Per ESPN.

Also includes the 14th pick, FWIW.

yeah that had been discussed for a while. i can't really see o'neal and bosh working well together. their games are too similar IMO. should be interesting to see how it works out.

boy it seems like there's a lot of trades potentially in the works. this is done (apparently) the blazers traded with new orleans for the #27, charlotte traded the #20 to denver, and there's all kinds of talk of other deals.

can't wait to see what actually transpires in the next 24 hours.

BTW- it's actually the 17th pick, not the 14th.

Also includes the 17th pick, FWIW.

That was some serious dumping by Indy. Another injury prone PG? And RASHO??!!!


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Well, can't say there's a lack of talent on Toronto's frontcourt. I'm not sure how Bosh responds to this. He's a less selfish player, and I doubt JO passes it once he gets the ball in the post.

bosh wants to win and i doubt he cares who he shares with. T-Dot got severely better if JO stays healthy.

Just so y'all know, Toronto is my second favorite team. ;)

Rasho is a perfect Pacer.

Also, maybe we can get Bosh now and realign the planets.

TJ is going to do well in Indy, to Fool's dismay.

Rasho is a perfect Pacer.

Also, maybe we can get Bosh now and realign the planets.

TJ is going to do well in Indy, to Fool's dismay.
1.) Unless toronto got KG, you're smoking supreme angel dust even speaking of the fantastic notion of Bosh leaving T.Dot.

2.) TJ Ford will like Jamal Tinsley play great when he's healthy. vanish when he falls on his spine again.

To my dismay? I like TJ Ford. I don't like him more than Rip, like you do however.

I love this trade for Toronto. Somewhere Pharaoh is supremely happy right now.

To my dismay? I like TJ Ford. I don't like him more than Rip, like you do however.

With Rip's contract uncertainty, I like the idea of Ford, #17 and more for Rip, so sue me.

#17 could be packaged with #29 and could possibly get us in the top 10.

Ford + a lottery pick sounds pretty good to me.

So Rip resigning with the team that got him a championship and gave him the role to be a multiple all-star is too questionable not to trade the guy away but trading the #17 and the second to last pick in the first round for a lottery pick is certain enough to mortgage your present and future on it.

JUST STOP ALREADY DANZIG.

I'm not saying anything is certain, so stop twisting my words again and again.

As far as Rip goes, if you think there is zero chance that he leaves, then we'll just have to disgaree.

If another team offers him a ridiculous contract with an opportunity to be "the man" then he might leave. Joe needs to consider that. Only Joe knows how much the Pistons will be willing to pay for Rip, and maybe even he doesn't, so please stop pretending that you do.

You don't stop at "considering", you want the guy to make trades based on assuming it is a definate. I'm not twisting your words. You want the #17 so you can trade it with the 2nd to last pick in the 1st round for a lotto pick to replace a guy who isn't gone and hasn't mentioned leaving. I don't need to twist that to make it sound ridiculous. It already is ridiculous.

I think the only thing that makes Glenn happy is overhaul and an undersized group of midgets(TJ at the PG, Stuck at SG, and Earl Watson at SF) running the courts as we get torched into the next dimension ever game.

You don't stop at "considering", you want the guy to make trades based on assuming it is a definate. I'm not twisting your words. You want the #17 so you can trade it with the 2nd to last pick in the draft for a lotto pick to replace a guy who isn't gone and hasn't mentioned leaving. I don't need to twist that to make it sound ridiculous. It already is ridiculous.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I come back and Fool is still layin' the smackdown on Danzig. Danzig, you straight trippin' homie.


I'm contributing nothing, as usual... I'll be going now.

I'm intentionally couching everything that I say here with "could" "possibly", etc.

I'm not saying that I endorse all of these things, only that they are "possible".

If I'm in favor of it, I will state so, clearly.

You don't need to interpret or try to read anything into my words.

The whole exercise for me is trying to think through the decisions that Joe has to make. I don't have an agenda. If you don't enjoy the exercise of thinking through all of the possibilities/potential outcomes, then I can see the rub.

You are couching all your arguments but there's no need to interpret or read into them?

Make sense.

Just exploring the possibilites, my good man.

If you think it's a lock that Rip re-signs, then good, I like Rip too.

You don't. You hate everything. You've got a whole thread devoted to all that you hate.


LOL

Fool is still undefeated... must be a member of the North Side Kings.

I think the only thing that makes Glenn happy is overhaul and an undersized group of midgets(TJ at the PG, Stuck at SG, and Earl Watson at SF) running the courts as we get torched into the next dimension ever game.
Max at PF, McDyess at C. I think that pretty much fills out the starting rotation for you.

B. Colangelo is saying that this isn't a done deal and that they (TOR) are involved in "4 or 5 deals" right now.

Ford also has BYC status until Tuesday.

On the eve of the NBA draft, the Toronto Raptors and Indiana Pacers finally agreed to a trade.

Sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that the Pacers and the Raptors have agreed to a deal that, pending review of medical information, would send Jermaine O'Neal to Toronto in exchange for T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic and the No. 17 pick in Thursday's NBA draft.

ESPN.com has also learned that the Raptors will get the 41st pick from the Pacers as part of the deal while the Pacers will receive Raptors forward Maceo Baston to complete the deal.

Ford's contract makes him a "base-year compensation" player, meaning the trade cannot be completed until July 9.

:hollinger:


From then until July 9, the league has a moratorium on trades and signings. Given all that, the trade won't be official for a fortnight.

Instead, this will be the trade that everybody knows about but nobody acknowledges publicly. There will be no announcements or news conferences and it might mess with some summer-league plans. But the teams are exchanging medical information, and right now everything appears to be a go.

By the way, this delay also means there are still two weeks for other teams to get in on this trade and make it more than a two-way deal.

That's ridiculous! Maceo Baston is still in the league???

I KNOW, RIGHT? (another phrase used by frat boys)

Who's Maceo Baston?

Also, Go Raptors!

And Pistons!

Who's Maceo Baston?




$1,976,400

He played with Mo Taylor for Michigan.

JO speaks


O’Neal confirmed the trade Thursday, saying he was pleased with the move by team president Larry Bird.

“He wanted to get me to a place where I could contend and do what I’m capable of doing,” O’Neal told The Associated Press. “We both agreed that the timing was perfect. His focus on getting them (the Pacers) to a level where they can grow and start to be competitive was tremendous.”

Pacers spokesman David Benner said he could not confirm the trade.

“We’re stuck in our role here, the players can say whatever they want, we can’t say anything,” Benner said.