"Babies, Lies and Scandal" US Weekly

"Vice in Go Go boots" NYTimes

"No Experience Necessary" Slate

"How good a Mom can Sarah Palin be? The Daily Telegraph

The country should be ashamed of this in this day in age.

Stop being a whiner

^ yea, thats funny but this is really beyond funny, imo, for the media to be so sexist.

Well, I'd have to see what those stories entail, but I'm sure there is plenty of sexism going on. There is no call for it, but you can't stop freedom of speech.

Where was the outrage when it wasn't a Republican being talked about?

They are showing up late to the party, IMO.

"Babies, Lies and Scandal" US Weekly

"No Experience Necessary" Slate
I'm not sure that these are "sexist". "No Experience Necessary" isn't sexist. And "Babies, Lies, and Scandal" is pretty typical US Weekly celebrity reporting, regardless of gender. It toggles between gossip and minor sleaze. When Obama was on the cover of US Weekly, the byline read "Why Barack Loves Her" and he was asked "Boxers or Briefs". Sexist? Racist? Nah.


"How good a Mom can Sarah Palin be? The Daily Telegraph

The country should be ashamed of this in this day in age.
BTW, The Daily Telegraph is British.

There's sexism directed at Palin, of course. But a lot of the Palin issues have nada to do with her gender.

"Babies, Lies and Scandal" US Weekly

"Vice in Go Go boots" NYTimes

"No Experience Necessary" Slate

"How good a Mom can Sarah Palin be? The Daily Telegraph

The country should be ashamed of this in this day in age.

1. should this country be ashamed of a British paper (daily telegraph)

2. can you find any famous teenage pregnancy story that Us Weekly didn't run with?

3. why is a story about her lack of experience (slate) sexist? Are stories about obama's lack of experience racist? for someone "dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck" i can't recall him ever complaining that stories about his lack of experience as racist. instead he turns discussion to judgment.

4. maureen dowd is an idiot, and is in league with bill kristol as one of the worst op-ed writers in america as far as i am concerned. she has been just as sexist toward hillary. other stories from her this year.

hillary: all about eve, Can Hillary Cry Her Way Back to the White House?, Hillary la Française, Cherchez la Femme?

obama: eggheads and cheeseballs

i agree that the right wing dr. laura is sexist.


I am extremely disappointed in the choice of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate of the Republican Party. I will still vote for Senator McCain, because I am very concerned about having a fundamental leftist, especially one who is a marvelous orator, as President.

I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain? I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age. But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

I am haunted by the family pictures of the Palins during political photo-ops, showing the eldest daughter, now pregnant with her own child, cuddling the family’s newborn. When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation. Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and you’re on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, where’s your attention going to be? Where should your attention be? Well, once you put your hand on the Bible and make that oath, your attention has to be with the government of the United States of America.

http://www.drlaurablog.com/

So the NYTimes did a story referencing someone else that she was in some seccesionist party. Problem is that the person retracted her comments saying she got her facts wrong. Of course NO correction by the Times.

Who knows if she was or wasn't at this point.

And to me, its kind of ironic that BO can be on the board with someone who bombed police stations and the Pentagon but that never made the NYTimes list cept to defend him. But if you belonged to a party that wanted to secceed legally, you are called out by the liberal press.

live mic of righties peggy noonan and mike murphy calling the palin choice cynical.

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That vicious right winger ben stein says




I don't think she's said a word in her life about the national economy, which contributes to making this one of the oddest choices in the history of presidential politics. I think this may go down as the most peculiar vice presidential choice there's ever been.

They were selling themselves as the keen (?) ticket of experience. That's out the window. They were selling themselves as the ticket of steady habits. That's out the window. They were selling them as the ticket of people who are ready to deal with America in a foreign policy crisis. That's out the window. What we have now is back to what you might call fundamentalist, born-again, backwoods values of the United States of America. That's fine. I love those values. I'm all for them. I believe in intelligent design, which I'm probably the only person to ever be on CNN who believes in that. But let us be fair about this, she's a very different person from what John McCain was advertising himself as and in terms of the economy, as far as I know, she has absolutely zero background in it. That's fine. Neither did John F. Kennedy, but somebody's got to get in there and fill her in on it really quick.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/3/154222/4849/905/584897

Wow, really? This is too much, Tahoe.

If I don't call you a racist because you think Obama's unqualified, I don't think you should be calling anyone a sexist because they think Sarah Palin is unqualified. Which she is, enormously.

