http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nhl/teams/20080123/80x60/det.gif -vs- http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nhl/teams/20080123/80x60/dal.gif

Detroit
54-21-7, 1st in Central

Dallas
45-30-7, 3rd in Pacific

Series Schedule
Series Tied 0-0
1. Thu, May 8 – at Det
2. Sat, May 10 – at Det
3. Mon, May 12 – at Dal
4. Wed, May 14 – at Dal
*5. Sat, May 17 – at Det
*6. Mon, May 19 – at Dal
*7. Wed, May 21 – at Det

(All times TBA)


Should be one hell of a series.

Nevermind, I thought this was about pro wrestling.

If we lose, I'm blaming it on H1Man for making the series thread.

For every game that is only on Versus, I shall kill you.

For every game that is only on Versus, I shall kill you.

Good luck killing someone multiple times.

For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you!
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/46/68/0000034668_20061021010455.jpg

Times were released (can't find any TV info):


No. 1 Detroit Red Wings vs. No. 5 Dallas Stars
Thursday, May 8 -- Dallas at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, May 10 -- Dallas at Detroit, 7 p.m.
Monday, May 12 -- Detroit at Dallas, 8 p.m.
Wednesday, May 14 -- Detroit at Dallas, 8 p.m.
*-Saturday, May 17 -- Dallas at Detroit, 1:30 p.m.
*-Monday, May 19 -- Detroit at Dallas, 8 p.m.
*-Wednesday, May 21 -- Dallas at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.

I'm betting weekend games are on NBC and all weekly ones on versus.

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/46/68/0000034668_20061021010455.jpg

You're really not doing a good job of disproving that frat boy stereotype.

Just found this on NBC's site (times missing, but confirms the weekend games):


Monday, May 12
Detroit at Dallas, TBA

Tuesday, May 13
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, TBA

Wednesday, May 14
Detroit at Dallas, TBA

Thursday, May 15
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, TBA

Saturday, May 17
Dallas at Detroit, TBA, NBC, if necessary

Sunday, May 18
Philadelphia at Pittsburgh, TBA, NBC, if necessary

Monday, May 19
Detroit at Dallas, TBA, if necessary

Tuesday, May 20
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, TBA, if necessary
Wednesday, May 21
Dallas at Detroit, TBA, if necessary

Thursday, May 22
Philadelphia at Pittsburgh, TBA, if necessary

Watching family guy makes me a frat boy?

No, you are a frat boy. Frat boys watch Family Guy.

Right, because those are the only viewers that the show has, that's why its been around so long. Other than the part where I usually watch the show with my roommate who's not even in college.

I didn't say they were the only viewers that show has. I'm just saying frat boys do watch it.

H1man you don't post in pistons threads anymore man?

I'm not a frat boy and I don't watch it. There you go, living proof.

SAT Time:

Consider the following statement to be true:

All Family Guy episodes are Juvenile and all Frat Boys Watch Family Guy.

Thus it can be inferred:

a. All Frat Boys are Juvenile

b. All Frat Boys are Gay

c. Zekyl is From Cleveland

d. Zekyl is Gay

e. Not That There's Anything Wrong With That.

f. All of The Above

lmfao

On behalf of Zekyl, I'd like to apologize to H1Man for hijacking his thread. Sorry, will not happen again.

Ok, back on topic...

I know it's irrelevant now, but how did they fare vs. the Red Wings in the regular season?

Good question. I think we always matched up well with them but I don't have any actual numbers. I'd like to see how they did.

I wouldn't be asking this if the Red Wings were close to getting back to the Finals and may be the only Detroit team to win a championship, but I was just wondering if Dallas gave them problems in any aspect.

I think I heard last night that Dallas only won one of the 4 games we played.

^ If they only won 1, it was the 1 I saw. I was hoping it wasn't Dallas but I bet we take them in 5. I would have said 6 but the Wings have been on a tear. It's my playoff wallpaper.

I'm glad it ended last night cuz I really don't want our guys on ice much longer.

FYI: I like Family Guy.

I do too now.

Family Guy rocks, and I used to piss in the AC unit of the frat house next to my apartment at NIU.

HAY, TALK ABOUT HOCKEY U GUYZ.

I promised H1Man!

Family Guy rocks, and I used to piss in the AC unit of the frat house next to my apartment at NIU.
GOOD. Even though I'm a guy in a fraternity, I'll admit that MOST fraternity guys (especially the ones that classify as "frat guys") are assholes and need to have their asses kicked.

Pretty neutral on the Frat Guy issue (friends with some, tons of assholes too).

Really like Family Guy.

