Saw Dark Knight today..


Most dramatic comic to film movie since the first Richard Donner superman movie maybe the best(don't wanna go too far though). The movie reminded me why i consider Christopher Nolan to be one of the smartest directors out there. Great plot twists, action, and set ups.

Heath Ledger was nothing like Jack Nicholson and yet terrific. His element was similar to "Batman:The Killing Joke" Joker's persona. More vicious moments of dark methodical humor of well thought out plans only he could see with not as much crazy laughter(though there was plenty of it).

Great movie and it has knocked Iron Man and Wanted out of my top favorite of the year list and gives Spider-Man 2 a run for it's money.

Moved this to its own thread, since it probably deserves it.

I'm booked this weekend, but I think I'll check this out next weekend.

Did you get the Terminator trailer at your showing, Gutz?

No, got Watchmen though.

And "The day the earth stood still".

The Wathmen trailer got my attention so big i forgot what happened in the other trailers.

Oh yea that Russell Crowe/Dicaprio movie trailer directed by Ridley Scott.. Called Body of Lies.

Maybe it varies from theater to theater but i didn't get Terminator.

I've heard that the Christian Bale Terminator trailer is just awesome.

Just what I've heard through others, though.

That's crazy they have a trailer already for Terminator, Bale didn't even leave to start shooting at all until June 3rd, according to my moles (not affiliated with Glenn's moles).

By the way, if someone wants to start a similar thread to this one that contains spoilers (maybe you want to to talk about the story or the ending, or something) go for it.

That can wait to enough people have scene it, the great shit that happened in it isnt really something you blurt out to people who haven't seen it too.

Going to see it tonight. I was going to see it last night but a buddy had a rough day so we just got ahold of everyone we knew and got tanked instead.

the shit is a classic...all time classic.
it's easily the best comic book movie ever made, and it's easily one of the best movies ever made.

Amazing!

I haven't seen it yet but I'm hyped up for it. I do have one question though. With the broad outlines of the characters and what happens to them being so well known from the comics, are there actually "surprises" in this movie that could be spoiled?

Yes, since it's taking from multiple Batman mythologies in the comics and meshing them together. Also Nolan is adding his own Memento-esque plot development.

man this dont come out until augsut 7th in korea..fucking bs

man this dont come out until augsut 7th in korea..fucking bs

Do you think it'll suck as much as Iron Man?

I bet Jamal Crawford has already seen it, too.

Just saw it for the second time this weekend - great movie. It's one of those movies that you want to stand up and cheer for in certain moments, but you don't because that would be gay.

Just saw it for the second time this weekend - great movie. It's one of those movies that you want to stand up and cheer for in certain moments, but you don't because that would be gay.
I bet you the the Hoff would stand up and celebrate. You aren't worthy of his high character I see.

The Hoff would mount the Berlin wall and fucking sing praises.

Do you think it'll suck as much as Iron Man?

i dont know why but im itching to see this movie...got good reviews and the trailers enticing

Saw it at 12:01 opening night. Probably wont' do that again since it was filled with teens being idiots. They were cool during the movie though which probably saved their lives because I would have murdered.

Incredibly good. Both the writing and the acting were fantastic (and I'm pretty much talking about Ledger here, because its really his show). The movie really pays off.

Just a little additional publicity, I'm sure.


Report: 'Batman' accused of assaulting mom, sister

By RAPHAEL G. SATTER, Associated Press Writer
27 minutes ago

LONDON - Batman star Christian Bale was arrested Tuesday over allegations of assaulting his mother and sister, police and British media said.

British media had reported that Bale's mother and sister complained they were assaulted by the 34-year-old actor at the Dorchester Hotel in London on Sunday night, a day before the European premiere of his latest film, "The Dark Knight."

The women made the allegation at a local police station in southern England on Monday, Britain's Press Association news agency said.

Asked whether Bale had been arrested, a police spokesman did not refer to him by name but said: "A 34-year-old man attended a central London police station this morning by appointment and was arrested in connection with an allegation of assault." He said the man was still in custody but gave no further details.