It's clear that the GOP did learn something very important from Hillary's primary campaign: if a woman is running, and people just plain won't support her, you can accuse them of being sexist. Because somehow it's more important to worry about sexism in a political campaign than it is when abortion or equal pay is on the line.

You gotta get out of this mentality man. It's the mentality where some incredibly powerful people go on the TV and tell you what upsets them and you start thinking, "gee, maybe what upsets them should upset me too!" We've been so powerless beneath the rich and powerful for so long that so many of us just identify with one of them as a way to show some tiny piece of identity.

Look at John McCain. Look at Sarah Palin. In fact, look at Obama and Biden too. You shouldn't be thinking "I really need to be concerned with what kind of people they are and how they are portrayed in the media." John McCain divorced his first wife because she got in an accident and wasn't pretty enough anymore, and then he married a rich girl. Barack Obama grew up with a globetrekking mom and lived in Hawaii and Indonesia and did cocaine and went to Harvard. These people are NOT LIKE US. They are rich and powerful and have the world by the balls no matter whether they win or lose. But if the housing market stays like this for another eight months I could seriously lose everything I have, and the housing market could very well be stabilized by a competent White House.

What people feel or say about Sarah Palin has absolutely nothing to do with me. But what Sarah Palin might do as President, or even Vice President, could very well affect me. You gotta stop identifying with these people. They are a whole different species, and the things that hurt their feelings personally are a million miles away from whether or not school districts can afford decent textbooks.

In conclusion,

LOL

So the NYTimes did a story referencing someone else that she was in some seccesionist party. Problem is that the person retracted her comments saying she got her facts wrong. Of course NO correction by the Times.

Who knows if she was or wasn't at this point.

And to me, its kind of ironic that BO can be on the board with someone who bombed police stations and the Pentagon but that never made the NYTimes list cept to defend him. But if you belonged to a party that wanted to secceed legally, you are called out by the liberal press.

We know that her husband was officially registered in the party until 2002. we also know that she thinks "Your party plays an important role in our state's politics,". Anyways, you must realize that working at a education non-profit with someone is far different than belonging to a secessionist political party. obama may or may not have even known about ayers past, but todd must have known the platform of the political party. face it: you've basically given up the ayers and wright cards by picking palin. here is the alaskan leader:


"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

"And I won't be buried under their damn flag," Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. "I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5708751

Wow, really? This is too much, Tahoe.

If I don't call you a racist because you think Obama's unqualified, I don't think you should be calling anyone a sexist because they think Sarah Palin is unqualified. Which she is, enormously.

It's clear that the GOP did learn something very important from Hillary's primary campaign: if a woman is running, and people just plain won't support her, you can accuse them of being sexist. Because somehow it's more important to worry about sexism in a political campaign than it is when abortion or equal pay is on the line.

You gotta get out of this mentality man. It's the mentality where some incredibly powerful people go on the TV and tell you what upsets them and you start thinking, "gee, maybe what upsets them should upset me too!" We've been so powerless beneath the rich and powerful for so long that so many of us just identify with one of them as a way to show some tiny piece of identity.

Look at John McCain. Look at Sarah Palin. In fact, look at Obama and Biden too. You shouldn't be thinking "I really need to be concerned with what kind of people they are and how they are portrayed in the media." John McCain divorced his first wife because she got in an accident and wasn't pretty enough anymore, and then he married a rich girl. Barack Obama grew up with a globetrekking mom and lived in Hawaii and Indonesia and did cocaine and went to Harvard. These people are NOT LIKE US. They are rich and powerful and have the world by the balls no matter whether they win or lose. But if the housing market stays like this for another eight months I could seriously lose everything I have, and the housing market could very well be stabilized by a competent White House.

What people feel or say about Sarah Palin has absolutely nothing to do with me. But what Sarah Palin might do as President, or even Vice President, could very well affect me. You gotta stop identifying with these people. They are a whole different species, and the things that hurt their feelings personally are a million miles away from whether or not school districts can afford decent textbooks.

In conclusion,

Which is why when Mxy pointed out that not all of those comments were sexist, I changed, or attempted to change the title of the thread to 'smear' also.

Now I know you can make basically the same argument that because someone asks whether she is qualified is smear. But the left is very good at mixing in lies with some truth to create a shitty view of her.

See KOS, and all those other shitty web sites.

