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MoTown
05-03-2008, 08:48 AM
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nba/teams/20080123/80x60/nor.gif -VS- http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nba/teams/20080123/80x60/sas.gif

New Orleans
(56-26) (30-11 home/ 26-15 road)

San Antonio
(56-26) (34-7 home/ 22-19 road)


Regular Season
Series tied 2-2
Nov 9: San Antonio 97, at New Orleans 85
Jan 26: New Orleans 102, at San Antonio 78
Feb 23: at San Antonio 98, New Orleans 89
Mar 12: at New Orleans 100, San Antonio 75

Series Schedule:
Series tied 0-0
1. Sat, May 3 – at NO, 10:00 pm EDT (TNT) Preview
2. Mon, May 5 – at NO, 9:30 pm EDT (TNT)
3. Thu, May 8 – at SA, 9:30 pm EDT (ESPN)
4. Sun, May 11 – at SA, 8:00 pm EDT (TNT)
*5. Tue, May 13 – at NO (TNT)
*6. Thu, May 15 – at SA (ESPN)
*7. Mon, May 19 – at NO (TNT)

Statistics:
Individual
29.6 T. Parker Scoring C. Paul 24.6
13.8 T. Duncan Rebounds T. Chandler 11.2
7.0 T. Parker Assists C. Paul 12.0
1.4 T. Parker Steals C. Paul 2.0
2.4 T. Duncan Blocks D. West 1.6

Team
43.6 Rebounds 41.0
15.8 Assists 20.8
6.0 Steals 6.0
102.4 Points For 102.8
100.4 Points Against 94.0

Atticus771
05-03-2008, 06:34 PM
Spurs in 6.

Tahoe
05-03-2008, 07:09 PM
Spurs in 5

BubblesTheLion
05-03-2008, 11:05 PM
Spurs Sweep, these between quarter activities have been bad omens so far.

Tahoe
05-04-2008, 12:31 AM
When will I start giving NO some cred? These guys are good.

Tahoe
05-04-2008, 12:53 AM
After watching the ending to this game, I could understand someone asking the question..."Are the Spurs done?

geerussell
05-04-2008, 01:22 AM
I kinda figured the spurs would win out over the hornets but then again, the Lakers are going to take the west anyway so what does it matter.

Laxation
05-04-2008, 02:03 AM
Whoever wins this series will win the west.

I'd love to see the Hornets do it, but I still think Spurs will.
Duncan won't have 5 and 3 every game..

Kstat
05-04-2008, 05:14 AM
Duncan has a very hard time scoring on Chandler and he has his hands full defending david west. His nights aren't getting any easier anytime soon.

Paul is quicker than Parker, and that also kills San Antonio's halfcourt offense.

They were my finals pick months ago, and this is why.

Big Swami
05-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Wow, holy shit! That was a great game.

Glenn
05-04-2008, 03:53 PM
They were my finals pick months ago, and this is why.

DONE.

Glenn
05-04-2008, 07:15 PM
I'll stick with Hornets in 7, btw.

Timone
05-05-2008, 05:06 PM
I had SA in 6 and I might stand by my prediction, but damn, the Hornets have a better chance than I thought.

Timone
05-05-2008, 09:46 PM
Psyched for this one.

Kstat
05-06-2008, 12:03 AM
CP3 is to Tony Parker what Tony Parker is to Steve Nash.

Paul makes Parker look like the slowest, most pathetic defender in the NBA.

Timone
05-06-2008, 07:33 AM
SA have looked really bad in the first two games of the series, especially in the 2nd half.

Uncle Mxy
05-06-2008, 07:39 AM
I found an Evil Keith protege in San Antonio:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA050608.04D.BKNspurs.notebook.4042e00.html


Popovich was much less forgiving after Monday morning's shootaround when a New Orleans reporter persisted in prying for information about what adjustments Popovich planned to deal with Hornets power forward David West.

