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Glenn
06-26-2008, 08:07 PM
Special thanks to my colleague, Keith Langlois, for taking my question.


THURSDAY, June 26

Tracee (Detroit): Why is it all the trade talk is pointing to Billups? Do you think Joe Dumars would trade one of the most hard-working players in the NBA?

Langlois: No great mystery here, Tracee. Billups is the hot name right now because it’s been reported that Denver and the Pistons talked about a deal involving Carmelo Anthony. The Nuggets have a critical need at point guard. And Billups is a Denver native and still very much a big name. It doesn’t mean Joe D is necessarily looking to move Billups. But he is on record as saying he’s open to trading anyone. Rest assured that Dumars has had discussions with many other teams and Billups isn’t the primary object of desire for all of them. But point guard is a key position, a lot of teams are looking to better themselves at that spot, and the Pistons have a young player in Rodney Stuckey who will command 30-plus minutes a game next season.


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Jim (Indianapolis): Has Rip Hamilton ever gotten a Team USA invite? He’s got as many All-Star games as Chauncey and more than Prince. I think he’s one of the most underrated players in the league.

Langlois: Hamilton turned down an opportunity to be in the Team USA mix a few years ago. They were interested in him. He might have figured with Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade at his position, it was going to be tough to carve out a niche.


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Harrison (Bloomfield Hills, Mich.): I’ve heard rumors that Joe Dumars is going to deal Rasheed Wallace for New Jersey’s first-round pick in order to pick up Hibbert and someone else from the Nets. How do you think the Pistons and Nets would like that trade?

Langlois: That “someone else” would have to be someone making a lot of money, Harrison, because the salaries need to be fairly close to each other in order for two teams over the salary cap to pull off a trade. New Jersey is supposedly dangling Richard Jefferson in trade, so I guess it would be possible for him to be the key piece. But I haven’t heard anything about it. New Jersey has two first-rounders, 10 and 21. Hibbert could go somewhere around 20. Don’t know if the Pistons would consider him a good value at that spot or not. He looks like a career backup to me, but capable backup centers are very valuable chips in today’s NBA.


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Scott (Flint, Mich.): Correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember Phoenix being interested in a deal with the Pistons last year involving Amare Stoudemire. I think we should try and trade Rasheed for Amare along with some smaller contracts to make the deal work.

Langlois: It’s an intriguing idea, Scott. I don’t dismiss that one as pure fancy, either. The Shawn Marion-Shaq trade shows Phoenix is very aware of the biological clock ticking on Steve Nash. Wallace would be attractive to Phoenix on a number of levels. A tax team, the Suns would find his expiring contract appealing. His defensive presence and all-around versatility would make him an ideal complement to Shaq and Nash. He’s the perfect antidote to Phoenix’s No. 1 nemesis, Tim Duncan and San Antonio. The Suns would have to swallow hard to give up Stoudemire, who’s still just 25, but he does have a serious knee injury history and there has been some friction between player and management. The Pistons would have to throw something else into the deal to account for the vast age difference, but the basis for a deal exists.


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Mike (Birmingham, Ala.): I think the Pistons need a true center. What about a smaller trade that sends Wallace to New Jersey for DeSagana Diop? He’s young, a good all-around player and you’d give up less to get him.

Langlois: I like a return of Amare Stoudemire just a little more than DeSagana Diop, Mike, whaddya think? Diop is an unrestricted free agent who doesn’t figure to come entice anyone into giving him a mid-level exception contract despite the dearth of big men. He’s a serviceable backup, but no way the Pistons would give up Wallace to get him even if Diop wasn’t going to be available as a free agent for the taking.


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Mohamed (Canton, Mich.): What are the chances we could swap Hamilton and Prince for McGrady and a future pick? Stuckey starts with Billups and McGrady plays small forward. Would that work?

Langlois: I’d hate to give up those two players for McGrady, Mohamed. For as immensely talented as McGrady is, you’re giving up two extremely durable and talented players for someone with a pretty scary injury history. I think McGrady can be had, just not sure I’d go that high to get him.