I can't find Andrea Mitchells comments anymore but she is also questioning whether Palin can be a good mother and be veep. Funny Andrea, didn't hear you ask if BO can be Prez and be a good father.

Sexism abound.

^ yea, thats funny but this is really beyond funny, imo, for the media to be so sexist.
Dont be a vagina. You support a party filled with sexist "bitch get your ass in the kitchen" muthafuckas. Its no coincidence they picked a chick who doesnt even know what vp is. Easier to keep in line.

I can't find Andrea Mitchells comments anymore but she is also questioning whether Palin can be a good mother and be veep. Funny Andrea, didn't hear you ask if BO can be Prez and be a good father.

Sexism abound.
You're just illustrating my point. If someone asks her a queer question like that, who gives a shit? I wouldn't care if the media called Obama the love child of Hitler and Satan. The media doesn't hand out no-bid contracts for Iraq reconstruction that go directly to companies who pocket the cash and leave the country. The media don't do shit. They're worthless. (Andrea Mitchell is even less - what a smoking turd she is.) The President is still the big swinging dick in the room and we all know that. He's more powerful than 357 members of Congress.

It's not about the personality, it's not about the narrative, it's not about the ads, and it's not about the goddamn campaign. It's about who says they're gonna do what. And for the first time in a long time, we got 2 guys who are stubborn enough to give us two pretty different pictures of what they'd like to accomplish. It's easy to make that call.

Dont be a vagina. You support a party filled with sexist "bitch get your ass in the kitchen" muthafuckas. Its no coincidence they picked a chick who doesnt even know what vp is. Easier to keep in line.

Better than all those gals with hairy armpits, wearing peace shirts and birkenstock babes you have.

You're just illustrating my point. If someone asks her a queer question like that, who gives a shit? I wouldn't care if the media called Obama the love child of Hitler and Satan. The media doesn't hand out no-bid contracts for Iraq reconstruction that go directly to companies who pocket the cash and leave the country. The media don't do shit. They're worthless. (Andrea Mitchell is even less - what a smoking turd she is.) The President is still the big swinging dick in the room and we all know that. He's more powerful than 357 members of Congress.

It's not about the personality, it's not about the narrative, it's not about the ads, and it's not about the goddamn campaign. It's about who says they're gonna do what. And for the first time in a long time, we got 2 guys who are stubborn enough to give us two pretty different pictures of what they'd like to accomplish. It's easy to make that call.

Ok, and when you are done with me can you go straighten out all those lefties in LOL@Palin thread?

Sally Quinn = Sexist

All this sexism talk is silly. I'm sure Palin will do a great job in office when she's in between popping out babies and doing McCain's laundry.
Sorry, Tahoe.

I see what you did there.

Better than all those gals with hairy armpits, wearing peace shirts and birkenstock babes you have.
Ah so when they are hideous Liberal whores sexism is ok?. And for the record I claim no party, I just hate yours most. But its not geared towards my demographic, area, or beliefs so i'd be an idiot to support that dog shit. .

Is it sexism to assert that Sarah Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner? Supposedly, the National Enquirer has some serious dope, and in the wake of John Edwards... hmm...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

Slut.

The Enquirer really helped themselves with the Edwards story, but they can give it all back and then some if this thing is phony.

Hopefully, they've done their homework.

(It's still not to be trusted until a legit media source can corroborate)

Good for her. Get a lil on the side. Men can do it, so can she. Another example of sexism. :)

Except that if she did get a little something on the side she is DONE like Edwards. Family values go out the window, if true.

^ Yea right. I'm sure you said the same thing about Clinton.

Clinton was already in office. It's one thing to impeach a president (look at what Bush has gotten away with too), it's another thing to not vote for a cheater. If this is proven before November I think it kills her career, and McCain's.

Disagree. If she had an affair some time ago, it means next to nothing.

And what exactly has Bush 'got away with'

Disagree. If she had an affair some time ago, it means next to nothing.

Chris walked into that one. Tahoe has already had to make that claim for McCain.

Personally, I'd go with the "The Right is the side of 'family values and moral superiority,' not the Left which doesn't shun them illegals, gays and ... female gays."

^ you and DRay need to go read up on your family values. You keep mentioning it as you've heard on MSNBC and your left wing blogs.

I think they've finally gotten to Tahoe, he's been brainwashed.

Well, DRay in particular thinks family values means Mom stays home.

