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Timone 07-23-2008, 06:07 PM Safety Caleb Campbell will not be allowed to continue his career with the Lions because the Army has reconsidered its policy.
Campbell was drafted this year in the seventh round by the Lions out of West Point under a policy that would have allowed him to play pro sports while on active duty. But the Army has changed course.
Campbell participated in minicamp but will not be allowed to participate in training camp. He may apply for release from active duty in May 2010.
WTFchris 07-23-2008, 07:00 PM The Army is screwing Millen out of building his super bowl roster!
Jethro34 07-23-2008, 09:07 PM Can the Lions request an extra supplemental 7th rounder as compensation for the Army being douches?
MoTown 07-23-2008, 09:56 PM Not that it really matters to the Lions because they suck regardless, but that is horseshit for the kid. He makes the NFL, prepares himself to play in the upcoming season, and the Army fucks him over. That's bull.
If you make a decision, fucking stick with it. He's the only one it's affecting. It's not like 30 soldiers made NFL rosters this season.
Zekyl 07-23-2008, 11:33 PM they could have just rescinded the decision for future graduates.
Vinny 07-24-2008, 12:14 AM If the media makes enough noise I could see this being rescinded. At the same time, he was no lock to make even the Lions anyways, so it probably doesn't really matter.
Wizzle 07-24-2008, 08:18 AM would it be too much to ask of the Army to require all of the Lions to report
WTFchris 07-24-2008, 03:22 PM For those who are wondering, the Lions will get no compensation for using a seventh-round pick to draft Campbell. They will retain his rights until the 2009 draft.
Jethro34 07-24-2008, 11:26 PM What's the point in retaining his rights? He has a 2 year commitment, so unless we sign him to NOT be here, we essentially lose him altogether.
By the way, you hear what he's doing to serve his country? He's a graduate assistant coach for the school.
Are you kidding me?
Glenn 07-25-2008, 02:46 AM This whole thing is stupid.
Changing the rules on the fly is just screwing this guy (and the Lions) over.
He should be grandfathered in, at minimum.
Big Swami 07-27-2008, 04:18 PM Well, I gotta admit that I disagree with the prevailing opinion here.
This guy is a military school cadet. He has committed himself. Right now this country is at war and the military is being stretched badly. Does anyone really have a leg to stand on if they want to complain that this one healthy, athletic, unmarried guy should skate on his military commitment and play football?
Frankly, I think this was a dick move on Caleb Campbell's part. If you want to have a career playing ball, common sense would tell you "don't go to a military school." Lots of this guy's classmates are looking forward to a few years of cleaning sand and shrapnel out of their asses - I wonder what they think of him?
Glenn 07-27-2008, 04:52 PM If they value committment so much, why did they break theirs to a kid that was just following the rules?
Zekyl 07-28-2008, 08:21 AM Well, I gotta admit that I disagree with the prevailing opinion here.
This guy is a military school cadet. He has committed himself. Right now this country is at war and the military is being stretched badly. Does anyone really have a leg to stand on if they want to complain that this one healthy, athletic, unmarried guy should skate on his military commitment and play football?
Frankly, I think this was a dick move on Caleb Campbell's part. If you want to have a career playing ball, common sense would tell you "don't go to a military school." Lots of this guy's classmates are looking forward to a few years of cleaning sand and shrapnel out of their asses - I wonder what they think of him?
Campbell was supposed to be allowed to play pro football under an alternative service option for cadets with unique talents. That was part of the reason he stayed at West Point as a sophomore, when he could have left without penalty to play football at another school. He was supposed to play for the Lions while on active duty as a recruiter.
Glenn 07-28-2008, 08:24 AM ^That's what I was referring to in post #12
Zekyl 07-28-2008, 08:32 AM Yeah, the article said it affected a few baseball players as well. I don't understand why these guys couldn't be grandfathered in. I'm sure there's a reason, but its just too bad for all of them. They'd all moved on and started what they thought would be their life plan only to have the rug yanked out from under them.
Wizzle 08-06-2008, 03:58 PM LIFE OF REILLY
2nd Lt. Caleb Campbell is good enough for the NFL.
But that's not enough for the Army.
by Rick Reilly
There are times when a good man gets screwed and yet can't say a word, which leaves it for somebody else to stand on an orange crate and say, "Hey! This stinks!"