Here was their exchange during a postpractice press session:

Reporter: “Will you try to change up your defenses on David West a little tonight?”

Popovich: “We're probably going to do four or five things you've never seen before in basketball.”

Reporter: “I sense sarcasm.”

Popovich: “You sense correctly. We're going to spend the afternoon re-inventing the light bulb. Those CFLs (compact fluorescent lightbulbs)? There are a lot of people who have problems with them, so we're going to think of something different.”

Reporter: “Might you try to use (Bruce) Bowen on David tonight?”

Popovich: “That's a good idea. Look at this guy right here. He's got all kinds of ideas. Let's do that. What's (West) going to do? Get 30? Let's put Bruce on him. What's Bruce weigh? About 90 pounds? He'll just knock the (snot) out of him.”

Timone
05-06-2008, 08:01 AM
Don't fuck wit Big Pop.

Glenn
05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1117/tdip9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8930/spurshu8.jpg

Fool
05-06-2008, 09:17 AM
I found an Evil Keith protege in San Antonio:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA050608.04D.BKNspurs.notebook.4042e00.html

The correct response from the reporter after that would have been, "Oh, right. Maybe try your center on him then. What's his name again? You guys are fucking done old man. Enjoy the flight home."

Tahoe
05-06-2008, 11:47 AM
Pop is a Jackass

Big Swami
05-06-2008, 01:46 PM
It's funny that when Evil Keith does it, it's entertaining. But when Pop does it, it just seems pathetic and depressing.

Glenn
05-06-2008, 01:53 PM
I might be wrong guys, but I don't think Pop said those things.

I think Mxy ripped it off a fansite, which is what he meant by "Evil Keith protege".

Just my take on it.

It's funny that we can all picture Pop saying that shit, though.

edit- FUCK, I just clicked the link and he actually did say that shit. WTF?

Big Swami
05-06-2008, 02:03 PM
Pop is no Boobie Knight. His sarcasm is a little unrefined.

WTFchris
05-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Pop is a Jackass


I love Pop

Cross
05-07-2008, 04:53 AM
wow i had the spurs in 5.

experience shoulda been the x factor.

I thought the Spurs match up pretty well. KT/Chandler, TD/WEst, Bowen/Peja, and Finley and mopete.


these hornets can ball, but have no chance with the lakers.

Kstat
05-07-2008, 05:30 AM
Yeah, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker can't guard David West and Chris Paul, but Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher will. Right.

Cross
05-07-2008, 08:55 AM
who's gonna stop kobe?

I think a spurs lakers would be fun, but i got a feeling the hornets wont stop exploiting the spurs weaknesses.

sure the lakers don't really have anyone that can guard cp3, but they dont use fisher alot. he hasnt played over 30 minutes vs the hornets. what about the hornets? peja on kobe? mopete on kobe?

as good as paul is, kobe cant be stopped right now. no chance is a stretch, but right now, i got the lakers beating the hornets. odom/gasol/kobe put me on that bandwagon

Big Swami
05-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Yeah, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker can't guard David West and Chris Paul, but Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher will. Right.
I think your secret identity is :mccosky:

MoTown
05-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Kstat just likes to disagree with everybody.

WTFchris
05-07-2008, 10:17 AM
Yeah, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker can't guard David West and Chris Paul, but Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher will. Right.

I agree with that statement. LA will have a worse time with those two. But, as mentioned nobody has an answer for Kobe. They'd have to help off of Fisher/Farmar and hope they don't can a bunch of three's IMO.

Kstat
05-07-2008, 01:08 PM
as good as paul is, kobe cant be stopped right now.


As good as Kobe is, Paul is having a better year right now.

Kobe got his career achievement award, but in a vacuum Paul is a more dominant offensive player right now. Just ask the Spurs.

At the very least, New Orleans has Bonzi Wells to throw at Kobe. Fisher and Farmar are speedbumps.