Fucking love how the Wings are playing. I really hope they keep killing in the corners, throwing everything at the net and hitting every player they skate near against Dallas. I think this is going to be a very tough series with the way Dallas is playing, but I like our chances if we keep the intensity up.

I do too now.

It's good to have you back. WTF struggles without the steady influence of SDB.

I don't like frat boys, Fox cartoons or the Red Wings.

Great thread for me, lol.

GTFO of this thread.

Thanks MoTown! I never really was gone though. I checked in on the board while I was "gone", but didn't really have the time to do anything else.

Any reason why you hate your HOMETOWN DETROIT RED WINGS, Glenn?

Not in this thread.

Out of respect for H1Man and Zekyl.

And MoTown.

:motown owns:

Agree with DE about the hitting. I especially love seeing Datsyuk and Berg out there throwing their bodies at people even when it doesn't do much, at least they're making the effort to hit.

Filppula will play in Game 1 tonight

by Ansar Khan Thursday May 08, 2008, 11:27 AM


Update from the morning skate: Valterri Filppula will play tonight in Game 1 vs. Dallas after missing two days of practices earlier this week with a leg injury. There are no lineup changes for the Wings.
"I felt good,'' Filppula said. "We played a lot this season, so missing a couple of days I don't think is going to be a big deal.''


This is good. Don't want to change around things on that line since they've been so hot (mostly Franzen).

Is Chelios going? I remember him being out in the last game against Colorado in favor of Lebda and Lilja.

Babcock: Chelios ready for next round

by Ansar Khan Thursday May 01, 2008, 10:12 PM


Wings coach Mike Babcock said after Thursday's game that defenseman Chris Chelios should be ready for Game 1 of the Western Conference finals. He missed the game with a lower-body injury.
"He tried to go in the warm-up, couldn't get his legs going,'' Babcock said. "I'm pretty sure he'll be ready game 1.
Chelios played only one 16-second shift in the final 8:30 in Game 3. He practiced on Wednesday, however, and claimed to be feeling good. Andreas Lilja replaced him in the lineup.

RAFALSKI!!!!!!!!!

I could go for good boring 4-1 opener to this series.

Not boring but uneventful

KRONNER!!!!!!!!!!!

2-0 Wings.

Nothing boring about that goal.

2-0 Wings

That was Franzen not Kronwall.

I just saw that. Franzen on the tip

That was a solid period for the Wings. I expected us to be a little rusty given the week-long layoff but it hasn't had any effect so far.

Turco seems to be a good tender. I haven't watched a lot of hockey but in the SJ series he didn't get to high or low. Prolly a good trait for a tender.

That was a great save by Turco.

And Ozzie with a great save of his own.

I think Zetty had a lil more time than he thought he did on that wrap around.

That was a sweet goal.

Great hit by Kronwall. 3-0 Wings!

4-0 Wings.

Filppula from Sammy and Kronwall.

What a great way to start the series. We haven't lost a step with the layoff.

OZZY!!!

Dallas looks flat to me. That last triple OT game might be effecting them.

I could go for good boring 4-1 opener to this series.

:cogent:

Af

(for zekyl)

I actually fell asleep between the second and third (looks like I didn't miss too much thank god) but those first two periods were amazing. Kronwall is just a beast! It's about time we finally had another one patrolling the blue and center ice. And Ozzie stoned Hagman, man is he playing well. We have a hot goaltender right now, a fucking destroyer out there on D and a player who's decided to peak just at the perfect time in his career (apart from all the other great talent and good players we already have). It's fun to be Wings fan right now.

Dallas looks flat to me. That last triple OT game might be effecting them.

I just think we have a similar situation to Colorado. We're too fast for them. Dallas has a couple good lines but overall our players are more skilled. Dallas also plays the same style that the Avs do (dump and chase with good forechecking). The problem is our players are controlling the blue line on them (for the most part) and they can't play their game. I'm sure they'll have better efforts, but I think their style is flawed against us. Aside from Morrow, they don't have any power forward types, which is what you need to be a dump and chase/forechecking team.

I could go for good boring 4-1 opener to this series.
Nice call

Af

(for zekyl)
You lost me, I'm confused.
It may be the hangover.

I just think we have a similar situation to Colorado. We're too fast for them. Dallas has a couple good lines but overall our players are more skilled. Dallas also plays the same style that the Avs do (dump and chase with good forechecking). The problem is our players are controlling the blue line on them (for the most part) and they can't play their game. I'm sure they'll have better efforts, but I think their style is flawed against us. Aside from Morrow, they don't have any power forward types, which is what you need to be a dump and chase/forechecking team.

Spot on and perfectly put.

The difference is that Dallas has a better defense and a much better goalie, which keeps them in games they have no business winning. After the first game with Colorado, I was convinced it would be a short series. Dallas it the type of team we'll have to take care of business against or you can let them back in the series (base on what I mentioned above).

