAY Democratic. A number of prominent blacks raised before LBJ stayed Republicans, though -- MLK, James Brown, Jackie Robinson, Ray Charles, Wilt Chamberlain, etc. even as their party largely abandoned them in favor of winning.

One thing I'm sick of...

Liberal pundits & commentators suggesting that Republicans should 'celebrate the moment' and 'put aside our beliefs'.

Why on earth would we do that?!?

Did anybody celebrate when Clarence Thomas was sworn in as a Supreme Court Justice? No, and he has slave blood, something Obama doesn't have.

There is nothing for conservatives to celebrate.

I saw an article on the Politco (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17532.html) which suggested that Barack Obama is trying to 'seduce' Republicans.


Main Entry: se·duce

1 : to persuade to disobedience or disloyalty
2 : to lead astray usually by persuasion or false promises

Great choice of words, dumbass lib.

Most Republicans that I know are, now that the votes are counted, interested in witnessing American history. With Obama being the new leader of our country, they don't wish him any ill will. Some are downright optimistic.

These are good, patriotic and sensible people.

Ledezma is the argument against freedom.

I think most people are able to understand the use of the word "seduce" in that context without having to resort to a textbook definition.

I was venting.


I'm done now.
You've been venting for months you lil' pussy girl. Be a man for once and stop the never ending bloody rag whining you seem to vent every other moment. Maybe if your idols did a better job you could celebrate them. Maybe if you demanded more from them rather than ride to hell with them you'd get better candidates to back.

Whatever the case you being an over grown child is getting old. Maybe you are younger than you say or your parents did a horrible job of making you a man in this world(which wouldn't be a first in this country). But the pussy fits for attention are kinda pathetic at this point.

Y'all should have let Wil's opinions/posts just matriculate, but instead you are turning BO's Inaug thread into a discussion about Wil. Brilliant!

Did anybody celebrate when Clarence Thomas was sworn in as a Supreme Court Justice?
Actually, the nation was really proud of Orrin Hatch. I saw it on the news:
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No, and he has slave blood, something Obama doesn't have.
When you exercise prejudice against a black, do you ask them if they have slave blood first? Sheesh...

Ha! Bill Bonds! I forgot about how local news anchors used to actually stand for something and make hard hitting opinions known. Now it's all fluff and spectacle, they're more like game show hosts.

It's too bad he couldn't stay off the sauce.

Hulu.com (and I'm sure other sites as well) will be carrying this thing live.

LOL@my work. They've set up a couple conference rooms so people can watch it "over their lunch break".

That's actually cool but LOL@ the people who have no clue they could just watch it on their computers at their desks

Hulu.com (and I'm sure other sites as well) will be carrying this thing live.

LOL@my work. They've set up a couple conference rooms so people can watch it "over their lunch break".

That's actually cool but LOL@ the people who have no clue they could just watch it on their computers at their desks

Same here.

I'll probably just flip on the radio, I'm too nervous about witnessing something horrible on TV.

I'll catch a replay when I know that everything went well.

Hulu is broadcasting the Fox feed.

Wil, your argument is stale and weak. It's the angle everyone is looking for.

So try this one:

Read Book of Revelations, and ask yourself if Obama fits the profile?



That should keep you ranting for another year.

Whatever happens, it will get played over and over and over again. I'm an Obama fan, but I don't need "history". The nation does, so there's a big fuckin' party with screaming throngs and crap. I wish the nation weren't so inclined to throw a party as Rome burns, but that's the reality. <sigh>

Apparently Dick Cheney emerged from his underground bunker in a wheelchair.

Cour-Wade-geous.

Perhaps I should be more in respectful awe of the orderly transition of power, because that's hardly a given. Call me jaded on that front.

Lerher said they swear in the new Prez a minute or two before noon because the Constitution declares the old Prez's term over at noon. So for a minute or two we have 2 Prezs I suppose.

Cheney "hurt himself packing".