The spokesman spoke on condition of anonymity because force policy did not authorize him to be identified. British police do not name suspects before they are formally charged.

U.S.-based representatives for Bale didn't immediately return messages seeking comment. Repeated phone calls to Bale's London representative went unanswered.

The Sun newspaper said police didn't question the actor Monday because they didn't want to interfere with the premiere of the movie.

Wales-born Bale first made a splash as the child star of Steven Spielberg's "Empire of the Sun" in 1987. His screen credits also include "American Psycho," "The Machinist" and "Batman Begins."

In "The Dark Knight," Bale reprises the role of wealthy playboy Bruce Wayne and his crime-fighting alter-ego Batman, a brooding vigilante superhero still scarred by the murder of his parents.

The film, which stars the late Heath Ledger as Batman's nemesis The Joker, took in a record $158.4 million at the box office in its opening weekend in the U.S. last week.

he is a method actor, so maybe he's not fully out of batman ass beating character.

Perhaps he got confused because he knew his parents were dead and he had no siblings?

kick ass movie.

i was sad that Heath Ledger won't be making anymore Joker appearances :(

Saw The Dark Knight. 5.5. For all the rave reviews it's been getting I didn't think it was all that. Better than Batman Begins, but no Batmal ala Michael Keaton. Why the hell does Batman talk like the singer of Deathklok? I mean really, Batman has always talked deep and low but that was just rediculous.

5.5? I watched the Michael Keaton Batman's and they just seem silly now.

To each his own, i think both Batman's were perfect for their time period. As a youth the Burton Batman's were wildly entertaining fun w/o much of a story.

As aan Adult the Nolan Batman's are much much more clever in their stories and a lil more serious in an almost realistic world of Batman Mythology(something closer to Batman Year 1 series).

As far as the over deepened voice by Bale. I find it hilariously entertaining and I can't help but blurt out "Where is He!!!" or "Do I look like a cop???!!" mimics of it for a personal chuckle. With that said, as corny as it is, it's probably more realistic since in other batman movies the voices were to close to Bruce wayne's voice. There's no chance of a thief telling this Batman "You know, you sound just like that Bruce Wayne guy, similar chin too)".

Is the countdown on for you to change your name back to Rorscarsch...um..Horshack...er..you know, that dude with the nylon on his face?

Lots of people grew up on Kevin Conroy and deep-voice Batman.

Heck, he even did the voice for the animated "Batman Begins" Batman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Gotham_Knight

This is what happens when Batman doesn't talk with the deep voice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/thekamisama/batblog002.jpg

I saw this and liked it.

I thought Tiny stole the show. jk

The forced deep voice thing was kind of distracting, but otherwsie it was well acted and well written, and I'm not usually a fan of these types of flicks.

I guess I got used to the deep voice - it was weird at first in Begins, but I saw that movie so many times that I must have just become impervious to it.

I guess Bale's voice would have sounded a little silly if he just stuck with the regular voice.

As good as this movie was, I think my favorite Bale movie is still Equilibrium.

Taking "loser" to a brand new level


Three Rivers police apprehend 'The Joker' at local cinema
Posted by Roberto Acosta | Kalamazoo Gazette July 28, 2008 10:25AM
Categories: Top Stories

THREE RIVERS -- An overzealous Joker fan was taken into custody Sunday morning after attempting to steal movie posters and other items, police said.

Spencer Taylor, 20, of Three Rivers, was arrested on felony larceny and malicious destruction of property charges after trying to steal memorabilia of the new Batman movie "The Dark Knight" at the Three Rivers 6 theater.

Taylor was dressed in a full costume and makeup resembling the "Joker" character from the movie.