^ LOL

Point out where I said that.

What are you talking about? The Right has historically been the "moral values" party. The Moral Majority, the Religious Right, the Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, all conservative "we are better than you" supporters.

You can't seriously be claiming that the GOP hasn't been the "keep the dirty, immoral, heathens out of the government" party can you.

What are you talking about? The Right has historically been the "moral values" party. The Moral Majority, the Religious Right, the Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, all conservative "we are better than you" supporters.

You can't seriously be claiming that the GOP hasn't been the "keep the dirty, immoral, heathens out of the government" party can you.


Find 10 links that state that specifically for me, otherwise, LOL.

Chris walked into that one. Tahoe has already had to make that claim for McCain.

Personally, I'd go with the "The Right is the side of 'family values and moral superiority,' not the Left which doesn't shun them illegals, gays and ... female gays."

BUT MCCAIN IS A POW! HE CAN'T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS.

51% say Reporters are trying to hurt Palin, 39% say she has more experience than BO. I'm sure there is plenty for both camps in the article but thats the what the title is.

Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/51_say_reporters_are_trying_to_hurt_palin_39_say_s he_has_better_experience_than_obama)

Sexism directed at the other Palin:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/todd-palin-hagee/

Is that the guy that JM told him to keep his endorsement? Or was that the other nutjob.

McCain was forced to reject Hagee and Parsley (probably the other guy you're talking about).

^ forced? His decisions show character.

Come on Mxy, get on board the Straight Talk Express!

BTW...I'm assuming Andrea Mitchell was eating sour lemons last night or something. She just looked like a complete sourpuss. And talk about marinalizing her speech...really showed her true colors.

Tahoe, this one goes out to you, my homie. (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=Sarah-Palin-Gender-Card)

I don't like Jon Stewart cuz he is always attacking Christians.j/kkindof

Is this sexist?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2828849760_29fa721142.jpg?v=0

^that's screaming for a caption contest

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/05/cnbc-host-praises-palin-for-putting-a-skirt-on-i-want-her-laying-next-to-me-in-bed/

I'm not sure that these are "sexist". "No Experience Necessary" isn't sexist. And "Babies, Lies, and Scandal" is pretty typical US Weekly celebrity reporting, regardless of gender. It toggles between gossip and minor sleaze. When Obama was on the cover of US Weekly, the byline read "Why Barack Loves Her" and he was asked "Boxers or Briefs". Sexist? Racist? Nah.
The female author of the U.S. Weekly story on Palin is voting for McCain, and confirms my characterization of the magazine:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mara-reinstein/im-voting-for-mccain-and_b_123904.html


We're a magazine that thrives on babies, intriguing women and scandals. For this particular week, our potential vice president just happened to fit the bill. (Sorry, Angelina).

Any truth to the rumor that the National Organzation for Women (NOW) is renaming itself NOLW? National Organization for Liberal Women? j/k

I hope that shit organization isn't getting any tax dollars.

Any truth to the rumor that the National Organzation for Women (NOW) is renaming itself NOLW? National Organization for Liberal Women? j/k

I hope that shit organization isn't getting any tax dollars.

Sean Hannity, eh Tahoe?

You can do better.

Some of those NOW folks are dropped-on-their-head batshit crazy. It's notable that NOW folks are among the most likely to be Hillary dead-enders, and Palin was supposed to attract them.

Sean Hannity, eh Tahoe?

You can do better.

I thought it was a great segment. He drills, drills, drills.

Some of those NOW folks are dropped-on-their-head batshit crazy. It's notable that NOW folks are among the most likely to be Hillary dead-enders, and Palin was supposed to attract them.

I don't think JM's campaign thought for a second that they'd be able to sway all of those nutjobs, just some of them.

I think hte pick was more so he could go with the change message and solidifying her base.

It happened.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08Palin.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)

Did your buddy text you that link?

also lol

And Mxy, I saw some poll where Palin is doing ok with those undecideds. We'll see...

Is the mccain campaign sexist?

1. Her only public interview was with People magazine.

2. The fox news 'biography' was mostly about the challenges of balancing motherhood with other responsibilities.

thus, she is only made available for soft focus personality pieces.

3. She's going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the next four years, and most doctors think that he'll be around at least that long," said Charlie Black
foot of the master sounds very submissive to me.