Barack HUSSEIN Obama, amiriteWil?

"H."

I wish they had said HUSSEIN.

MOTHERFUCKERS.

Let's see what the Onion will say about Obama.

For the record, here's their largely-correct predictions about Dubya from around inauguration-time:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

"H."

I wish they had said HUSSEIN.

MOTHERFUCKERS.

It matters a whole lot, imo.

Perhaps I should be more in respectful awe of the orderly transition of power, because that's hardly a given. Call me jaded on that front.

You are jaded and it is a pretty big deal.


Let's see what the Onion will say about Obama.

For the record, here's their largely-correct predictions about Dubya from around inauguration-time:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

That was just eerie.

It matters a whole lot, imo.

Actually, this is how I imagined it.

"Barack HUSSEIN Obama, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

"SUCKERS!"

You are all class Glenn. All class.

Rick Warren, lol

-- The inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th president of the United States is under way.



No shit?

I'm having flashbacks to talking during church as a kid.

A quick read of Barack's speech suggests that it's good.

No one dead yet Glenn. You are all good for tonight so far.

Where Mxy?

I'm having flashbacks to talking during church as a kid.

I'm having flashbacks to my great grandmother's living room.

No one dead yet Glenn. You are all good for tonight so far.
Cool, I have the audio stream running, just in case.

Sometimes Aretha can't bring it anymore.

So ixnay on the seperationay of churchyay and statenay, eh?

So ixnay on the seperationay of churchyay and statenay, eh?

I have a relative who swears Obama is going to put his hand on the Koran.

I have a relative who swore Obama is going to put his hand on the Koran.

He will, later, during the human sacrifices.

It's the Prez's choice who he wishes to speak at his inauguration. The preacher isn't performing any official roles of state. Separation of Church and state doesn't mean religion is outlawed.

It's the Prez's choice who he wishes to speak at his inauguration. The preacher isn't performing any official roles of state. Separation of Church and state doesn't mean religion is outlawed.

Yeah, I know, just stoking the fires a bit.

Thanks for playing.

Let's get some "Hail to the Victors" going.

I, Barack Hussein Obama

Is this the part where han, luke and chewie get medals?

It was fun to see 3-4 of the hardcore Republicans that I work with storm out of the office about 15 minutes ago for an extended lunch together in a group.

Let's do dis!

It was fun to see 3-4 of the hardcore Republicans that I work with storm out of the office about 15 minutes ago for an extended lunch together in a group.

I take it you didn't join them.

God damn Lib.

Wil will join them.

-- Barack Obama has been sworn in as the nation's 44th president.

What would I do without this service?

It Happened.

Tahoe, what does your Fox News Alert say? Same thing?

Tahoe, what does your Fox News Alert say? Same thing?

lol




:emo kid:

"W's term not extended. :emo kid:"

Fox News just said...Ravens defense = Tired

"Keep fighting the good fight, Tahoe"

Yep, both.

Actually, they're probably quite thrilled. They've got content to bitch and complain about for the next 4 years, at least.

Ratings will surely rise.

It worked for MSNBC.

"Your people will judge you based on what you build, not what you destroy" is really solid.

So when does the 'change' set in?

I'm not going to have to pay rent on my apartment anymore right?

I make $30,000 a year. When should I expect my government handout to come in the mail?

Am I allowed to wear a cross necklace? Or is that a hate crime now?

What has 'changed'?

REPUBLICANS

Seduced yet?

You know what, forget I posted here.

You guys deserve to enjoy this moment. I don't want to be a pest.

Congratulations to BO.

Nothing too spectacular for me in this one. I thought Warrens prayer sucked. <--Lord I appologize. Aretha didn't tear it up and BO's speach was so-so.

But fuck all the pomp and shit, its not about today being spectacular, its about doing a spectacular job at being President. And to that I hope he ROCKS the world.

You know what, forget I posted here.

