Dmac was waived. Good move IMO. He shouldn't be taking a roster spot over Helm, or even Downey who was already waived before him (only because D Mac was hurt and didn't have to be waived yet).

Hopefully he clears waivers and stays in GR. His toughness could rub off on the kids down there.

Not really the offseason anymore, amiright?

^ snarky

As a side note, Glenn changed his name after I made that comment.

Boooooh. "Internet Sensation Snarky" just doesn't have the same ring to it...

Not really news:

The Wings play 14 of their first 23 games on the road, including two West Coast trips. If they can make it through that just fine, December is looking great. They have 9 of 13 games at the Joe in December.

6-1-1 isn't a bad spot to be in at all right now.

I've been pretty happy with the start so far. I've only caught two games though, which makes me not so happy.

Do the Wings just get to take the rest of the season off, until the playoffs, or something?

No, but they could just let Hossa go out and beat every team individually if they wanted to rest all of their players. Dude is on fire right now.

Seems like they never play, that's all.

They came back from that long road trip and had a week off. I agree with you though. I think they've played the least amount of games in the NHL right now. The Rangers have played 5 more games than the Wings...

Yeah, I'm always checking to see if there's a game on and I'm always coming up negative. Very disappointing. They're the only winner we've got right now.

Game tonight against the Penguins.

Ask and you shall receive.

About time. I'm excited, this should be a good one.

And it's on VERSUS!

I can finally watch a game.

3-2 Red Wings in the second.

The Wings looked like total shit tonight losing 7-6 in OT. Despite a decent record, this Wings team has had a problem of turning over the puck or just not being able to clear the zone. It cost them tonight and is becoming a theme. They failed to clear the puck so many times I lost count. This is something that will kill us in the playoffs. Babcock didn't look very pissed. I would have been jumping up and down breaking sticks over the boards. Really crappy game for the Wings and something the team really needs to address.

News:

They blew it.

Ozzie needs 34 more wins to move up from 13th to 9th all time in wins. Last year he had 27 wins splitting the games almost evenly with Hasek. He is on pace for exactly 34 wins in 53 starts right now. Even IF Howard were ready to play exclusively in the NHL next year I would think it would be an even time share at worst. I'm putting him down for 25+ wins next year, plus another 15 wins the next year even if Howard took over full time. that would put him at about 444, which is 3 behind Sawchuk for 5th all time. Obviously we don't know he'll get there, but it's crazy to think he has a legit chance at being in the top 5 all time. BTW, Cujo is 4th with 449 right now (he is 0-2-1 this year, so he may not be adding a lot to that number before he's done at age 41).


With 370 wins, Osgood is two behind Moog, who ranks 13th on the all-time list.
"(Moog) is one of the guys I idolized growing up," Osgood said. "I learned watching him play. It's a great honor to be lumped with those guys. When I'm done playing, it's going to be about how many wins you have."
The players he is referring to are former teammates Dominik Hasek and Mike Vernon, who rank 10th and 11th on the career list with 389 and 385 wins, respectively, and Grant Fuhr, the other Oiler that Osgood idolized, who ranks ninth with 403 victories.
"It drives me to keep winning and try to get better, so I can play long enough (to pass them)," Osgood said.

Helm recalled from GR, McCarty sent down
by Ansar Khan
Wednesday November 26, 2008, 10:48 AM
Update from Wednesday's morning skate: The Red Wings recalled forward Darren Helm from Grand Rapids, assigning Darren McCarty to the Griffins. Helm will play right wing on a line with Valtteri Filppula and Jiri Hudler tonight against Montreal.

"Our feeling on the plane last night was we'd been on the road for a week, we got home at 7, the first game home is tough, we want more energy,'' general manager Ken Holland said. "Helm plays with tons of energy.

"Darren's been playing 4-5 minutes (a game). He has a fight almost every game. He's done a great job in protecting our team but we just thought for tonight, our priority was to get some legs in the lineup. We're going to reassess tomorrow what we're doing.''

Helm could be sent back down after game, since it appears Dan Cleary (eye irritation) will return to the lineup Friday against Columbus. They're not going to keep Helm around as a spare forward.

Helm is second in scoring for the Griffins with 18 points (five goals, 13 assists) in 16 games. He appeared in two games with Detroit earlier this season.

Chris Chelios (fractured fibula) also skated with the team for the first time since the preseason. He said it will will take at least another week to get back into game shape and that he doesn't have a target date for his return.

Ty Conklin will start in net tonight.

The other line combinations for the Wings:

Kopecky-Datsyuk-Hossa
Franzen-Zetterberg-Samuelsson
Meech-Draper-Maltby

The defense is the same as usual.

I think Ansar Khan is a pretty cool name.

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200508/mov-002-khan02/320x240.jpg

So is McCarty pretty much just an enforcer now? I don't get to see enough games.

Helm's back? Good news.

So is McCarty pretty much just an enforcer now? I don't get to see enough games.

I've heard that they're just about done with him.

He was on waivers last week, IIRC.

McCarty got a couple of fourth line shifts every game these last few games. Nothing much other than the fights, really. It's better to just get Helm back in the lineup.

I'm glad Meech is still playing at the wing. I love his forechecking, maybe even more than his defense.

I'm so happy the Wings are playing the Habs tonight. They should be playing 4 times a year. I came close to going and I know I'm going to regret not spending the money and seeing the game live.

Do you regret it?

Mac was just on waivers so they had the option to send him to the minors and bring up someone like Helm when they needed, not because they're done with him.

I loved Hossa with Dats. You could put my dead grandmother out there on the other wing and they were still the best line in the league. I do think Z's been looking a step slow these days and even though he has 25 points you don't feel like he owns the game like he usually does. Hopefully it's not that groin injury still nagging him and this line change can help him.



Wings' Hossa has new linemate in Zetterberg
It was Datsyuk; now Zetterberg

BY HELENE ST. JAMES • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • December 9, 2008

When Marian Hossa showed up for work Monday morning, his usual center greeted him with a smile and thanked him for the memories.
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It was Pavel Datsyuk's way of telling Hossa the two were no longer linemates. Their split was part of an overall shuffling that saw Hossa moved to a line with Henrik Zetterberg and Dan Cleary, and Datsyuk centering Tomas Holmstrom and Valtteri Filppula. Johan Franzen, a mainstay on Zetterberg's left side, centered the third line with Mikael Samuelsson and Jiri Hudler, and Kris Draper was with Kirk Maltby and Tomas Kopecky.