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Kathy (Coldwater, Mich.): Who do you think will be available at the 29th pick that Joe Dumars might be interested in who would be able to help right away?

Langlois: In all likelihood, nobody – not right away, at least. The Pistons think they’ll have a good shot to land a player good enough to eventually crack their rotation, Kathy, maybe someone comparable to Arron Afflalo. But remember that the person they get this year will be coming to a deeper team – unless Joe D trades some of his depth to upgrade at a certain spot – than the one that Afflalo came to a year ago, and Afflalo will have a year’s head start. It’s tough to project without knowing what significant move Dumars pulls off, but as the roster stands now the biggest opportunity could come at backup small forward. In that case, Kansas State’s Bill Walker might have the best shot to contribute. But if the Pistons go with a young big man, it’s going to be hard for him to the see the floor next season.


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Jim (Jackson, Mich.): It seems to me the reason we haven’t returned to the Finals is the lack of an inside defensive presence that Ben Wallace brought night in and night out. What’s your opinion and who is out there that’s available?

Langlois: I think the Pistons’ defense has been, by and large, more than good enough. Offense has been more problematic in their playoff failures the last three postseasons. But there’s nobody out there available – at least not without paying a steep price – who can give them the things Big Ben gave them when he was playing at his peak.


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Sam (St. Louis): With the hiring of Darrell Walker and Harold Ellis, who do you see being Curry’s lead assistant? And what role do you see Harold fitting in?

Langlois: It could be Walker, but it might more likely be Dave Cowens as the lead assistant. That’s just my guess, at least. We’ll find out more about the staff later this week. But I like the composition – a nice mix of vets and young guys and all of them are teachers.


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Karen (Milwaukee, Wis.): The Suns want Tayshaun Prince. Can anything be worked out? Would either team do a Barbosa and No. 15 for Prince swap?

Langlois: It certainly would be a starting point for negotiations, Karen, but the Pistons would be left with a pretty imbalanced roster. They’d be loaded in the backcourt – Billups, Hamilton, Stuckey, Afflalo, Barbosa – and have nothing at small forward. (Jarvis Hayes is a free agent, remember, and probably not looked at as starting material in any case.)


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Vin (Canton, Mich.): Stephen A. Smith mentioned on ESPN that Rasheed has no intention of playing after his current contract expires. Have you heard anything about this? Does this make it more or less likely that he is dealt?

Langlois: Don’t know a thing about it, except to say that Rasheed loves basketball – maybe not all the trappings of the NBA, but the game itself – and it’s tough for anyone, no matter what else they have going on in life, to walk away from the game and its incredibly lavish rewards when they’re still capable of playing at a high level. In other words, I’ll believe that when I see it. As for its impact on his trade prospects, it would only affect the list of suitors, not their presence. Remember, the Pistons traded for him without having any guarantee he’d be with them for more than few months when they got him in February 2004.


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T.J. (Rochester Hills, Mich.): How do the Pistons like J.J. Hickson? Also, with questions about Batum’s heart problems, does he become a factor at No. 29?

Langlois: It would be a major upset if Hickson fell to 29. I would assume the Pistons would be very interested if he did. Batum had his condition checked out Monday and those reports are being heavily scrutinized by teams in the 20s. If he falls to 29, then you can assume at least a handful of teams were scared off – which, one can presume, would mean the Pistons would also have reason to be leery about his future. It would be almost as big an upset for Batum to be available to the Pistons that late as Hickson if his heart checks out OK.


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Seth (New Baltimore, Mich.): I’ve always been intrigued to see what Rip could do alongside Michael Redd. I’m aware that a recent article stated the Bucks are not looking to trade Redd, but I think enough money or maybe the right player (not Tayshaun!) would change their minds.

Langlois: I think Redd and Hamilton would make for an odd pairing, Seth. They both need players to get them the ball, not to mention the fact they both play the same position. One could swing to small forward, I suppose. I think Redd is eminently available. He’s a weapon, but he makes a ton of money. I think he’d be dynamite as a sidekick with someone like Chris Paul or LeBron James, guys who dominate the ball and cause defenses to collapse.