You guys deserve to enjoy this moment. I don't want to be a pest.

No, keep posting!

The dow is tanking.








Just sayin'.

I can't decide if you hate your country more, or yourself.

I can't decide if you hate your country more, or yourself.


I hate false perception more than both.

An empty barrel makes the most noise.

Sea Chanters.....Grampa what did you do in the service? I was a Sea Chanter. lol

never mind...move along, nothing to see here

I can't decide if I want Wil's parents to pay for his "recreational items" so he won't come around as much or if I wish they didn't pay for his essentials so he couldn't afford to be on as much.

"Your people will judge you based on what you build, not what you destroy" is really solid.

Spoken directly to the Muslim world...btw.

I can't decide if I want Wil's parents to pay for his "recreational items" so he won't come around as much or if I wish they didn't pay for his essentials so he couldn't afford to be on as much.


I'm pretty sure I'm just doing the same thing you did to George W. Bush (unwarranted criticism).

Can you say double standard?

I'm pretty sure I'm just doing the same thing you did to George W. Bush (unwarranted criticism).

Can you say double standard?

Gotta agree a lil bit with ya, Wil. There were Hitler Bush pics posted here.

1) I didn't.

2) Your existence is a saddening the world must endure because of the virtue of freedom.

I'm pretty sure I'm just doing the same thing you did to George W. Bush (unwarranted criticism).

Can you say double standard?
Those aren't even close to being the same thing. If Obama has failed in 3 years, have at it, but on day one? Stop trying to rationalize your immaturity.

Gotta agree a lil bit with ya, Wil. There were Hitler Bush pics posted here.

You know the deal...POIDH

Bush was ripped unjustifiably at times. Just be prepared for it when its your guy in office. Its just the way it is.

Exactly, Vinny. Big difference between poking fun after he demonstrates a repeated record of failure, and doing so on Inauguration day.

Not to mention your posts (Wil) about wanting him killed, something that no one I know has even thought about with Bush, despite his ineptitude and some might say, treason.

Good thing you two are preparing us. Patriots.

Man that trasfer of power is the one of the weirdest things to watch. The older I get the more impressive it is.

A handshake, a wave, etc...and done.

We live in a great nation.

Thinking the same thing. Except for the old part.

Good thing you two are preparing us. Patriots.

That's the neo-con strategy of choice right now.

Build the expectations as high as possible (in a sarcastic manner) and just wait for the first opportunity to strike.

Patriotism at it's finest.

The whole "I'm going to say these things because people said bad things about Bush!" thing is childish, anyway.

The dow is tanking.

Just sayin'.
A lot of institutions are tying their "year-end bad news" to inauguration day because they know the inauguration will mask it. That's par for the course.

http://www.celebnewswire.com/heidi-montag-spencer-pratt-barack-obama-tshirts.jpg

^ Belongs in the Hot Chicks With Douchebags thread.

LDB is always on his toes.

How many Presidents have been lefties?

Whatever, it's worthless trying to make a point in here.

Lord knows 3 years from this country won't be any different then it is now.

We'll still have troops in Iraq, we'll still have massive unemployment, we'll be dumping money into junk science and John D. Cherry will be our in-ept governor.

You don't have a point.

You don't have a point.

I do, it's just not one your willing to grasp.

And I shouldn't have assumed you would have.

Who has stopped you from trying to actually make a point?

You've spewed your garbage plenty. If there was a real point in there, it would have shown itself by now.

You don't have one.

I do, it's just not one your willing to grasp.

And I shouldn't have assumed you would have.

Reason being, Wil is in a league of his own.

Has anyone been listening to the stories about the Prezs or former Prezs as Bush is today? I heard some on Ike, Regan, etc.

They go from being the most powerful person in the world to a citizen.

Every second of the day Bush had to be at the ready for any problems in the entire world...even this morning. And now, later today, he could get blasted on martinis with no worries.

The power isn't an analog thing, its digital. 100% on, 100% off.