He was trying to pull the posters off the walls and take other items when he was restrained by theater staff until police arrived, Three Rivers Detective Mike Mohney said.


http://blog.mlive.com/kzgazette/2008/07/medium_joker1.jpg
http://blog.mlive.com/kzgazette/2008/07/medium_joker2.jpg

fucking amazing movie. the joker was incredibly good and the plot was really good. fuck i could see this movie 5 more times and still be amazed

Not too bad considering that the same guy played both parts.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc

I'm growing old of everybody claiming Heath Ledger deserves an Academy Award for his role of the joker. For one, the outcry is only because he's dead, if he was alive, there wouldn't be nearly this much support. Second, although I thought he played the role well, I don't think it would've mattered who was the Joker, because, prior to this movie, the "Joker" doesn't have a specific demeanor that would suggest only Heath Ledger could've pulled it off. If Jim Carey was the Joker, everybody would've thought he did a great job too. SInce most people don't know what the role of "The Joker" is supposed to be, it makes Heath's performance less significant, IMO.

Great movie. Overhyped. Heath doesn't deserve an Academy Award.

Hater^

I'm growing old of everybody claiming Heath Ledger deserves an Academy Award for his role of the joker. For one, the outcry is only because he's dead, if he was alive, there wouldn't be nearly this much support. Second, although I thought he played the role well, I don't think it would've mattered who was the Joker, because, prior to this movie, the "Joker" doesn't have a specific demeanor that would suggest only Heath Ledger could've pulled it off. If Jim Carey was the Joker, everybody would've thought he did a great job too. SInce most people don't know what the role of "The Joker" is supposed to be, it makes Heath's performance less significant, IMO.

Great movie. Overhyped. Heath doesn't deserve an Academy Award.

One of the most idiotic posts I've ever read on this forum, and that is saying a lot...

Yeah, why the hell wasn't Jim Carrey's batman movie this good then?

He was the riddler, so it's not the same

each to his own i guess. i thought ironman was horrible.

just to make sure because i never read comic books when i was a kid, theres no sequel or anything right?

Yeah, why the hell wasn't Jim Carrey's batman movie this good then?
Please keep in mind two things:

1. That film was directed by Joel Schumacher, a flamer who gave us gratuitous butt cheek shots of Batman, nipples on his armor, and The Phantom of the Fuckin Opera. Though he's made some good films in the past (Phone Booth, Lost Boys), his gayness coupled with skin-tight superhero costumes on Chris O'Donnell, Val Kilmer, and Homonation pin-up king George Clooney was simply too much for him.

2. ...and produced by Tim Burton. Though he's had some excellent films (Big Fish, Nightmare Before Christmas), generally Burton's major weakness is storytelling. Those four Batmans (he directed two) were all over the place, relying more on mood and set pieces than strong narrative. A example of this would be Riddler's lair off the coast of Gotham.... built it pretty damn quick, didn't he? And I'm sure the U.S. Government was just fine with some weird power station off the coast of a major U.S. city. A similar situation in Batman, where Batman's super-awesome Batplane, complete with fghter jet cannons and computer-targeting gun sights, can't hit the Joker (Batman shouldn't have been shooting at him in the first place, and the look of disappointment on his face when he missed proves he was), but the Joker can pull out some clown gun and shoot the batplane down with one veeeerrry carefully aimed shot. And I'm sure it's okay for Alfred to simply walk Vicky Vale straight into the fuckin' Batcave after Bruce boinked her ONCE. If that's how it's going to be, I can't WAIT for the Poison Ivy re-do (Halle Berry killed Catwoman, so that character can stay gone, thank you very much).

Good call, Denny.


Also, another point for Wil:

The Joker isn't the same character in every comic. The only thing that is the same in each comic is that he's Batman's true nemisis and that's he's fucking crazy - he has no rhyme or reason for what he does.
Heath Ledger took his own take on the Joker after reading through many of the comics. He couldn't do a Jack Nicholson Joker, or he would have been ridiculed. He took the personality from many of the Jokers he read and turned it into one psycho criminal. All the mannerisms that he has in the film are created by himself. That's why critics are praising Ledger's performance, because it was a very original peace. Not many actors could have pulled that kind of creativity off.

I'm not saying Heath wasn't creative. I thought he did a great job. But does he seriously deserve an Academy Award??? Seems the only reason he's being promoted for such an award is because he's dead.

