Parcells hired the Cowboys Player Person guy Ireland for GM in Miami.

I wonder if he'll go after Jason Garrett to be his head coach next?

Somebody is going to hire Garrett, it might even be the Cowboys...

Raiders fire Rob Ryan.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/don_banks/01/05/shell/t1_ryan.jpg

That's Buddy's son, right?

He'll be the new DC for the Jets, btw.

He seems like he's a free spirit.

I don't know if the Raiders made the right move. That guy has a crazy friend...

http://www.kaplink.net/7610/archives/pics/lebowski1.jpg

gahahaha

Crazy would be putting it lightly, Zip

L-LrjZL7bHs

Love that movie. It's in my Top 5, though I think at times it tries to hard to be cool, yet irreverent.

I've been told I have a body like Donnie's.

and bukdow is a pederast.

A pederast who reads Smithsonian? Well, I'll be damned!

And Harper's.

He DID say Harper's was like PBS. Barney is on PBS.

Shocking.


Dolphins fire Cameron after 1-15 season

By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer
January 3, 2008

DAVIE, Fla. (AP) -- Cam Cameron was fired as the Miami Dolphins' coach Thursday by new boss Bill Parcells after plunging to an 0-13 start in his first year on the job and finishing with just one victory.

The dismissal comes three days after Parcells ousted general manager Randy Mueller and means the reeling franchise will have its fifth coach in five seasons.

Parcells began work Dec. 27 as executive vice president of football operations and quickly concluded the Dolphins need another fresh start.

It has been 37 years since the Dolphins fired a coach. But they never finished 1-15 before.

All but two members of Cameron's coaching staff were also fired, although some might be rehired by the new head coach, the Dolphins said. Retained were assistant special teams coach Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach George Edwards.

Parcells made the decision to fire Cameron in consultation with new general manager Jeff Ireland, hired Wednesday after seven years in player personnel with the Dallas Cowboys.

"We just felt in order to move forward and not look back, we needed someone in place who shared the same philosophical compatibilities we shared," Ireland said. "We didn't really know the guy that well. We were going to try to get someone that does share those things, and we weren't completely sold that he did."

Ireland said the philosophy he and Parcells share involves creating a culture of winning.

"We want strong character around here," Ireland said. "The vision of the team will be discipline, passionate players, highly competitive. And we'll be a big team."

Ireland said he'll have final say regarding all player personnel decisions.

The early front-runner to replace Cameron is another Cowboys employee, assistant head coach Tony Sparano. He's scheduled to interview Friday for the head coaching vacancy in Atlanta.

Ireland said plans for the coaching search were still being formulated.

"We're going to try to make a quick decision, but we don't have a timetable," Ireland said. "We'll have a broad range of candidates. We'll look into every possibility."

Less than a year ago, owner Wayne Huizenga hired Cameron over at least 12 other candidates after a two-week search, the most extensive since the franchise's first season in 1966.

Cameron was on the job 11 months before he earned his first victory as an NFL head coach. Until Miami beat Baltimore in overtime Dec. 16, he was in danger of becoming the first coach to go 0-16.

Miami has missed the playoffs six consecutive seasons, a franchise record.

Other coaches, including some good ones, have been fired after only one season with a team. The list includes Cameron mentor Marty Schottenheimer (Washington in 2001), Art Shell (Oakland in 2006) and Pete Carroll (New York Jets in 1994).

Cameron, who was under contract through 2010, maintained a consistently low-key demeanor with the media and his team. The approach won praise from the locker room during training camp, but as losses mounted, players became coy when asked if they believed in Cameron.

He was hired after five years as offensive coordinator for the high-scoring San Diego Chargers, and the Dolphins' offense improved early in the season. But when John Beck became the third starter at quarterback this year, the unit failed to score a touchdown in three consecutive games, and the rookie returned to the bench.

Cameron took over a team that had gone 19-29 the previous three years and was in decline following a series of bad drafts. Poor depth made this season's wave of injuries catastrophic.

Running back Ronnie Brown led the league in yards from scrimmage when he was sidelined for the season by a knee injury, and Trent Green and linebacker Zach Thomas also went on injured reserve. When 2002 NFL rushing champion Ricky Williams returned from a suspension, he lasted only six carries before a chest injury ended his season.

In addition, top receiver Chris Chambers was traded after six games.

The coach's office became a revolving door in 2004, when Dave Wannstedt quit after nine games and was replaced by Jim Bates. Nick Saban became the coach in 2005 but lasted only two years before leaving for Alabama. He was succeeded by Cameron.

Seven coaches started a season with a team that went 1-15, and only two returned the following year. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first season in Dallas in 1989 but soon was winning Super Bowls, and Mike Riley remained with San Diego despite winning only once in 2000.

Cameron's only other head coaching job was at Indiana, where he was fired after five seasons. His career record as a head coach is 19-52.

Umm, so ESPN just said Rob Ryan is returning next season. After they reported they fired him?

Brady won MVP, with 49/50 votes. Favre had the only other vote.

I'm stunned.

Losman wants out of Buffalo.

Gibbs to retire.

I can understand that. This season probably took a huge toll on him. Wonder how that will affect the team.

His multi-million dollare assistants will be fine.

49ers hired Martz.

Alex Smith, have fun with that.

The Falcons are pursuing Pete Carroll for the head coaching job.

Richard Gere, I mean Pete, would be dumb to take it (and you know he won't).

I hope for his own sake he doesn't. He's proven that he's a great college coach, but he's not a pro coach. Stick with college.

I hope they punish USC after he leaves for all of the fucking infractions they've had...

Richard is expected to talk with the Falcons.

It is said that Blanke may be willing to give full control to Carroll.

Honestly, this would be a dumb decision. It's not like you're inheriting a team that even looks like they're ready to contend.

I thought that they were going to hire Mike Singletary?

This is a move that I would have expected out of Daniel Snyder/Redskins.

I'm shocked that Blank is so willing to go back to a college coach after the Petrino debacle.

Also, I hope Snyder doesn't target Cowher, because that might be a job that he'd consider.

I'm shocked that Blank is so willing to go back to a college coach after the Petrino debacle.

Agreed.

I still think Carroll's going to say no.

I don't think "Richard" is going to catch on as a nickname for Pete Carroll.

I might be wrong.

So I'm the only one who thinks he looks like Richard Gere?

So I'm the only one who thinks he looks like Richard Gere?


He may look like him, but the nickname won't stick, IMO.

Now if you went with a gerbil reference of some kind...

LA or ATL...what a tough decision.

Now if you went with a gerbil reference of some kind...

HA!

There is something I like about Pete though (AND NO, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GERBILS).

p.s. ALPACAS!

The reason I could see Blank going for Carroll is that Carroll has already won it all at USC. Seriously, nothing shy of 5 straight championships is going to top his current situation. Meanwhile, for a guy like Petrino, he didn't win jack in college and could obviously be lured away by the chance to win again without a salary cap.
BTW, I think Carroll WILL stay at USC, because he has the roster to actually go ahead with that 5 straight championships thing.

I'd rather keep dominating in college and end up (possibly) being considered one of the best college coaches than jump to the pros and make a fool of myself with an organization like the Falcons.

