It's about fucking time!

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Who?

Who cares?

Wasn't he the singer for that band "The Who"?

Dantley had a machine-like ability to get to the line or score from inside. He took no shit on the court. He was jobbed out of a title in 1988 along with the rest of the team. I'm glad that the powers that be recognized his skills.

He could back his guy down, but to be frank, the knock on him was that he was a lil soft. And I agree with that. He was a lil soft.

Aguirre was a much tougher BBall player, imo.

Well, the knock on him was that he couldn't defend his position, and he was a ball-stopper.

That said, as a pure rebounder/scorer, he was almost without equal.

He did not fit in with the bad boys.

He did not fit in with Isiah Thomas.

Fixed.

He wasn't as good a kisser as Magic or Marky

He did not fit in with the bad boys.

You know...when I look back on it, "Bad Boys" kinda sounds gay.

Only if you say it in a gay way.

Also it was Zeke's team. I dont feel bad for Dantley not getting a ring. There's no guarantee we get it with him. I always felt it was less about getting rid of AD and more about getting Mark Auguire who was considered a fairly cold scorer in his own right and was picked ahead of Zeke in the same draft.

Aguirre was a bust come ECF/Finals time. Yeah, he had 3P foot range while Dantley's was 15-18'. But, much like Sheed, by the time he got here, he'd e rarely drive to the basket and draw fouls even when he still had that skillset. This got more maddening when you'd have lineups with Isiah and 4 jump shooters. Aguirre's defense was piss-poor when he first came here, though it got better once he realized Daly would make him sit altogether in favor of Rodman if he couldn't do some D. It's no accident that Aguirre's the only 20 ppg career scorer with multiple rings who's not in the HOF.

By contrast, Dantley was a machine in similar circumstances. Well, except when he hustled so hard he got a concussion off of Vinnie Johnson, which was studly in an "irresistable force immovable object" kind of way. Dantley had huge moments against the Bulls and Pippen, against the Lakers on the road, etc. He was never a great defender, but he was definitely a notch above Aguirre and Tripucka, and knew how to use his butt and low center of gravity as well as Mahorn. Dantley's ability to draw fouls was a large part of why our younger players could get minutes in the beginning.

The ONLY reason we didn't win a title in 1988 was the refs calling that bullshit phantom foul on Bill Laimbeer in the ending moments of Game 6. If we had, Dantley would've been in the HOF already. But my head will explode if I rant on that too much.

^ Mxy you are the only person that I know that has that opinion. Granted, I don't live in Michigan, so Pistons talk, especially Pistons talk from 20 years ago, isn't a every day occurence.

Aguirre loosened some of AD's teeth and AD did nothing. That wasn't the Pistons schtick, he didn't fit in. We didn't win a title with AD, but we did with MA. MA was a flat out battler. I loved his game.

It's no accident that Aguirre's the only 20 ppg career scorer with multiple rings who's not in the HOF.
whatever the reason its lame if bill walton got in.

Aguirre was a bust come ECF/Finals time. Yeah, he had 3P foot range while Dantley's was 15-18'. But, much like Sheed, by the time he got here, he'd e rarely drive to the basket and draw fouls even when he still had that skillset. This got more maddening when you'd have lineups with Isiah and 4 jump shooters. Aguirre's defense was piss-poor when he first came here, though it got better once he realized Daly would make him sit altogether in favor of Rodman if he couldn't do some D. It's no accident that Aguirre's the only 20 ppg career scorer with multiple rings who's not in the HOF.

By contrast, Dantley was a machine in similar circumstances. Well, except when he hustled so hard he got a concussion off of Vinnie Johnson, which was studly in an "irresistable force immovable object" kind of way. Dantley had huge moments against the Bulls and Pippen, against the Lakers on the road, etc. He was never a great defender, but he was definitely a notch above Aguirre and Tripucka, and knew how to use his butt and low center of gravity as well as Mahorn. Dantley's ability to draw fouls was a large part of why our younger players could get minutes in the beginning.

The ONLY reason we didn't win a title in 1988 was the refs calling that bullshit phantom foul on Bill Laimbeer in the ending moments of Game 6. If we had, Dantley would've been in the HOF already. But my head will explode if I rant on that too much.

I don't post here very often. Am I allowed to use cogent?

My dad and I have been ranting about this for 20 years. I think I moved out of the country just to stop arguing with so many people over all of it (ESPECIALLY game 6 88).

I still hate the fucking lakers because of this. I was a heartbroken little 9 year old.

^ Mxy you are the only person that I know that has that opinion. Granted, I don't live in Michigan, so Pistons talk, especially Pistons talk from 20 years ago, isn't a every day occurence.
A lot of people saw Aguirre as Isiah's boy and had strong feelings about him because of that. With Rodman emerging into his own, we didn't really need Aguirre (or Dantley) to win, which colored things too.


Aguirre loosened some of AD's teeth and AD did nothing. That wasn't the Pistons schtick, he didn't fit in. We didn't win a title with AD, but we did with MA. MA was a flat out battler. I loved his game.
I only remember that now that you told me. I thought that was an accident, not an excuse for a fight.

Adrian Dantley shot 57% in the 1988 Finals. Mark Aguirre shot 36% in the 1989 Finals (defended by Worthy, the same guy AD did well against) and 33% in the 1990 Finals.