Just found out that a girl I always see at parties is a Wings fan. She wants to watch a game sometime, but I don't have Versus. This blows. It just further proves how stupid it is to have all your games on a channel that isn't accessible to the general public.

Ok. Time for the Wings! 2-1 so far too.

Just found out that a girl I always see at parties is a Wings fan. She wants to watch a game sometime, but I don't have Versus. This blows. It just further proves how stupid it is to have all your games on a channel that isn't accessible to the general public.

Sorry Zek. Can't agree with you on this one. VS has let me watch my beloved Wings again. I haven't missed a game cuz of VS.

What a douche bag...Ott going after Ozzy.

Why isn't Franzen playing?

He's out. He keeps gettin headaches that go back to last series. No play till more tests.

Sorry Zek. Can't agree with you on this one. VS has let me watch my beloved Wings again. I haven't missed a game cuz of VS.

Same here. For as much as I missed during the regular season the playoffs is making up for it. I almost feel like I know the team again haha

He's out. He keeps gettin headaches that go back to last series. No play till more tests.

Concussion? I don't recall him being hit that hard in the Colorado series.

Hope he isn't out very long.

Man is Ozzie aggressive coming out of his net. Nice to see.

Nice poke check there by Turco.

man, it seems like some of our Defensemen can handle the puck better than some forwards on other teams. <--homer?

Concussion? I don't recall him being hit that hard in the Colorado series.

Hope he isn't out very long.

Much better way to put it.

man, it seems like some of our Defensemen can handle the puck better than some forwards on other teams. <--homer?

Just the truth.

Did they just have Mo Cheese dancing on TV there? THAT wouldn't have happened on any "national" network.

Nice to see the Wings NOT trying to sit on the lead.

Franzen out with concussion-like symptoms

The Red Wings announced before the game that Johan Franzen is out for at least the next two games because of concussion-like symptoms. The club said Franzen has been experiencing recurring headaches since early in the Western Conference semifinals against Colorado. The team's medical staff recommended that he sit out. He will not play until further tested and evaluation is completed. He is scheduled to remain in Detroit to undergo further testing on Monday.

Franzen leads the league with 12 goals in the playoffs and has scored 27 goals in his last 27 games, dating back to the regular season.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2008/05/franzen_out_with_concussionlik.html

So Franzen is out for Game 3 too.

Nice save Ozzy, or is it Ozzie?

Kind of like the Pistons, let Franzy sit out, especially if we can win this game. I know there isn't really a choice but it'll make it easier if we can hold home ice advantage in the first 2.

WOW!!!!!

Ozzie! Ozzie! Ozzie!

McCarty still gettin it done. Get a PP with his effort.

LOL.

Homer is driving Turco (and Norstrom) nuts.

Is there an NHL goalie that doesn't have a Homer voodoo doll or picture on his dartboard? Do they have nightmares where every important moment of their life is blocked by Homer standing in front of them?

Penalty on Morrow?

^ Yep

Babs coachin em up

Ott taking a shot at Draper.

I'd love to have Probert or Kocur to come back for one game to chat with Ott.

WTF was that?

WTF WAS THAT?

Ozzy down.

Oh those mother fuckers

That should be suspension.

I have a feeling that McCarty will have a conversation with Ribeiro sometime this series.

Ozzy clipped him a lil bit.

Held home ice. Wish we could play tomorrow.

Not that much which means rule number one applies: you NEVER cheap shot a goalie.

Very good 3rd period. Way to protect a lead without sitting on it.

So Dallas had their best period in the 1st, right?

Not saying that just cuz of the goal. But it seemed they played their best there. No?

I missed a lot of the 1st because of the Pistons game. I thought they were dangerous but mostly never that dominant at any point in the 2nd or 3rd.

Not that much which means rule number one applies: you NEVER cheap shot a goalie.

It'd be nice to get up in Game 3 and then send a message.

Suspension for that hit on Oz. Hell he even broke his stick. Big difference between skating across a stick because the guy stuck it out a lil, and then retaliating by taking a baseball swing up near the head.

Anyway, good win. That was supposed to be the Stars' game, keep it close then grind out the win. Detroit wasn't hearin it. Hopefully Franzen isn't too messed up. I think we can do alright without him but the Stanley looks a lot closer with him in the lineup.

I didn't get to see the first period either but Dallas seemed much better than they did in Game 1. Their forecheck was better and their breakout was better too. But they got their ass kicked in the faceoff circle.

Suspension for that hit on Oz. Hell he even broke his stick. Big difference between skating across a stick because the guy stuck it out a lil, and then retaliating by taking a baseball swing up near the head.