He already considered one of the best, if not the best, in college.

I happen to disagree and think Rich Rodriguez is the best, but hey...that's me.

This is where Zip tells us that Carroll would be crazy to leave USC because of all the hot chicks he's banging.

If Zip knew how to read the NFL forum, he's bukdowesque in that regard.

Also, I hope Snyder doesn't target Cowher, because that might be a job that he'd consider.

A friggin micro-nano seond in a microwave after I read that Gibbs retired, Cowher came to mind.

Pete Carroll to Baltimore, per my imagination.

By the way, put me on record as thinking Pete Carroll would be mediocre at best in the NFL.
As a coach, he's already mediocre. As a recruiter and motivator, he's outstanding.
Give him Michigan State's roster and he doesn't win 9 games.
He has boosters, LA, hot chicks, and history on his side. Pull in his recruiting classes, give them free homes for their families, and anyone with an open mind for new ideas can win a crapload of games there.

Give Carroll a salary cap and a roster he can't turn out in 2 years time and he's screwed.

By the way, put me on record as thinking Pete Carroll would be mediocre at best in the NFL.
As a coach, he's already mediocre. As a recruiter and motivator, he's outstanding.
Give him Michigan State's roster and he doesn't win 9 games.
He has boosters, LA, hot chicks, and history on his side. Pull in his recruiting classes, give them free homes for their families, and anyone with an open mind for new ideas can win a crapload of games there.

Give Carroll a salary cap and a roster he can't turn out in 2 years time and he's screwed.


God couldn't win 9 games with MSU's roster. :)
Justafriendlyjabtosparty

Maybe not God, but Rod?

You bet your ass.

Would Rod beat Pittsburgh with State though?

Just kidding...Pittsburgh cheated their asses off.

Jim Caldwell withdraws his name from consideration for the Falcons job.

Does he know if Dungy plans to retire...?

Ravens hire John Harbaugh, assistant for the Eagles, as head coach.

Only problem is Rod would only coach them for a little while before leaving and shredding single copies of files that 200 people have hard copies of, not to mention the digital files.
If Dungy was Rod he would have shredded the Lombardi Trophy and a Peyton Manning rookie card.

Harbaugh had been interviewed for the UCLA gig. Not sure the exact reason it didn't happen, but there was talk of the brother against brother battle in the Pac 10.

Jets hire Bill Callahan as Assistant Head Coach.

there was talk of the brother against brother battle in the Pac 10.

The Pac 10 is obviously jealous of the Big Ten.

If you know what I mean.

Glenn, you are the man....today.

I fucking hate this Brett Favre retirement watch. It started already. Every friggin off-season.

I think he actually might. Even though the last thing we'd remember him for would be throwing that INT in OT.

"We" as in you guys. Not me. I'll always remember Brett for everything he's done to help protect our freedom.

I'll remember him for the jeans....
Most because he'll still be pushing them when he's 90

by Baltimore Ravens,,

There are conflicting reports regarding former Dolphins head coach and the Ravens vacant offensive coordinator position. ESPN' s Len Pasquarelli is reporting the Ravens and Cameron have agreed in principle to a deal. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3210229) However, no official confirmation from the Baltimore Ravens has been made.

My sources say, Cameron and the Ravens are MEETING RIGHT NOW so a deal may or may not have been struck. It also could be that Pasquarelli's report is true, they are just finalizing the deal. I'll will let you all know when I hear more.

Though i'd take him over the lions owners every day of the week, Davis is going Mad.

Raiders coach refuses to heed Davis' call to resign

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com
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Updated: January 25, 2008, 4:35 PM ET

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Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis has been pushing for Lane Kiffin to resign as his head coach and is considering Dennis Green as a potential replacement, sources close to Kiffin and the team said.

Davis has gone so far to draft a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, a source said. Kiffin has refused to do so but has dared Davis to fire him instead. The letter, the source said, was sent to Kiffin two weeks ago.

Lane Kiffin

Kiffin

Kiffin, who was 4-12 in his first season as coach, has two years remaining on his contract at an estimated $2 million per year.

In the letter sent to Kiffin's legal representatives, sources said Davis stated that only he would have control over his staff and full personnel decisions. According to a source close to Kiffin, Davis had promised Kiffin when he hired him that he would have more control over staff and personnel matters than recent Raiders coaches. Kiffin was allowed fire offensive assistants and to name his own staff when he took the job after the 2006 season.

"I'm not going to comment on anything that has transpired in the past three weeks," Kiffin said from Mobile, Ala., where he and the Raiders staff are coaching the North team in the Under Armour Senior Bowl college all-star game.

The Raiders had no immediate comment.

Kiffn and Davis clashed near the conclusion of their postseason evaluation meetings when Kiffin expressed his desire to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, a source said. Ryan himself wanted out to join the New York Jets in a similar capacity, but the Raiders released a statement asking for speculation to cease about the defensive coordinator's future.

Just this week at the Senior Bowl, Kiffin and Ryan both said their relationship was fine and expected to be coaching the team in 2008. However, Davis has not rescinded his request for Kiffin to step down, a source said.

As for Green's candidacy, while team sources said Davis has reached out to the veteran coach, Green said Friday, "I haven't really talked to Al about any coaching job but, really, how many times has my name been mentioned every time something goes on with the Raiders?"

The Raiders will interview James Lofton on Monday for a job, a source said. The Raiders are looking for a wide receivers coach and Lofton was recently fired as San Diego's receivers coach. However, Lofton has interviewed in the past to be head coach of the Raiders.

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.
:emo kid:

I feel like McGrady in my sig.

Could the Raiders beat Appy State?

The Lions would have been smart to wait on this stupid Kippy/Colletto thing.

Al Saunders or Kiffin would have made very good OC's.


The Lions would have been smart

Which is why they didn't wait.

Someday all the Fords and Millens will be dead and there will be zero sad Lions fans.

There's about zero Lions fans right now.

Al Saunders or Kiffin would have made very good OC's.
Kiffin aint going anywhere cold. book it. Honestly he isnt going anywhere period unless he's fired and Al Davis is too penny pinching to fire him and pay him(which is why he didnt fire Rob Ryan, causing this alleged possible rift). I'm guessing as stubborn as Kiff is, he'll be here atleast one more season rather than give the satisfaction of quitting.

Ravens rumored to have been talking with the Eagles about a trade that would send McNabb to Baltimore. Meh. True or not, I am not a McNabb fan, but it would be a significant upgrade over Steve "Checkdown" McNair and Kyle Boller.

Oh and Troy...hahahaha...Troy...lmao...Troy Smith. LMFAO

“I’ll be ready come cook-off time,” Joey Harrington promised Rachael Ray on her show Friday. And, looking sharp in a No. 13 apron, Joey cooked up a mess of baby back ribs and a mashed potato-corn side dish (crediting his wife, Emily, for the recipe).

But N.Y. Giants great Ottis Anderson’s fried chicken and secret dipping sauces won Rachael’s “Super Bowl Recipe Playoff” — judged by Iron Chef Mario Batali -- also beating out Jets offensive tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson’s crab cakes and BLT dip.

One quick going-to-commercial clip showed Harrington and Anderson clashing in the kitchen over a spatula or something. “This one’s mine,” Joey said. “Yours hit the floor.” Harrington must have passed it to him...