It just seems weird.

That's only partially true. As soon as the election takes place the sitting President starts having to take the future President into consideration in regards to the actions he takes. He still technically holds all the governmental power but as a political office the power starts to diminish even before the election (as their actions harm or help the candidate of their party).

Another point raised by someone...forgot who...said its not the opening of the gates and doors but they go from getting daily briefs on everything that happens in the world and tomorrow, no info at all.

That's only partially true. As soon as the election takes place the sitting President starts having to take the future President into consideration in regards to the actions he takes. He still technically holds all the governmental power but as a political office the power starts to diminish even before the election (as their actions harm or help the candidate of their party).

Thats only partially true. :)

Some people I was interacting with felt I was too negative in my assessment of inaugurations. For those people (and they know who they are):

Big Kahuna, the first Hawaiian President is in the house!
Everyone, let's all say "aloha" and get lei'd! :)

Thats only partially true. :)

IYO

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/

Community organizer.

Am I allowed to compare Obama to Stalin now? Or is that a hate crime?

Am I allowed to compare Obama to Stalin now? Or is that a hate crime?

Depends, are you wearing a cross when you say it?

Ledezma is the argument against freedom.

Actually Ledezma is the argument FOR freedom. We all talk about the free and open marketplace of ideas. I honestly believe on some level we can call Wtfdetroit one of those. You guys are allowed to come here and say just about anything you choose. You know you will be answered and questioned or simply ripped on, but you make the decision to come here and post and express yourself.

In such an environment anyone can post anything and anything posted is up for discussion. And in just such an environment noxious, disgusting and hateful statements can be looked at, taken apart and ripped to shreds. Every time Wil spews any of his hateful invective, we have several posters pointing out how pathetic and small his views are. In the free marketplace of ideas we see that Will's ideas aren't worth what the nurses just cleaned out of my mother's bedpan.

I know this is just a sports forum. But even a sports forum with 20 or 30 regular posters can be a great example of why free speech is so valuable. I would always rather the views of the Ledezmas of the world to be found in the open so they can be freely despised than hidden behind closed doors where hate tends to find its best environment to grow.

I also know that this may seem like an over-reaction. Fair enough. But I can't even begin to explain how repulsive I found Wil's two Hitler posts to be. At the same time I'm glad to see how so many other posters on this site had the exact same reaction and even more importantly, called Wil out for the small minded little moron that he is.

Solid.

But at the same time, anytime I post on this forum, I know before I click "Post" what the response will be.

It's part of being in the minority, and I'm okay with that (obvioulsy, or I wouldn't post at all).

I don't give a flying fuck that the Codename V's of the world like to spew insults at my post. Go ahead...

It's a two party system, fellas.


And if you honestly think my Hitler post was anything more than a joke, than you need to get over yourself. Do you really think I applaud threads like these (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9354) where you make a mockery of my religion & God??? Not really, but I don't rip you guys for posting on it nor do I tell you to stop.

Grow some skin.

And the fact that you keep referring to my Hilter post shows how much it bothered you. In which case, I did my job.

And the fact that you keep referring to my Hilter post shows how much it bothered you. In which case, I did my job.

So you're basically a troll then, eh?

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

I agree with detroitexpert. I think Wil and Tahoe should be allowed to voice their opinions, however wrong they may be. I never said they shouldn't. I may say their full of crap, but they still have the right to be that way.

So Wil- your goal was simply to bother people with your post? That's lame.

So Wil- your goal was simply to bother people with your post? That's lame.

Intepret them which ever way you want...

Don't lump Tahoe in with Wil. Tahoe has thoughts of his own. And it's not shocking that Wil's only goal with his posts is to be a moron.

Intepret them which ever way you want...

Not much need for interpretation, that's basically what you said.

And no one has told anybody that they can't post their political beliefs in this forum since the political forum was created, IIRC.