DrRay11
05-08-2008, 11:27 PM
This should be a good'n down the stretch.

geerussell
05-09-2008, 12:01 AM
Paul is a more dominant offensive player right now. Just ask the Spurs.

Could just as easily say Kobe and Nuggets there.

Kstat
05-09-2008, 02:24 AM
Could just as easily say Kobe and Nuggets there.


...did you just compare beating the nuggets to beating the spurs?

No, there's no way I just read that. It's late and I'm obviously too tired.

When I wake up in the morning, I'll re-read this thread and I'll see something completely different than what I think I'm reading right now, because what I just read confounds all logic beyond reason.

Glenn
05-09-2008, 05:33 AM
It's amazing that the Spurs were able to overcome the 101 degree fever that Duncan had a few days ago and Ginobili's sore ankle to win this game at home.

Zekyl
05-09-2008, 10:59 AM
It's amazing that the Spurs were able to overcome the giant vagina that Duncan had a few days ago and Ginobili's bitch-made-ness to win this game at home.
Fixed

WTFchris
05-09-2008, 11:18 AM
I used to love the spurs (in the David Robinson, Sean Elliot, Steve Smith days). Now I can't stand them. I'm fine with Parker, Finley and Barry. Everyone else annoys me like crazy. TD is a bigger whiner than Sheed, which is saying a lot. I hope the Hornets win out.

Cross
05-09-2008, 12:15 PM
cp3 is godlike...damn.

WTFchris
05-09-2008, 01:18 PM
He might be my favorite player now. I love watching him play.

Black Dynamite
05-11-2008, 10:58 PM
http://a983.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/49/l_29e380c00194cda444c2b63f3b2564ae.jpg


if the spurs win their series you gotta sport that as a sig Glenn.

Glenn
05-12-2008, 08:25 AM
Hopefully that is as poorly as the Hornets can play. They looked like a frigging lottery team last night.

The Spurs, OTOH, looked about as good as they can.

Game 5 will be huge, and I still see this going 7.

Fool
05-12-2008, 09:11 AM
DONE sure takes a long time.

Glenn
05-12-2008, 09:22 AM
DONE sure takes a long time.

It does appear that it is a process.

Shoulda got a patent.

Big Swami
05-12-2008, 01:05 PM
if the spurs win their series you gotta sport that as a sig Glenn.

Vinny
05-12-2008, 01:25 PM
if the spurs win their series you gotta sport that as a sig Glenn.

And thus the San Antonio Spurs picked up 671 new diehard fans.

Glenn
05-12-2008, 02:08 PM
You're not dealing with some random Clevelandite here, boys.

I wouldn't make that deal unless I got something in return if the Spurs go down to the Hornets.

Make me an offer.

BubblesTheLion
05-12-2008, 09:50 PM
You're not dealing with some random Clevelandite here, boys.

I wouldn't make that deal unless I got something in return if the Spurs go down to the Hornets.

Make me an offer.

Respect and Dignity, the same respect and dignity your "spurs are done" campaign has stripped you of.

Yes, I realize this is not much :P

Glenn
05-13-2008, 05:40 AM
I have no need for respect, nor dignity.

Glenn
05-13-2008, 06:53 AM
Well, it's a crucial day for the "DONE." movement.

The winner of tonight's Game 5 most likely wins the series.

I think we can all agree that if the Spurs win tonight to go up 3-2 that there is no way that they don't close it out at home.

That said, I'll stick to my guns...


DONE.

Glenn
05-13-2008, 02:40 PM
Long, but interesting.


Spurs have momentum on their side, but little else

By John Hollinger
ESPN.com

NEW ORLEANS -- The San Antonio Spurs are feeling pretty good right now. They're the defending champs. They've got two straight wins. They've got the momentum.

And, I would argue, they've got a lot of commentators leaning too far in the other direction now. I've heard some go so far as to declare the series over in favor of San Antonio.

So let's do a quick quiz.