IMO, Heath Ledger did no better or no worse as the Joker, than Jim Carey did as "The Grinch" or Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka (as far as fictional characters)...and thus said, I would say none of those we're worthy of an AA.

I'm not saying Heath wasn't creative. I thought he did a great job. But does he seriously deserve an Academy Award??? Seems the only reason he's being promoted for such an award is because he's dead.

IMO, Heath Ledger did no better or no worse as the Joker, than Jim Carey did as "The Grinch" or Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka (as far as fictional characters)...and thus said, I would say none of those we're worthy of an AA.

Did you just say Ledger's Joker == Carey's Grinch??? lulz.

I'm getting tired of people talking about his death. It's a lame excuse for people who didn't like the movie as much as others/bought into the hype and were disappointed. He did an amazing job, whether he's dead or alive now.

Not saying he should win necessarily but a nomination is deserved here, I think.

Do we all really care that much about who wins movie awards?

I don't mean to suggest that you guys shouldn't debate whether or not someone deserves an award nomination or not, I'm just surprised that people actually care about that.

Do we all really care that much about who wins movie awards?

I don't mean to suggest that you guys shouldn't debate whether or not someone deserves an award nomination or not, I'm just surprised that people actually care about that.


I don't really care about movie awards, it just bothers me to see how dis-ingenuous (sp?) people are to be publically claiming Heath deserves it when the only reason they are doing so, is because he's dead...

whereas if he was still alive, nobody would even think of him as a nominee for such an award, let alone the winner...

nobody i know came out of that movie thinking that heath's performance was "mind-blowing" or "epic"...like i said before, he did a great job, but let's not get carried away...

Well, just my opinion, but I saw the flick as a skeptic and as someone who usually finds these movies ridiculous and I thought he was excellent, dead or alive.

I don't really care about movie awards, it just bothers me to see how dis-ingenuous (sp?) people are to be publically claiming Heath deserves it when the only reason they are doing so, is because he's dead...

whereas if he was still alive, nobody would even think of him as a nominee for such an award, let alone the winner...

nobody i know came out of that movie thinking that heath's performance was "mind-blowing" or "epic"...like i said before, he did a great job, but let's not get carried away...

Wow. Nonsense. So you're able to see inside these people's heads and you know that's what they're thinking? It's not possible that they just think he did an awesome job and would nominate him dead or alive?

Will his Oscar/Acad Award win be attributed more to his performance being the best of the year, or his untimely death? As morbid a question as that is, I think the answer may be even more so...

If he was still alive, Maggie Gylenhall wouldn't be going from guest interview to guest interview, campaigning for him to win...

It's all lubricious.

Lubricious....disingenuous....Bukdow????

i don't have an extensive vocabulary, but those word's can't possibly be that 'rare'...

^sort of a big deal around here

Your post is honestly the first time I've ever heard the word lubricious anywhere, and I do have a pretty decent vocabulary. As for Disingenuous, that's an old Bukky classic.

Will his Oscar/Acad Award win be attributed more to his performance being the best of the year, or his untimely death? As morbid a question as that is, I think the answer may be even more so...

If he was still alive, Maggie Gylenhall wouldn't be going from guest interview to guest interview, campaigning for him to win...

It's all lubricious.
Ok get off the dead thing, who had a better performance this year. His body of work has never looked like, sounded like or seemed like what he pulled off in Dark Knight. That's not his normal voice, not even close to it. You're being critical but haven't said much pertaining to the performance besides he's dead, which you seem to care about a lil' too much. Oh and you said Jim Carey could pull it off which was a bad route to take.

Did you just say Ledger's Joker == Carey's Grinch??? lulz.

I'm getting tired of people talking about his death. It's a lame excuse for people who didn't like the movie as much as others/bought into the hype and were disappointed. He did an amazing job, whether he's dead or alive now.

Not saying he should win necessarily but a nomination is deserved here, I think.
I agree pretty much with most of this.