Redskins interested in trading for Chad Johnson.

He'd definitely fill a need for them.

Zach Thomas visited with the Patriots...

Bears release Muhsin Muhammad. There was also talks about them shipping Bernard Berrian, possibly to Oakland.

Zach Thomas visited with the Patriots...
Big surprise. They're the team to go to if your career is winding down and you're chasing a ring apparently.

Franchise tags:

Ravens: Terrell Suggs
Colts: Dallas Clark

Anyone else?

Franchise tags:

Ravens: Terrell Suggs
Colts: Dallas Clark

Anyone else?


Bengals: Stacy Andrews
Chiefs: Jared Allen
Titans: Albert Haynesworth

I can't think of anymore...

Giants talking with Falcons about trading their first round pick for DeAngelo Hall.

^D-Hall has said that he definitely won't be back next year.

The Cowboys sign Zach Thomas and the Bear's re-sign Rex.

the Bear's re-sign Rex.

Uhh, wtf?

They have no other option at QB so they had to re-sign Rex. It's a one year deal anyway.

They're going to draft a QB first anyway methinks.

Read a rumor that Moss could be going to the Cowboys.

Moss and Owens on the same team, with Romo passing it to them? That would be an unstoppable passing game as long as the O-Line holds up (this is assuming they resign TO, which they probably wouldn't do if they got Moss)

Romo would still find a way to break UxKa's heart.

I miss UxKa.

Jonathon(sp?) Vilma was granted by the Jets to negotiate trade talks with any team in the L...........except the Pats.

You gotta love the lowly and bitter.

Rosevelt Colvin released by NE, Kevin Faulk busted for weed posession.

No way...someone in the NFL smokes a lil weed now an then? I find that hard to believe.

Chiefs release Ty Law.

Moose is also a Panther again.

Saints, among other teams, talking with New York about Shockey.

Griese gets sent back to the Bucs:


The Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi), who re-signed Rex Grossman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6358) and gave Kyle Orton (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7282) a contract extension, traded backup Brian Griese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4322) to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=tam) for an undisclosed draft choice.
Griese left the Buccaneers two seasons ago when he signed a five-year contract with Chicago. The 32-year-old Griese started six games in two seasons with the Bears, compared to 16 starts in two seasons with the Bucs.
The Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) selected Griese in the third round of the 1998 NFL draft. He was with Denver for five seasons and also played one season for the Dolphins.

ATLANTA -- The Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl) released quarterback Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5889) on Wednesday, leaving the team with only two quarterbacks as it prepares to address the position in the NFL draft.
The Falcons also cut veteran quarterback Byron Leftwich (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6343) last month.
The release of Harrington may increase the chances the team will take a quarterback, perhaps Matt Ryan (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2008&id=11586), with the No. 3 overall selection in the draft.
Ryan, from Boston College, is widely considered the top quarterback in the draft.
The Falcons re-signed Chris Redman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5104) to a two-year deal last week, but the only other quarterbacks on the roster are D.J. Shockley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7972) and Michael Vick (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5448). Shockley has never played in a regular-season game and Vick is serving a 23-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation.
Vick also is serving an indefinite suspension imposed by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
Shockley, a 2006 seventh-round pick from Georgia, missed last season with a knee injury.
The 29-year-old Harrington played in 12 games with 10 starts last season. He completed 215 of 348 passes for 2,215 yards with seven touchdowns and eight interceptions. He set a career high by completing 61.8 percent of his passes, but the Falcons were only 3-7 in his starts.

Falcons to trade Deangelo Hall to the Raidas for a 2nd round pick.

I still can't believe how little teams can get for proven players. 1st round picks from 4 years ago who have proven themselves go for 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that haven't proven a thing. Crazy.

Falcons to trade Deangelo Hall to the Raidas for a 2nd round pick.


Per RotoWorld, that report is no longer true...per DeAngelo Hall's agent

Per RotoWorld, that report is no longer true...per DeAngelo Hall's agent

Still on ESPN.com's front page.


Source: Falcons to trade Hall for Raiders' second-round pick in '08 draft
ESPN.com news services

Updated: March 15, 2008, 9:34 PM ET

The Atlanta Falcons have reached an agreement in principle with the Oakland Raiders to trade cornerback DeAngelo Hall for the Raiders' second-round pick in the 2008 draft, pending the Raiders finalizing a contract with Hall, a source close to the Falcons told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

While a Raiders source said Hall and the team are nearing an agreement on a contract, the source close to Hall said there is "still a lot of work to get it done."

The Raiders source said the deal is expected to pay Hall just below what Asante Samuel signed with the Eagles. Samuel signed a six-year deal worth a reported $57 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

Hall, a former first-rounder taken with the eighth pick in the 2004 draft, would be paired with Nnamdi Asomugha, giving Oakland one of the top tandems in the game.

The move would also provide insurance if Asomugha were to leave as a free agent following next season. The Raiders placed the exclusive franchise tag on Asomugha, guaranteeing him at least $9.465 million in 2008. They still would like to sign him to a long-term deal.

If the deal goes through, the Raiders would have only one draft pick in the first three rounds. Oakland picks fourth in the opening round and traded its third-round pick last year to New England for a pick used to draft offensive lineman Mario Henderson.

RotoWorld:


Falcons CB DeAngelo Hall refuted an ESPN report that he will be traded to the Raiders.

"Somebody's throwing something out there," Hall told the Atlanta Journal Constitution on Saturday afternoon. Neither Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff nor Hall's agent have returned phone calls.

its back on thanks to Al Demanding that it happen. dont like giving up the picks and we still need more help up front. but he is a quality CB. not as good as he thinks. but solid.

Didn't know where else to put this, so I stuck it in here. The higherups can move it if needed:


As Long As We're Making Up Rules...

You probably heard that the futile attempt of the head coaches and general managers (read: the Chicago Bears) to pass a rule preventing punting out of bounds was overwhelmingly rejected. I'm sure some top league officials see some lost entertainment value in the strategic game of pinning teams deep inside their own twenty and preventing showy returns from stars like Devin Hester, but gimme a break. This is a key part of playing the field position game. It's maybe the stupidest attempt at a rule change I have heard in years.

BUT... As long as we are in the process of making up new rules, we have a few we would like to pass as well. These are all in the interest of the game of course.

1) Anytime a wide receiver does a stupid touchdown dance, the lights will go down, disco lights will come on, and Barry Manilow's "Looks Like We Made It" will play over the loudspeaker. Then, that wide receiver should get punched in the crotch by his teammates and sent home for being gay. Could not agree more!

2) Intentional grounding is totally legal if you A) hit a cheerleader in the face or B) hit a drink vendor in the stands.

3) Coaches should not be allowed to change starting running backs between July and September unless there is a season-ending injury. Also, Mike Shannahan should not be allowed more than one running back on the team at any given time. Finally, Tatum Bell should be kicked out of the league for good, because he sucks and kills too many fantasy teams.

4) Punters will earn 4 points for making a tackle and 1 point for taking on a blocker.

