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Wizzle
10-29-2008, 09:51 AM
I know that Sparty fans are usually very bitter angry folks that don't know how to handle it when their team does well but this year they have taken it to new levels. During and after the game I had a drunken individual who I didn't even know, talkin' trash to me like he's hated me his entire life, then I come on here and see bukdow go racist in his bitter glee, and now there is this....

Michigan State's taunting is expensive, and a little rusty
By Matt Hinton

Under normal circumstances, a team like Michigan State, still clinging to reasonable conference championship hopes, would treat a win over a 2-6 bottom dweller on a three-game losing streak -- one of those games to a subpar MAC team -- as just another routine rung on the ladder. When that bottom dweller is Michigan, though, even when the Spartans expect a win, it's never routine:
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That Web site, if you didn't catch it, is "MichiganIsOurLittleSister.com," a play on Mike Hart's "Little Brother" jab, which has put up a digital billboard outside a shopping center in East Lansing with the final score of MSU's win in Ann Arbor and customized taunts on a loop for the rest of the week. The site also encourages Spartan partisans to send their Michigan "friends" customized greeting cards, calendars, puzzles, playing cards and the like for Christmas, or, you know, any time you're feeling like a quick, vicarious pick-me-up.

I thoroughly support the idea of intra-state hate mongering in all its non-violent forms, even if it's mainly one-sided hate (it doesn't really make sense to put up a billboard when you win every year, as Michigan had for the last six since 2002; the Wolverines might consider a very tasteful placard campaign when they finally break the string against Ohio State). The real problem here is with the lazy execution. Given decades to stew as "the other team" in the state and at least half a dozen message boards on which to toss around quasi-clever puns, putdowns and interchangeable inbred jokes, the wordsmiths came up with the following:

• "Leaders and Best? In Your Dreams Maybe"

• "Where's the Arrogance Now?"

• "Leaders and Best? Seriously?? Lately?? You've got to Be Kidding"

• "Holy Toledo! Bye Bye Bowl Streak"

• "Oh Well. There's Always Men's Basketball. Oh Wait. My Bad."

• "Roses are Red. Violets are Blue. Your Football Team's Terrible. And Your Basketball Team, Too."

• "It's Not Over. And It Will Never Be Over. It's Just Starting."

• "Pride Comes Before the Fall -- Mark Dantonio, Nov. 5, 2007. He Tried to Warn You."


The irony of putting "Pride Comes Before the Fall" on a billboard after a win is just awesome.

I'm all for friendly back and forth but Sparty's reaction to this year is kind of pathetic. Act like you've been there before (MSU has beaten UofM before) and act like you'll be there again. Do you really think that if somehow Michigan beats MSU in b'ball they will put up billboards for it. Just, show some class Sparty.

Glenn
10-29-2008, 11:05 AM
I'm sure Pastor Mark didn't approve this.

MoTown
10-29-2008, 11:08 AM
MSU fans are so arrogant! They're all Walmart Spartans!

Jethro34
10-29-2008, 11:12 AM
Don't forget our old friend DrTre. This is a guy who spoke of a desire to himself obtain a McGuffie jersey if he committed to UM after watching his YouTube reels. However, on MySpace, Tre fell in love with a picture of McGuffie after he was hit in Saturday's game which includes the words "MYSPACE DOWN".

Which is it Sparties? I realize that's an isolated example, but I don't ever recall being involved in this type of hypocrisy. Let's take the top player in the recruiting class with a great highlight video that wasn't considering UM but rather a rival. I can't go with Pryor because he had UM as a finalist. Maybe someone like Percy Harvin - since he eliminated UM pretty early. If I had been such a fan of his moves in HS that I wanted a jersey regardless of where he went, I cannot imagine I would have celebrated an injury and taunted it with a reference to the very reason I had found out about him in the first place.

I post this isolated example as a reflection of Spartyville because that's what Spartans understand, broad generalizations.

