pretty mad about the loss and see things becoming serious for our core

det trades:
billups
amir

Phx trades:
Amare
Raja

Phx becomes

Nash/Barbosa
Billups/Barbosa
Hill/Tucker
Diaw/Amir
Shaq/SKinner

I guess they need to make some adjustments via trade/draft or whatever. Dont really see why Phx would do this.

Det becomes

Stuckey/#29?
Rip/Raja
Prince/Aaron
Amare/max
Sheed/dice

A stuckey/max/Amare big 3 in 4 years would be sick...word?

I would do it, but I don't see why the Suns would either. You'll have to find a team desparate for a PG (and also a team close to contending). I wouldn't mind moving Billups for a better young big though.

I doubt the Magic are dumb enough to trade us Howard. Gasol was already stolen. Bosh gets hurt too much for my liking. Minny won't trade Jefferson. I wonder if Utah wants to make changes since they can never make it over the hump (they wouldn't want Billups, but maybe a Sheed/Amir for Boozer deal?). The Hornets aren't going to move West (or really do any major moves IMO).

Man, if only we could do a deal for Howard...

Sheed (13.7) + Amir (3.7) + Billups (11) for Howard (13) + Battie (5.8) + Cook (3.5) + Nelson (5.5)

Nelson has a long contact, but oh well. I'm not a big fan of his, but he'd be fine as a backup I guess. Or maybe they would do Bogans instead (3 mil). Aside from Howard we'd gain no contracts longer than the 2009/10 season.

We'd have to draft Lawson or another PG.

PG Stuckey/Lawson
SG RIP/Bogans/AA
SF Tay/Bogans/AA
PF Max/Dyess/Cook
C Howard/Dyess/Battie

I'd probably split the MLE to bring back Herrmann or another SF backup and also a 3rd string PG.

Hey, I can dream right?

Bosh gets hurt too much for my liking.

Tell me I didn't just read that you wouldn't trade Chauncey for Chris Bosh.

Of course, Toronto doesn't really need ANOTHER PG.

Tell me I didn't just read that you wouldn't trade Chauncey for Chris Bosh.

Of course I would. But the Raps wouldn't do it anyway, they'd probably want Tay and Amir as well. I wish we could see Amir a lot more to assess his skills. He's no Howard or Bosh, but who knows what he could do with consistant minutes?

I guess checking again Bosh does play 70 games a year (not as bad as I thought).

If you guys are looking for a new home for Chauncey, I bet Hammond would love to have him in Milwaukee.

But what in return?

Chauncey and our 1st for Charlie V and Bogut?

Maybe Mo Williams, Charlie and thier 1st for CB?

I'm not high enough on Charlie V to make that deal, unless they have a fairly high 1st rounder. I guess Mo Williams isn't that bad.

I'm not high enough on Charlie V to make that deal, unless they have a fairly high 1st rounder. I guess Mo Williams isn't that bad.

id try to get calderon if we were to trade with toronto. hes really good at setting up guys and using everybody on the floor, and has a decent 3 pt shot.

as for mo, dudes a chucker

The Raps are going to keep Calderon and trade TJ Ford.

If you guys are looking for a new home for Chauncey, I bet Hammond would love to have him in Milwaukee.

But what in return?

Chauncey and our 1st for Charlie V and Bogut?

Maybe Mo Williams, Charlie and thier 1st for CB?
DeAndre Jordon would be a decent pick with their first. He's raw, but could be the next Howard or Amare.

Then move Sheed and AA and Minny's 2nd to Houston for Battier, Bobby Jackson and their first. Draft a wing (we mentioned many) and Lawson.

PG Stuckey/Lawson/Jackson
SG RIP/#25
SF Tay/Battier
PF Max/Amir
C Dyess/Jordan

You can shuffle the bigs based on who develops faster (Amir or Jordan). Too drastic?

Also, I didn't include whatever players we might get in return for Billups with the pick either. If we got Bell we could use a first to stash a foreign player and use Bell as the backup SG.

Not a big Raja Bell fan

I was talking about Charlie Bell. I'd be fine with either Bell as a backup 2 though.

I think Chris is talking about Charlie, not Raja.

It's understandable since this started as a Det/Phx discussion.