And I agree with Fool re: Tahoe. Half the shit he posts he doesn't believe himself, lol.

Don't lump Tahoe in with Wil. Tahoe has thoughts of his own. And it's not shocking that Wil's only goal with his posts is to be a moron.

Whatever.

Has your life 'changed' for the better today, Fool?

Are you going to be telling your grandchildren about the time you watched the half-negro man get sworn in to office?

Cartoon. Jusssst a cartoon. Noone can possibly really be like this.

Not much need for interpretation, that's basically what you said.

And no one has told anybody that they can't post their political beliefs in this forum since the political forum was created, IIRC.

And I agree with Fool re: Tahoe. Half the shit he posts he doesn't believe himself, lol.


Then theres no such thing as 'right' and 'wrong' (on this board).

In which case, there's no need to criticise me or anybody else for crossing an imaginary boundary.

Chris, I'd like to make a distinction with what you said. I actually don't put Tahoe and Wil in the same boat. I'll be honest here, I almost never agree with anything Tahoe says politically. I would even add that I'm not too impressed with how he debates his ideas. But I've never seen any disrespect from Tahoe and, for what we're talking about here, I've never seen any overt, nasty, racial statements like the many that I've read from Wil.

Wil, there's a difference between political speech and hate speech. You need to learn the difference. You would be right to call out the blasphemy thread, that's a good argument. My personal feelings aside, I agree that it is a thread that can even get a bit nasty to the Christian religion. Even though there is a disclaimer on the first post, you would have a point in showing how some people can find it offensive.

However you lose every ounce of any respect we can have for your ideas when you freely write horribly racist, hateful posts.

Cartoon. Jusssst a cartoon. Noone can possibly really be like this.

Vinny, are you out of rehab (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12018&highlight=rehab+vinny) yet?

When your addicted to that stuff, everything appears to be 'surreal' (a.k.a. a cartoon).

Then theres no such thing as 'right' and 'wrong' (on this board).

In which case, there's no need to criticise me or anybody else for crossing an imaginary boundary.

Being open to post your beliefs also means that anyone is open to criticize them.

You're not going to get off that easy.

W.O.D = banned
Ledezma = valued contributor

I don't give a flying fuck that the Codename V's of the world like to spew insults at my post.
U gave enough of a fuck to respond and reply the "me against the world of WTFDetroit" Minority victim card. You're too much of a child to catch up on your hypocrisies, so by all means believe what you want about them. But accept your criticism w/o trying to hide behind "victim" bullshit.

Well, this thread started off poorly and really never improved, did it?

Well, this thread started off poorly and really never improved, did it?
It's actually pretty happy. Only one person is bitter. And he isn't even man enough to pay his bills and do his own term paper. I think everything goes well otherwise

And lets not forget how many peeps were bitter when 43 was elected.

BO get your ass back inside that fucking car please.

Being open to post your beliefs also means that anyone is open to criticize them.

You're not going to get off that easy.

What's the point? All he does is dodge around his statements. He won't give you any concrete answers on anything.

Nobody should even bother responding to that junk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

Vinny, are you out of rehab (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12018&highlight=rehab+vinny) yet?

When your addicted to that stuff, everything appears to be 'surreal' (a.k.a. a cartoon).

Ledezma'd!

You do know that was a joke, right?

And lets not forget how many peeps were bitter when 43 was elected.
Which has nothing to do with this entire thread noty about the 43rd president's clusterfuck. :) So I'll change my respionse to two bitter people i guess.

What's the point? All he does is dodge around his statements. He won't give you any concrete answers on anything.

Nobody should even bother responding to that junk.
yea, power of the internet, gives not so bright people a vehicle to build arrogance in their ignorant beliefs. He can be anything he wants on his computer w/o the consequence of answering for his stupidity.

Which has nothing to do with this entire thread noty about the 43rd president's clusterfuck. :) So I'll change my respionse to two bitter people i guess.