What would you say is the likelihood of San Antonio winning the series? Most of you would probably give an answer somewhere around 50 percent. I suppose a few of you might go as high as 80 or 90 percent. Even a Hornets fan might tell you 30 or 40 percent.

So it might shock you to learn what the historical data says. Depending on what aspect of history you wish to emphasize most, the Spurs' chances come in somewhere between 0 and 17.5 percent.

Huh? How can this be? Let's take a look.

For starters, we can look at the history of teams that won Games 3 and 4 after dropping the first two games in a best-of-seven series. You'd think since they'd won two straight games and turned it into a best-of-3, they'd have had a pretty good shot. You'd also be wrong.

Since the NBA-ABA merger, the "road" team has won the series only 17.5 percent of the time in best-of-7s when the home team won the first four games -- seven out of 40. Five of them came in the past four years, which tricks us into thinking it's more common than it really is: In the two decades prior, it only happened twice.

If you go by history, in fact, the odds of the Spurs, Cavs and Jazz winning their series are actually slightly worse now than they were when the series began.

In conference semifinals, the team with home-court advantage wins 79.2 percent of the time. But in best-of-7s in which the home team wins the first four games, that number improves to 82.5 percent.

How can that be? It's simple, really: The team without home-court advantage has four shots to steal a game in the other team's building. When the series is tied 2-2, the "road" team has effectively squandered half its chances at getting the needed road win.

Of course, the glass-half-full approach is that Cleveland, Utah and San Antonio all tripled their odds (approximately) of winning with their past two home-court wins. As most of you have heard repeatedly during these playoffs, teams that drop the first two games of a best-of-seven series end up losing 94 percent of the time. Certainly, winning Games 3 and 4 was preferable to the alternative.

But the historical data also shows how important it is to get at least a split in the first two, and none of those teams pulled it off.

In San Antonio's case, the story gets worse. Two other indicators also point against them even more harshly than the 17.5 percent figure above.

First, every team to came back from 2-0 down except one has something in common -- namely, it played at least one competitive game on the other team's home court. Of the 13 teams to rally from down 2-0, 12 had at least one loss that was by 10 points or fewer. Yes, even Miami in 2006.

The Spurs, on the other hand, got waxed in their first two, falling by 18 and 19. Only one team -- the "heart of a champion" Rockets in 1995 -- has survived a worse beating. That year Houston lost the first two games against Phoenix by 22 and 24 before rallying to win the final three games. It will comfort Spurs fans, at least, to know that those Rockets were also a defending champion.

Additionally, both San Antonio and Utah have one more negative indicator to consider.

All seven teams that won the series after losing the first two had something in common: a positive point margin after Game 4. The Jazz (-8) and Spurs (-6) don't, even with San Antonio's Game 4 blowout of the Hornets. Believe it nor, no team in that situation has won a series since the merger, going a combined 0-for-21.

The odds improve a bit for Cleveland, according to NBA history. Teams that trailed 2-0 but had outscored the opposition through four games won the series seven times . . . but lost it on 12 other occasions, for a 36.8 percent success rate. Even teams who are an impressive +10 or better, as Cleveland is, are only 4-6.

OK, you might think, but if the Spurs take Game 5 tonight, then it's definitely over, right?

Wrong.

History says even a win in Game 5 doesn't make the Spurs, Cavs or Jazz odds-on favorites. Teams in their situation that win Game 5 prevail in the series less than half the time.

Five teams have won the series after losing the first two on the road and winning the next three ... but another six won Game 5 on the road and then punted the series anyway by dropping the final two (Cleveland against Detroit in 2006, New Jersey against Detroit in 2004, Charlotte against Milwaukee in 2001, Indiana against New York in 1994, Atlanta against Boston in 1988 and Phoenix against Seattle in 1979).

That 5-of-11 changes to 6-of-13 if you include the two NBA Finalists who won their third road game, a Game 6 (Detroit and Miami in '05 and '06), but the conclusion stays the same -- a success rate of slightly less than 50%.

