Sheed, Chauncey, Dice for AI, Camby, Kleiza works

or Sheed, Dice for Camby, Nene

whatever i think Denver might be a good dancing partner

i dont want to get older, although it desperately solves our rebounding problems. cambys getting older and bound to get injured soon

Sheed, Chauncey, Dice for AI, Camby, Kleiza works

or Sheed, Dice for Camby, Nene

whatever i think Denver might be a good dancing partner

Yuck. I want a center with post moves, this doesn't get us one. Also I don't see how AI and Stuckey would work together either.

And I also agree about getting older being bad.

Not a fan of adding AI at this time given our team concept of long armed, agile defenders. I am more in favor of getting Camby over sheed given that the rest of our current roster largely consists of jump shooters, and a offensive rebounder like him who doesn't drift out to the three point line would be welcome.

As for age, Sheed and Camby are the same age. It's not the best addition, but if we ever do get a posting PF, then Camby is a nice complement.

Damnit, just think of what could've been if we just signed Tyson Chandler after Benjamin left.

All of our rebounding issues would be solved, and we'd have won at least one more title (either last year or this year)...

But instead we panicked and signed Nazy...I need to stop thinking about the past, it's not doing me any good...

Damnit, just think of what could've been if we just signed Tyson Chandler after Benjamin left.

All of our rebounding issues would be solved, and we'd have won at least one more title (either last year or this year)...

But instead we panicked and signed Nazy...I need to stop thinking about the past, it's not doing me any good...


Explain how we sign a guy with a contract?

The Bulls re-signed Chandler to a 6 year deal in 05. The Bulls signed Ben in 06. They traded Chandler to the Hornets for JR Smith and PJ Brown after signing Ben.

I'm confused at when we could have signed him myself.

The Bulls re-signed Chandler to a 6 year deal in 05. The Bulls signed Ben in 06. They traded Chandler to the Hornets for JR Smith and PJ Brown after signing Ben.

I'm confused at when we could have signed him myself.


Stop thinking about the past Chris.

Sorry. I know, lets trade Max and #29 for Dwight Howard and #22!

we could've gotten Tyson the same way NO did...they gave up JR smith and somebody else, Bulls wanted to get rid of him once they signed Ben

we could've gotten Tyson the same way NO did...they gave up JR smith and somebody else, Bulls wanted to get rid of him once they signed Ben


someone else's name was PJ brown, and he was an 8 mil expiring deal.

We could have sign and traded Ben, maybe, but is that really realistic within the division? I don't think Pax or Joe would have done that.

and who was JR smith (on our team)? I doubt they wanted Delfino, who scored 3.6 points per game. Smith scored 10 points a game. Our expiring deal was Cato (who did nothing here). PJ put up 11 points and 9 rebounds a game.

ok assholes, you made your point...


fuck the Tyson thing, it seemed feasible for me at the time...

and who was JR smith (on our team)? I doubt they wanted Delfino, who scored 3.6 points per game. Smith scored 10 points a game.
FWIW, they weren't high on JR. They moved him for two 2nd rounders before he ever suited up. Coincidentally, the same package we got for Delfino.


Our expiring deal was Cato (who did nothing here). PJ put up 11 points and 9 rebounds a game. Cato wasn't expiring. He was already expired. I think more of the hope from Detroit fans/media was that it would be a sign and trade. So, Chicago wouldn't have to take back any contracts at all (which I think they would have preferred)

That said, there was no chance Chicago was going to give their biggest competition a guy like Chandler who at one time played well enough with them to "earn" a big-ass contract like his. Would have been nice though.

FWIW, they weren't high on JR. They moved him for two 2nd rounders before he ever suited up. Coincidentally, the same package we got for Delfino.



I thought we only got one 2nd for Wussfino?

Nope, 2nd rounder in 2009 and 2011.