I don't think Ribiero is going to be suspended. Ozzie got him with the end of his stick and then embellished it quite a bit on the slash. I do expect Ribiero to have a target on his back in Game 3 though.

I dunno. Yes Oz hammed it up, but I don't think he stuck Rib with his stick. From what I saw Rib was skating by, Oz stuck it out and Rib ran into it. There was no force to it, and it didn't warrant having a stick broken across his chest.

I didn't see that his stick broke when he hit Ozzie. That's a hell of a slash.

They showed the stick on the ice a couple minutes later and it was broken.

I forgot the analysts name on ESPN. But he the worst of the Wing haters.

He said what Ozzy did was way more dangerous than what Ribb did. He said Ozzy butt ended Ribb to the face with his stick.

WTF? Ozzy wasn't even looking at him.

H8ERS

Ribiero was going after Rafalski after the play was over. He was gunning for him. If Ozzie did touch him, it would be because he was looking to stop Rib from headhunting. The Stars team needs to calm the fuck down. I think Ott and Ribiero have a date with Kronwall in game 3.

On a related note, my mancrush on Kronwall keeps increasing. I'll make comparisons with them and the greatest trilogy of all time - Stuart and Kronwall are the live versions of the bash brothers. I love that defensive pairing.

Melrose is such a tool - he had to be the analyst you were talking about Tahoe. Osgood stuck his hand out to slow down Ribiero, and the butt happened to hit him in the face. If you think that is worse than baseball bat swinging at Osgood then you, sir, are wrong and have learned nothing.

I don't know if I'm blind or what... I've watched that replay 20 times and I don't see Oz's stick hitting Rib in the face but all the Dallas fans swear it did. If you look, the front of his stick is waist high and the stick is pretty level, so I don't see how the back of his stick could be that high. It would be nice to see a better angle because Oz is blocking the view of where his stick hit Rib.

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wow fuck this cunt for swinging at ozzy. fucker needs to be suspended but prolly wont get it

Mo, yep, Melrose. Didn't the Wings dis him (according to him) for not hiring him? I remember something, but not specifics. It would have had to be when we hired Scotty or something, maybe even before that.

He's got himself a cush job, but he's a douche for blatant Wing hating.

He was coach of the Adirondack wings I think and then when we kept making him wait (he was considered a "hot commodity") he signed with the Kings. At least as best as I can remember that's how it went. I'm sure there were some under the table promises made him that were never fulfilled or something.

I'm sure he felt he should have replaced Jacques Demers.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, get over it.

and thanks for the info Vin.

He was coach of the Adirondack wings I think and then when we kept making him wait (he was considered a "hot commodity") he signed with the Kings. At least as best as I can remember that's how it went. I'm sure there were some under the table promises made him that were never fulfilled or something.

I'm sure he felt he should have replaced Jacques Demers.

I can't say that's exactly how it is (since I could be wrong too) but that is exactly how I remember it.

I actually kind of forgot about Jacques.

Neither Ribiero or Osgood will be suspended for Game 3. They both received fines. Ott also received a fine.

Neither Ribiero or Osgood will be suspended for Game 3. They both received fines. Ott also received a fine.

I figured as much, you pretty much had to take them both down or neither of them.

That's all well and good, but if one of our guys takes a run at Ribiero (which will almost certainly happen) and gets penalized and it costs us a key goal, that's bullshit. Ribiero clearly would have been suspended if it weren't the playoffs, and Osgood probably would just have been fined.

Yeah, McSorley was charged with assult for his two hander on Brashear. He was suspended for 23 games (including the playoffs). After being found guilty of assult the suspension was lengthened another year.

The only difference is that McSorley hit the head. Yes, that is a huge difference, but to not even get a game amazes me.

Art of the draw


posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 (by Hradek)

I don't have to be Don Cherry to tell you that the Stars have to be better in several areas in Monday night's Game 3, if they're going to make a series of their Western Conference final against the Wings.
The Stars could start by winning a few more draws. In the first two games of the series, both losses, Dallas centers were simply dreadful in the circle. In Game 1, the Wings won a whopping 63 percent of faceoffs. I figured the Stars would be better in Game 2. I was wrong. Detroit pivots took 71 percent of the draws in a 2-1 win.

In total, the Wings have won 74 of 111 faceoffs in the first two games. That's pretty impressive.

None of the Stars' top three centers have distinguished themselves in the circle. Mike Ribiero has dropped 20 of 28 draws. Mike Modano has lost 17 of 24 faceoffs. And, Brad Richards was beaten on 20 of 31 opportunities.

Not good.