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Walt (Oak Park, Mich.): Do you think Isiah Thomas will coach, be in some team’s front office or an NBA commentator for one of the networks next season? Also, will Lindsey Hunter be playing, coaching or in the Pistons’ front office next season?

Langlois: There are no coaching vacancies in the NBA at present, Walt. I think Isiah is going to have to be rehabilitated before he gets another chance to be a coach or a GM after the disastrous run in New York, though somebody who believes in him might be willing to write that one off as the inevitable result of extreme organizational dysfunction. The Pistons are still waiting to hear if Hunter is indeed done with playing or wants to come back for one more season.


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Michael (Rochester, Mich.): What do you think about Rasheed Wallace for Emeka Okafor? He would bring the rebounding and defense we need.

Langlois: The main problem I’d have with that trade is deciding how much to commit to Okafor, a restricted free agent who turned down an average of $13 million before last season. He hasn’t been that type of player to date, but if you’re going to trade for him you’d have to be willing to part with that kind of money and hope he grows into it – and stays healthy. He’s been a little brittle so far, too.

Glenn
06-26-2008, 08:07 PM
Part 2




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Frankie (Farmington Hills, Mich.): Just because the Carmelo deal seems to be put on hold doesn’t mean it won’t happen, right? Look at the Garnett trade. That fell through two or three times before it eventually worked.

Langlois: In fact, it would have been extremely unusual for a trade of that magnitude to get done before the draft, Frankie. I don’t know if that particular trade will be revisited or not, but I never expected Joe Dumars to pull off a big trade prior to draft night – and, even more likely, sometime in July as free agency takes shape.


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Jerry (Macomb, Mich.): The day the Pistons trade team players for a so-called superstar is the day I’m done spending my family’s hard-earned cash on Pistons gear and tickets. If they want to give more offensive burden to a player, look to our own team. Rip shoots a high percentage. I’d hate to see the team sacrifice effort on defense to score a few more points. I don’t want to see the Pistons turn in to the Lakers or Cleveland or any other team that stands around and watches one guy play offense.

Langlois: I respectfully suggest Joe Dumars should have earned enough public trust by now that Pistons fans would expect any move he’d make would be done with the best interest of the team foremost in mind. He’s not looking to stray from his blueprint for success, but he’s watched the Pistons lose three straight years in the conference finals to hungrier teams, in his view, and he’s looking to alter the mix to change the level of urgency. I think he’d like to find in one package someone who would both alter the chemistry and give the Pistons an impact scorer who can carry them through the droughts that seem to grip them with increasing frequency.


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Paul (Essexville, Mich.): Chad Ford of ESPN.com apparently has Portland looking to unload two or more of its four picks in order to move up in the first round. What about sending 29 and 59 for Portland’s 33, 36 and 55 so we could get two guys of first-round caliber for second-round money?

Langlois: I don’t see any advantage to Portland in that deal. I think Ford is intimating that Portland would like to package its picks to move up from its lottery spot at 13. Moving up from 33 to 29 isn’t going to yield the type of player Portland is seeking.


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Dez (Melbourne, Australia): Do draft picks need to be involved in order to do a draft-day trade?

Langlois: Nope. But they almost always are because it’s the currency that matters most on that particular day.


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James (Plano, Texas): I’m thinking a good performance for Team USA could get us a lot back in exchange for Prince. Also, if you’re trying to keep up with the latest news, what is the best Web site?

Langlois: Prince being a part of Team USA sure can’t hurt his trade value, James. But basketball people already have a pretty good handle on him. Everybody realizes how valuable he can be because his versatility makes him a good fit with almost everybody. The potential value in making Team USA rests in the marketing value other organizations might project. In other words, some team’s financial guys might twist the arms of their basketball guys to go the extra mile to bring in somebody they can tout as an Olympian – and it wouldn’t hurt if he came with a gold medal, too.


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Eli (St. Catharines, Ontario): Do you think Chauncey has lost a step? Should the Pistons cash in on him while he still has market value? Also, I might be in the minority on this, but I’d like to see Tayshaun packaged in a trade and shipped out.