It's the first time Hossa has been with a center other than Datsyuk. "I didn't play with Z one game, so it's something new," Hossa said. "I think Hank shoots a little more than Pavel. Pavel is more a real passer. So they are a little different there, but they are pretty similar players -- they back-check hard, they play well in both end zones."

Hossa has clicked phenomenally with Datsyuk, though Datsyuk slyly suggested there might be tension between the two. "I tell him after a game he too much yell at me," Datsyuk said, smiling. "He want I more pass."

Though the Wings are second in the NHL with a 3.54 goals-per-game average, that number might be higher if more forwards shot more. Hossa leads the Wings with 113 shots, and Zetterberg is second at 94; not coincidentally, Hossa leads the Wings with 29 points, and Zetterberg is second with 25. Filppula and Cleary each have far too good a shot to have only 43 and 46 shots, respectively.

There's no guarantee, however, these lines will be intact when the Wings play next, Wednesday against Calgary. All coach Mike Babcock has decided is that Ty Conklin will get his second straight start in net.

"I just want us to play better," Babcock said. "To me, to be a good team you've got to engage emotionally. It's an emotional game, and it takes passion and energy to be the best. When you're not like that -- and there's lots of times during the year you're not because it's just impossible, it's 82 games -- sometimes change is as good as a rest."

Zetterberg sounded happy to gain Hossa, who brings more speed to the right side, and Cleary.

"The most impressive thing I've seen is his work ethic," Zetterberg said. "It's not just one way, it's both ways -- he really back-checks hard and makes it easier for his linemates to play good."

There were also changes on defense, with Nicklas Lidstrom opposite Brad Stuart and Niklas Kronwall opposite Brian Rafalski, leaving Andreas Lilja-Brett Lebda intact. Defenseman Chris Chelios is ready to grab a spot if needed, having recovered from a broken leg.

Babcock switches back to regular lines

by Ansar Khan Wednesday December 10, 2008, 11:21 AM


Update from Wednesday's morning skate: Coach Mike Babcock switched back to his usual forward line combinations, which he said he always intended to do. He said he switched things up for a couple of days just to see how players would react to playing with different linemates.
"I had a good opportunity to see how they might be if I decide that's (how he wants them),'' Babcock said. "You learn who wants to play with who by their body English and there's lots you can learn. Some guys play better with certain guys. Let's try to have them with those guys as much as we can. Sometimes during the year it gets like Ground Hog Day, you got to change things up.''
He added: "To me, it's having a net presence on every line and having a shooter on every line and someone who can make plays.''
So here's the lines for tonight's game against Calgary:

Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Hossa
Franzen-Zetterberg-Samuelsson
Hudler-Filppula-Cleary
Kopecky-Draper-Maltby

On defense:
Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Lebda-Lilja

Scratches:
Meech
Chelios
McCarty (IR)

"The bottom line is none of it matters, it's about how we play tonight,'' Babcock said. "We're playing a team that played last night (lost 4-1 in Montreal) and got in late. The formula is very simple, it's called energy early, get after them on the forecheck and let's play.''

You know...when he said that about the defensive pairings I should have known it was coming. I just would like to see if Hossa playing with Z would get Zetterberg back to his dominating form.

I'm going to miss Meech the winger. I really liked his forechecking.

I was surprised at how well Meech did as a winger. Its good to have that sort of flexibility. I remember having that with Dandenault back in the day.

Zetterberg turns down a 10 year-$75 million deal. Just heard about it on Karsch & Anderson

Uh oh.

Hopefully he had to think about it a lil bit. Not a "Not only NO, but eff NO"

Source: Red Wings, Zetterberg close on deal

by Ansar Khan Friday January 16, 2009, 4:00 AM


LOS ANGELES -- Contract negotiations between the Detroit Red Wings and center Henrik Zetterberg appear to be heading toward the homestretch.
A personal familiar with the talks said negotiations have intensified in recent days and that the sides could be closing in on an agreement.
Zetterberg would not confirm the status of negotiations on Thursday, but he denied a CBC report that indicated he had spurned a 10-year, $75 million offer from the Red Wings.
"That's not true,'' Zetterberg said. "I haven't turned down an offer of $75 million.''
If anything, he likely will sign a deal in the neighborhood of 10 years and $75 million, which would be the longest and most lucrative pact in franchise history.
"That figure really is in the ballpark,'' said a person with knowledge of the talks.

Zetterberg, 28, is the final year of a four-year contract that averages $2.65 million a season. Though his production (16 goals, 40 points) isn't on pace with last season, when he finished sixth in the NHL with 92 points, including 43 goals, his value has not diminished.

Last year's Conn Smythe Trophy winner as playoff MVP, Zetterberg is one of the premier two-way forwards in the league and would be one of the summer's most highly coveted free agents if he opted to test the market.
But there is no reason to believe he won't re-sign with Detroit. Red Wings general manager Ken Holland and Zetterberg's agent, Marc Levine, have talked off and on for months and have made significant progress in recent weeks.
Team captain Nicklas Lidstrom, forward Tomas Holmstrom and club vice-president Steve Yzerman also have had one-on-one meetings with Zetterberg over the last two months in an effort to get him signed.
The Red Wings have three high-end players who could become unrestricted free agents on July 1 -- Zetterberg, Marian Hossa and Johan Franzen. They have opened talks with Franzen, but they're not going to sign him or anybody else until they have a deal with Zetterberg. Salary-cap restraints more than likely will prevent them from signing both Franzen and Hossa.
Forward Jiri Hudler, who is having his best season, is a restricted free agent.

Nicklas Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk must sit out Detroit Red Wings' next game - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/allstar2009/news/story?id=3855534)

MONTREAL -- The NHL will force erstwhile All-Stars Pavel Datsyuk (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1223) and Nicklas Lidstrom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=539) to miss the Detroit Red Wings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/clubhouse?team=det)' first game after the All-Star break for failing to attend this weekend's festivities.

I bet thats the 1st time that word was used to describe a hockey player.

They are just pissed we are the only team without an all star player there.

Maybe if they hadn't snubbed Hossa, Rafalski, Hank, etc...