Ok get off the dead thing, who had a better performance this year. His body of work has never looked like, sounded like or seemed like what he pulled off in Dark Knight. That's not his normal voice, not even close to it. You're being critical but haven't said much pertaining to the performance besides he's dead, which you seem to care about a lil' too much. Oh and you said Jim Carey could pull it off which was a bad route to take.



Compared to everyother movie Heath Ledger has done, he definitely overachieved in Dark Knight.

And I obviously misinterpreted the Carey thing. The Jim Carey thing was meant as an example, I didn't mean it as if Carey would've been better (which I couldn't say either way), I meant it as if it were him or say Johnny Depp playing that role, they would've had their own "uniqueness" playing that role that would've caused people to think it was 'one of a kind' (which people thought it was w/ Heath). The joker doesn't have a defined role (as far as demeanor, level of sanity, and the way he goes about himself), the average movie-goer (which is the majority) only knows him as Batman's villan, so no matter who played the role (assuming it was at least an actor of Ledger's status), it would've been accepted with open arms by the general public.

The whole Oscar/AcadAward hoopla is only being promoted because he's dead. Why isn't anybody publicly calling for Christian Bale to win the award?? He was afterall the lead role (and played it far better than Keaton, Clooney, Adam West and Val Kilmer)...and IMO, did just as good playing Batman, as Heath did playing the Joker...

Wan't to know why Christian Bale isn't getting any love?? Because he still has a pulse.

I know my opinion isn't popular, and it's probably a little insensitive, but that's how I view it.

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. What I have a problem is your trying to push your viewpoint and opinion onto everyone else. YOU may feel that Ledger's performance in and of itself is not Oscar-worthy, but for you to act as if anyone who thinks that it is Oscar-worthy is only saying so because he is dead is very egotistical, condescending and, quite frankly, insulting.

Your opinion of his performance is not somehow better than everyone elses, and it seems like you're rationalizing your disagreement over it's quality by saying that everyone else "only thinks so because he's dead".

Will his Oscar/Acad Award win be attributed more to his performance being the best of the year, or his untimely death? As morbid a question as that is, I think the answer may be even more so...

If he was still alive, Maggie Gylenhall wouldn't be going from guest interview to guest interview, campaigning for him to win...

It's all lubricious.

The only time this kinda shit happened was with On Golden Pond, where if Hepburn won, Fonda would have to win, too.

The buzz about Ledger's performance was insane even while he was still alive. Too bad he died, but there have been posthumous nominations before. This would be nothing new.

BTW, you're not that fool who dressed up like The Joker and started stealing shit from a moviehouse? If this is the case, your anger is misplaced, my friend. Psycho Fanboy Syndrome is self-inflicted..... and usually reserved for hot chicks -- so you'd be wrong at both ends.

I can say Carey wouldn't have done better. I think you're belittling a performance that you can't say for sure who would have pulled off to that degree.


The whole Oscar/AcadAward hoopla is only being promoted because he's dead.
and you keep saying that w/o providing something legit. alot of ifs and assumptions on other people's reasoning.


Wan't to know why Christian Bale isn't getting any love?? Because he still has a pulse.
He has gotten positive reviews for the most part too(even with the over rasp on his voice). Everyone has. But Ledger stood out. You'd be a blind man not to see that.



I know my opinion isn't popular, and it's probably a little insensitive, but that's how I view it.
Bleh, playing the insensitive card in a room full of people who be accused of insensitivity on countless subjects? Nothing insensitive about it, just kind of ignorant though in your reasoning. But you are definitely entitled to that.

The only time this kinda shit happened was with On Golden Pond, where if Hepburn won, Fonda would have to win, too.

The buzz about Ledger's performance was insane even while he was still alive. Too bad he died, but there have been posthumous nominations before. This would be nothing new.

BTW, you're not that fool who dressed up like The Joker and started stealing shit from a moviehouse? If this is the case, your anger is misplaced, my friend. Psycho Fanboy Syndrome is self-inflicted..... and usually reserved for hot chicks -- so you'd be wrong at both ends.
I'm completely surprised you let the term "lubricious" fly w/o injury.