Langlois: If he lost anything last season, it was lost on me, Eli. I think anybody seeing signs of slippage in Billups are seeing what they want to see because they think a point guard over 30 should be slipping. Chauncey’s strength and shooting stroke are going to allow him to age gracefully. His contract has three guaranteed years left. I think he’ll be a highly productive player for all of that time, at least.


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Joe (Grand Rapids, Mich.): I think Eric Gordon might be the best player in this year’s draft. Many have him going to the Clippers at No. 7. Would Joe Dumars consider Tayshaun Prince, Chauncey Billups and Arron Afflalo to the Clips for Tim Thomas, the No. 7 pick and Corey Maggette (sign and trade)?

Langlois: The timing would make that impossible to do until after the draft, Joe. Maggette, assuming he opts out, can’t be dealt until July. If Maggette opts out, as he is expected to do, he can sign with anybody. You’d have to like Gordon an awful lot to do that trade. Not a big fan of Thomas and Maggette blows hot and cold.


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Hillary (Wixom, Mich.): If the Pistons do make a deal for McGrady, would Dumars have to give up Rip? And would that mean Chauncey would stay?

Langlois: My hunch is Houston would be more interested in acquiring Billups because of the Rockets’ longstanding problems at point guard. But that’s just speculation. The Pistons wouldn’t trade both of them, for sure.


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Nawaf (Calgary, Alberta): Do you think the mid-level exception will be enough to get James Posey? How about Jason Maxiell – is he ready to start?

Langlois: Posey sure won’t get more than the MLE as a starting salary, Nawaf, and he’s not going to get a long contract. But his value to a contending team was pretty evident in the playoffs. He was a huge factor in the Finals. I could see somebody giving him something like $12 million over three years.


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Ryan (Nashville, Tenn.): what about trading Billups and Amir Johnson to Miami for the No. 2 pick and taking Michael Beasley?

Langlois: The Pistons would have to take back at least $10 million or so in salary. I don’t see a way that works.


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Aaron (New York City): Who do you think the Pistons will draft in the first round and can they draft J.R. Giddens out of Kansas in the second round? That guy is a beast.

Langlois: I don’t know who they’re taking at 29 because there’s no way to project with confidence who’s going ahead of them. I think they have a list of four or five guys and hope one of them falls that far, then another list of four or five that they’d take if the first list is exhausted. Giddens – who left Kansas for New Mexico a few years ago, by the way – would be a very high consideration at 59. He’s a first-round talent according to most and also seems to have matured after some bad choices earlier in his college career.


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Glenn (Grand Rapids, Mich.): I just heard Theo Ratliff is planning on returning this year and that Joe is amenable to it. Is there any truth to this? Also, is there any chance we can talk Chris Webber into coming back even at the vet’s minimum?

Langlois: I haven’t heard Ratliff has decided to play another year, but Joe D is more than likely to welcome him back. But that’s probably the type of decision that doesn’t get made until the other pieces of the roster are put in place – the draft, free agency and whatever trades Dumars executes. As for the Webber thing … that ship has sailed. His aborted comeback with Golden State last year seemed to convince everyone, Webber included, that his knees just can’t hold up any longer.


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Ryan (Madison, Wis.): Hypothetically speaking, do you think taking Carmelo Anthony in 2003 would have benefited the Pistons more in the long run than picking up Stuckey in last year’s draft via the Darko trade?

Langlois: Ryan, the mere fact that question can be put on the table is pretty remarkable, don’t you think. Anthony is one of the four or five most unstoppable scorers in the league and he’s only 24. That Stuckey has people thinking he could be equally valuable someday is amazing, given that the Pistons got him in the middle of the first round.


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Austin (Medina, Ohio): What do you think of trading Rasheed Wallace and Arron Afflalo for Jermaine O’Neal and Indiana’s 11th pick?

Langlois: I would need ironclad assurance that O’Neal has no long-term debilitating physical issues to even consider that deal, Austin – never mind that it’s undoable in that form because O’Neal makes 50 percent more than Wallace. I have no doubt Indiana would do that deal in a nanosecond to get out from under the $44 million O’Neal has coming over the next two seasons. They’d save themselves $30 million and get a player in Afflalo who could be every bit as valuable as what they stand to pick up at 11 in this very uncertain draft. In the past four years, Wallace has played 105 more games than O’Neal, who has missed an average of 27 games per season – essentially, one-third of a season each year – over that span. Wallace, on the other hand, has averaged missing four games a season – some when the Pistons sat him out late in the season, a few for technicals-related suspension.