Enjoy your time on top children of Sparta. After all, pride does indeed come before the fall and you bastards are sounding pretty proud.

Glenn
10-29-2008, 11:35 AM
Wow, was it that shocking that they won? They're taking cues from App St!

http://www.freep.com/article/20081027/SPORTS07/81027071/1054/SPORTS06

These actions really make that "little brother" tag seem even more fitting.

WTFchris
10-29-2008, 01:56 PM
^Where are the pictures of the BCS trophy with that story? When is the parade?

Oh wait, it was just a regular season game?

Vinny
10-29-2008, 03:58 PM
I wish Bukky wrote the billboards.

D's Nuts
10-29-2008, 04:33 PM
Enjoy your time on top children of Sparta. After all, pride does indeed come before the fall and you bastards are sounding pretty proud.

Rightfully so, U of M has been a program at the top of the mountain for quite sometime. However, Mark Dantonio made those comments due to Mouth Hart and his complete disrespect of our program. Having a "moment of silence" and all the jaw jacking he did. MSU is no where near the level of arrogant, blatant disrespect, or overall smug levels that U of M has displayed over the year. I seem to recall Chris Webber having a victory dance on the Breslin press tables, Jalen Rose wiping his ass on the block S, Hart and his little brother comment, Manningham and his watch, "Pardon our Ignorance" sign at Spartan Stadium, Hart trash talking in front of our bench last year before having to be pulled away.......We didn't start it but we damn will keep fighting.

MSU has a long way to climb before they even approach the level at what Michigan once was. Yes, this game was important and fun to beat on you while you had a "down year" but does not really do anything until we can have a sustained level of excellence over many years. Pride comes before the fall? MSU has a long way to climb before we can fall back down.

WTFchris
10-29-2008, 04:45 PM
I don't remember the Webber or Rose incidents you mentioned (I hated the fab 5 anyway so it doesn't surprise me).

I think trash talking is fine. it makes the rivalry great. But it's still good to keep the win in perspective. I don't think printing shirts is really needed. Print one when you win the big ten. otherwise just take your bragging rights for a year.

D's Nuts
10-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Is this as bad as App State putting their win last year on their Championship Rings?

WTFchris
10-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Worse. App State was not even in the same division. u of m was probably a 40 point favorite. MSU was favored in this one weren't they? When is the last time a favored team printed t-shirts after a regular season win?

Zip Goshboots
10-29-2008, 06:27 PM
Wow. We have Michigan fans lecturing on class.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii30/Delwugor/HelloMyNameIsHypocrite.jpg

WTFchris
10-29-2008, 06:46 PM
I know you are not referring to me. I'd like to see a derogatory post I've made about MSU.

D's Nuts
10-29-2008, 06:55 PM
^Where are the pictures of the BCS trophy with that story? When is the parade?

Oh wait, it was just a regular season game?

This doesn't seem to be too positive.

Zip Goshboots
10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
It's just in general Chris. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Moodini31
10-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Don't forget our old friend DrTre. This is a guy who spoke of a desire to himself obtain a McGuffie jersey if he committed to UM after watching his YouTube reels. However, on MySpace, Tre fell in love with a picture of McGuffie after he was hit in Saturday's game which includes the words "MYSPACE DOWN".

I saw that and got absolutely pissed off. I believe it actually says YOUTUBE DOWN, but that doesn't really matter. What a hypocrite. Just another example of little Spartinas getting all excited when they beat "Big Brother" for the first time in 7 years.

Jethro34
10-29-2008, 10:17 PM
You're right - that's what I meant. Good correction and yes, pissed me off.