DETROIT -- The Detroit Red Wings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/clubhouse?team=det) have agreed to a contract extension with forward Henrik Zetterberg (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1964) worth slightly more than $72 million over 12 years.The team plans to hold a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Detroit, according to a report by The Booth Newspapers.
Zetterberg, a 28-year-old native of Sweden, is in his sixth NHL season, all with Detroit. He has 43 points in 45 games this season.
Messages seeking comment from the team and Zetterberg's agent were not returned.

That's a damn good price for him as well...

That seems like a very good thing.

Report was he turned down 75mil over 10 and we get him for 72mil over 12? I'll take it! What other sport signs its players to 10-12-20 year contracts?

I think the 75 mil over 10 years (that he turned it down) was a total BS rumor. So I doubt that offer even existed.

72 mil over 12 years is 6 mil a season. I'll take that for a top 5 player.

Not too shabby.

12 years, lol

So now it comes down to Hossa or Franzen (which will obviously mean it comes down to getting Franzen signed unless Hossa wants to take a discount to stay here for a few more seasons)

Looks like his last 3 years will be pretty damn cap friendly:


Henrik Zetterberg will be a Red Wing for life

by Ansar Khan Wednesday January 28, 2009, 3:18 PM


The Red Wings made it official at Wednesday's press conference, announcing the signing of Henrik Zetterberg to a 12-year contract. The total value is $73 million, for a cap hit of $6.08 million per season.
"Henrik wanted to be a Red Wing for life and we wanted to keep him a Red Wing for life,'' Wings general manager Ken Holland said. "We worked hard to find a number that made both sides very happy.''
Zetterberg will earn $7.4 million next season, slightly less than captain Nicklas Lidstrom's $7.45 million salary, but then his contract will escalate for a few years, though it never reaches $8 million a season. It gets progressively lower after a few seasons.


Here is how it breaks down:
09-10 $7.4 Million
10-11 $7.75 Million
11-12 $7.75 Million
12-13 $7.75 Million
13-14 $7.5 Million
14-15 $7.5 Million
15-16 $7.5 Million
16-17 $7.5 Million
17-18 $7.0 Million
18-19 $3.35 Million
19-20 $1.0 Million
20-21 $1.0 Million

They were able to get a low cap figure by paying him only $1 million per season in the final two years.
Really a good deal for both sides. Who could have imagined coming into the season that they'd be able to get Zetterberg for a cap figure of about $6 million? He left some money on the table, but the trade off is he's getting the longest deal in club history. He could have made more elsewhere, but why leave an environment in which you're so happy?
"I'm real happy I don't have to do it (contract negotiation) again,'' Zetterberg said. "I'm going to be here for the rest of my career and I'm looking forward to spending 12 more years here.''


So he'll be 38, 39 and 40 in those low cap years.

They were able to get a low cap figure by paying him only $1 million per season in the final two years.

Thats pretty friggin cogent. I don't know if thats done regularly...if not, props to KH.

I like Zett... but do you really want to sign a player for 12 years in a sport like hockey?

Well, it's really a 9 year deal. I'm no expert, but I imagine if he had to retire from injury that he'd come off the books, right?

Leino, Ozzy, Hossa/Franzen:


Red Wings' Ville Leino proving he belongs in NHL

by Ansar Khan Tuesday February 17, 2009, 12:20 AM


DETROIT -- It is a testament to the Detroit Red Wings' depth and firepower that they can keep a player with Ville Leino's abilities in the minors for most of the season and not miss him.
In his short time with the Red Wings, Leino is proving to be the NHL-ready player the club thought he was when it signed him in May.
"He's got a really quick release, really good shot," linemate Marian Hossa said. "He was a really good player in the Finnish League and he's showing it. When he's got the puck, you can tell he knows what to do with it. He's not a huge guy, but he's using his head and he's always in the right spot."
Leino has three goals and two assists in eight games since being recalled from Grand Rapids. The left wing has played mostly on a line with Hossa and Valtteri Filppula.
"He's got skill, he knows how to play without the puck," Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said. "He's playing with two guys that can really skate.
"He's not a skater, so they do what they do for him and when he gets the puck in the (offensive) zone, he can really hang onto it and make plays. He's got good poise."
A late bloomer who went undrafted, Leino won the Oskanen Award as the Finnish Elite League's top player in the regular season. He finished second in points (77) and third in goals (28).
He played well enough at training camp and throughout the preseason to earn a roster spot, but the Red Wings did not have the salary-cap space. He was second in scoring with the Griffins (11 goals, 37 points) at the time of his recall, made possible due to defenseman Brad Stuart's rib/neck injury.
"I think I changed a lot of my game, especially when I play with Hossa," Leino said. "I don't try to keep the puck as much. I try to make plays, try to go more north-south, go faster, get shots, go to the net."
With Tomas Holmstrom out at least another month after surgery for a sports hernia, the Red Wings will have ample opportunity to assess Leino and decide whether to use him in the playoffs.
Leino is finding life in the NHL to be less of a grind. The long bus rides in the AHL wore on him.
"You travel a lot and you don't sleep that well (in the AHL)," Leino said. "A lot of games on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So if you're going to go through that, you can (deal) with all the travel and games here. You recover a lot more and easier."
Leino is a restricted free agent. Next season, he is projected to replace one of the players the Red Wings can't afford to retain due to salary-cap restrictions.
"I like playing here, good players all around, good team," Leino said. "It's a great place to play and get better as a player, especially for me.
"I hope I'll have a future here and stay in Detroit."
Contract talks continue
Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said he has had contract talks with the agents for Johan Franzen and Hossa in the past week, but no deal is imminent.
He has had more discussions with Franzen's agent and said there is a possibility of a deal. But he wants to continue talks with Hossa. He can sign only one before the end of the season.
"If I have any chance to sign two, I got to get their cap number as low as possible," Holland said. "There's a lot at stake for the players and the club. I'm trying to figure out ways to keep as many players as possible.
"If I get close with one, I'm going to sit tight and see where I get with the other."
Club ponders Osgood's workload
Holland said he has considered recalling goaltender Jimmy Howard from Grand Rapids for a couple of games, but it is more important to get Chris Osgood back on track.
"I don't know if this is the time to bring up Howard, we got to get Osgood going," Holland said. "The question with Chris is, do you keep playing him more and more, or do you give him a mental breather and then play him more (later in the season)? I'm not sure what's the best way to go about it."
After Osgood's rough outing in Sunday's 6-5 shootout loss to Colorado, Babcock said Ty Conklin will start Wednesday against Nashville.
Injury update
Franzen (bruised hand) skated and shot the puck Monday, the team's off-day, but didn't feel 100 percent, Holland said. The team hopes he can play Wednesday.
Holland estimated Stuart is two weeks away. He did not have an update on defenseman Brett Lebda, who has missed two games with back spasms.
Right wing Darren McCarty (hernia surgery) might be able to play for Grand Rapids this weekend.