Worse, the Stars' centers have been losing important draws in the defensive zone. Modano lost all six of his D-zone faceoffs in a 4-1 Game 1 loss. In the same game, in the same circumstance, Ribiero was 0-for-3. That's a combined 0-for-9. That's nine times the Wings' gained control of the puck in the attacking zone. It didn't get much better in Game 2. Modano and Ribiero combined to go 3-for-9 in the D-zone, while Richards was just 2-for-5.

At home, the Dallas centers will have a little advantage. (Clearly, they need it.) At the American Airlines Center, Ribiero, Modano, Richards and whoever else head coach Dave Tippett might send into the circle, won't have to put their stick down first. Detroit's centers will have to commit their stick blade first. That should work against them.

As you might have heard, the Wings are a great puck possession team. They get the puck and they don't like to give it up until the red light is flashing behind your goalie. If you're going to beat them, you have to limit their ability to possess the puck. Winning a few (dozen) more faceoffs, would be a great start for the Stars in Game 3.

That's all well and good, but if one of our guys takes a run at Ribiero (which will almost certainly happen) and gets penalized and it costs us a key goal, that's bullshit. Ribiero clearly would have been suspended if it weren't the playoffs, and Osgood probably would just have been fined.

I think it's just as likely guys keep 'accidentally' running into Oz and trying to not get interferance calls, or 1 guy really runs into him and takes the penalty. Either way it will be an interesting game.

In a home-crowd Stars forum it was pretty active until I said 'Ribeiro meet Mr. Kronwell' and it's been over a day without another comment lol.

That's all well and good, but if one of our guys takes a run at Ribiero (which will almost certainly happen) and gets penalized and it costs us a key goal, that's bullshit. Ribiero clearly would have been suspended if it weren't the playoffs, and Osgood probably would just have been fined.

I think it's just as likely guys keep 'accidentally' running into Oz and trying to not get interferance calls, or 1 guy really runs into him and takes the penalty. Either way it will be an interesting game.

In a home-crowd Stars forum it was pretty active until I said 'Ribeiro meet Mr. Kronwell' and it's been over a day without another comment lol.

Dallas, as expected, has come out firing. And man, does Ozzie look solid right now.

It used to be that if a guy got his stick up on you, you were supposed to grab it and yank it and let him know that he can't get it up like that. I fucking hate Bettman.

Edit: In all fairness there was way too much grabbing the stick before the rule change too. I fucking hated those Devils teams. Trap my ass, let's just grab players in the neutral zone and tackle guys in the slot.

We are great at getting goals off Dallas turnovers too. Good goal!

How the hell did I double post?

Anyway... Dallas has outplayed Detroit much of the time, and could easily have 3 or 4 goals. At least the Wings are up.

couple of cheapies by Dallas. Not that we've never scored a cheap one, but its not like they're dominating us or anything.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODLER!

Love it.

btw...I know that not how you spell it.

What's the score? I don't have Versus and its not on CBC!

I'm lovin that goal by Zetty

4-2 Wings.

That goal was sick!

Oh and nice stab right after that by Ozzie.

Zett pimped that.

Anyone wanna recap the first two periods for me?

I missed the first period, but the Wings are getting all the chances here in the second and third. The Stars aren't playing bad, they've just made a couple of mistakes and the Red Wings have made them pay each time. Datsyuk had the two goals in the first. Hudler had a break away in the second, and Hank made a sick move when the Stars were lazy in the third for a shorthanded goal.

I hate that fuckin Ott

Dallas is dirty as hell. They've realized they're not even close to as good as the Wings so they're trying to hurt them now.

I missed the first period, but the Wings are getting all the chances here in the second and third. The Stars aren't playing bad, they've just made a couple of mistakes and the Red Wings have made them pay each time. Datsyuk had the two goals in the first. Hudler had a break away in the second, and Hank made a sick move when the Stars were lazy in the third for a shorthanded goal.

Hudler on a breakaway? Wow. That must've been one slow breakaway.

It was definitely an awkward one. He got a pass all the way at the blue line and Dallas was no where near him.

^ Reall shitty line change by Dallas gave us the chance. Hudler didn't put any real move on Turco, just threw it in the net. Great goal.

I am just suprised that he wasn't caught by a defender on the backcheck because he is such a poor skater.

And Dats with goal # 3.

Can you fuickin believe how good these guys are playin?

How sweet will that be to play the finals in your own time zone?

The Wings are playing just great. Dallas is trying to throw everything they can at them in both skating, pressure and being physical (which is why they're getting so cheap; they can't do anything to rattle the Wings with just good physical play); but the Wings are just playing so solid and keeping control on the game. Ozzie's been good and they make Dallas pay on any mistake.

And Zetts goal was amazing. And that 5th goal was another great Zetts play. Wow.

