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08-22-2008, 09:44 AM
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Joe Dumars Q&A - Part I
Pistons president Joe Dumars sat down with Pistons.com editor Keith Langlois on Thursday to answer questions about the summer’s activity – and inactivity – and his thoughts as the Pistons prepare for training camp in just more than a month. Here’s Part I of the edited transcript of their conversation:
Keith Langlois: Let’s start with this, because I’m sure you haven’t been able to get a haircut or fill up your tank this summer without someone asking you when the trade’s coming or what’s going on, so where are we with that? Are you at all disappointed or frustrated that nothing has happened when you went into the summer pretty emphatically saying you wanted to get something done?
Joe Dumars: You know what? I’m not disappointed and I’m not frustrated. I’m never disappointed or frustrated when there’s nothing on the table to pull the trigger on a good deal. When there’s no good deal to be made, you can’t get frustrated and disappointed and force yourself to do something that’s not smart. I’ll reiterate what I said early on after the season was over. That we would be open to doing any deal but I’m not going to give players away and make a bad deal. I understand the way the world works now. I understand the way the media and fans hear and decipher what they want to. So when people ask me what about the big trade, my response is always the same: What big trade is that? What I said was I would go out and try to make a deal if there was one to be made, but don’t look for me to give anybody away. What was presented over the summer were deals that would have had us giving players away. That wasn’t going to happen. I said that during the press conference. I’m sure that got lost in translation. People hear what they want to.
KL: Do you think that maybe because you were so emphatic and public that other teams thought, he’s desperate and would take 50 cents on the dollar?
JD: That happens no matter what you say, whether you say anything or not. That’s the process of trade calls. You’re never going to get the first call where it’s a sweetheart deal and you feel, wow, we have to do this and you jump on it. It’s just the process. So I’m never worried about that aspect of it. That’s not how it works. It’s hard to explain, but that’s not how it works. The reason you see so few trades in this business is that both sides can’t get what they want out of the deal. When you do see a big trade, it’s news. There’s a reason for that. It has nothing to do with any kind of declaration you’ve made publicly. If that was the case, you’d see a lot more deals done. Most people try to be a little more coy about it and a little more secretive and still can’t get deals done.
KL: We’re a little more than a month out from when training camp will open. I know the Rip Hamilton-Jerry Stackhouse trade happened late, but are we getting kind of close to the window closing and you say we’re going to training camp with who we’ve got or are we already at that point?
JD: I think that I would be very surprised if anyone called at this point to offer the type of deal I was open to and had been open to doing. I don’t expect that call. So therefore, I expect us to go to war, if you will, with the guys we have on this roster we have right now, with the 14 guys we have now. And I say that just because I don’t expect to hear from anyone at this point about the size of the deal we were talking about doing.
KL:Michael Curry said about a week after he was hired that it was your call on the roster, but he would be perfectly happy if it came back just the way it was. He was kind of looking forward to working with those guys. Has the fact he said that and the fact you guys are of like mind and have had a whole summer to talk about it, has he influenced you at all to maybe not be so anxious to trade as you seemed to be in June?
JD: Once again, that’s not how it works. If there was a deal to be done, I would have pulled the trigger. The reason we haven’t done a deal is there was no good deal to be made. If there was a good deal to be made, we would have done it and we would be moving forward right now. Michael and I are of like mind. And the way we’re of like mind on this issue is I feel very comfortable going to battle with the guys we have coming back, just as he is. But that wasn’t going to stop me from pursuing to see if we could get better and make a deal. The way it works is, you work it and you work it and you work it and you grind away to try to make a deal. And when you can’t, you look at your team and you say this is not bad to go to war with right here. That’s basically how it worked over the course of the summer.
KL: I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this question, but I think it bears asking anyway. You’ve got to be really tough to make it to this level of basketball and to compete in six straight Eastern Conference finals, so I think you’re comfortable with the psyche of your team, but are you at all concerned that because you basically told these guys that we’ve gone to war with you the last three or four times and now haven’t gotten it done and I want to change the mix, that you’ve planted the seed with them that maybe he doesn’t think we’re good enough to get it done?