Our depth is scary



DETROIT -- It is a testament to the Detroit Red Wings' depth and firepower that they can keep a player with Ville Leino's abilities in the minors for most of the season and not miss him.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -No need to hit the panic button, Detroit fans. Despite some bad games, rocky times and nagging question marks, the Red Wings are right back atop the heap.

Chris Osgood made 23 saves for his 49th career shutout, and the Red Wings beat the Columbus Blue Jackets 4-0 on Sunday to become the first NHL team to top 100 points in nine straight seasons. Detroit also clinched its 17th consecutive playoff spot.

''Obviously, to set an NHL record, it's phenomenal,'' coach Mike Babcock said. ''I've only been part of it for four years, (but I'm) proud of the fact that for four years we've been over the century mark.''

Babcock then went on to single out general manager Ken Holland, the Illitch family that owns the team and several veteran players, noting the patience they've shown to build a perennial powerhouse.

''That's beyond impressive,'' Babcock said. ''When you look at that, I'm proud for those people. For us, we're just trying to get better and get prepared for the playoffs.''

Osgood, struggling to find his form before the playoffs, looked like his old self in his second shutout of the season.

''It seems like every (year) we end up in the same spot,'' said Osgood, who tied longtime friend and teammate, Mike Vernon, for 11th on the career list with 385 victories. ''We've got a good core, a good group of guys. We know how to fight through adversity. We know how to deal with the pressures of playing in Detroit. We always know in the end that we're going to be there and give ourselves a good chance to win in the end.''

The victory came eight days after the Blue Jackets humiliated the reigning Stanley Cup champions 8-2 on their own ice, with Osgood surrendering seven goals - also on 23 shots.

''Anytime you're embarrassed it is (motivation),'' Babcock said. ''They're big boys, they're smart. They were up for the game. They suffered humiliation, just like anybody else. We needed to respond here today.''

Johan Franzen and Niklas Kronwall each had a goal and an assist, and Marian Hossa and Mikael Samuelsson also scored for Detroit, the NHL leader with 101 points.

The Red Wings broke a tie with Montreal (1974-75 through 1981-82) for the NHL mark for consecutive 100-point seasons.

The loss ended the Blue Jackets ' winning streaks at four overall and three at home.

''We gave it to them last time and they showed us why they are the best team in the league tonight,'' Blue Jackets captain Rick Nash said.

Columbus came into the game alone in sixth place in the Western Conference with 78 points, four ahead of Dallas and five in front of Edmonton and Nashville. The Blue Jackets are striving to make the playoffs for the first time in franchise history.

The Red Wings played committed, efficient, almost desperate hockey - almost as if they also were fighting for a playoff spot instead of playing out the string before the playoffs.

Only 29 seconds in, the Red Wings found the back of the net - although Brad Stuart 's slap shot was waved off because teammate Tomas Holmstrom was standing in the crease.

No matter. The Red Wings stayed on a roll.

Hossa streaked up the left wing past two defensemen and was able to get off a shot on Detroit goalie Steve Mason . He then pounced on the rebound and slid it between Mason's leg pads for his 35th of the year.

Detroit had a two-man advantage when Kronwall took a drop pass from Jiri Hudler and one-timed it past Mason from the left point. Samuelsson then converted a turnover into his 18th of the year before Franzen scored his 28th.

Osgood, meanwhile, was up to all challenges. He stopped R.J. Umberger as he swooped in all alone in the second period, then later blocked a Rick Nash wrister. In the third, he smothered Kris Russell 's blast on a delayed penalty.

''We played a real solid road game. We played smart, too,'' said captain Nicklas Lidstrom .

Notes: Several hundred fans were lined up halfway around the arena 2 hours before the game started, hoping to purchase reduced-price tickets. ... Announced attendance was 18,685, the sixth sellout of the season. ... Detroit C Valtteri Filppula was a scratch with back spasms. ... Columbus needed a win to tie the franchise record for points (80) in a season, set a year ago. The Blue Jackets have 12 games remaining. ... The Wings went 3-2-1 in the season series.

Sports Illustrated made a list of the NHL's most rugged players, past and present. #3 was Kris Draper:

A veteran of 18 seasons and four Cups, Detroit's checking center and member of its famed "Grind Line" is only 5-9 and 190 pounds, but still plays with relentless abandon. A skilled penalty-killer and face-off man, Draper, 37, was sidelined by an upper body injury through most of this year's first two rounds but badgered the Red Wings into letting him play in their Game 7 win over the Ducks, in which he was plus-one.


Yahoo! Sports attempt to fix the SI "Rugged Player" rankings (Draper makes both lists):

Kris Draper, Detroit Red Wings

When you picture Kris Draper in the supermarket, do you see him violently bumping up against the shelves until the item he's attempting to purchase falls into his cart? Because we do.

Seriously though, SI gets this one right as well. Anyone who can legitimately claim to be the heart of something called the Grind Line is rugged. Or a stripper. Or Eric Nies. One of the three.

I think I like Yahoo!'s description better.

lol Yeah Yahoo's bit is better. Nice for him to get some press too, he deserves it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/michael_farber/06/02/finals.notes.martin/


While nothing will be announced during the Stanley Cup final, unrestricted free agent Marian Hossa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/players/1640) likely will be signing a long-term deal, believed to be seven years, to stay with the Red Wings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/teams/red_wings) . . .

Good. That means Hudler is gone. With all the young guys stepping up, I'd much rather sign the best FA (Hossa) and let a couple 3rd liners go to make room for the young guys.

I've seen Draper at the store. He's always being dragged all over the store by his kids.

Not a fan of Hudler, Chris?