Hopefully that Broneberger dude (who just signed with Dallas) from Sweden is second-guessing himself right about now.

These last 2 games have been by far the most impressive I've seen the Wings play since maybe 2002.

I am just suprised that he wasn't caught by a defender on the backcheck because he is such a poor skater.

That's how bad the line change was.


9-0 for Ozzie in the playoffs. That's unreal. Realistically, the Wings would be 11-0 right now if he started the playoffs.

That pass by Z on Datsyuk's last goal was freaking mind-blowing. There were 4 Stars covering him but he somehow managed to get the puck to Datsyuk.

That's just sick.

What's the score? I don't have Versus or the internet! Can you help me Mr. Langlois?

If the Wings and Pittsburgh sweep their series, the Stanley Cup finals would start on Tuesday in Detroit, with Game 2 on Thursday, followed by Games 3 and 4 Saturday, May 24 and Tuesday, May 27, in Pittsburgh.

Ozzie with a couple nice saves early.

THANKS for posting here H1. I totally forgot about the game tonight.

Is Dallas trying to up-tempo things here early? Kind of looks like it to me.

Well they have to go all out and keep the Wings on their heels. Plus they want to do everything possible to keep the Wings out of transition where they've been deadly.

Tahoe's right, they did play up tempo and really attacked. But I thought we did a good job weathering the storm and never losing overall control of the game. Ozzie keeps looking good.

hopefully fraserburn can fall through here at some point. Hockey is a hotter topic now and he's not here to see it? :(

DE....Hopefully they'll run out of energy.

About time we had a PP.

We seem to be getting some good momentum now.

DATS!!!

What?

That's a horrible call.

Oh wow.

How did they not score there?

Purely a so-called "make-up" call for earlier in the series when they claimed holmstrom interfered with turco. This is not the case here at all. The more they replay it, the more the NHL front office should overrule that, such bullshit...Neither his skates or his body were inside the crease or even close to touching Turco. what a joke.

Hockey is so awesome, it's a wonder I don't watch it more often. I'm sure it has something to do with the Wings always being blacked out on FSN during the regular season.

SHIT!

You know what though, I'm kind of glad D scored before the 3rd. They have all intermission to figure this thing out.

Damnit.


Blast.

Should be 1-1 right now.

This should be tied right now. I'm so fucking pissed!!!

You know what though, I'm kind of glad D scored before the 3rd. They have all intermission to figure this thing out.

You're 100% right. It is always better to receive a goal in the last seconds of one period than in the first couple of minutes of the next period.

I'm not accepting that we're going to lose this one, but its not that bad if we did. We'll be heading to The Joe.

Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CRAP! I missed it.

What'd he say...40 secs in on the goal?

Damn...Rafaski on the trip. PP Dallas

FUCK!

Dallas scores on the PP. 2-1. Kind of a 5 on 3 with one Wing without a stick.

Wings spending too much time in their own zone.

Damn.

3-1 Stars.

You think maybe the NHL is dreading two sweeps in the Conference Finals?

Looks like we can put the brooms away. Thanks Wings for not giving me my bday present.

You think maybe the NHL is dreading two sweeps in the Conference Finals?

No. They were drooling over a Pitt v Det finals with both teams sweeping their way in. Any casual hockey fan who lost interest after the strike would tune in for at least one of those games. Two of the greatest teams, memories of times past. It's exactly what the NHL needs (not that it will help too much).

You think maybe the NHL is dreading two sweeps in the Conference Finals?

According to all the top sites theoretically the NHL is drooling over two sweeps and a Wings-Penguins final.

Edit: Guess I was a bit late with that answer.

lol... we both said 'drooling'

I saw a lot of non-calls against Dallas and two goals that could/should have been awarded to Detroit that weren't. Maybe it's home cookin', maybe I'm a homer.

FWIW: I thought it was a hard-fought intense game. The Wings had a shitty call against them and a couple of bad breaks and Dallas really played like it could be their last game of the year and they deserve this win. I like that the Wings didn't play a let up game and even had their chances as well.

I feel that Dallas won but this was a lifeline game and not a momentum changer. The Wings can still feel good about their chances at wrapping this up at home.

McCarty should do something about Ott next game.

Ott reeks like air over a warm turd. Somebody needs to mess him up.

The first wings goal that got called off should have been a goal. The second (where Datsyuk slid into Turco and the puck seemingly ended up in the net), shouldn't have. That's a non-homer opinion on that. If you think about both of those goals from a Stars fan point of view, the first one you can't argue, the second you would be pissed if they counted.

The only problem is, getting the first goal of the game can really get the momentum going your way, and getting it pulled on a bad call can really get it going the other way. We were getting outplayed early, but that goal could have really swung things. Maybe we would have won, maybe they still would have been all over us all game, but we'll never know.