JD: That’s not how it works. Hey, listen, I love these questions, because I don’t mind answering the questions, because so often when you sit in this seat, you really have to deal with misinformation and lack of knowledge of how it works. You can go back and replay the press conference. “I’m open to moving anybody. There are no sacred cows. We haven’t gotten it done and I don’t like the way we’ve gone about our business. There wasn’t enough of a sense of urgency. I didn’t see desperation to win and if I can make a big deal, I will.” But in my conversations with Prince and Rasheed and Chauncey, I think those guys have made some public pronouncements of we want to try to come back and get it done. So I don’t worry about the psyche of the guys coming back, because they want to come back. They want to prove, Joe, we can get it done. So that’s not a bad position to be in. Now, the opposite of that is, if I said what I said during the early summer and the guys didn’t want to come back, then you would be concerned about it. But these guys have told you and they’ve told other people, we want to come back, we want to keep this together. They’re not saying that to come back if their psyche is not right. There have been other situations where things have come up and they’re like, you know what, they need to move me. And that’s not happened here. Because these guys understand that they’ve been supported here for a long time, big time. Whether we got it done and won championships and got to the Finals or not. And after five or six years, there’s some accountability to that. That’s all that’s happened. Myself, coaches, players, we hold ourselves to an incredibly high standard. We keep pressing. When a guy says he doesn’t want to be here, then that’s when it becomes an issue. But that’s not the case and those guys have said it publicly.
KL: What’s been the tenor of the conversations you have had with guys like Chauncey and Rip? Have they done any lobbying to stay?
JD: No, no lobbying to stay. I feel like I have such a unique relationship with all of those guys. They’ve been here for such a long time. When you have a relationship with people that’s built on truthfulness and honesty, you can have any conversation you want. That’s the relationship I have with these guys – truthfulness and honesty. I’ve had some absolutely great conversations with Rip, Rasheed, Chauncey, McDyess, with Prince before he left for the Olympics, obviously with all the young guys. Chauncey and I were on the phone a long time last night talking about different things. This has been a good summer from my perspective, because the complacency that I’ve taken issue with, the lack of urgency that I’ve taken issue with, has been front and center in a lot of conversations I’ve had with guys and it’s straightforward, no cute language, here’s the deal. It’s been a very good summer for me from that standpoint. There is no gray area about where we stand right now.
KL: What can those guys tell you, or beyond words even, what can they do to convince you that that won’t be an issue going forward?
JD: The only thing anyone can do at this point is talk to you about it. There’s nothing you can do in July or August from an actionable standpoint. The only thing you can look for at this time of year is taking responsibility and acknowledging. If you think there is an issue with something, the only way you can correct it is acknowledging it and take responsibility for it. I’m happy to sit here and say I’ve had conversations with all of these guys and no one – not one guy – has tried to shuck responsibility. Every single guy has stepped up and said you’re absolutely right. I understand when people are not privy to those conversations, you hear all kinds of wild theories about this and that. It is what it is. But every single guy understands the standards that we’ve set, we’ve not reached our goal. I have to say this, though, before people get too outlandish in their thoughts. I’m really, really, really proud of what these guys have done over the last six years and that can’t get lost. I’m disappointed we haven’t reached our ultimate goal, but I would sure hate for people to think that these guys haven’t been tremendously successful. What we’ve done here over the last six or seven years is unprecedented. I appreciate it and I’ve told that to each and every one of those guys. I appreciate the battles you’ve been in. But we didn’t get to where we ultimately wanted to get and that has to be disappointing for you, me and everybody else. But don’t ever think I don’t appreciate it. You guys have gone to war for years here now and you’ve battled and you’ve won and you’ve won divisions and you’ve been to the conference finals six years in a row and nobody else has done that. Don’t misunderstand how much I appreciate that. And I hope fans and media and everyone else around here appreciates it, because I do. It’s not lost on me. And too often it’s taken for granted. And that’s not right. Point blank, that’s not right.