I was sort of on the fence with the idea of signing Hossa and losing 3-4 of our current guys, but the young guys have really stepped up and proved they belong. I hate to see us lose longtime guys or guys that have been solid for us for a few years, like Sammy and Hudler, but it looks like a possibility now. Unfortunately, if we sign Hossa to a big contract, some guys are going to be gone.

Draper has 2 years left on his deal and he's a leader, so I'd say he's safe. I only bring him up because he hasn't played yet in the finals even though he's healthy. I can understand Babcock not wanting to change anything up after the first 2 games though.

Maltby has a year left, which may be his saving grace. If he was a FA, I wouldn't see us bringing him back just because we have young guys that can step in and provide the same things he does for less money, and they've got potential to continue growing.

Hudler is an RFA and he's gone.

Samuelsson is a FA, he's gone.

Kopecky is a FA, he'll get to test the waters but I could definitely see us keeping him for cheap and putting him on the 4th line.

Obviously Downey and McCarty are both gone unless they accept similar situations to where they are now. I think they both could get back in the league somewhere else though.

Obviously our two top lines:
Hossa-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen

Then we still have a great group of talent after that.

Line 3:
Filppula mostly centered Sammy and Hudler, so you could see any of the younger guys with him. Helm is a C but could be plugged in with him. With the way Helm has been winning faceoffs, I could see him moving into the 3rd line C spot with Filppula on one wing and Leino on the other.
Filppula-Helm-Leino

Line 4
Abdelkader slides onto line 4 playing with either low-cost FAs, guys from the minors or (more likely) Draper and Maltby/Kopecky switching in and out on a regular basis.
Abdelkader-Draper-Maltby/Kopecky

I don't even know what we've got going on in the minors right now in terms of guys pushing to get into the league. I know we have some solid prospects but I have no idea how close they are to being ready. I remember hearing Emmerton's name in the preseason, same with Ritola.

On D, we're pretty much set.
Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Lebda
Lilja and Meech fight Lebda for that final spot but probably end up being extras in the Meech/Chelios role from this year.

I feel like we'll end up trading one of these guys and I hope its Lilja. I know we just signed him to a 2-year extension and it was a bad move. At the time we had Meech and Quincy waiting for an opportunity, lost Quincy on waivers and he turned into a solid player for the Kings this year. I don't want that same mistake made with Meech ending up somewhere else.

I think Kindle (Kindel?) is the only prospect that's almost ready. I don't think he got into the preseason last year because he hurt his leg in training camp, or something like that. We wouldn't have room for him anyway, and another year in the AHL will only help. That's one of the things I love about the Wings. They leave a guy in the minors until he is 100% ready (minus a few games here or there) before bringing him up for good. We've had quite a few guys that were on the verge and we left them in Grand Rapids for an extra season or two, where most teams would bring them up early. That's why we always have a guy in that can step in without a hitch when we lose someone to an injury (like Datsyuk/Lidstrom in these playoffs).

Goalie:
Osgood is the main guy again.
Howard takes over Conklin's role. Time to see if he's NHL material or not. He had some ups and downs in the minors. 2.54 GAA, .915 save% last year. If not, maybe he proves to be a solid backup but not a starter, which is better than nothing.

We've got a few stud prospects in the minors right now. The kid we drafted in the 1st round last year, McCollum, is going to take a few years but Larsson had a decent season splitting time with Howard. I think he even made the AHL All-Star team.



Edit: I wondered why Kopecky didn't get any playing time against Chicago and was jumped by Abdelkader and Leino for the open spots caused by injuries. I completely missed that he's going to need surgery on his face after that Anaheim fight. Hopefully he gets that straightened out and we can keep him.

I thought he was just a grinder, but his last season in Grand Rapids he put up 32 goals and 69 points in 77 games and he was +24. Any chance he's like Cleary, where he was concentrating so much on being a grinder/defensive player that he just needed a boost and his offense blossomed?

I don't dislike Hudler, but he's going to cash in for 3-4 mil a year. I'd rather have Hossa then him and Sammy.

I'd like to see Maltby cut and Kopecky or Sammy back instead (on the 4th line like you have it). I'm not sure if we take a cap hit for cutting him though.

I think we take the cap hit. As much as I'd love to see Maltby retire as a Wing, I know its not happening so if we can replace him with Kopecky now, I'd prefer it. I don't see us bringing Sammy back whether we have Maltby or not.

Bertuzzi

as long as he's a 3rd/4th liner and can put up 15-20 goals I guess that's fine. We'll see if he stays healthy this time.

Bah. He's an ass. I didn't like it the first time, and I like it less now.

Eaves, Williams, and Bertuzzi should all be fighting for 3rd line spots with Helm, Abdelkader, Leino, Draper, and Maltby.

Say Abdelkader goes to GR, Helm, Draper, Leino on line 3. Who's the odd man out on line 4? Eaves, Williams, Bertuzzi, Maltby.....

I'd rather see him in there than Maltby. I really don't think that guy does anything for us. I appreciate what he has done here, but he's not an agitator anymore (doesn't have the speed to constantly chip guys). he doesn't kill penalties as much with our stars being good on defense. Frankly he's replaceable with Helm and Abdelkader. At least Bertuzzi can bring a style of play we haven't had since Shanny. If he sucks, we have enough depth. But if he does well I'd like to see him with guys like Helm and Lieno where maybe his grit can give them some space to operate.

I'd rather have Bertuzzi than Maltby at this point too. Maltby was pretty sad last year and horrible in the playoffs. I'd rather roll the dice on someone else.

If Bertuzzi can cause damage and play well on the third and fourth line that's ok for me.

Those glorious downriver folk will fill the streets with blood if Maltby doesn't play.

I remember saying that Maltby would get one more year with Abdelkader in the minors before we signed these 3 FAs. I still think Abdelkader starts off in the minors for one more year of development, but Maltby has a strong chance of being in the Kopecky role this year: the 13th forward that plays a game here and there to give guys a night off or shake up the lineup.

Chris, I think you have a good point of Bertuzzi with the two youngsters. He's a veteran presence that can open things up a bit for them with his grit, but he can still bring a bit of offense to the line.

I forgot how off Draper was last year as well. -13 is pretty bad.

What happened to Eaves? I remember him being pretty good his first few years in the league. Injury problems or just digressed as a player? Maybe he makes it to the third line. Lieno is a LW, Eaves and Bertuzzi are both RWs.