What I have a problem is your trying to push your viewpoint and opinion onto everyone else.


Well, if that's how you interpret it, than so be it. I'm certainly not trying to push anything on anybody. That said, you can't deny the fact that there's no way to 'sugar-coat' it. The only reason he's getting Oscar pub is because he's dead. As heartless and tasteless as that sounds, you'd be in denial if you thought that wasn't true (see my Christian Bale example)

I don't have any bias/animosity towards Ledger as an actor, I just think you'd have to question the motive behind the Oscar (mainly the voters or those who decide winners), should he win it.


Whatever, I've said enough, I'll stop while I'm behind.

Congrats, Wil... you are now the NEW supporting character in Bukdow's Rume, starting 2 cartoons from now (one is already inked).

Bukdow was getting a little boring to draw and pen, but with YOU as his new neighbor (and fellow Mr. KnowItAll), creating episodes will be a snap.

I can't wait. Lubricious!!!!!!

Well, if that's how you interpret it, than so be it. I'm certainly not trying to push anything on anybody. That said, you can't deny the fact that there's no way to 'sugar-coat' it. The only reason he's getting Oscar pub is because he's dead. As heartless and tasteless as that sounds, you'd be in denial if you thought that wasn't true (see my Christian Bale example)

I don't have any bias/animosity towards Ledger as an actor, I just think you'd have to question the motive behind the Oscar (mainly the voters or those who decide winners), should he win it.


Whatever, I've said enough, I'll stop while I'm behind.

Push probably wasn't the right word, I didn't mean that you were trying to force us to agree with you.

You don't seem to grasp the concept that other people could have an opinion that differs from yours, and/or that that opinion could be just as valid, or even potentially more valid than your own.

Just because you don't think Ledger's performance was Oscar worthy in and of itself doesn't mean that many others can't believe that it was, regardless of his death.

Just because you don't think Ledger's performance was Oscar worthy in and of itself doesn't mean that many others can't believe that it was, regardless of his death.




Then answer this for me Vinny, why is there no public outcry for Christian Bale or Robert Downey Jr.??? Both of them were at the very least equally as impressive (if not, moreso) and they we're the headline actors of their films (which should've easily given them more popularity amongst critics, writers alike). It's easy to figure out why, just nobody want's to admit the real answer.

It's because one person's drug- or alcohol-fueled death makes them more iconic than they would have been otherwise.

If you really think that Heath's performance as the Joker was Oscar worthy, while also taking into consideration of all other possible candidates or nominees, than good, stick to your thought.

But for all the people (and I'm not trying to point fingers at you guys on here) but for all the people, and you know who they are, the college dipshits who create fifty facebook groups proclaiming an Oscar Nom. for Heath, without taking any consideration for other actors or other films. It's those morons who I have a problem with. Because those people are soley looking for Heath to win an Oscar as some sort of symbolic memorial, not because he truly deserved it.

And sadly, with his untimely death, there are more of those types of people than there are those who are going about their proclomations correctly, and Maggie Gylenhall (who was easily the most awkward character in the film BTW) is clearly guilty of that.

Perhaps I'm simply being misunderstood (judging by the defense all of you seem to be taking). I'm obviously having a hard time organizing my opinions on this into proper context, but hopefully, despite not agreeing, you catch what angle I'm coming from.

I can't wait. Lubricious!!!!!!

I don't care if I get put in a comic or not, but lubricious is an actual word. It means the same as being disingenous or devious.

Then answer this for me Vinny, why is there no public outcry for Christian Bale or Robert Downey Jr.??? Both of them were at the very least equally as impressive (if not, moreso) and they we're the headline actors of their films (which should've easily given them more popularity amongst critics, writers alike). It's easy to figure out why, just nobody want's to admit the real answer.

It's because one person's drug- or alcohol-fueled death makes them more iconic than they would have been otherwise.