You should really try to add something to conversations sometime, instead of just attacking posters. But if thats your gig...continue on.

You should really try to add something to conversations sometime, instead of just attacking posters. But if thats your gig...continue on.
godwin's law in effect. You jumped off into an irrelevant element that screamed bitterness.. Rather than defend it spin this into a victim stance? Again i know your pathetic shtick, yet you keep running it on me. WTF Tahoe?

Somebody shoot me if I make another post in this thread.

godwin's law in effect. You jumped off into an irrelevant element that screamed bitterness.. Rather than defend it spin this into a victim stance? Again i know your pathetic shtick, yet you keep running it on me. WTF Tahoe?

You should really try to add something to conversations sometime, instead of just attacking posters. But if thats your gig...continue on.

Somebody shoot me if I make another post in this thread.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/revmyspace2/graphics/other/funny/00shoot_me.jpg
:)

You should really try to add something to conversations sometime, instead of just attacking posters. But if thats your gig...continue on.
So you have no manhood to defend your comment? too bad. Follow your own advice and add something. talking about how much you jock bush's coat tail isn't adding something...lol

So you have no manhood to defend your comment? too bad.

LOL

That wasn't funny, imo.

Considering the source, its hilarious

imo you maybe missed the imo ldb hit you with imo.


oh and lol.

One last thing on this Inauguration day...The Constitution has it about right, imo, to change Prezs every 4 years. Its great to have a change even if its your guy in office, most peeps are ready for a change.

Its time for a new agenda again. Its time for the sky is the limit again. I feel that way whenever there is a new Prez coming in.

I feel that way whenever there is a new Prez coming in.

Only to be disappointed when that Prez leaves, no?

(except for Reagan, who was the greatest US President of my lifetime)

Only to be disappointed when that Prez leaves, no?

(except for Reagan, who was the greatest US President of my lifetime)

If you're 20, he was pretty much a mobile vegetable by the time you were born, yes?

Signed, sealed, delivered >>> Macarena

If you're 20, he was pretty much a mobile vegetable by the time you were born, yes?

True, but not relevant.

I studied his tenure for a semester and he pulled off a textbook conservative agenda.

Unfortunately, we'll probably never see somebody like him come along again.

Republicans seem to like nominating moderates nowdays.

And all the 'Reagan Democrats' in Congress are going to retire or die soon.

If you're 20, he was pretty much a mobile vegetable by the time you were born, yes?
Yep, his "lifetime" wasn't really legit since he was a baby in the regan era. Though ion alot of ways he still is.

Only to be disappointed when that Prez leaves, no?

(except for Reagan, who was the greatest US President of my lifetime)

No, I'm not disappointed at all.

And I think thats my point though Wil. We live in a country where our founders did an amazing job of putting together a constitution that is brilliant in many ways even today.

I'm excited about a new Prez even though I voted for Bush. Bush' time is done. The country is ready for someone new. Its refreshing. <--thats a lil gay.

Its somewhat like private industry when a new guy/gal takes the helm. New blood, new ideas, new energy, etc.

Its a great day.

Yes, but at the same time, Tahoe, the fact that Obama is going to have the chance to implement his far-left agenda does what for conservatives?

Nothing.

8 years of expanding government?? Universal health care?? Increasing the deficit two-fold?? Accepting homo-sexual marriage?? Global warming?? Increased taxes on capital gains??? These are things you want to see happen...??

I sure as fuck don't.

It's not a great day for conservatives. We lost.

True, but not relevant.
Yes it is, you have no real time experience of him as a president. Just hindsight and a republican party alliance through all stitched into your not so well used brain.




And I think thats my point though Wil. We live in a country where our founders did an amazing job of putting together a constitution that is brilliant in many ways even today.
that 3/5's rule and the loophole in the checks and balance system weren't all that great. The idea is somewhat ok, but it's not really "brilliant".


the fact that Obama is going to have the chance to implement his far-left agenda does what for conservatives?
It's not just conservative robots country, and if you believe that you are screwed because you are conservative, imo you're severely ignorant.