What about Williams playing himself onto the 3rd line? He's a RW/C. There are a lot of possibilities for those last 2 line right now. And that's all assuming that it's Filpulla moving up to fill Hossa's spot.

From ESPN chat with Scott Burnside:

Jim (Grand Rapids MI)


Hi Scott-What are your thoughts on Bertuzzi coming back to Detroit? I personally like it for 3 reasons: 1. He brings a BIG body with some skill to the team. 2. He's been here before so he knows what the expectatins are and 3. at 1.5M-he's a low-risk gamble
Burnside
(4:19 PM)


Jim; A quick follow-up on Bertuzzi. Injuries, lack of foot speed and a reluctance to play in traffic I think mitigate his usefulness. But he is a low-risk gamble given his salary cap hit.

Cam ((Lansing))


Hey Scott. Where do you think the Red Wings will finish? Other publications have all but handed the Central Division to Chicago, so I was wondering what your take is. Thanks!
Burnside
(4:18 PM)


Cam; I think the Wings have taken a step back losing Kopecky, Hudler, Samuelsson and bringing in Jason Williams and Todd Bertuzzi. Sorry that math doesn't add up. The bigger factor, I think, will be the Olympics where the Wings will see probably half a dozen players jet off to Vancouver for the 2010 Games. Remember the 2005-06 season and how the Wings were upset by the Oilers in the first round after the Turin Games. Never count the Wings out but I think their stock has fallen ever so slightly.
I forgot all about the Olympics. We always take a big hit from that. Two straight years of going all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals, then a the Olympics this year? That's going to take a toll.

Personally, my "expectatins" are pretty low for this move.

From ESPN chat with Scott Burnside:

I forgot all about the Olympics. We always take a big hit from that. Two straight years of going all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals, then a the Olympics this year? That's going to take a toll.
They just need to get young guys a lot more PT early on. Let them grow, even if you drop a couple games. President's trophy is not the goal...the cup is. Get guys like Kindl in there (not just Helm/Lieno/Abdelkader).

I'd also let those guys (Helm and Abdelkader in particular) along with Maltby and Draper do most of the penalty killing early on. Those extra shifts can take a toll on Hank/Pavel/Franzen.

Detroit Red Wings forward Johan Franzen out 4 months with torn ACL - http://tinyurl.com/ylgwszs

That really sucks.

Abdelkader called up, if you care

I care.

Doesn't deserve it's own thread, but wanted to yap...

Going to a couple Ice Hogs games against the Griffins. Jan 23rd and Feb something. Hopefully I'll get to see some guys I'm familiar with from the Wings. I'm really crossing my fingers that Franzen might be with the Griffins in Feb for a couple games and I get lucky, but I'm not holding my breath.

Don't know where else to post this.

I saw most of the game tonight and I really like how the Wings seem to be playing now. They seem to be doing a lot better at getting after the puck carrier and covering guys in open ice. They were very physical and aggressive. Even when Vancouver had way more shots on net, I don't feel that those were amazing quality chances. They weren't incredibly dominant but they were very tough against a good Canucks team.

I've liked Bertuzzi quite a bit. If he can give us ok production and aggressive checking and play I'll be more than happy.

Howard has actually looked really good the past two games. I've been impressed.

Was about to ask that, I only get to see boxscores. We're going to have to make a decision on him this yearprobably, eh?

Yeah, they need to see that he's a #1 next year or he's gone. They have too many skilled players to afford signing a #1 outright, so either Howard is the man or they cut him loose and bring up another goalie to backup Ozzie next year and hope he's the man.

Howard has actually looked really good the past two games. I've been impressed.

Yeah, I only saw one game with him in there (Colorado). He looked solid in that game. It was the defense letting him down. I'm glad he's looked good since.

He was strong and stopped a lot of great shots. But even with the shot differential highly in favor of the Canucks, it was also nice to see that at no point the rest of the team sold him out on D.

How did they fix the D so quickly? Early in the year they were sieves back there.

Well they weren't perfect but the answer is that they just kept moving. They're starting to realize that they have to attack the puck and cover the open man. They limit mistakes in their own end, or at least have players moving to help cover up someones mistake (instead of just having the goalie to it). I also think that when you keep moving your passes are not as lazy and you either don't have as many giveaways, or you're in a better position to not get hurt by them. When you're gliding on your skates and throw a lazy pass across neutral ice to another guy who's gliding you're begging for trouble.

^That's the complex answer. The easy answer is: THEY REMEMBERED THEY WERE THE RED WINGS. They have the deepest D in the league and finally started playing like it.

Jimmy Howard is finally beginning to become what we always hoped he would be.

It's sad that after the last couple months, I'm fully expecting something bad when I open this thread.

It's sad that after the last couple months, I'm fully expecting something bad when I open this thread.

Yeah, I had assumed we lost, down 2-0 like that. Howard's been a god-send to my fantasy team.

I guess I'm forever the optimist with the Wings, but I see them getting into the playoffs as the 7th or 8th seed, but finally healthy, and being a scary team to play. I'm not sure they'll be cup-worthy, but they could do some damage.

Also, I think this is the year to throw Howard in net for the playoffs. The expectations are low, so a trial by fire would be the best way to get him some experience.

As brutal as this season's seemed, we're only 6 points out of the 1 seed.

MoTown is right. They'll make the playoffs, injuries or not. This will do them good too. Guys like Helm are getting lots of minutes and showing good things. If all these guys come back healthy they will be a very deep team (something not thought of after FAs left here this offseason). Howard has looked as good as any Detroit netminder since Dom was in his prime too. He's let a few in, but who hasn't in recent years?

I think the draw is more important than the seed anyway. Hopefully they can get to the 4-5 seed range and at least avoid the better teams until the conference finals.

CuJo retired.

CuJo retired.
Did he wear his jersey inside out at the press conference?

Not really Wings news, but Chelios is a +32 and has 21 pts in the AHL.

Obviously he wouldn't be anywhere near that in the NHL, but it's not too shabby for a 47 yr old playing amongst guys old enough to be his children.

I was fine with him as a 7th defenseman, we just didn't have any room for him

huge win tonight...terrific game...

hopefully Calgary loses @ Vancouver tomorrow and we get revenge on 'em on Monday to cushion our lead.

I'd like to see us pass up Nashville and let them and Calgary duke it out for 8th

In other Red Wings news, Joe Louis Arena is a fucking shithole. So terrible.