Joe Dumars Q&A - Part I
Pistons president Joe Dumars sat down with Pistons.com editor Keith Langlois on Thursday to answer questions about the summer’s activity – and inactivity – and his thoughts as the Pistons prepare for training camp in just more than a month. Here’s Part I of the edited transcript of their conversation:
Keith Langlois: Let’s start with this, because I’m sure you haven’t been able to get a haircut or fill up your tank this summer without someone asking you when the trade’s coming or what’s going on, so where are we with that? Are you at all disappointed or frustrated that nothing has happened when you went into the summer pretty emphatically saying you wanted to get something done?
Joe Dumars: You know what? I’m not disappointed and I’m not frustrated. I’m never disappointed or frustrated when there’s nothing on the table to pull the trigger on a good deal. When there’s no good deal to be made, you can’t get frustrated and disappointed and force yourself to do something that’s not smart. I’ll reiterate what I said early on after the season was over. That we would be open to doing any deal but I’m not going to give players away and make a bad deal. I understand the way the world works now. I understand the way the media and fans hear and decipher what they want to. So when people ask me what about the big trade, my response is always the same: What big trade is that? What I said was I would go out and try to make a deal if there was one to be made, but don’t look for me to give anybody away. What was presented over the summer were deals that would have had us giving players away. That wasn’t going to happen. I said that during the press conference. I’m sure that got lost in translation. People hear what they want to.
KL: Do you think that maybe because you were so emphatic and public that other teams thought, he’s desperate and would take 50 cents on the dollar?
JD: That happens no matter what you say, whether you say anything or not. That’s the process of trade calls. You’re never going to get the first call where it’s a sweetheart deal and you feel, wow, we have to do this and you jump on it. It’s just the process. So I’m never worried about that aspect of it. That’s not how it works. It’s hard to explain, but that’s not how it works. The reason you see so few trades in this business is that both sides can’t get what they want out of the deal. When you do see a big trade, it’s news. There’s a reason for that. It has nothing to do with any kind of declaration you’ve made publicly. If that was the case, you’d see a lot more deals done. Most people try to be a little more coy about it and a little more secretive and still can’t get deals done.
KL: We’re a little more than a month out from when training camp will open. I know the Rip Hamilton-Jerry Stackhouse trade happened late, but are we getting kind of close to the window closing and you say we’re going to training camp with who we’ve got or are we already at that point?
JD: I think that I would be very surprised if anyone called at this point to offer the type of deal I was open to and had been open to doing. I don’t expect that call. So therefore, I expect us to go to war, if you will, with the guys we have on this roster we have right now, with the 14 guys we have now. And I say that just because I don’t expect to hear from anyone at this point about the size of the deal we were talking about doing.
KL:Michael Curry said about a week after he was hired that it was your call on the roster, but he would be perfectly happy if it came back just the way it was. He was kind of looking forward to working with those guys. Has the fact he said that and the fact you guys are of like mind and have had a whole summer to talk about it, has he influenced you at all to maybe not be so anxious to trade as you seemed to be in June?
JD: Once again, that’s not how it works. If there was a deal to be done, I would have pulled the trigger. The reason we haven’t done a deal is there was no good deal to be made. If there was a good deal to be made, we would have done it and we would be moving forward right now. Michael and I are of like mind. And the way we’re of like mind on this issue is I feel very comfortable going to battle with the guys we have coming back, just as he is. But that wasn’t going to stop me from pursuing to see if we could get better and make a deal. The way it works is, you work it and you work it and you work it and you grind away to try to make a deal. And when you can’t, you look at your team and you say this is not bad to go to war with right here. That’s basically how it worked over the course of the summer.
KL: I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this question, but I think it bears asking anyway. You’ve got to be really tough to make it to this level of basketball and to compete in six straight Eastern Conference finals, so I think you’re comfortable with the psyche of your team, but are you at all concerned that because you basically told these guys that we’ve gone to war with you the last three or four times and now haven’t gotten it done and I want to change the mix, that you’ve planted the seed with them that maybe he doesn’t think we’re good enough to get it done?