White we're on the subject, I'm not all that high on Chandler. He is great at rebounding and catching lobs. Doesn't block that many shots, doesn't D the pick and roll all that well from what I've seen. Not sure he'd be what he is there if he came here.

re: Melo to the Pistons rumor

Tay & Sheed for Melo & Camby works, salary wise, after July 1

I hate Melo with a passion, but

Billups/Stuckey
Rip/Stuckey/Afflalo
Melo/Valter
Dice/Max/Amir
Camby/Samb

is pretty nice, especially if you throw in #29 and a MLE player

re: Melo to the Pistons rumor

Tay & Sheed for Melo & Camby works, salary wise, after July 1

Nene works in place of Camby, too

Nene works in place of Camby, too


I'd rather have Camby, but that lineup you posted...

Stuckey, Rip, Melo, Dyess, Camby....that's not bad...pray Brandon Rush falls down to 29 so we can add him to guard bigger fowards (Bron, Pierce)...use the MLE on Josh Childress or James Posey

I'd rather have Camby, but that lineup you posted...

Stuckey, Rip, Melo, Dyess, Camby....that's not bad...pray Brandon Rush falls down to 29 so we can add him to guard bigger fowards (Bron, Pierce)...use the MLE on Josh Childress or James Posey

Where'd Chauncey go?

Where'd Chauncey go?


he'd be dealt to Denver for Melo


Tay & chauncey for Camby & Melo...was what glenn put up there

No, it was Tay and Sheed, you epic fucktard.

he'd be dealt to Denver for Melo


Tay & chauncey for Camby & Melo...was what glenn put up there

Then where'd Sheed go?

whatever, im confusing this with the article kstat posted on the legit trade rumors thread

if we can somehow get Melo, while keeping Stuckey, i'd be very happy.

btw, did anyone else hear McCosky patronize Stony on WDFN when Stony proposed a Camby deal? "You really think Camby is a good defensive player? Really? Really? Because he stands in the middle and blocks shots? Really??" Classic.

if we can somehow get Melo, while keeping Stuckey, i'd be very happy.

btw, did anyone else hear McCosky patronize Stony on WDFN when Stony proposed a Camby deal? "You really think Camby is a good defensive player? Really? Really? Because he stands in the middle and blocks shots? Really??" Classic.


Yeah I heard that interview, that was the AI, Camby, and Kleiza deal...I kind of agree with Chris on the fact that Camby isn't as great of a defensive player as he's made out to be...

When the labeled "best defensive player" plays on the worst defensive team, things don't add up right you know...?

I love Linas Kleiza though. He's in my "fave five" Big 12 Alumns version.

'Melo to the Pistons trade rumor was just discussed on PTI.

The more I think of it, the more I like it. It's just that....why not 4 years ago? We could've got him without losing anyone and who knows what would've happened after that.

Oh well, I'd still take him for Chauncey and Tay. I just don't know why Denver would want a Billups/Iverson backcourt.

It's just that....why not 4 years ago? We could've got him without losing anyone and who knows what would've happened after that.
.

c'mon, still?

c'mon, still?

yeah....

Couldn't have gotten him without losing Stuckey.

if we drafted carmelo, we wouldn't have gotten sheed, and therefore we would've been a 2nd round exit in the playoffs...

i'd rather have the 1 championship, than melo...who i don't even think has been out of the 1st round...(don't quote me on that)

i'd rather have the 1 championship, than melo...who i don't even think has been out of the 1st round...(don't quote me on that)

2003-04: 1st Round, L 4-1 to Minnesota
2004-05: 1st Round, L 4-1 to San Antonio
2005-06: 1st Round, L 4-1 to Los Angeles (Clippers)
2006-07: 1st Round, L 4-1 to San Antonio
2007-08: 1st Round, L 4-0 to Los Angeles

2003-04: 1st Round, L 4-1 to Minnesota
2004-05: 1st Round, L 4-1 to San Antonio
2005-06: 1st Round, L 4-1 to Los Angeles (Clippers)
2006-07: 1st Round, L 4-1 to San Antonio
2007-08: 1st Round, L 4-0 to Los Angeles


and there ya go...thanks for the verification SDB

Any time.

if we drafted carmelo, we wouldn't have gotten sheed, and therefore we would've been a 2nd round exit in the playoffs...



Is this a joke?

So he's managed to win 4 playoff games in 5 years? That's pretty sad. I'm betting Tmac has had more success than that with less talent around him (another guy that's done jack squat in the playoffs)

det/glennver

Fixed.