Yes it is, you have no real time experience of him as a president. Just hindsight and a republican party alliance through all stitched into your not so well used brain.


You don't need to have 'real time experience' to admire the work they did.

I'm pretty sure Obama wasn't alive for any of Lincoln's tenure, yet Obama is incredibly fond of the man.

So yes Codename, it is irrelevant.

And Obama was 2 when JFK died, so again...makes my point valid.

You don't need to have 'real time experience' to admire the work they did.

I'm pretty sure Obama wasn't alive for any of Lincoln's term, yet Obama is incredibly fond of the man.

So yes Codename, it is irrelevant.
1.) what does obama have to do with you calling a guy you never witnessed in real time the greatest president of your lifetime? Nothing beats actually being there when books and secondary accounts are always tilted as time passes.

2.) you are horrible at defending your points still. almost tricked yourself into believing that made sense.

Yes, but at the same time, Tahoe, the fact that Obama is going to have the chance to implement his far-left agenda does what for conservatives?

Nothing.

8 years of expanding government?? Universal health care?? Increasing the deficit two-fold?? Accepting homo-sexual marriage?? Global warming?? Increased taxes on capital gains??? These are things you want to see happen...??

I sure as fuck don't.

It's not a great day for conservatives. We lost.

But conservatives will NEVER have their guy in office every election and neither will the Libs. Its the system we live under.

BO's words and appointments since elected, imo, have been hypocrisy squared compared to his words in the campaign.

He is moving huge to the middle.

Can he be successful in the middle? Its really up to the left. The right has to (and should be willing to) compromise cuz a lib was elected. But if he's throwing us a bone, TAKE IT.

Just like when conservative is elected, he normally tries to engage the left cuz he knows he needs them to be successful. BO is doing that. Thats all I can ask. We didn't elect him the left elected him so he has to pay them back.

Again, the founders did a great job of making our government successful when we work together. When we are at odds, nothing happens.

And Obama was 2 when JFK died, so again...makes my point valid.
Obama called JFK the greatest president of his lifetime?

He is moving huge to the middle.
.
No he's a muslim radical, thats what your fellow young conservative believes.


We didn't elect him the left elected him so he has to pay them back.
You'd be surprised how many life long original conservative chose him over McCain. Some things go beyond your affiliation in life. Anybody who is truly an individual in this worlds understands when to look beyond the norm.

It's not just conservative robots country, and if you believe that you are screwed because you are conservative, imo you're severely ignorant.

Your right, there will be many liberals who are going to be disappointed as well. But unlike conservatives, they won't have seen it forthcoming.

Like that fat black woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI)who things she won't have to pay her mortgage anymore.

Boy is reality going to hit her like a ton of bricks tomorrow morning, or what?

Obama called JFK the greatest president of his lifetime?


You know, I bet he would if you asked him.

He doesn't have many others to pick.


Lyndon B. Johnson- the man who wiretapped MLK
Jimmy Carter- LMFAO
Bill Clinton- major integrity flaws

Your right, there will be many liberals who are going to be disappointed as well. But unlike conservatives, they won't have seen it forthcoming.

Like that fat black woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI)who things she won't have to pay her mortgage anymore.

Boy is reality going to hit her like a ton of bricks tomorrow morning, or what?
Whats your point you racist fuck? lol.. Again you can throw out random shit and believe you just said something online, but you can't legitimately defend what you say by pointing to someone irrelevant.

She'll get a rude a awakening, black people won't. And furthermore you dont pay your bills or mortgage, so the subject is above your status as a supposed adult.

You know, I bet he would if you asked him.

He doesn't have many others to pick.
WTF? Thats your answer? You're an embarrassment to the party you claim. Just having an opinion Willy is one thing. Having no legit defense of it is where you ned to rethink a lot of this dumb shit you say.