^ :insensitive:

On the bright side, it was nice to see that piss troughs still exist, I thought that they died with Tiger Stadium.

In other Red Wings news, Joe Louis Arena is a fucking shithole. So terrible.

I love having my knees in the back of the person in front of me. Seriously, that place was built for midgets I guess because if you're 6'+ tall you can't fit in the damn seats. I really don't care about much of the shortcomings but your seat being painful is a big one. I also love that the top few rows in the corners don't have any elevation gain so you can't even see half the time.

I think the bathrooms have the original sinks in them from the late 70's. Cracked and rust stains all over them. The whole place is a dump.

Yeah, but dumpiness doesn't matter to me as much as the seats, views, etc. Things that affect my ability to enjoy the game suck. They can renovate all they want but that won't fix the seating arrangement (the steps are too steep and narrow to fix that).

Well, the arena they play in certainly isn't commensurate with the success they've had. They certainly shouldn't be playing in a dump.

The Clippers play at the Staples Center.

Which makes this an even bigger travesty.

It is "Hockeytown", after all.

Hockeytown's bathrooms are fine. Their chicken sandwich is terrible though.

They will build a new one in the Fox area, that I am pretty confident of. When is the only question I think.

Hopefully they will tear down Joe Louis and expand Cobo there while utilizing the waterfront view as well.

http://www.nightmareonhelmstreet.com/

Looking forward to tonight on versus. I hope Crosby gets hit every time he touches the puck.

Playing Meech at forward? I know they did it a few times last season, but I didn't know they were that low on wingers.

Looking forward to tonight on versus. I hope Crosby gets hit every time he touches the puck.

What a little bitch. He starts cross-checking guys in the back as time runs out. I lol'd when Howard got involved though, that was awesome. I'm sure there's some bad blood there.

God, Crosby's such a fag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvVwhBpGMk

What a fucking pussy bitch Crosby is. I seriously would not mind running him over with my car. Fucking fag,

I'm sure there's some bad blood there.

Insensitive. Family history.

I like that he whined that Howard has no business being in there. Like Crosby had any business cross checking after the horn. Stupid pussy. Glad they beat that bitch on national TV.

NHL Network saying the win is a sign the Wings are back.

I'd love to face Chicago like I said, San Jose would be my second choice. Both are playing poorly. I think the Wings could certainly make the finals. What dominating team is there in the West to stop them?

NHL Network saying the win is a sign the Wings are back.

I'd put more value on Magic Johnson's opinion.

^^ Beat me to it.


The Wings are definitely looking scary now. You just had to know all season that if guys got healthy by now, there's no way they would miss the playoffs. Crazy that we are as close to the 5th seed as we are to missing the playoffs.

Wings trying to sign Nabokov but he needs to clear waivers first.

Don't worry Tahoe, he's like 35 I think...

and his legs?

Isles claim Nabokov. Damn.

I didn't get to see the whole game but thank god we have Dats back stealing pucks and controling the game.

Howard got a 2-year extension.

4.5 mil seems pretty cheap (that appeared to be total for 2 years) for the NHL leader in wins. Good move.

I'd give him a mil over 10years.

I'd give him a mil over 10years.


4.5 mil seems pretty cheap (that appeared to be total for 2 years) for the NHL leader in wins. Good move.

Wonder what Dumars would've given him, lol.

Good game last night. I noticed Howard must have given up 2 more goals after I stopped watching though.

Howard got a 2-year extension.

Was kind of hoping they'd let Jimmy walk and make a play for Bryzgalov or Vokoun in the offseason. Depending on whether or not Lidstrom returns for another year (my guess is he probably will), the Wings should have plenty of cap space to add a quality player (Ed Jovanovski, anyone?).

Lidstrom, Modano, Draper, Salei, Ericsson, Miller, Eaves, Osgood, and Meech all come off the books. Other than Lidstrom, Ericsson is the only one who I presume the Wings will make a priority on re-signing. Eaves & Miller could get 1 year deals too, but combined they should make $1.5M at the most.

Wings sign D-men Mike Commodore and Ian White plus re-sign Erikisson. The D is now 7 deep not including minor leaguers. Eaves and Miller also re-signed.

Osgood retired, or something.

First ballot HOFer.

Kind of sad to see him go, just for sentimental reasons. One of the most underrated goalies in recent times. He wasn't flashy, and didn't put up insane reg season numbers... but he could rock the fuck out of a playoff game. It was his time to go though.

I dunno about first ballot Tahoe, but it will be a shame if he doesn't get in at some point.

I remember this from back in the day but it's a great re-read:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7326632/making-goon

Got an e-mail: Semin to Detroit rumors

DE?

Funny, I heard that Semin was actually going to land in the #datetowel

@DetroitRedWings
TRADE: The rights to defenseman Brad Stuart have been traded to San Jose for Andrew Murray and a conditional pick in the 2014 NHL Draft.

Got an e-mail: Semin to Detroit rumors

DE?

It's not that I'm against Semin to the Wings. It's just that he's not really the type of player we need. I think he would be vitalized playing with Datsyuk and could definitely contribute. But I feel the Wings need toughness and checking. And I don't mean slow bruisers. Today's hockey IMO is about speed, skill and fore-checking. Hell it's no longer even fore-checking more like total-ice-checking. Those are the teams that win it. Like the two teams in the finals this year, Boston last year or the Wings when they won their last cup. I feel we need players that do that. Semin doesn't fit that mold for me. Parise now...but I don't think the Wings would ever get that lucky.

WOTS: Wings made a "big" offer to Nash (not Steve). What do you make of this, DE? Could you fill us in?

This is late to post, but there was no way in hell the Wings were getting Nash. Columbus was going to ask a lot for Nash (which the Rangers paid) and especially to the Wings, a division rival.

22!

The Dallas Stars will replace Joe Nieuwendyk as general manager with Detroit assistant GM Jim Nill, two sources confirmed to ESPN.com Saturday night.

I miss the good posters.

Glad to see the Wings in the 'offs again. This is the point where I start watching!

I should really start watching regular season again. Need more sports during the 'ter and I have come to hate the NBA.

Glad to see the Wings in the 'offs again. This is the point where I start watching!

I should really start watching regular season again. Need more sports during the 'ter and I have come to hate the Pistons.