Such is the case with 2nd Lieutenant Caleb Campbell, U.S. Army.
2nd Lt. Campbell was a surprisingly fine safety for Army the past four years. So surprisingly fine that in April he was selected in the seventh round of the NFL draft by the Detroit Lions, the first West Point cadet taken in 11 years.
The Lions picked him because the Army assured the NFL it had a policy allowing cadets with "exceptional skills" to delay military service and go pro as a way of pumping up recruiting.
So the tiny town of Perryton, Texas, threw Campbell a big party in the church basement the day before he left for training camp since, not only was he the first local kid to go to West Point, he was the first one ever drafted. Campbell flew to Detroit and got his jersey (No. 47, in honor of All-Pro safety John Lynch) and a locker with his nameplate on it and his playbook. And in mid-July he got a room at a Dearborn Marriott, just like all the other rookies, and stayed up wondering what the NFL was all going to be like.
And then, the day before camp began, Lions GM Matt Millen called Campbell and his playbook into his office and told him it was all over. The Army was rescinding the policy. Campbell had to report immediately.Turns out the Army had no business having such a policy. Turns out the Department of Defense insists any service academy athlete who's drafted serve at least two years immediately after graduation, skills or no skills. And those two years can't be at Ford Field. Turns out that when the Navy and Air Force heard that Campbell was getting a special deal, they freaked. Navy's athletic director even called it a "significant" recruiting handicap. Funny, since it was the Navy that allowed former Midshipman Napoleon McCallum to play his rookie year with the L.A. Raiders while stationed at a Long Beach naval base.
2nd Lt. Campbell felt like he was hit in the nose with a shovel. Every day during his four years at West Point, he was reminded of and lived by the Cadet Honor Code: A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Instead the Army lied to 2nd Lt. Caleb Campbell. Now he gets to tolerate it.
First, he cried, but then he bucked up. He didn't file a lawsuit or punch a wall or ask questions you or I would've asked, such as, "The Army revised the policy on July 8. Why did it take until July 23, the night before camp started, to tell me?" Or, "Why can't I be grandfathered in, the way Army baseball players Nick Hill and Milan Dinga are being allowed to finish their season in the minor leagues?"
All Campbell did was throw his shoulders back and say, "I went to the academy to be a soldier."
But here's what stinks. Campbell did go to West Point to lead men into battle, but then he found out he was good enough to play on Sundays. At the end of his sophomore season, he could've transferred out, without penalty, to a big-time football college like Oklahoma or Michigan. But then head coach Bobby Ross told him about the Army's best-of-both-world's policy. Campbell stayed.
So the Army got two more years out of him, and all the boffo draft publicity—fans chanting "USA! USA!" at Radio City Music Hall—before it ran him full speed into a brick wall. "I never thought [my football career] would end this way," Campbell says. "I thought it would be a knee. Or I'd get cut. My dream was to play in the NFL. But my other dream was to be an officer in the greatest army in the world. Now I'm down to the best of one world, I guess. I'm a soldier and I'm going to see the task through."
And what task is that, you ask? Serving as an assistant coach for Army's football team this season, followed by reassignment, perhaps to Iraq or Afghanistan. Which brings up another question Campbell won't ask: "How is coaching football at West Point any more valuable to the war effort than playing it in Detroit?" What could be better for Army morale than 2nd Lt. Campbell starring in the NFL every Sunday and soldiers gathering around TV sets overseas, rooting their boots off for one of their own, secretly relieved he's on a team where losses don't go home in bags?
"Lt. Campbell is the kind of leader our soldiers deserve," an Army spokesman said.
The question is: Does the Army deserve 2nd Lt. Campbell?
Wizzle 09-02-2008, 01:06 PM Caleb Campbell, the seventh-round draft pick of the Detroit Lions, had his pro dreams squashed by the Army, but he'll be making a splash on ESPN's reality show about rookie life in the NFL.
Steelers.com, August 29: Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall will be one of five rookies featured on Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL, which will air on ESPN2 on Tuesday, Sept. 2 at 8 p.m. (ET). ... Other rookies who will be featured are Darren McFadden (Oakland Raiders), Glenn Dorsey (Kansas City Chiefs), Aqib Talib (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) and Caleb Campbell (Detroit Lions).
The show will be rebroadcast on Thursday, September 4 at 3:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2.
This should be interesting. I love behind the scene shows like this and "Hard Knocks".
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