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Maxiell on the clock

By the end of training camp (Oct. 31), Jason Maxiell will have to decide either to take a contract extension offer from the Pistons or refuse it and become a restricted free agent at the end of the season.

Dumars said Wednesday that informal negotiations were ongoing with Maxiell's Cincinnati-based agent Richard Katz .

"There's nothing unusual going on and nothing new to report," Katz said in a brief telephone interview. "Nothing is imminent."

The Pistons have offered Maxiell a three-year extension worth approximately $15 million. Should he leave that contract on the table, he would play out the final year of his contract this season (earning $1.87 million) and become a restricted free agent -- which means the Pistons could match any contract offer to Maxiell.

It's a win-win situation for the Pistons. Either they lock up a key reserve player through 2012, or they have a hungry player fighting for a contract this season with the power to match any other team's offer the following summer.

It's a win-win situation for the Pistons. Either they lock up a key reserve player through 2012, or they have a hungry player fighting for a contract this season with the power to match any other team's offer the following summer.

Can't match an offer from Europe, though.

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In before Fool makes MoTown a sandwich then never worries that MoTown didn't riverdance with the Pistons.

The third one is definitely Fool.

In before Fool makes MoTown a sandwich then never worries that MoTown didn't riverdance with the Pistons.

I figured the M's stood for Memo, but looked better as MoTown.

Don't be a heel, take the deal Maxiell.

3 years of the Beast From The Bench. That might be too many.

Hopefully one of the stipulations in the contract will be for Max to learn how to pass.

Seems like a good offer to me. I don't hear anyone talking him having a break out year or something. I mean he's a good player and 5 mil compensates him fairly well, imo.

But I don't follow salaries much.

that's a fair deal IMO. looks win-win to me. j-max's value is greater in our system than it would be for other teams. so he would be wise to take that money and stick with the team willing to keep developing him.

i'm a bit surprised it's 'only' for 3 years but i suppose by that time we'll know whether he's a legit guy we want to pay more to be a part of our next title team (hopefully) or whether he's still just an energy guy to play spot minutes in certain matchups off the bench.

In before finding Max Max a Serbian team named What The Milicic; Darko really wants to play.

in before fool mistakes me as saying that no way that maxiel does resign with the pistons

in before fool mocks me and says there's no way that maxiel doesn't resign with the pistons

Well played, b.

Yeah, that was solid. I knew what you were aimed at with it and I still couldn't get it done. Nice B.

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Maxiell still negotiating
The Pistons remain hopeful to have a contract extension worked out with Jason Maxiell before training camp ends. Detroit has offered the 6-foot-7 forward a three-year, $15 million deal with a team option for a fourth season.

Maxiell is one of a handful of players from the 2005 draft class to be offered a contract extension.

"It's not really important right now," Maxiell said. "I'm just going day by day and see how it goes."

If the two sides do not reach an agreement, he will become a restricted free agent next summer.

I really don't see JoeD feeling like we really, REALLY need this guy if we are going to have success in the future or something.

I think we'll have McDyess or Maxiell after this year, not both.

I think we'll have McDyess or Maxiell after this year, not both.

How do you figure?? I think Dumars will match any offersheet Max gets...unless it's like Boris Diaw money...

Depending on the year McDyess has, the only reason we'd unload him next offseason is if he's no longer an asset, in which case I find it hard to believe anybody else would want him...

And then we'd bring him back on the cheap as a veteran presence or he'd retire.

$12 million for two backup bigs, one of whom is barely a C and the other is definitely not. Add another $3 million if Amir isn't ready to start (in which case he's unlikely to be a serviceable C). So, you're talking potentially $15 million for backup PFs? It seems like a bit much to me.

Dyess gets play at the 5.

I really do not care for maxiels game, what does he exactly do besides act like he actually can take people in the post with his back to the basket. Poor mans Barkley.

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love j-max and think he can and IS a pretty valuable player for us. but he's taking a hell of a risk by turning down this extension and heading for RFA. first off, he's far more valuable to a team like ours than other teams around the league IMO.

and 2nd- what if, god forbid, he should have a serious injury this year? what sort of contract would he get after next season?

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2008/10/pistons_maxiell_to_become_rest.html

love j-max and think he can and IS a pretty valuable player for us. but he's taking a hell of a risk by turning down this extension and heading for RFA. first off, he's far more valuable to a team like ours than other teams around the league IMO.

and 2nd- what if, god forbid, he should have a serious injury this year? what sort of contract would he get after next season?