Jethro34
10-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Rightfully so, U of M has been a program at the top of the mountain for quite sometime. However, Mark Dantonio made those comments due to Mouth Hart and his complete disrespect of our program. Having a "moment of silence" and all the jaw jacking he did. MSU is no where near the level of arrogant, blatant disrespect, or overall smug levels that U of M has displayed over the year. I seem to recall Chris Webber having a victory dance on the Breslin press tables, Jalen Rose wiping his ass on the block S, Hart and his little brother comment, Manningham and his watch, "Pardon our Ignorance" sign at Spartan Stadium, Hart trash talking in front of our bench last year before having to be pulled away.......We didn't start it but we damn will keep fighting.

MSU has a long way to climb before they even approach the level at what Michigan once was. Yes, this game was important and fun to beat on you while you had a "down year" but does not really do anything until we can have a sustained level of excellence over many years. Pride comes before the fall? MSU has a long way to climb before we can fall back down.

I know countless Sparties who mockingly remember Mateen's antics when MSU destroyed UM as well. Still pumping for assists and pushing it for a 51 point victory. Dancing like a little girl.

You use references from recent memory in a rivalry that has gone on from decades, but clearly you will always blame UM. Why? Because we were here first? Because we lead the all-time series? So that makes us more arrogant than you? Truth is both sides are plenty arrogant when they have something to brag about. But some dumb ass individuals fight to take it to new heights whenever possible, and right now is one of those times. So desperate to get as many shots as possible in because you know the opportunity won't be around long. And yeah, that was me being arrogant.

Tahoe
10-29-2008, 10:29 PM
But some dumb ass individuals fight to take it to new heights whenever possible, and right now is one of those times. So desperate to get as many shots as possible in because you know the opportunity won't be around long.

:cogent:

D's Nuts
10-29-2008, 10:59 PM
I know countless Sparties who mockingly remember Mateen's antics when MSU destroyed UM as well. Still pumping for assists and pushing it for a 51 point victory. Dancing like a little girl.

You use references from recent memory in a rivalry that has gone on from decades, but clearly you will always blame UM. Why? Because we were here first? Because we lead the all-time series? So that makes us more arrogant than you? Truth is both sides are plenty arrogant when they have something to brag about. But some dumb ass individuals fight to take it to new heights whenever possible, and right now is one of those times. So desperate to get as many shots as possible in because you know the opportunity won't be around long. And yeah, that was me being arrogant.

It's a rivalry. Do you think that we did this when we beat the 6 other teams this year?

Yeah, never mind the fact that U of M wouldn't even play in East Lansing for 40 years so that might have something to do with winning the all time series.

We won, you lost, get over yourselves and deal with it. Prove it next year on the field and take it from there.

D's Nuts
10-29-2008, 11:00 PM
Again, it's a RIVALRY and despite U of M's insistence that we are second fiddle, fine. Why you so upset then?

Jethro34
10-30-2008, 06:59 AM
Here's the difference. When UM wins and is accused of arrogance, it's because one or two players lost their mind and said something they shouldn't have. I have never claimed that what Mike Hart said was classy. It wasn't.

But there's a different between one player saying something or reacting in a certain way and a whole team behaving without class or someone putting in time and money for a damn billboard. MSU planting a flag at ND was classless. Digital billboard = classless. UM may be arrogant, but there is still an effort to keep some dignity. MSU, meanwhile, has shown that being the better team is such a rare feat that they have no clue how to handle it.

It's the difference between the football player who scores and hands the ball to the refs, maybe hugs or slaps helmets with a handful of teammates - vs. Chad Johnson. Nationally people recognize Chad's talent but think the rest is a joke and that he's a headcase looking to draw extra attention to himself. After a little while, look what it has done to his value. His team will threaten the Lions for worst in the NFL and he's no longer the top WR on the team (or at least the top option).

Wilfredo Ledezma
10-30-2008, 08:05 AM
I don't mind Sparty celebrating. It's been awhile since they've been able to do so. I'm sure things would get excessive in Ann Arbor if/when we FINALLY beat OSU again.

Party on Sparty!

Zip Goshboots
10-30-2008, 11:57 AM
I don't mind Sparty celebrating. It's been awhile since they've been able to do so. I'm sure things would get excessive in Ann Arbor if/when we FINALLY beat OSU again.