5) If there is a moment in a game coming up where a team obviously needs a timeout, they should be allowed to prearrange said timeout. It's not that complicated; there is a giant press box full of officials wired up to communicate to people on the field. Why can't one of them receive the instructions, "We would like a time out after the next play?" The jumping around like ape-men making hand gestures is a little old-fashioned at this point.

6) Matt Millen should not be allowed to use a phone, microphone, walkie-talkie, blackberry, or computer on draft weekend. Just lock his fat ass in a room with a giant bag full of Big Montanas and unlock him on Monday morning.
:cogent:

7) Should a team score a touchdown on the Reverse Fake Z-Post from Super Tecmo Bowl, the score will become automatically tied, regardless of the previous deficit.

8) Any time a mule, Irish soccer player, or super model kicks a field goal, the opposing team must count to "7 apple" before bringing the rush.

9) The Super Bowl will never, ever, under any circumstances be played on a night before a work or school day - especially a Sunday you God-hating bastards.

10) When referring to black quarterbacks, all announcers should be forced to say "jive turkey" instead of "athletic quarterback," because it's painfully obvious that is what they are thinking anyway.
http://ghostsofwaynefontes.blogspot.com/

Does anyone else see D. Hall going to the Raiders, just being part of his path to a room next to Vick?

Marvin Harrison allegedly involved in shooting.

If these stories are true...quiet lil Marvin Harrison is fucking BADASS!.

Marvin owns a bar up in Philly. Why would this millionaire need to own a bar? Its in a rough part of town. Playmakers is the name of the bar

He beat the shit out of this guy and someone said Marvin has hands like a Ninja.

I guess MH followed the guy out to his car and gun shots were exchanged.

Wow.

There have a been a lot of "heroes" falling from grace, lately.

Did you see Mike and Mike? Mike was saying that Roger going down is only second to OJ. Mike thought Vick should be in there, but Mike said he wasn't a Mega-Star type yet. Mike then agreed.

Interesting topic.

Not in any order...

Pete Rose
OJ
Vick
Remember that WR from Carolina?
Rocket

Report: Harrison investigated in shooting outside bar

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Updated: May 2, 2008, 5:19 PM ET

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Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his hometown of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place earlier this week, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of Philadelphia's WIP Radio.

The shooting reportedly occurred early Tuesday afternoon outside a North Philadelphia bar owned by Harrison.

Harrison has yet to be arrested or charged with the crime. Police spokesman Sgt. Ray Evers had no comment Friday.

"I just walked off the practice field [at rookie minicamp] and heard about the incident, and that's all I know," Colts coach Tony Dungy said Friday. "We're obviously going to look into it. I haven't spoken to Marvin yet."

Calls by ESPN to Harrison and his agent have not been returned. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league was "aware of the report, and we are looking into it."

The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet.

Marvin Harrison

Harrison
Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun.

Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.

The source said police were contacted Friday by an attorney representing a second alleged victim in the shooting, and police are now waiting for that individual to come forward.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829

He better have proof the guy fired at him first. Not for the sake of jail time, but the sake of his career.

Rae Carruth was the WR from Carolina.

I think I've always figured Harrison was a Dumars type. Soft spoken, gets the job done, quietly becomes a Pro-Bowler. This is crazy.

The crazy thing about Vick is that he got locked up for killing animals, but a ton of these guys that put effort into killing other humans don't ever pay a price for it.

From what I gathered, the police don't think he fired the shots, just that it was his gun. The legal guy I was listening to said in PA, if you own a gun that is used in a crime you are have some culpibility.

I like MH, hopefully this will all go away.

So the league cancelled the CBA.

one of things that might come of this is 1 more regular season game, 17 total and 1 less preseason.

Sounds ok to me. Then again, we get to get disapointed another Sunday this winter.

Stu's from Saginaw and played at my (and Jethro's) alma mater.


Raiders release S Schweigert
Associated Press

Updated: May 20, 2008, 7:20 PM ET

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders released safety Stuart Schweigert on Tuesday, cutting ties with a former starter who lost his job late last season.

Schweigert, a third-round pick out of Purdue in 2004, became the starter at free safety midway through his second season in Oakland and started 37 consecutive games before being replaced last season.

Schweigert lost his job to Hiram Eugene when he was forced to miss a game with an injured calf and then played as a backup in the final five contests of the season.

Schweigert struggled at times last season as a run-stopper and the Raiders set out to improve their tackling at safety this offseason by signing Gibril Wilson from the Super Bowl champion New York Giants.

Wilson lined up mostly as a strong safety during last week's practice open to the media, with former first-round pick Michael Huff shifting to his more natural position of free safety. That left little room for Schweigert, who missed the open practice with a leg injury.

Schweigert had 215 tackles and four interceptions in 63 games with the Raiders. He also had 20 passes defensed, four fumble recoveries and two forced fumbles.

Stu was a perfect fit for the Raiders, too.

I mean, being one of the most well-known kids in Saginaw Township and yet thinking he could slip a fake ID to a cop when he was drunk and got pulled over, classic stuff.
Then several issues with alcohol in college - had him ranked as one of the riskiest picks that year, based on off-field stuff. He and Charles Rogers graduated the same year, had some classic showdowns on the field and in track. Both drastic underachievers, much impacted by drugs and alcohol. Sad. Saginaw.

Per RotoWorld...


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins will trade Jason Taylor if and only if they're offered a second-round draft choice.



Now maybe I'm underscoring the true value of a 2nd round draft pick, but given the shit we've drafted in the 2nd round the last decade (Shaun Cody, Teddy Lehman, Boss Bailey, Ikaika Alama-Francis, Gerald Alexander, Daniel Bullocks, Drew Stanton, etc.) wouldn't it seem like a steal if the Lions coughed up a 2nd round pick, and got a Pro Bowl pass rusher like Taylor??

I mean honestly, not that I think we're actually going to contend this year, but he makes us better team. We're going to be starting Jared fucking DeVries at DE this year, and he will probably get about 3 sacks and a forced fumble...

Again, maybe I'm just clueless as to how sacred a 2nd round pick is around the league, but having known how our 2nd round picks have been developing, and how easily we seem to acquire 2nd round picks (somehow we had 3 in '07), I don't see why the Lions, or anyother team for that matter, wouldn't consider making that move...

Somebody explain that to me, why is a 2nd round pick that valuable?? Odds are that player isn't going to be as good as Jason Taylor...

Nobody is going to offer a 2nd rounder when Taylor said he'd like to play one more season. If someone's going to throw a 2nd at him they want another 2-3 years out of him at least.

Stu's from Saginaw and played at my (and Jethro's) alma mater.


You went to Purdue?

Yes.

Saginaw High? ...they used to kick our ass in Basketball.

Nope. Saginaw High is on the east side of the city. Arthur Hill west side. Even further west, in Saginaw Township, is Heritage: home of Glenn, Jethro and Stu Schweigart. West of that? Thomas Township and Swan Valley High School: home of DreTre, Moodini, Wizzle, FillyCheese, Jickboy....um, other names that can't be spoken (KO).

Bay City Central played Saginaw High, but I don't remember playing any of the others. My cuz lives right by Tri City Airport, thats not far from west Sag twnshp. Actually I think she lives in Saginaw Twnshp and so is the airpot, the more I think about it. I think Hotchkiss is the line and she lives south of that.