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2008/10/pistons_maxiell_to_become_rest.html

It's a gamble, but I'll bet he gets a full MLE if he stays clean.

then so be it. we will have the option to match any offer he gets anyway. so it makes sense for us too.

but you're right- if brian cardinal and players like that can get it, he probably can too.

but my thing is that he's an undersized PF whose main abilities are 'hustle' plays. no doubt he can bring instant energy and change a game at times. but he not much of a scoring threat, he's a very poor FT shooter and he's an inconsistent (at best) offensive threat.

not trying to dis him because he has really improved his game offensively and is developing a nice little 10-12 foot shot.

but what i'm saying is that i'm not so sure other teams would find him as attractive as we do. his style of play fits in detroit better than anywhere else. so he MIGHT not get the money he thinks he will on the open market.

only time will tell...

Fuck him, he can eat babies somewhere else if he overvalues himself.

Don't rule out Europe.

Dude could dominate.

He should play in China where they don't care about babies.

MAXIELL-RIDING LIONS

The baby supply in china has been tainted with bad milk. Europe is still an option though.

The baby supply in china has been tainted with bad milk. Europe is still an option though.
LOL

Ronnie Turiaf, who I don't think is an awful comparison, got 4 years, $17M, so this seemed like a decent deal for Maxiel. Maybe he just wants more years.

I love Max, but he's not the brightest guy. He brings his energy, but the guy goes through slumps months at a time. It would suck to lose his energy, but I don't want to overpay an energy guy.

On the bright side, if he's going to be a RFA at the end of the year, he's going to play his ass off this year.



He should play in China where they don't care about babies.

That was awesome.

Ronnie Turiaf, who I don't think is an awful comparison, got 4 years, $17M, so this seemed like a decent deal for Maxiel. Maybe he just wants more years.
From an age perspective, he'd probably get a better contract at the end of 3 years at age 29 than he would at the end of 4 and the big 3-0.

I just don't get this at all. I gave Maxiell credit for more brains than this.

Not new threadworthy, but interesting nonetheless.

You can skip right by this post, Fool.


Pistons GM Joe Dumars is facing some tough negotiations in the next few years. Forward Jason Maxiell’s decision to turn down Detroit’s three-year, $15 million extension — it would have included a team option for a fourth year — was just the first of many to come. Richard Hamilton will probably opt out of his contract after this season, and the Pistons need to decide whether to give him an extension. Amir Johnson will be unrestricted in the summer of 2010, and many expect a bidding war. Tayshaun Prince will also be a free agent that summer. Dumars also needs to decide whether to extend the contracts of Arron Afflalo and Rodney Stuckey.

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2008/10/26/sports/doc490406110af0b527179086.txt

The News Herald is a yellow rag.

Chris McCosky / The Detroit News
AUBURN HILLS -- He took it nearly to the wire, but Jason Maxiell on Thursday accepted a contract extension that will keep the power forward with the Pistons through 2012.

Final language was being worked out Thursday afternoon between Pistons president Joe Dumars and Maxiell's agent Richard Katz, but the two sides have agreed on a deal for four years at $20 million.

A week ago, Katz said that the negotiations had broken off and Maxiell was willing to play the season out and become a restricted free agent in July.

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But Katz met with Dumars again Wednesday and accepted the basic parameters of the deal.

The deadline to sign extensions was today.

That's a good deal IMO. Yes, he's a limited player, but similar role player PFs have gotten a lot more (MLE or better). I'm happy with the deal. Even if we didn't have room for him at some point it would be an easy contract to move.

That's a good deal IMO. Yes, he's a limited player, but similar role player PFs have gotten a lot more (MLE or better). I'm happy with the deal. Even if we didn't have room for him at some point it would be an easy contract to move.

Let's move it soon.

Can't, not for a while. Isn't it a 3 month wait now?

meh- not bad. it's not cheap and he's just a role player. but it's less than the league average and he can be very valuable to us, even if it's just when playing 18-20 minutes a night, tops.

i'm cool with it. perhaps we should have let him test RFA but oh well...

This deal looks even better for Max if the MLE amount drops significantly after this year.

BRI is going to go into the toilet, it would appear.

We fucked up on this one.

We fucked up on this one.

Na, I think that we could get out of the contract if we need to. Wouldn't "eating babies" be a no-no under the morality clause?

We fucked up on this one.

I'm glad someone agrees with me.

He can't play SF and he can't play C. His rebounding is better, but still iffy. He has good help defense, but so-so interior D (unless the other guy happens to be an undersized PF). So, he has limited flexibility.

I think he's going to get out of the funk he's in, but I think that 4th year guaranteed at near-MLE was a bit much.

I don't think he'd have gotten that much on the open market, that's for sure. He's going to always be a solid bench guy, but never anything more. Bringing him in for energy when we need it is the perfect role for him, the 4th big man. Once McDyess gets back he'll be moved more into that role, the 4th or 5th big with Amir Johnson.