Finally, let me throw in one more interesting item. Given the Spurs' veteran status, their considerable playoff experience, and their total dismantling of the Hornets in Game 4, a common sentiment has been, "We've seen them do this before." But we haven't exactly seen them do this. The Duncan-era Spurs have never won a series after going down 2-0. In fact they've never won after being down 2-1, or trailing at any point after the second game.

Of course, probability does not equal destiny. Some team is going to win a series when it has split the first four, it has a negative point margin and the home team has won every game. That's why play these games on the court instead of just going by my probability models. But it hasn't happened the first 21 times.

For encouragement, Spurs fans can look to the 1995 Rockets, who overcame even more daunting odds. That club dropped the first two on the road, had a negative point margin after four games, and was down 3-1 rather than being tied 2-2.

But we tend to remember the exceptions and forget the rule-followers, and there have been a whole lot more series that followed the rule. As a result, the odds for the Cavs, Jazz and Spurs heading into Game 5 are a lot weaker than most observers suspect, with history casting a particularly harsh glare on San Antonio's chances. While some want to play the momentum card and put these teams into the conference finals, if they follow history, they probably won't survive another week.

Glenn
05-13-2008, 02:50 PM
OK, you might think, but if the Spurs take Game 5 tonight, then it's definitely over, right?

Wrong.

As stated, I disagree.

Hopefully the home cooking is enough to carry MY HORNETS to a big Gmae 5 victory.

It's time to take the "DONE." movement to the next level. Mainstream acceptance is the goal.

Zekyl
05-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Could be wrong, but did they just say Jonathon Bender is at this game? Ahhh, what could have been.

Kstat
05-13-2008, 11:44 PM
The Spurs are getting destroyed again.

Cross
05-14-2008, 06:34 AM
tysons injured..uh oh.

i dont know the severity of it but it is an ankle injury.

cp3 and david west are certainly playing like its the playoffs

Glenn
05-15-2008, 04:09 PM
There is one silver (and black) lining in that scenario for San Antonio. An unexpected three-day break between Game 6 and 7 would figure to help the older Spurs be at their freshest for the series decider and possibly give the care-free Hornets more time than Scott would prefer to start thinking about the enormity of the moment.

Okay, that's huge.

Timone
05-15-2008, 09:48 PM
I think I dislike Tony Parker the most out of all the Spurs.

Timone
05-15-2008, 11:11 PM
I like SA to steal game 7 in NO. I'm not just saying this because the Spurs schooled the Hornets in SA again tonight either.

Kstat
05-15-2008, 11:47 PM
I'm not sure what was worse: the cheap shot horry gave to david west to knock him out of the game (possibly the series), or the fact the spurs fans gave him a 5-minute standing ovation for injuring someone.

Uncle Mxy
05-16-2008, 12:24 AM
I think I dislike Tony Parker the most out of all the Spurs.
You have Eva envy or something?

For hated Spurs players, I can't decide between Kung Fu Bruce, Big Shot Brobbie, or Flopo Ginobilly.

Timone
05-16-2008, 12:54 AM
You have Eva envy or something?


No.

Glenn
05-16-2008, 05:46 AM
Horry is a bunch of punks

Higherwarrior
05-16-2008, 10:02 AM
spurs smell blood in the water now. will west be able to play and be close to 100% for game 7? if not, i think spurs complete the comeback and advance.

DrRay11
05-16-2008, 10:14 AM
What? I'll have to find a replay of the cheapshot...

Fuck Bruce Bowen, fuck Tony Parker, fuck Manu Ginobili, and fuck Robert Horry, and fuck Fabricio Oberto. I hate them all, the only player I respect is Duncan.

Glenn
05-16-2008, 10:39 AM
Check out this photo and caption: http://sports.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AmGivdSLC6y.v.JrforNZOHTjdIF

Great column, worth a read:


Horry leaves mark on West, Hornets
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

SAN ANTONIO – The bus bringing the New Orleans Hornets out of Game 6, out of angst and anger, grumbled near the back of the AT&T Center. Before climbing the steps, Byron Scott tugged out his iPod’s ear piece and considered the possibility that Robert Horry had turned into Cheap Shot Bob again.