True, but not relevant.

I studied his tenure for a semester and he pulled off a textbook conservative agenda.
Textbook? That's an odd choice of words. It's more correct to say that Reagan rewrote the textbook. In the case of pre-Reagan modern conservatism, there really WAS a textbook -- Barry Goldwater's "The Conscience of a Conservative". Some aspects to the Reagan era were textbook Goldwater, but much was new to Reagan. Reagan talked "limited government" talk better than anyone. But, one big Reagan legacy was big government, deficit spending, trade imbalances, hoping future generations (:us:) were trickled down enough to work it out.

But conservatives will NEVER have their guy in office every election and neither will the Libs. Its the system we live under.

BO's words and appointments since elected, imo, have been hypocrisy squared compared to his words in the campaign.
I don't buy that, on some fronts.

One big difference has been that Obama's gotten a LOT of folks who know the wheels of federal government in. Apart from foreign affairs, the Clinton, Reagan, Dubya, and Carter first draft cabinets were littered with players from assorted state political machines that weren't cut out for prime time. It really IS change to see a lot of cabinet appointees, especially domestic ones, with serious experience in federal government.

Of course, it's not necessarily clear that big experience in federal government is a GOOD thing. Consider the flameouts of Dubya's experienced cabinet, that Obama's biggest cabinet misstep thus far had tons of federal experience. But this notion of having Washington insiders involved is different than what we have seen historically, a function of having a president who spent some time in Washington beforehand.

We'll see how this all works out.

I don't buy that, on some fronts.

One big difference has been that Obama's gotten a LOT of folks who know the wheels of federal government in. Apart from foreign affairs, the Clinton, Reagan, Dubya, and Carter first draft cabinets were littered with players from assorted state political machines that weren't cut out for prime time. It really IS change to see a lot of cabinet appointees, especially domestic ones, with serious experience in federal government.

Agreed. The change isn't about WHO constitutes the cabinet, the change is HOW they do business. The experience is about hitting the ground running, with very little catch-up time as domestic issues grow worse.


Of course, it's not necessarily clear that big experience in federal government is a GOOD thing. Consider the flameouts of Dubya's experienced cabinet, that Obama's biggest cabinet misstep thus far had tons of federal experience

W.'s cabinet was built for war and little else, based around the Wolfowitz Doctrine. On the flip side, Obama's cabinet is built for domestic affairs.

http://southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090122/News01/901220335/1129/News

Obama's ratings did well, but fell short of #1.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/01/barack-obama-inauguration-ratings.html



Nielsen Media Research says 37.8 million TV viewers watched Tuesday's coverage -- the largest inaugural audience in decades.

Obama's viewership is bigger than any presidential inauguration in 28 years. It's 27% higher than Bill Clinton's in 1993 and 30% larger than George Bush's in 2001. Ronald Reagan's first inauguration in 1981 drew a larger tally, however, with 41.8 million.

You know I had to get that one in, guys.

Thats surprising to me.

Changes in technology. Noone cares about watching anything live anymore.

Changes in technology. Noone cares about watching anything live anymore.


I know, it sucks.

Ronald Reagan's first inauguration in 1981 drew a larger tally, however, with 41.8 million.
You know I had to get that one in, guys.
What isn't as widely known is that Reagan's first inauguration drew more web traffic than Obama's.

http://www.wwj.com/Merit-Network--Obama-Inauguration-Spikes-Internet-/3694919

Of course Reagan's web surge isn't widely known because it's not true, but Reagan never let facts get in the way of a good anecdote so why should I?

Will and Mxy arguing crowd size? Holy shit!

Also, what a fuckin thread.

Will and Mxy arguing crowd size? Holy shit!

Viewership crowd -- not people standing out in the cold in DC. :)

Ledezma is a Trump voter, I gotta figure...

Ledezma was probably the worst poster here ever. And that's saying something because WTFChris posted here.