Barry Melrose (Wings hater) said on sportscenter this morning that the first goal was a terrible call and he thought we would have won the game had we struck first.

It was an awful call. The problem I have with the NHL is the double standards. The Stars first goal had someone standing right in the crease, but he was on the side of Osgood. The crease rule doesn't make any sense anymore.

The crease rule is now "if you're in the crease and you interfere with the goalie". You can stand in the crease all you want as long as you aren't interfering. Although, on the Dallas goal, the guy in the crease did hit Ozzie in the leg with his stick while he was in the crease before he scored.

Somehow, I don't think Illitch is disappointed that they get an extra home game out of this.

This was BS. That guy definately beat the puck into the crease. I thought the goal was fair because he was to the side and didn't impede Ozzie, but given the first goal taken back how can you allow this one where he clearly entered the crease prematurely? What a joke.


Detroit lost for the first time since April 16, ending a nine-game winning streak that was the franchise's longest in a single postseason. Yet the Red Wings can always wonder how differently this game might've played out if they kept the 1-0 lead they appeared to have taken when a shot by Pavel Datsyuk (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1223) hit the back of the net.
The goal was waved off immediately, with officials telling Detroit captain Nicklas Lidstrom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=539) that Holmstrom's backside interfered with Turco in the crease. Replays didn't necessarily confirm that, but it didn't matter because it's not a reviewable play. Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said Holmstrom's history of crowding and bumping goalies -- as he did to Turco earlier this series -- likely factored in.
"That's a reputation call, totally," Babcock said. "Kelly [Sutherland] is a good referee. He just blew the call. That's life."
Turco said he was "not really out there thinking about calls getting evened up."
"I couldn't move freely to make that save on the shot," Turco said. "I really don't think it's a bad call. I don't think it's black-and-white like it used to be. It's the referee's discretion."
With commissioner Gary Bettman in the building, officials hardly discussed Dallas' first goal, scored by Loui Eriksson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3161) while he was clearly in the crease.
Eriksson insisted the puck beat him into the crease, which made his presence legal. Detroit goalie Chris Osgood (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=700) said Eriksson "was right on top of me."
Officials went with Eriksson's version.
"It hit my body and then hit the stick," Eriksson said. "I was just standing there. I didn't hit it with my hand. I knew it was good."
Osgood, who had been 9-0 this postseason, said the rule "keeps floating around."
"I don't know if there's a force field around the crease or how it works," he said. "I'm not quite sure about the logic or interpretation."
Eriksson's goal put Dallas ahead -- finally.

It seems the only way Dallas can win games in the playoffs is by being in the crease.

Franzen out for G5 too.

First of all that's not a trip, he got the puck first.

And yes, someone needs to take Ott's punk ass out. What a fucking cheap shot artist.

This is looking like it's going to be a fun game. And man, look at Ozzie play...

what a pass for Dallas

1-0 them

You can tell that Dallas came up with the idea of having Turco fire the puck out of the zone to get the Wings stuck in transition. It's been working too.

Got one.

1-1

First of all that's not a trip, he got the puck first.

And yes, someone needs to take Ott's punk ass out. What a fucking cheap shot artist.

I agree. It was not a trip, but did you hear the announcers saying how great the ref was that made the wrong call? lol

I guess they were just trying to keep the peace.

What a fun first period! Playoff Hockey.

Dallas has really decided to play a stronger transition game. They're trying to move their forwards out of the zone faster whenever possible. I think it's not a bad idea because: one, it could catch the Wings stuck Dallas' end (which has happened quite a bit this game) and two it forces Turco to be more aggressive. I hope the Wings adjust to this and make them pay.

Dalls looks a lot more energized today and partly in the last game.

They do. And the Wings, though playing well, aren't rising to the challenge and creating better chances.

Well we'll see what the boys are made of here, down 1 starting the 3rd.

We need to control the puck down low and get our shots and chances closer to Turco.

And the Wings aren't dealing with this adversity well at all. Dumb penalty. Breezing through two weeks has it's downside.

It's one shot and out of the Stars end. I hope for these last 3 minutes we can keep it in their zone.

Heres our chance. Empty net, face off in their zone. Less than a minute to go.

Man, everything that was going our way early in the series are NOT going our way now.

Back to Dallas we go.

Oh well. Dallas deserved that win. I think the Wings weren't ready for Dallas to play so well defensively. We have a series now.

In fact, now that I think about it, I wonder if all that talk about the crappy call last game and Homer's play in the crease and all that took away from the fact that Dallas had played well that last game and that the Wings should be ready for more of that.

^ We definately need to step up. We were getting beat at almost every turn today.