The old man of these San Antonio Spurs had delivered a dubious blow to the bad back of the Hornets’ David West, and the coolest, calmest coach in the NBA was seething through that stoic disposition.

“I’m not real OK with it,” Scott told Yahoo! Sports. “But if I didn’t know Robert on a personal level, I’d say that was a dirty shot. Yeah, if I didn’t know him the way I know him, I’d say it was a cheap shot.”

Yes, he always liked Horry, but no one could convince Scott that West wasn’t a victim of a desperate shot by a desperate champion. The Hornets had been destroyed 99-80 in Game 6 on Thursday night, and still Scott and his players seethed over the blindsided screen Horry had leveled on West and his bad back.

“I also think he understood what he was doing,” Scott said.

Which was this: He had a chance to hit West, hit him hard and what were the odds that Horry was going to pass on it? Right, right. These are the Spurs, and they’re going to fight you to the ends of earth to take them out of the tournament. They’re the champs and they dictate terms of engagement.

So yes, Horry had a clear shot at the Hornet most responsible for pushing San Antonio to the brink in Game 5, and damn straight that Horry leaned into that screen and made sure the world watched West stagger to the locker room.

As West leaped to deflect a pass floating over him in the fourth quarter, his momentum thrust him backward toward Horry. Horry stiffened his arms and leaned into the small of West’s back. It warranted no flagrant, no ejection. He was instantaneous, a legitimate basketball play on some level, but it was cunning and cold-hearted, too.

“It was almost like when you see that blindside of a quarterback,” West said. “He just caught me really clean, and my guard was down, because I didn’t know anybody was behind me.”

West crumpled to the court, and lay on his stomach with his left arm reaching for his back. He has struggled with stiffness in the back for several days and had favored it Thursday night. There was a price to pay for his 38 points in Game 5. With it tightening again these past 48 hours, uneasy Hornets officials watching West struggle to simply unfurl his 6-foot-9 body into his bus seat for the ride from the team hotel. Everyone suspected this could be a difficult night for him.

As with the Hornets, West wasn’t himself. He missed 10 of 14 shots. Those 17-footers that he can make in his sleep were clanking on the rim. He had no lift, no explosion, no chance but to use the four days until Game 7 to get his back right again.

As for ill intentions of the play, when asked if it was intentional, Tyson Chandler said, “I wouldn’t doubt it.”

When West lay on the floor, the Hornets couldn’t believe what came next in the arena. At first, they doubted what they were hearing. As the trainer and coaches gathered around West, the Hornets’ Hilton Armstrong nudged Chris Paul and told him to listen closely.

They weren’t chanting … were they?

“Horry … Horry … Horry … ”

Yes.

Yes, they were.

Eighteen thousand seven hundred and ninety-seven could also see the bad intentions, too.

No one was angrier than Paul, who asked a Hornets official in the locker room: Did you hear that? As Paul walked down the corridors late Thursday, the crowd’s voice promised to stay on his mind. “When David got hurt, you’re going to chant for Robert Horry like he did a good thing?”

Just a year ago, Horry’s hip-check on Steve Nash triggered a reaction that cost the Phoenix Suns’ Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw suspensions. “That was the meanest thing I’ve ever seen,” a sarcastic Gregg Popovich said recently. Oh, how the Spurs have to come to revel in the image that between Horry and Bruce Bowen, they’ve somehow turned themselves into basketball’s silver and black.

Perhaps Horry’s done making clutch shots in the playoffs, but the seven-time champion forever finds ways to make himself relevant. Here’s his genius: He picked his spot brilliantly. This act didn’t border on a flagrant foul. There will be no fine, no suspension. Yet your eyes dictated a different truth, something that Scott said: Horry knew what he was doing. He knew whom he was hitting and where he was hitting him.