Tahoe, Heritage wasn't around when you lived here.

Douglas MacArthur and Dwight Eisenhower merged on the old Eisenhower campus and changed the name to Heritage.

GD...Its a good thing they weren't around back when I was in HS or they would have went down at least 2 BBall games, Football games, and Baseball games a year.

the airport is in Tittabawassee Township

back on topic......Strahan is calling it a career

One of the worst moments in sports is when Favre gave him that gift record breaking sack

He'll be back after training camp, lol

Benson has been cut by the Bears. What are the chances of KJ ending up there and killing us twice a year? They drafted a RB, but he's a speed burner and probably not a feature back.

Benson has been cut by the Bears. What are the chances of KJ ending up there and killing us twice a year? They drafted a RB, but he's a speed burner and probably not a feature back.

I was actually wondering if the Lions would look at Benson.

I wonder if the Bears will call Shaun Alexander?

the airport is in Tittabawassee Township

continuing the georgraphy lesson, but in Sag Co?

Yes, north end of Saginaw Co. Pretty much in Auburn/Freeland, just south of both Midland and Bay counties. At least, I think that's true.

continuing the georgraphy lesson, but in Sag Co?

yes

Benson has been cut by the Bears. What are the chances of KJ ending up there and killing us twice a year? They drafted a RB, but he's a speed burner and probably not a feature back.



The Chicago Tribune is reporting that ex-Detroit Lions running back Kevin Jones is hoping to hear from the Chicago Bears, who just cut their running back, Cedric Benson, but still have second-round pick Matt Forte.
Jones, who spoke with Lions Insider Tom Kowalski a couple of weeks ago, is recovering from knee surgery.

Chicago Tribune, June 11: (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080610-running-back-chicago-bears,0,3997904.story) Jones, a former first-round pick of the Detroit Lions, hopes to hear from the Bears, according to a source close to the player. Jones' agent, Blake Baratz, did not return a message Tuesday. His client has worked out for New England and Tennessee this off-season without striking a deal. Jones, released by the Lions in March, will hold a personal workout for scouts June 28 in Saline, Mich., to prove he is fully recovered from a torn ligament in his right knee, suffered in last season's home finale against the Chiefs.

Yes, north end of Saginaw Co. Pretty much in Auburn/Freeland, just south of both Midland and Bay counties. At least, I think that's true.

I must admit, I never thought I'd hear Aubun mentioned on these boards.

re:#122

:cogent:

Jared Lorenzen, cut today by the Giants...

fattest QB ever, but at least he has a ring

Kevin Jones leaning toward Chicago (http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/07/kevin_jones_leaning_toward_chi.html)

by Tom Kowalski Tuesday July 15, 2008, 11:28 AM


It appears the Detroit Lions are going to see Kevin Jones again.
Jones, the former Lions running back, flew to Chicago last night and is taking a physical today. According to a source close to the situation, he's leaning very strongly toward signing with the Bears and a deal could be done as early as today.


WTFtranslator = WTFchris was dead on.

Bears, RB Jones agree to one-year deal
Associated Press
Updated: July 15, 2008, 2:45 PM ET

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- The Chicago Bears signed running back Kevin Jones to a one-year deal on Tuesday.

During four years with Detroit, Jones rushed for 3,067 yards and 24 touchdowns on 761 carries. Jones, who played for Virginia Tech, was drafted by Detroit in 2004.

Terms of Jones' deal were not disclosed.

Last season, Jones rushed for 581 yards and a career-high eight touchdowns on 153 carries. He also had 32 receptions for 197 yards.

Benson has been cut by the Bears. What are the chances of KJ ending up there and killing us twice a year? They drafted a RB, but he's a speed burner and probably not a feature back.

I hate being right sometimes. I look forward to getting pounded by the Bears this year on the ground.

Jones is gassed.

^he'll never be a feature back (will get hurt again). But I bet he tears off a couple 150 yard games, probably against us.

Of course, beating the crap out of the Lions isn't really a chore most seasons.

NFL hiring experts to spot gang signals
Concerned that some of its players are flashing signals related to street gangs, the National Football League has hired experts to examine game tapes and identify the hand gestures, a newspaper reported Wednesday.

"There have been some suspected things we've seen," NFL vice president of security Milt Ahlerich told the Los Angeles Times. "When we see it, we quietly jump on it immediately, directly with the team and the player or employee involved to cease and desist. Period."

Ahlerich says the NFL has long warned its players about the influence of gangs. Concern intensified after Denver Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams was gunned down following an altercation involving known gang members in 2007.

The concern was raised with first-year players at the recent rookie symposium, and a video on the dangers of gangs was shown to every player in the league last year.

"Guys come from all over the country, and who knows what they're really doing?" Jacksonville Jaguars receiver Dennis Northcutt told the paper


I'd love to know how they got their hands on these "experts"

Sources: Giants to trade Shockey to Saints
by Jay Glazer
Jeremy Shockey has finally gotten his wish.
The Giants have agreed to trade their disgruntled tight end to the New Orleans Saints for a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick, FOXSports.com has learned. The deal is pending league approval, according to a league source. Shockey must also pass a physical.

The compensation is the same the Saints offered New York back in April prior and during to the draft ... and it was turned down.

The move comes one day after Jason Taylor was traded from Miami to New York's NFC East rivals in Washington. According to a report on SI.com, the Giants had held discussions about a three-team trade in which they would have ended up with Taylor, the Saints would have landed Shockey and the Dolphins would have received a pair of draft picks.

The emergence of rookie Kevin Boss during the Giants' improbable Super Bowl run — a stretch Shockey missed due to a broken leg — made Shockey expendable. Boss started six games after Shockey's injury (two regular season and all four during the Giants' postseason run), making nine catches for 140 yards and a TD.

Shockey's attitude made the move somewhat necessary as the Giants sought to avoid distractions from their bid to repeat as Super Bowl champions.

During the team's recent minicamp, Shockey reportedly engaged in a shouting match with GM Jerry Reese, just the latest controversy involving the outspoken former first-round pick out of the University of Miami.

Shockey's absence in Phoenix during the Super Bowl was conspicuous to say the least. According to some reports, one of the many sources of Shockey's displeasure with the team was that he was not allowed to stand on the team's sidelines during the game.

In the past, Shockey also had less-than-complimentary things to say about his quarterback, Eli Manning. In fact, many have theorized that Manning's transformation from a middle-of-the-pack quarterback to a Super Bowl MVP was facilitated by Shockey's absence.

I hate Shockey the personality, but he's a very good player.

If the Saints can straighten him out, they'll be happy with him, IMO.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/shockeyshocked.gif

I still lol.

The Titans released BMW.

Mike Shanahan promised that the Broncos will make the playoffs this year.

Can he promise me which of his RB's will rush for 1,000 yards? Probably someone not even on their current roster.
My bet - we release Artose Pinner during camp, Broncos pick him up and he rushes for 1,200 and 9 TD.

There's a good kicker available:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3531243

^ Read that earlier and knew this had the Big Tuna written all over it.

May be useful if this Hanson injury is more than they're letting on so far.