JD: That’s not how it works. Hey, listen, I love these questions, because I don’t mind answering the questions, because so often when you sit in this seat, you really have to deal with misinformation and lack of knowledge of how it works. You can go back and replay the press conference. “I’m open to moving anybody. There are no sacred cows. We haven’t gotten it done and I don’t like the way we’ve gone about our business. There wasn’t enough of a sense of urgency. I didn’t see desperation to win and if I can make a big deal, I will.” But in my conversations with Prince and Rasheed and Chauncey, I think those guys have made some public pronouncements of we want to try to come back and get it done. So I don’t worry about the psyche of the guys coming back, because they want to come back. They want to prove, Joe, we can get it done. So that’s not a bad position to be in. Now, the opposite of that is, if I said what I said during the early summer and the guys didn’t want to come back, then you would be concerned about it. But these guys have told you and they’ve told other people, we want to come back, we want to keep this together. They’re not saying that to come back if their psyche is not right. There have been other situations where things have come up and they’re like, you know what, they need to move me. And that’s not happened here. Because these guys understand that they’ve been supported here for a long time, big time. Whether we got it done and won championships and got to the Finals or not. And after five or six years, there’s some accountability to that. That’s all that’s happened. Myself, coaches, players, we hold ourselves to an incredibly high standard. We keep pressing. When a guy says he doesn’t want to be here, then that’s when it becomes an issue. But that’s not the case and those guys have said it publicly.
KL: What’s been the tenor of the conversations you have had with guys like Chauncey and Rip? Have they done any lobbying to stay?
JD: No, no lobbying to stay. I feel like I have such a unique relationship with all of those guys. They’ve been here for such a long time. When you have a relationship with people that’s built on truthfulness and honesty, you can have any conversation you want. That’s the relationship I have with these guys – truthfulness and honesty. I’ve had some absolutely great conversations with Rip, Rasheed, Chauncey, McDyess, with Prince before he left for the Olympics, obviously with all the young guys. Chauncey and I were on the phone a long time last night talking about different things. This has been a good summer from my perspective, because the complacency that I’ve taken issue with, the lack of urgency that I’ve taken issue with, has been front and center in a lot of conversations I’ve had with guys and it’s straightforward, no cute language, here’s the deal. It’s been a very good summer for me from that standpoint. There is no gray area about where we stand right now.
KL: What can those guys tell you, or beyond words even, what can they do to convince you that that won’t be an issue going forward?
JD: The only thing anyone can do at this point is talk to you about it. There’s nothing you can do in July or August from an actionable standpoint. The only thing you can look for at this time of year is taking responsibility and acknowledging. If you think there is an issue with something, the only way you can correct it is acknowledging it and take responsibility for it. I’m happy to sit here and say I’ve had conversations with all of these guys and no one – not one guy – has tried to shuck responsibility. Every single guy has stepped up and said you’re absolutely right. I understand when people are not privy to those conversations, you hear all kinds of wild theories about this and that. It is what it is. But every single guy understands the standards that we’ve set, we’ve not reached our goal. I have to say this, though, before people get too outlandish in their thoughts. I’m really, really, really proud of what these guys have done over the last six years and that can’t get lost. I’m disappointed we haven’t reached our ultimate goal, but I would sure hate for people to think that these guys haven’t been tremendously successful. What we’ve done here over the last six or seven years is unprecedented. I appreciate it and I’ve told that to each and every one of those guys. I appreciate the battles you’ve been in. But we didn’t get to where we ultimately wanted to get and that has to be disappointing for you, me and everybody else. But don’t ever think I don’t appreciate it. You guys have gone to war for years here now and you’ve battled and you’ve won and you’ve won divisions and you’ve been to the conference finals six years in a row and nobody else has done that. Don’t misunderstand how much I appreciate that. And I hope fans and media and everyone else around here appreciates it, because I do. It’s not lost on me. And too often it’s taken for granted. And that’s not right. Point blank, that’s not right.