“I’ll take a look at it, but right now, I’ll just say he caught me with a good shot,” West said.

If Horry was trying to knock you out of Monday night, did it work?

“No … no,” West assured. “It wasn’t that good of a shot.”

Somehow, you just know the Spurs will make one final desperate run to hold off the inevitable: That eventually these young Hornets are going to overtake them in the Western Conference. Maybe this year, maybe next, but it’s coming and these Spurs understand they can’t hold back Paul and West and Chandler forever.

That’s not what they need to do now. Just one more game, one more night in New Orleans.

“They’ve got a lot of pride,” West said. “They’ve been doing this for a long, long time. But they know that we’re not going to back down .We’re going to attack them. The fact is they’ve won in the past, been through a lot of situations. We just have to do what we can to make them uncomfortable. We know how they’re going to come out. They’re going to bring it all.”

Before this series, Scott promised his players that beating the Spurs will be the hardest thing they’ve ever done in basketball. He declared them a dynasty that belongs with the Lakers and Celtics of the 1980s and the Chicago Bulls of the 1990s.

“They’re one of the greatest teams ever,” Scott said. “They’re our model. That’s who we want to be.”

Scott backed West, his star, but deep down he loves the way these Spurs are testing his Hornets. He still talks with such reverence about the ’80s in the NBA, like it was a faraway golden time that is so sadly lost in the modern league. Just last week, he was talking in his New Orleans office about how much tougher, how much nastier, playoff basketball was in those Lakers-Celtics Finals days

“Remember the McHale clothesline on Rambis,” he sniffed. “That was just two free throws.”

All that is so much of the reason why the Spurs have done this young New Orleans franchise the biggest favor of all: Taught them what it takes to contend, to compete for a championship, to dare topple a dynasty. As much as Scott was furious over that shot to West’s aching back, the Hornets coach understood there was nothing that he could ever tell him, tell his team, that substituted the pain that comes with this process.

Finally, the buses were ready to roll out of Game 6 on Thursday night, out of San Antonio, and Byron Scott started to climb the steps to his front seat. Finally, he said, “Now it’s a Game 7 and they’re going to test us even more so. This is the biggest thing that this team ever tried to do, maybe ever even imagined.”

As much as anything, the Spurs are holding onto dear life now. An old man with seven rings delivered David West to the deck on Thursday night, and this happened to be the start of Game 7 here: All hell breaking loose, all the way to a champ’s desperate last stand.

Higherwarrior
05-16-2008, 11:14 AM
wow- honestly i didn't even see the game or the shot. so i'm eager to see a replay and now i'm REALLY rooting for the hornets to knock the spurs out.

Glenn
05-16-2008, 11:21 AM
Keep in mind that everyone knows that West already has an existing back injury (pinched nerve).

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WTFchris
05-16-2008, 11:45 AM
wow- honestly i didn't even see the game or the shot. so i'm eager to see a replay and now i'm REALLY rooting for the hornets to knock the spurs out.

I didn't see the game, but saw the highlight on ESPN. It didn't look dirty to me. It just looked like a hard screen that caught him at a bad angle. I would be shocked to see any sort of suspension because you couldn't tell if there was intent there.

And this is coming from someone who is completely sick of the Spurs.

Higherwarrior
05-16-2008, 11:55 AM
thanks for that video....

it's certainly not the worst thing i've ever seen but it very clearly was a cheap shot. he didn't extend his forearms but he did deliver a bit of a body shot and leaned into the screen to deliver the shot, quite purposely.

nobody can really know the intent except horry i guess. i think if he was really trying to hurt him he could have done a lot worse. then again, maybe he thought a slightly less obvious and more subtle shot was the best thing to do. it's hard to know whether there was that intention or whether it was just a 'spur' of the moment thing- no pun intended.

doesn't look that bad to me but it might have in fact been a very calculated move, who knows. west seems determined to play and i'm sure the hornets will be seeking a bit of revenge, regardless....