LOL@the Bears


Orton named Bears' starting quarterback
Associated Press
Updated: August 18, 2008, 4:36 PM ET

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Kyle Orton will start as the Chicago Bears opening day quarterback -- beating Rex Grossman in a competition that lasted through training camp and two preseason games.

The Bears open the regular season Sept. 7 against the Indianapolis Colts.

Orton started 15 games in 2005 and three last season. He's thrown for more than 2,300 yards and 12 touchdowns in his career.

Grossman led the Bears to the Super Bowl after the 2006 season but has often been criticized for committing turnovers. He has 30 career starts, with 31 TD passes and 33 interceptions.

LOL@the Bears

LOL @ the Lions when they lose to Orton and the Bears.

You had to go and say it. We were all thinking it but you had to go and put it out there. Damn you MoTown. Damn you. Because of you, I'm gonna go hassle the Hoff.

He's waiting for you:

http://celebslam.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/david-hasselhoff-puppies.jpg

The fact that that puppies ass is on his crotch creeps me out.

time to celebrate
http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2008/08/medium_2005-kyle-orton-and-jack-daniels.jpg

I told you guys we saw him with jack bottle service (who the hell gets bottle service for jack???) with a bunch of other Bears back in his rooke year, right? He was eventually seen in the bathroom by my friend banging his head against a brick wall.

^^^ Purdue education.

I am totally shocked that Strahan is considering coming out of retirement.

DeShawn Wynn got cut by the Packers, he was like a fantasy stud for two weeks last year...

Merriman to play despite 2 torn ligaments
by Jay Glazer

It appears the Chargers will have their main defensive lightning bolt after all.

Pro Bowl defensive end Shawne Merriman has informed the team that he will play this season despite having two torn knee ligaments, Merriman told FOXSports.com.

"I know what's at stake," Merriman said Wednesday. "But I had a goal with the team before the season started, and I'm sticking to it."

When asked how sure he was about playing, Merriman replied, "100 percent."

Merriman has a torn PCL and LCL in his left knee, but has postponed the surgery necessary to deal with those issues. He sought the opinion of several noted specialists in the last week. While all of them recommended surgery, the decision was ultimately left to the player.

"I'm putting the surgery off until I need it," he said.

Last weekend, as Merriman pondered his upcoming decision, he acknowledged the inherent risks in playing this season.

"It could be career-threatening if I did (play)," Merriman told The Associated Press. "It's a possibility. That possibility is still open."

Merriman, who will cohost FSN's Pro Football Preview, recently told FOXSports.com that he was looking for any glimmer of hope to be able to suit up this year for the Chargers.

Merriman has made the Pro Bowl in all three seasons he's been in the league, and was twice named to the All-Pro team. The 2005 Defensive Rookie of the Year has 40 career sacks, including 17 in his sophomore campaign in 2006.


appreciate the attitude but this is borderline idiotic

appreciate the attitude but this is borderline idiotic

Was about to post this article. 4 doctors told him to get surgery...but what do they know

He could screw his family (does he have kids) over big time too if he ruins his career. He's on a 5 year 11.33 mil contract right now, including the $9 mil in guaranteed money he got when he signed. With all his bonuses (which I'm sure he's reached) it's 15 mil over the 5 years. So he has one year left on his deal. That's a hard call to make.

He should have the surgery, sit out the season, come back his contract year and play like a beast to lead his team to the superbowl.

Pacman was Officially reinstated today.

Not sure if he has his own thread on here, I probably should've looked first.

HE DOESN'T GO BY PAC-MAN ANYMORE!!!!!

He did in the Deon car commercial.

I hope Adam Jones learned a valuable lesson:

You can injure someone during a hit and run, but you can't make it rain at a strip club.

What happens if he gets traded to a team with another 85 on it (that wouldn't give it up)?


CINCINNATI (AP)—Maybe receiver Chad Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/;_ylt=Av3pAY0zOPWFyv5AYktpmzUdsLYF) can go by the name that his head coach hates.
The Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/;_ylt=AjTUs8HeFqj9besmtQnRnJsdsLYF) receiver has legally changed his name to Chad Javon Ocho Cinco in Broward County, Fla., a switch that became official this week, according to several media reports. Johnson, who lives in Miami, didn’t return a message left on his cell phone Friday night.
“It’s something I don’t think anyone has ever done before,” he told the team’s Web site. “Have I ever had a reason for why I do what I do? I’m having fun.”
Two years ago, Johnson gave himself the moniker—a reference in Spanish to his No. 85—and put it on the back of his uniform before a game. Quarterback Carson Palmer (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6337/;_ylt=Ah78mUylzDjYPcKxGFkPx4AdsLYF) ripped it off before the kickoff. After the season, coach Marvin Lewis—who dislikes Johnson’s attention-getting stunts—referred to the receiver as “Ocho Psycho.”

Bengals spokesman Jack Brennan said the Bengals had no comment on the matter.
Johnson has been a concern for the Bengals this season. He unsuccessfully lobbied for a trade in the offseason, threatening to sit out if he didn’t get his way. When the Bengals refused, he relented and showed up for minicamp, but complained that his right ankle was bothering him.
He had bone spurs removed from the ankle and was limited at the start of training camp. In the second preseason game, he landed awkwardly and temporarily dislocated his left shoulder. Johnson is wearing a harness and expects to play in the season opener against Baltimore.

Saints' Arrington will sit out season

August 29, 2008 6:33 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Pat Yasinskas

No real surprises in the first wave of cuts by the New Orleans Saints, but there was one other move that was a little disappointing.

The Saints placed rookie wide receiver Adrian Arrington on the injured reserve list, which ends his season. Arrington, a seventh-round draft pick, had been very impressive early in training camp and seemed to have a real shot to be the No. 4 or 5 receiver. But a case of turf toe sidelined Arrington and didn't seem to be getting much better.

The Saints couldn't afford to keep Arrington on the active roster. The one bright side is Arrington will get to spend the year sitting in on meetings and will have an opportunity to get completely healthy. That's just the opposite of what happened with rookie receiver Robert Meachem last year. Meachem wasn't able to be a factor in his rookie year because he was running with a limp for about half the season.

Notable NFL Roster Cuts

Jehuu Caulcrick- Jets

Nehemiah Warrick- Giants

Travis Key- Browns

Jonal Saint-Dic- Chiefs


^^all rookie Spartans

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I have yet to stop laughing today that Chad Johnson is now legally Chad Ocho Cinco.

Lots of cuts made:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/transactions

The Lions cut Drew Henson.

But he was our QB of the future!

Culpepper retired:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3569109

LOL at the picture/caption

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3569580

So now that his nickname is his real name, what will his nickname be?

I might actually buy a football jersey. I <3 Ocho Cinco.

So now that his nickname is his real name, what will his nickname be?

And will Palmer rip off the name on the back if it says "Johnson?"

Apparently Brady is out for the rest of the year. Torn ACL.

Apparently Brady is out for the rest of the year. Torn ACL.

No fuckin way!

Sideline incident raises more concerns about Young


Went to a football game on Sunday and a soap opera broke out.

Welcome to Titans ’08. If the game is dull, just focus on the sideline. That’s where the real drama unfolds.
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It took only one game — a victory over Jacksonville, no less — for the season to take a strange turn. This team has issues at quarterback, be it a tight hamstring, a sprained knee, a bruised ego, a bad attitude or all of the above.