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Madison (London): A trade of Amare Stoudemire for Rasheed Wallace and Jarvis Hayes has tremendous upside for both teams. Drafting Nathan Jawai at No. 29 makes more sense than taking Alexis Ajinca. Jawai is strong, athletic and passionate with an NBA-ready body and exceptional potential. What are your thoughts?

Langlois: The Pistons can’t trade Hayes. He’s due to become an unrestricted free agent. All I know about Jawai is what I’ve read – strong, raw, could develop a game somewhat similar to Elton Brand. Tony Ronzone, the Pistons’ international scouting guru, attended Jawai’s workout for a handful of NBA teams in New York on Tuesday. He’s slotted to go anywhere from the late first round on – which describes a lot of guys.


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Donnie (Toledo, Ohio): Do you think Joe D will be looking to make a serious deal on draft day or be more inclined to wait longer to see what comes his way?

Langlois: I think he’s inclined to make a serious deal whenever one comes along to his liking, Donnie. That could be on draft day – last year three big names were sent packing on draft day. It’s a day teams are inclined to make deals, as I wrote about in my blog the other day. Different factors are in play on draft day than will be in play after July 1, so it all depends on what fits the needs of trade partners.


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Max (New York City): Did Rodney Stuckey break any records for number of free throws made consecutively to begin a postseason career?

Langlois: According to the experts at STATS, no. They said they don’t think the record has ever been officially kept, but going back to the start of the 2002-03 season, Kevin Martin has an active streak of 29 straight. Stuckey is next at 27, followed by Brandon Bass at 21, Bostjan Nachbar at 20 and Jason Terry at 17.


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Jerry (Walled Lake, Mich.): What do you think about a trade of Billups and Prince for Elton Brand and the No. 7 pick from the Clippers?

Langlois: An Achilles tendon tear in a man of Brand’s bulk would worry me, Jerry. I’d need to run that past the medical experts. Other than that, it’s something to consider, for sure. I’m projecting Eric Gordon to the Clips at No. 7 – a combo guard with many of Billups’ qualities, though a long way from certain that he’ll ever be of that stature. It’s a trade with a lot more risk in it for the Pistons. I’d think the Clippers would be all over it.


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Joe (Warren, Mich.): When can I expect to see Amir Johnson’s playing time go up? I think he’s going to turn into a great defensive player. I would have even used him in the conference finals to guard Paul Pierce at times.

Langlois: Michael Curry told me two weeks ago that the coaches need to give Amir consistent minutes next season. He can be an impact defender, Joe, but he’s not currently equipped to guard someone as clever off the dribble as Pierce, and probably won’t ever be suited to chasing small forwards on the perimeter. Keep his close to the basket where his ability to block shots with both hands can be best utilized.


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Bryan (Remus, Mich.): A couple of rules questions. Say there’s a few seconds left and a player inbounding the ball shoots from the sideline and makes it. Would it count? If a player gets fouled while shooting, does it count as a missed shot? And if someone could dunk without leaving his feet, would that be an offensive goaltend?

Langlois: No, no and no.

UxKa
06-26-2008, 08:22 PM
LOL. If you took my suggestion of a spek feature on the forum a while back, I would spek you for that.

Vinny
06-26-2008, 09:20 PM
LMAO.

I had always assumed that Keith just made up all the questions so that they would fit his fluff.

Hermy
06-26-2008, 09:23 PM
I had one answered before the year started.

MoTown
06-27-2008, 10:28 AM
Seriously, Glenn?

Glenn
06-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Seriously, Glenn?

What do you think?

MoTown
06-27-2008, 10:31 AM
Perfect question to the perfect analyst.

Glenn
06-27-2008, 02:51 PM
I can't wait to read Keith on Monday, he's going to be in full-on damage control.

I think I'll lob a few more CWebb questions at him.