DrRay11
05-16-2008, 12:21 PM
Gawd, I hope the Spurs lose...

Black Dynamite
05-16-2008, 12:28 PM
I didn't see the game, but saw the highlight on ESPN. It didn't look dirty to me. It just looked like a hard screen that caught him at a bad angle. I would be shocked to see any sort of suspension because you couldn't tell if there was intent there.

And this is coming from someone who is completely sick of the Spurs.
I agree, he did extend his arms or shove him. Legit foul imo. You guys are getting soft.

Timone
05-16-2008, 07:01 PM
Spurs fans are pricks for cheering, but Jazz fans are the worst from what I've read.

Glenn
05-19-2008, 12:43 PM
This series feels like it is done and fogotten already.

What a silly schedule.

Looking forward to it, nonetheless.

WTFchris
05-19-2008, 01:54 PM
Spurs fans are pricks for cheering, but Jazz fans are the worst from what I've read.

I could understand the cheering if Horry had taken out a villin (like MacCarty did to Lemieux), but why cheer him taking out West? I've never seen West taking cheap shots at anyone.

Glenn
05-19-2008, 04:32 PM
I'm pumped and I'm expecting great.

Wilfredo Ledezma
05-19-2008, 04:33 PM
I want the Spurs to win. I'm not a big fan of Lord Byron.

WTFchris
05-19-2008, 04:35 PM
I like syncronized flopping from Manu and Oberto. Also, TP's woman is hot and I'd like to see more of her. Who cares if TD whines at every call? (we're used to that here). Also, I like Will Smith even though he's a cheap shot artist. He does have like a trillion rings.

Glenn
05-19-2008, 04:36 PM
How can anyone's dislike for Byron Scott trump dislike for the Spurs?

Fool
05-19-2008, 04:39 PM
The Nets swept us.

Glenn
05-19-2008, 04:40 PM
Being a good coach doesn't make me hate Byron Scott.

BEFORE YOU POST IT- That doesn't mean that I don't hate good coaches.

WTFchris
05-19-2008, 04:41 PM
The Nets swept us.

Everyone knows that wasn't Byron's Fault. They had this guy:

http://static.flickr.com/12/69458752_e134a79524.jpg

CindyKate
05-19-2008, 04:43 PM
Now the celts do.

Black Dynamite
05-19-2008, 04:51 PM
How can anyone's dislike for Byron Scott trump dislike for the Spurs?
easy byron was a laker and a net. two teams worth of hate. but i do like chris paul.

DE
05-19-2008, 09:01 PM
Did CP just outflop Flopobili?

DE
05-19-2008, 11:07 PM
And now that it's over: Sorry Glen but I can't say I'm upset that SA won this one. I think a team should pay their dues in the playoffs in the NBA (God knows we sure did), and NO just hasn't done that. It's a fair outcome.

Tahoe
05-19-2008, 11:07 PM
Spurs = Not done!

BubblesTheLion
05-19-2008, 11:14 PM
In a strange twist of fate, we need the spurs to beat LA quickly if we want any shot at a fair ECF.

geerussell
05-19-2008, 11:15 PM
SA did a fine job of earning the privilege of losing to the Lakers.

Glenn
05-20-2008, 08:48 AM
That was disappointing.

The Hornets fell in love with the jumper and even though they got a ton of open looks, they just couldn't hit anything.

It seemed like there was a lid on the rim all night long.

The Spurs did enough to win, so credit where it is due.

I was wrong about them making the WCF.

Glenn
05-20-2008, 09:54 AM
Oh, and after last night, I think I am officially cured of Pargomania.

Black Dynamite
05-20-2008, 10:43 AM
http://a983.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/49/l_29e380c00194cda444c2b63f3b2564ae.jpg

Timone
05-21-2008, 03:11 PM
The Danza thing is older than Danzig himself.