Frankly, it’s hard to see the Titans taking flight if Vince Young doesn’t get his act together — physically and emotionally. Playing great defense is one thing; having to constantly defend your quarterback is another.

By now you know the score: For whatever reason, Young appeared unwilling to take the field midway through the fourth quarter on Sunday afternoon following his second interception and a resulting cascade of boos from the fans at LP Field.

Eventually, he re-entered the game, only to suffer a knee injury four plays later. His day was done. But the real story was just beginning.

We’ll never know exactly what happened. Titans Coach Jeff Fisher immediately shifted into damage control. Young’s teammates were guarded in their answers to questions about the quarterback.

As for Young, he was observed in the locker room on crutches more than an hour after game’s end but left without speaking to reporters.

Mum’s the word.

But there was no hiding the chaos when Young failed to join the rest of the offense on the field with 5:57 remaining and the Titans clinging to a 10-7 lead.

As we piece the story together, it appears that Young began to experience some tightness in his hamstring after a short pass to his right was intercepted by Jacksonville defensive end Derrick Harvey.

Proper sideline protocol is for the player to notify a trainer about an injury, no matter if it’s a tight hamstring or a severed limb. That way, he can get immediate treatment and the coaches are made aware of the situation and can prepare accordingly.

But after throwing the interception and being roundly booed, Young went to the bench and sat down. No medical personnel were summoned.

When the defense forced a punt three plays later and the offense returned to the field, Young was AWOL.

That’s when things grew frantic. It’s hard to run a play without a quarterback.

“I came on the field and 10 wasn’t in the huddle,” said center Kevin Mawae. “I didn’t know what the situation was.”

Fisher then made a beeline to Young, standing several yards away.

After the game, Fisher recalled that his conversation with Young centered solely on the quarterback’s hamstring.

“He said, ‘It’s tight,’ and I said, ‘If it’s tight, we’ll go with Kerry,’ and try to talk him back into it and he felt good,” Fisher said.

But considering how animated Fisher appeared as he talked with Young, it’s hard to believe some other matters weren’t discussed. From the outside looking in, Fisher seemed to all but throw Young back onto the field.

But it’s no surprise that Fisher soft-pedaled this in the post-game interview. In two seasons, he always has been overly protective of his quarterback. It doesn’t appear things are changing in Year 3.

It’s time to get with the program. Young has to grow out of this. Sulking is no longer an option.

This is the toughest part of the learning curve for Young. At the University of Texas, he could do no wrong. The NFL is a different matter.

Titans safety Michael Griffin, who was Young’s teammate at Texas, gets it.

“Hey, fans are going to be fans. Boos are going to happen,” Griffin said. “Everybody has their opinions.”

Yes they do. And opinions are beginning to change where Vince Young is concerned. He made believers when he was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2006. Despite some slippage last season, he quarterbacked the Titans to the playoffs.

But with a lousy preseason and the ugly residue of the season-opener, Young now has some catching-up to do. His teammates still voice their support in interviews but you can sense some concerns creeping into the locker room.

“Part of playing quarterback in this league is the ups and downs,” said Kerry Collins, who finished what Young started. “For a young guy, it’s a hard thing to learn sometimes. It’s not easy.

“There are times when you’re going to get booed. There are times when things aren’t going the way you want it to go. You’ve got to fight through it, and I believe he will. It’s just part of the whole process. No quarterback has ever been immune to it.”

Sounds like the real drama is just beginning.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/COLUMNIST0202/80907012/1027

Not sure anyone else has heard this:

Brett Farve won his Jets debut.

Tom Brady is out for the year. Torn ACL.


News like that could have gotten lost with all the meyhem of week 1 football.

It didn't get lost since once of my fantasy teams had Brady. Hopefully Rivers keeps it up since he was my backup.

Several good teams are already 2 games back in their divisions.

Minny
SD
Jax

Bills are looking tough. They went on the road to beat Jax too.

We shoud hire their coach. :)

the best Lions head coaches of the last 50 years have been the temps, Gary Moeller & Dick Jauron...

Gary drank too much one night and it FUCKED UP his career, along with being fired by the worst GM in the history of the Milky Way Galaxy and areas within 1 vazillion lights years of it.

After losing the first two games of the season, Minnesota coach Brad Childress decided the Vikings can no longer afford to let 25-year-old quarterback Tarvaris Jackson learn on the job. On Wednesday, Childress turned to 15-year veteran Gus Frerotte to run the offense.

How do washed up QBs always find a way to get back in there?

After 15 years of experience, has he learned not to headbutt a wall?

Rams bench Bulger, we'll see if Trent Green is ready for his next concussion now.

Linehan out in STL, Kiffin's probably next later today

Linehan out in STL, Kiffin's probably next later today
Next Lions coach? Stay tuned.

Kiffin axed.

Apparently Detroit technically still has a football team.

Apparently Detroit technically still has a football team.


Well, it's about to all get better very soon.

http://curseofbobbylayne.com/

Benson is now a Bengal.

And the circle is now complete: K. Jones to the Bears, Benson to the Bengals, R. Johnson to the Lions.

Pac Man got in a fight with his body guard and was arrested.


That man is incredible.

Adam.

glOwned?
GlennEd?
I'm not sure which to use, but that just happened.

I guess I don't get it.

Glenndizzle prefers GlennDowned.

Apparently, Kellen Winslow II has been dealing with a testicle problem and won't play tonight.

He's a soldier, nonetheless.

Large balls are usually a requirement in the NFL, apparently for him its a problem.

Romo could miss a month with a broken digit.

Sorry UxKa and Tahoe.

The NFL has suspended CB Adam Jones for at least 4 games.

Champ Bailey's out for 4-6 weeks. And you thought Denver's defense was bad with him out there....

Its ok, they have Dre Bly! He's a star, he'll take over and make fans say Champ Who!

LOL, did you see Moss totally abuse him the first chance he got after Bailey went out?

Romo says he's out until after the Cowboys bye week - mid November.

10 players test positive for steroids.

I WANT NAMES

MAKE THEM FAMOUS

:)

Two notes:

1. The Broncos just signed Tatum Bell again.

2. DBTM already picked him up in our fantasy league.

Next?


Alexander cut by Redskins after four games

By Mike Sando
ESPN.com
Updated: November 25, 2008, 3:47 PM ET

The Washington Redskins have released running back Shaun Alexander after four games and 11 carries with the team.

The 31-year-old former league MVP had provided insurance while injuries prevented Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts from practicing.

Portis and Betts continue to battle through injuries, but the Redskins apparently felt they needed Alexander's roster spot to help with depth on the defensive line.

Defensive end Andre Carter suffered a foot injury against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 12. Several other defensive linemen are also dealing with injuries.

Alexander spent his first eight NFL seasons with the Seahawks, leading the team to the Super Bowl after the 2005 season. He has 9,453 yards rushing yards and 100 career rushing touchdowns.

Alexander was looking to make a comeback after foot and wrist injuries ruined his last two seasons and prompted the Seattle Seahawks to cut him in April. However, in his limited carries with the Redskins, the 31-year-old back never showed anything close to the form that helped him rush for 1,880 yards in his 2005 MVP season.