Party on Sparty!

With each passing day, that elusive victory over The Badass goes farther into the future.

Glenn
10-30-2008, 11:58 AM
The sweater vest isn't exactly killing it these days, either.

The Big Ten really blows, as far as I can tell.

Zip Goshboots
10-30-2008, 12:05 PM
Greatest sig ever, Glen.
Now we'll have a First Lady that I can finally say I'd actually love to boff.

D's Nuts
10-30-2008, 02:41 PM
Here's the difference. When UM wins and is accused of arrogance, it's because one or two players lost their mind and said something they shouldn't have. I have never claimed that what Mike Hart said was classy. It wasn't.

But there's a different between one player saying something or reacting in a certain way and a whole team behaving without class or someone putting in time and money for a damn billboard. MSU planting a flag at ND was classless. Digital billboard = classless. UM may be arrogant, but there is still an effort to keep some dignity. MSU, meanwhile, has shown that being the better team is such a rare feat that they have no clue how to handle it.

It's the difference between the football player who scores and hands the ball to the refs, maybe hugs or slaps helmets with a handful of teammates - vs. Chad Johnson. Nationally people recognize Chad's talent but think the rest is a joke and that he's a headcase looking to draw extra attention to himself. After a little while, look what it has done to his value. His team will threaten the Lions for worst in the NFL and he's no longer the top WR on the team (or at least the top option).

This is so hypocritical I cannot take it. You say that it's ok to be arrogant because of 1 or 2 individuals. Then you say that its classless when a whole team or individuals take action. So which is it?

ONE person put up the billboard, not a group of individuals or the team. One man.

I stated previous classless acts by U of M that have gone on for decades. It's what happens in a rivalry. Deal with it. You don't like it, win next year and shut us up. Take your lumps and move on and get over it.

Baker
10-31-2008, 01:06 PM
Stay classy Michigan State!

Signed,
University of Michigan Heating and Cooling

p.s.-Enjoy the shower.

MoTown
10-31-2008, 01:09 PM
What a surprise!!! What strange timing for Tre to come back...

Moodini31
10-31-2008, 10:26 PM
What a surprise!!! What strange timing for Tre to come back...

I'm surprised it took this long. I thought there'd be a post from him at about 7:01 Saturday night. And what the F is he talking about?

MoTown
11-01-2008, 09:19 AM
I think he got Michigan and Ohio State confused.

Zip Goshboots
11-01-2008, 10:38 AM
I think Tre is suffering from homosexual panic. His is a clear case of being delusional that young men who play football would like to make love to him. The rejection he gets when he wanders into the Michigan State locker room and starts touching the players testicles is immense, and he takes out the resulting frustrations on Michigan and its fans and players.

Moodini31
11-01-2008, 11:22 PM
I think Tre is suffering from homosexual panic. His is a clear case of being delusional that young men who play football would like to make love to him. The rejection he gets when he wanders into the Michigan State locker room and starts touching the players testicles is immense, and he takes out the resulting frustrations on Michigan and its fans and players.

LOL. WOW.

Baker
11-03-2008, 09:44 PM
This is what I was referring to Mood. Not the best source, but first I googled. Was in just about all other articles on the game though.

http://www.theworldofisaac.com/2008/10/you-stay-classy-um.html

Moodini31
11-04-2008, 01:12 PM
This is what I was referring to Mood. Not the best source, but first I googled. Was in just about all other articles on the game though.

http://www.theworldofisaac.com/2008/10/you-stay-classy-um.html

Was apparently due to stadium renovations. Sounds a little like too much of a "coincidence" though.

MoTown
11-04-2008, 01:25 PM
What's weird is the fact that OSU supposedly did that a couple of years ago when Michigan visited which leads me to believe one of two things:

1) Michigan can't even think of an original way to fuck with Sparty
2) This article is just made up


Both are very plausible.