WOTS is our Wings are looking at both Bickell and Stalberg.

I hope so. I would take Bickell in heartbeat in the hopes he can be the same player he is these playoffs. Stalberg would be good too. I would love to see the Wings pick up two big, talented power forwards. They need it.

Re-signed Miller - 3 yr / $4.05m

Also interested in Panthers' Stephen Weiss.

This was easily for me the first and most important thing that had to be done this offseason. Datsyuk got re-signed for 3 more years. I think 3 years is a perfect length. Barring injury, with the way players keep in shape today, he easily has 3 good years on him and won't yet be 40 when the contract expires.

That and I'm psyched we keep my favorite player.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130618/SPORTS05/306180033/Pavel-Datsyuk-Red-Wings-extension

Lol @ the pic that shows up first....

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Site=C4&Date=20130618&Category=SPORTS05&ArtNo=306180093&Ref=PH&Item=1&Maxw=640&Maxh=410

Funny, he doesn't look psychotic at all.

Can't believe that he murdered that whole family!

Vinny went to the Flyers.

Would be nice to get Weiss. Ha!

Ahem, MY Flyers.

2-year extension for Smiff
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/daPGt?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=detroit-red-wings

2-year 'tract for 'quist. $1.9m

Wings off until Thursday. Kinda sucks, but they deserved the week or whatever off.

The fuck happened last night? 6-1?!

The score says it all. The Wings fucking sucked right from the drop of the puck. They were down 3-1 halfway through the first period. And Howard was pulled just to get him out of there for the most part. He hadn't made the big save to save their asses but then they didn't deserve saving. They then went from downright awful to just plain shitty and I turned off the tv somewhere in the early second period and felt good about that.

The score says it all. The Wings fucking sucked right from the drop of the puck. They were down 3-1 halfway through the first period. And Howard was pulled(CUZ HE DOESN'T HAVE 'IT' AND SUCKS) just to get him out of there for the most part. He hadn't made the big save to save their asses but then they didn't deserve saving. They then went from downright awful to just plain shitty and I turned off the tv somewhere in the early second period and felt good about that.

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dbzWz?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=detroit-red-wings]Hank, Pav split up; Hope for more offense

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dbzWz?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=detroit-red-wings]Hank, Pav split up; Hope for more offense


These guys are morons. They need to split up Howard from the net. Hahaha

Jokes aside, the Wings have no second line right now. I'm so pissed off but then again it does take time. Putting in two guys who've had to adjust can do that.

But really I'm upset because Datsyuk and Z together is just awesome and deadly. To be able to do that and then have a good second line should be possible.

I haven't watched enuf to comment on all that other stuff. I just know that I've watched hockey for most of my life till a couple of years ago and Howie gives up way too many shitty goals. He sux.

Honestly if you wanted to argue that Howard doesn't make enough big-time saves or carry the team enough to be a big-time goalie we'd have something to talk about and you could make some good points. Last year though I think he did some of that. Still that's a good discussion. And I don't know if he's elite or not. I think he's shown it a bit sometimes but he's not always been that goalie other teams are afraid of come playoff time. When we got Hasek he was old but he became that in 2012 for the Wings at times. And he especially carried those Sabre teams. He took them to that Stanley Cup finals. And he's the reason the Czech Republic won gold one year. Howard's never been anywhere near that.

He can let in some not great goals that's for sure. But have you ever noticed that they happen in games that the Wings never turn around. In other words so many of his soft goals come on shitty D and then we never talk about any great work he may have done (and he's done a lot) afterward? That's of course only based on my personal observations and thoughts but then again, so is the basis of your arguments so we're sort of even there.

I think for the last few years the Wings haven't been awesome at coming back. I also think that the Wings D is good, sometimes great, but they also have had way, way too many lapses that have led to lost games and lost series. Those have been bigger than Howard's shitty goals. I would even say that Howard's even bailed them out more than he's let in soft goals.

Again, elite? No or not yet. Top? I don't know. I think he is or is most of the time. Shitty? Not even close.

Notice how my Friday night is when I'm writing out all my rehashed arguments in long-winded posts.

we has a trade

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445352

MY Red Wings with a HUGE get in the first drafting a Michigan Man.

What does Moss think of their draft? Haven't bothered checking out his Twitter lately.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140813/SPORTS05/308130175/detroit-red-wings-danny-dekeyser

Now I admit I'm a bit overboard with how high I am on Dekeyser, I think the dude could be a Norris candidate in a few years, but the Wings HAVE to make sure he stays for a long time. And he totally should get at least as much as Kyle Quincey IMO.

http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/04/photo-of-the-day-quite-possibly-the-most-immature-red-wings-jersey-weve-ever-seen

So typical. #smh

#TigerGloves

@DetroitRedWings
READ: Babcock is free to explore opportunities; #RedWings' GM will grant teams permission to speak with head coach - http://bit.ly/1zRMzHP

That piece is full of typos, right on the team's own site. #smh

That piece is full of typos, right on the team's own site. #smh
They hired Jacques Demers to write it.

So long, BabCOCK!

:we: didn't need him, anyways!

What a traitor!!!

http://griffinshockey.com.ismmedia.com/ISM3/thumbcache/08e8c66c7b1673858fd18a32dff421d2.200.jpg
BlaSHILL

Red Wings call news conference to introduce Blashill http://on.wzzm.com/1AYjfQu

Glashill

Glashill

Nice.

http://deadspin.com/ex-nhler-current-tsn-analyst-aaron-ward-arrested-for-d-1735842193

Hockey is for Everyone, you guys.

It's going to be a LOOOONNNG time before DetroitExport shows his face around here:

http://www.espn.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=400962001

Is Blashill a good coach? Doesn't seem like it.

Guess Ken Holland being Ken Holland doesn't help either.

So glad :we: were never fans of this trash team

So right you are, DADZIG!

"Hockeytown" my ass! LOL!

"Hockeytown" my ass! LOL!
LOL!

https://warmtakes.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/dead-wings.jpg?w=640

Ha!!!!

We got Zadina, you guys! Get your red on!

We got Zadina, you guys! Get your red on!
I'll remember this night for the rest of my life.

Hey, hey!

FUNKY COLD ZADINA!

FUNKY COLD ZADINA!
BOOM

8-1 loss.

Get your dead on.