He didn't play at all in Sunday's 20-17 win over the Seahawks, even though he was returning to the stadium where he earned his fame as well as his fortune -- in the form of an eight-year, $62 million contract signed after his MVP year.

Those punks running the NFL are trying to screw the perfect season:



NEW YORK -- Six players, including the heart of the Minnesota Vikings' stout defensive line, were suspended for four games without pay by the NFL on Tuesday for violating the league's anti-doping policy.
All six were punished for using a diuretic, which can serve as a masking agent for steroids.

The suspended players were running back Deuce McAllister and defensive linemen Charles Grant and Will Smith of New Orleans; defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams of Minnesota and long snapper Bryan Pittman of Houston.

^ Saw it. Don't like it one bit.

Cowboys/Steelers in Pittsburgh this weekend for the first time in 20 years.

That's crazy.

Vikings’ Shiancoe shown on TV barely wearing towel14 hours, 46 minutes ago

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP)—Visanthe Shiancoe is having a breakout season at tight end for Minnesota. His national exposure is now at an all-time high.

Fox televised a clip of Vikings owner Zygi Wilf’s postgame locker-room speech after Sunday’s victory at Detroit, and Shiancoe was inadvertently shown naked in the background. He was wearing a towel that did little to cover him. The network apologized, but screen-grab images were all over the Internet.

Shiancoe wasn’t available to the media Monday, but he joked with a gossip columnist for the Star Tribune of Minneapolis about it. “How’d it look?” he told the newspaper.

But Shiancoe’s agent, Tony Agnone, told the St. Paul Pioneer Press that his client was embarrassed and hopes fans understand it wasn’t intentional.


LOL

And apparently Jerry Jones called out Marian Barber. Said he was a pussy for not playing.

I'm not sure that's a good tactic.

Yeah, I was reading something last week that listed about ten guys who had dislocated toes (presumably the last ten) and NONE of them played the next week and most missed 2-4 weeks.

I don't get the bolded part in this. Why have people in China?


NFL laying off about 150

ESPN.com news services

Updated: December 9, 2008, 1:41 PM ET

NEW YORK -- The recession has hit the NFL.
The league said Tuesday it is cutting more than 10 percent of its headquarters staff in response to the downturn in the nation's economy. The cuts were announced in a memo to league staff by commissioner Roger Goodell. The league is eliminating about 150 of its staff of 1,100 in New York, NFL Films in New Jersey and production facilities in Los Angeles. Goodell said these were difficult and painful steps, but necessary in the current economic environment. The NFL has been symbolic of the wealth surrounding professional sports, but it now joins the NBA, Major League Baseball and NASCAR in announcing layoffs. In a related development, the NFL has indefinitely suspended plans to play a preseason game in China as the New England Patriots closed their operations there, according to Sports Business Journal. "There has been some belt-tightening given the economy, and one of the things we suspended was our operation there," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said, according to the report. The Patriots, the only NFL team with an on-site presence in China, had been slated to play a preseason game there as early as 2009. That game will not occur, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said, according to the report. That decision became "increasingly apparent earlier this year once we locked into having three years of games in the [United Kingdom]," McCarthy said, according to the report.

I just noticed KC has 6 total sacks this year. 1.5 for their sack leader Derrick Johnson.

LOL @ the Broncos.

At one point they were 8-5 and only needed one win or a Chargers loss to clinch the playoffs. Now they are 8-7 and are playing the pissed off Chargers in a rematch of the game they had stolen from them.

After this entire year of the Chargers blowing the season, they need to win one game to make the playoffs. Hilarious.

And it's in San Diego too. Those choking bastards are going to let them take their playoff berth too.

Good, fuck the Broncos.

bTpbM3-vsI4

I think I picked the Broncos, so GO BRONCOS!

ESPN fucked up this page:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3711069

How can Tampa be currently in when Dallas beat them head to head and they have the same record?

If you look at their tiebreaking scenarios Tampa needs a win AND a Dallas loss.

Former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher, who rejected a chance to become head coach of the Browns last weekend, is not going to interview for the head coaching position of the New York Jets, according to multiple sources.

Cowher, according to a source, has been contacted by the Jets. Although he is interested in the Jets job, he told the team he would not be a candidate because he would like to bring in his own personnel director. Jets owner Woody Johnson plans to keep Mike Tannenbaum as his general manager after firing Eric Mangini as head coach Monday.

With Tannenbaum as the general manager, Cowher is willing to pass on the Jets opportunity, stay in broadcasting for another year and wait to return to coaching in 2010.

Cowher has told friends the Jets job interested him for several reasons. First, Cowher would love to coach in the New York market. Second, two of his daughters are either going to school or working in the New York-New Jersey area.

Cowher does plan to coach in 2010. In 2009, though, he was only willing to return if every situation was right for him. He wanted to have a two-year break from coaching to be with family and recharge.

Last weekend, Cowher met with Browns owner Randy Lerner, who asked him what it would take financially for him to be the Browns head coach. Having a close relationship with the Rooney family in Pittsburgh and still wanting more time with the family, Cowher didn't give Lerner a price, and said no.

Cowher recently extended his contract with CBS for another season.

John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Anybody have a recent pic of the Cowher daughters?

I'm just wondering how they are doing?

So would Cower come here if he can bring his own personnel director? We don't have one (just our "GM").

The Jets have agreed to let Cowher potentially hire his own personnel guy now, so he's going to talk to them.

hmm, he turned down the Browns because they were too close to Pitt. He didn't want to do that to the Rooney's. Isn't NY still fairly close, and still the same conference too.

He apparently promised the Steelers on his way out that he wouldn't take another job in the division.

The guy is pure class.

I think Cowher is just stalling a lil bit till he gets his call from Lewand.

Mike Martz got fired as 49ers OC.

Remember when people thought he was an offensive 'genius'?

Tell me Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, and Torry Holt didn't have 99% to do with that assumption.

Singletary just wants his own guy.

I heard Mike Nolan on the radio yesterday and he was really praising Martz.

Nolan said that Martz deserves every bit of the credit that Singletary does for the Niners better play, perhaps more.

I wonder if Martz should take a college HC gig for a couple of years and rebuild his cred?

He could fill the vacancy at Michigan State when DAantonio fills an NFL vacancy...in the next couple of days.

So, starting in '10 they're going to play the Pro Bowl the week before the Super Bowl, in the same stadium, as a way to kick off SB week.

Making the SB has a new perk, you don't have to play in the Pro Bowl anymore.

Will super bowl players opt out for fear of getting hurt the week before?

Making the SB has a new perk, you don't have to play in the Pro Bowl anymore.

Actually, I just read that none of the players from the AFC/NFC Championship games will play in the Pro Bowl. That's a lot of good players on (theoretically) the 4 best teams.

Chad Pennington is now a 2x Comeback Player of the Year.

Chad Pennington is now a 2x Comeback Player of the Year.

AND he's in the playoffs. You can shove those 3 MVPs up your ass, BRETT.

Actually, I just read that none of the players from the AFC/NFC Championship games will play in the Pro Bowl. That's a lot of good players on (theoretically) the 4 best teams.

Maybe now a Lion will have a chance!