If you really think that Heath's performance as the Joker was Oscar worthy, while also taking into consideration of all other possible candidates or nominees, than good, stick to your thought.

But for all the people (and I'm not trying to point fingers at you guys on here) but for all the people, and you know who they are, the college dipshits who create fifty facebook groups proclaiming an Oscar Nom. for Heath, without taking any consideration for other actors or other films. It's those morons who I have a problem with. Because those people are soley looking for Heath to win an Oscar as some sort of symbolic memorial, not because he truly deserved it.

And sadly, with his untimely death, there are more of those types of people than there are those who are going about their proclomations correctly, and Maggie Gylenhall (who was easily the most awkward character in the film BTW) is clearly guilty of that.

Perhaps I'm simply being misunderstood (judging by the defense all of you seem to be taking). I'm obviously having a hard time organizing my opinions on this into proper context, but hopefully, despite not agreeing, you catch what angle I'm coming from.

While Robert Downey Jr. was great, Iron Man was just a fun comic book movie. The Dark Knight took it to another level. It's not just a great comic book movie, but a terrific movie in general. It's made people take these movies seriously. Bale was good, but nothing spectacular.

It's called Best Supporting Actor. I'm pretty sure that's what he'd be up for. So I don't know why you keep bringing up Bale and other leading actors.

I don't care if I get put in a comic or not, but lubricious is an actual word. It means the same as being disingenous or devious.

Can SOMEBODY please make this quote their sig.

Then answer this for me Vinny, why is there no public outcry for Christian Bale or Robert Downey Jr.??? Both of them were at the very least equally as impressive (if not, moreso) and they we're the headline actors of their films (which should've easily given them more popularity amongst critics, writers alike). It's easy to figure out why, just nobody want's to admit the real answer.

When an actor, in a supporting role, steals the show then he gets buzz and acclaim.

Ledger owned that movie despite the film's title and main character, Bale, didn't.

You're denying the REAL answer as bequeathed to you by Fredo. And that is that you like his work because he's dead. As we all do because thats the only way you can like that performance. I mean if you think any performance was oscar worthy this year and Fredo doesn't, its obvious that you are wrong.

You know what, who cares? I doubt they have Oscars in hell anyway.

Given some of the shit that has gotten Oscar nominations and wins over the years, I'd be hard pressed to give the Academy very much weight. They exist so DVD-quality movies can leak to the torrents even sooner.

You know what, who cares? I doubt they have Oscars in hell anyway.
Which pretty much reflects some bitterness imo. None of us could care either way and Ledger especially couldn't. But you're the one hell bent on stopping his oscar because the support a dead man gets bothers you into accusing everyone of pissing on your day with Dead people Affirmative action for Ledger. lol

Ledger banged his girl.

Posthumously.

You know what, who cares? I doubt they have Oscars in hell anyway.

Well, Oscar Wilde WAS a fag....

Then answer this for me Vinny, why is there no public outcry for Christian Bale or Robert Downey Jr.??? Both of them were at the very least equally as impressive (if not, moreso) and they we're the headline actors of their films (which should've easily given them more popularity amongst critics, writers alike). It's easy to figure out why, just nobody want's to admit the real answer.

It's because one person's drug- or alcohol-fueled death makes them more iconic than they would have been otherwise.


Christian Bale? He served up another rock solid Bruce Wayne performance just like he did a couple years ago. Doing the same thing, well, second time around doesn't generate a lot of excitement.

Robert Downey Jr. has had a drug-fueled life. He's the last guy you want to tote out as getting upstaged by someone's OD death.

I put the odds of each successive Iron Man film at no better than 50/50 just because he might end up in rehab instead of on the set.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Downey and will see a movie just based on his name being in the credits but he wasn't exactly going against type in Iron Man. Tony Stark in that movie was just a richer, corporate version of the actor playing him.

The perception that a role involves breaking type for an actor or is somehow risky or edgy can factor heavily into an oscar nod. The joker is a much more demanding role than Tony Stark. Not the same thing as saying one actor is better than the other, but the roles don't have the same demands.