4. rick davis says: "She'll agree to an interview when we think it's time" why no interviews this weekend? davis and mccain can take questions but she can't

5. not the mccain campaign but a hard core repub activist and writer says: "I realize, of course, that she’s totally unqualified to be President at this point in time. If McCain were to die in February 2009, I hope Palin would have the good sense to appoint someone who is more ready to be President to be her Vice President, on the understanding that she would then resign and be appointed Vice President by her successor."
has anyone ever suggested that for a male vp?
http://theamericanscene.com/2008/08/29/ru-experienced

She's a average looking whore, her daughter is ok looking for a 17 year old whore, but too young and just too preggo for the hot rod.

Republicans, claiming a monopoly on the term "lipstick" owing to Palin, present Obama's criticism of McCain's economic policy as an attack on Palin.
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A grownup responds to the situation:
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BTW, the lady on the cover was McCain's PR person:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2846255712_2c794bafc2_o.jpg

Mxy, BO was calling Palin a pig. Thats not sexist, thats just the low blow politics of the past. I know BO was referring to Palin when he said that cuz Sean Hannity said so.

Here's John McCain talking about Hillarycare in an OBVIOUSLY sexist way!

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(FWIW, I agree with McCain on this one.)

Mxy, BO was calling Palin a pig. Thats not sexist, thats just the low blow politics of the past. I know BO was referring to Palin when he said that cuz Sean Hannity said so.
LOL
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Sean said it, so let it be written, so let it be done.

Tahoe, let not your heart be troubled.

Also, I heard Hannity say "pride comes before the fall" yesterday.

I really need to start listening to Rush too. He's on AM, right?

Also, I heard Hannity say "pride comes before the fall" yesterday.


hopefully he knocked on wood, that catch phrase didn't work well for the last guy who used it...

CBS had Youtube pull the lipstick ad because Katie Couric footage was misused.

The Lipstick ad's use of factcheck.org itself was deemed bogus, too:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158265

McCain's daughter defends Obama, too:

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/09/10/meghan-mccain-my-dad-says-lipstick-on-a-pig/

I added a ? to this thread title, hope y'all don't mind.

Additional ? requests will be handled on a first come, first served basis.

Like I said at the other place....JM would do himself a favor if he let the media run with this lipstick thing.

For JM to run that ad is ridiculous, imo.

Was he directing it at Palin? I'll never know, but this is crazy to assume and take up the time in an election year talking about something so fucking stupid.

I added a ? to this thread title, hope y'all don't mind.

Additional ? requests will be handled on a first come, first served basis.

Tahoe cries 'bullshit!

S Carolina Democratic Chair said WHAT?

Jesus Christ this Sarah Palin thing has turned some Dems upside down.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/NMDad/PalinPutin.jpg

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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014651.php

Lesbo Barbie action featuring Palin and Pamela Anderson!

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24333997-5006003,00.html

I didn't know Alaska had so many women, let alone anti-Palin ones:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-13-anti-Palin-rally_N.htm

Critics Question Palin's Record on "Epidemic" Rape, Domestic Violence in Alaska
Effort to Tackle Sex Violence Stalled by Palin's Office, Sources Say

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804581&page=1

^from that link:


Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible rapes per capita, according to the FBI, with a rate two and a half times the national average – a ranking it has held for many years. Children are no safer: Public safety experts believe that the prevalence of rape and sexual assault of minors in Alaska makes the state's record one of the worst in the U.S.

(cont.)

State troopers respond to most domestic violence calls outside of Alaska's major cities, but they're too short-staffed and under-funded to do it well, according to Robert Claus, a recently retired trooper.
"The training says you always respond to domestic violence with two people, [but] for most of my career that hasn't been possible," said Claus, who lives on the remote island he patrolled for 15 years. "So how do you go down the list and do what you're supposed to do – separate the people, transport one person while taking care of the kids and victim? You have to pick and choose. We haven't seen the money to do that."

In an interview Wed. arranged by the McCain-Palin campaign, former Palin aide Meg Stapleton defended her old boss' record. "One of the governor's number one priorities since taking office has always been to tackle domestic violence in the state of Alaska," said Stapleton.
There seems to be a disconnect here.

The really ironic part is that she claims that she fired the police commissioner because he wanted better laws and more resources for dealing with sex crimes.

Oh, here's another bit of sexism from someone who'd know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yyc32ciiGs
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If it were on MSNBC would be a travesty, but since it's on Fox News, it's funny!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZcNA7PIAIE