It was like we couldn't get the puck in the zone, or when we did it there were 2 or 3 defenders waiting for it, and they came in our zone skating freely.

That was their making a HUGE effort to beat us in the transition game. They were able to make sure we never got great rushes while at the same time breaking out REALLY fast to get their own 3 on 2 and 2 on 1 rushes.

That was teh ghey.

^ Thx.

I'm begining to wonder if that 4 ot game didn't take a toll on Dallas and they finally got their legs back last game.

We better be ready to go.

And still NO ONE made a run at Ott.

Maybe. It sure looks that way. But I also think they made a conscious effort today to attack the transition game and play better D the full length of the rink. I think they made some great adjustments that the Wings weren't ready for. Babcock got beat IMO today. I don't mind saying that because he's done a fantastic job this year and I really think he can come back and tweak some things for the next game.

I miss the days of having an enforcer, not a stupid hack goon, but a Probert/Kocur enforcer and dropping the gloves. You have to get them to back off. And, if nothing else, it got him off the ice for 5 minutes at least.

Ott is really pissing me off. I hate him. I honestly hate him.

FINISH THEM TONIGHT

I hate the stupid pro Dallas announcers. All they do is suck their dicks the whole game. Dallas comes down and pressures for a few minutes, they heap all sorts of praise on them (understandibly so). Detroit pressures for a few minutes on their end until Dallas finally gets a clear. The announcers praise Dallas for getting a great clear. It's so rediculous. They did nothing but praise the Stars all game even though it was close the entire way.

I gotta say that while Detroit did pressure well in Game 5, Dallas handled the pressure even better. I didn't hear much of the comments but even though the game was pretty even, Dallas' D was better than our offensive pressure.

But I don't care now, I'm really fired up about tonight. Now that we know we're in for a dogfight I'm dying to see the Wings come out and really put the Stars on their heels. I want this damn series over tonight!

I thought the big thing I noticed from Dallas was their puck possession. They played with the puck a lot more in the nuetral zone than the first 3 games (where they looked outmatched). They outhit us by a wide margain, so I think that is key. We have to distrupt them coming up ice like we did the first 3 games. They didn't have to do much dumping and chasing and that has to change.

True. But, as I talked about with Tahoe, I think a lot of that had to do with them stepping up their transition game. They made a huge effort to get behind the Red Wings forwards, even having Turco firing long-ice passes, in the first period especially. That's where you're 150% right about the Wings having to hit more, both when fore-checking (without getting taken out of the play) and in the neutral zone.

I also think what happened is that we got a very big percentage of our goals off of Dallas turnovers. Their just cutting that down took that away from us. It means we have to go back to what worked in the first two series. Getting the puck lower in their zone; in the corners and behind the net, anything lower than the hashmarks and get closer shots on Turco. I think if we get our chances off of pressure and down lower he won't look as good.

Couple lineup changes for tonight's game:

- Hudler is on the second line with Filppula and Cleary.

- Sammy is on the third line with Draper and Drake with Maltby going to the fourth line.

- And Lilja will replace Cheli on the 3rd D pairing

I'd rather have Cheli than Lilja (his turn overs kill us and I don't think Cheli will make the line change mistake again). Otherwise I like the changes.

This is interesting:


The last five series the Red Wings have won have all been closed out on the road. The last time they wrapped up a series at home was against Carolina in the 2002 Stanley Cup finals.

I didn't know that. That is a great stat going into tonight.

About that stat: Versus just showed that it was their last 11 out of 15 (? might be wrong, streaming picked that up fuzzy) as well as their last 5.

This should be a good game. Can't wait for the puck to drop.

Good play by Lilja standing up Ott at the blue. Now I'm happy he's in.

DRAPER!!!!!!!!!!!

Goddamn. After all the announcer talk about the first goal, I really hoped we'd get the first one. Hope Draper's ok.

Off his face. That's gotta hurt.

And he got crushed by Niskanen right after.

I just wanted to point out that the goal came from getting down deep in their zone and they're keeping it down there these early minutes. That and firing it on net as much as possible is Babcock hockey and what will win this game.

Ok, yes, it's a heartwarming story out of tragedy. Can we leave that fucking horse alone now?

Dats is fucking amazing.

Zetterberg is from another planet too, but I still think Datsyuk is our best stickhandler and has some of the softest hands in the league.

And he gets the goal!!

Zetterberg is from another planet too, but I still think Datsyuk is our best stickhandler and has some of the softest hands in the league.

Z is pretty good too but I think that Dats is just a tad bit better.

Damn. Missed that goal by Dats.

I think Zets is a bit faster and his momentum creates more havok. But yean, I think Dats is the better stickhandler, playmaker and edges out Zets on D (and Zets is really good on D too).