Its funny, but couldn't you describe his role in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang the same way.

Put down the knife, Wilfredo.


Ledger, ‘Button,’ ‘Nixon’ get Golden nods
‘Slumdog Millionare,’ ‘The Reader’ also among best drama nominees


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The late Heath Ledger received a nomination for best supporting actor for his role as the Joker in Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight."
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BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button” and “Frost/Nixon” led the Golden Globes on Thursday with five nominations each, among them best drama, while “Doubt” also has five, including four acting slots.

Other best-drama nominees: “The Reader,” “Revolutionary Road” and “Slumdog Millionaire.”

Meryl Streep had two nominations, best dramatic actress for “Doubt” and musical or comedy actress for “Mamma Mia!” Kate Winslet also had two, best dramatic actress for “Revolutionary Road” and supporting actress for “The Reader.”

Also chosen for dramatic actress were: Anne Hathaway, “Rachel Getting Married”; Angelina Jolie, “Changeling”; and Kristin Scott Thomas, “I’ve Loved You So Long.”

Nominees for dramatic actor were Leonardo DiCaprio, “Revolutionary Road”; Frank Langella, “Frost/Nixon”; Brad Pitt, “Benjamin Button”; Sean Penn, “Milk”; and Mickey Rourke, “The Wrestler.”

The year’s biggest hit, the Batman blockbuster, “The Dark Knight,” came in with strong awards buzz across the board but had only one nomination, supporting actor for Heath Ledger as the Joker.

“Heath was a friend of mine,” said actor Terrence Howard, a presenter at the nominations ceremony. “He gave his all in that film. I think he will win in that category. He’ll also get an Oscar.”

“Doubt” also scored supporting nominations for Philip Seymour Hoffman, Amy Adams and Viola Davis, plus a screenplay slot for director John Patrick Shanley, who adapted his Pulitzer Prize-winning play.

Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. were nominated as supporting actor for “Tropic Thunder.” Each played odd roles: Cruise hidden behind a bald cap, beard and fat suit, Downey playing a white actor who undergoes a skin-tinting procedure to play a black man.

The Harvey Milk film biography “Milk” also had been at the top of awards watchers’ lists but only grabbed an acting nomination for Penn.

One of the year’s biggest comedy hits, “Sex and the City,” was shut out completely.

While the hit “Mamma Mia!” was among best musical or comedy nominees, the category was dominated by smaller movies. The other contenders are “Burn After Reading,” “Happy-Go-Lucky,” “In Bruges” and “Vicky Cristina Barcelona.”

Clint Eastwood had two music nominations for his “Changeling” score and for co-writing the title song for “Gran Torino.” But he missed out on directing nominations for both films and for an acting slot in “Gran Torino,” in which he starred.

The animated hits “WALL-E” and “Bolt” had two nominations apiece, for best animated picture and best song, the “WALL-E” tune co-written by Peter Gabriel and the “Bolt” song co-written by Miley Cyrus, who also lent her voice to one of the film’s lead characters.

The song category was loaded with big names, including Bruce Springsteen for the title tune of “The Wrestler” and Beyonce Knowles for co-writing a song in “Cadillac Records.”

“Vicky Cristina Barcelona” earned a supporting-actress nomination for Penelope Cruz, and her co-stars Javier Bardem and Rebecca Hall each grabbed lead-acting slots in the musical or comedy categories.

Joining Hall and Streep in the musical or comedy actress lineup were Sally Hawkins for “Happy-Go-Lucky,” Frances McDormand for “Burn After Reading” and Emma Thompson for “Last Chance Harvey.”

Along with Bardem, “In Bruges” stars Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson both were nominated for best musical or comedy actor. Also chosen were James Franco for “Pineapple Express” and Dustin Hoffman for “Last Chance Harvey.”

How can Ledger be up for anything? There are no award shows in Hell.

How can Ledger be up for anything? There are no award shows in Hell.


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How can Ledger be up for anything? There are no award shows in Hell.
Sometimes, you're so low that you have to look up to look down.

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