http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/post/Raptors-send-Dixon-to-Pistons;_ylt=Aq8G5kmIcg.Chpbj5d3n7Hg5nYcB?urn=nba, 67968

Raptors send Dixon to Pistons

By Adrian Wojnarowski

Thursday, Feb 21, 2008 3:40 pm EST

The Toronto Raptors traded guard Juan Dixon to the Detroit Pistons on Thursday for Primoz Brezec, a league source said Thursday afternoon.

Dixon has played 36 games this season and is averaging 4.3 points and 1.8 assists in 11-plus minutes per game.

Brezec has played 37 games this year, his first with Detroit after coming over from the Charlotte Bobcats in an early-season trade. He is averaging 1.7 points and 1.7 rebounds.

Related: Juan Dixon, Countdown to trade deadline

Weird move, he's basically the same player as Flip Murray.

Did we need another combo guard?

How'd that "Piston for life" thing work out, Primoz?

yeah makes no sense, at least Primoz was 7 feet tall, maybe we dealt Flip too?

Another foreigner for the Raptors!

i dont get it, but i really like dixon.

he really started playing strong by the end of his tenure in washington.

im not thrilled, just because "why?" unless we dont trust stuckey and AA.

dixon is much better than murray. hes definitly a team guy.

dixon is much better than murray. hes definitly a team guy.

You've seen him play, right?

He's a sniper (polite way of saying chucker).

I wouldn't have a problem with that, if we actually needed somebody like that.

He's rarely going to play.

He's rarely going to play.

Which is why they should have kept Brezec, IMO.

On size alone.

I bet they saved money here, even a little.

lol wtf?

I bet they saved money here, even a little.

lol, Dixon makes $200K less than Brezec, which probably pro-rates to $13.95

DAVIDSON SMILES

WTF(detroit.com)??

Is no one else concerned that we dont have a single Center on our roster? I mean i'm all for trading Brezec to help get a better legit Center, or hell even for a 3 swingman that doesnt suck, but for another guard!???

Lets hope we haven't heard about a deal shipping out Flip Murray.

This is purely a move to get Cheickh Samb in the 12-man.
lol

I wonder if Flip Murray is off to NJ as part of a Magliore deal? (with Herrmann?)

See. Scared.

I don't get this either unless Samb is ready to be our emergancy center.

So I looked at his numbers this year. Shoots just under %37 from the floor and has an AST/TO ratio barely over 1. I don't understand how Dixon is any better than Hunter as a 3rd string guard. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Flip as my 3rd string guard. He's shooting %41, has a 2 to 1 AST/TO ratio, and at least is familiar with our players.

WTF Joe?

I am absolutely crushed today. Please hold my calls.

Did anyone think we could actually GET somebody that would help us for Brezec?

Dixon was sweet in college.

Joe knows that the NCAA's are going through Detroit.

He was fantisizing about March Madness and said 'Lets get rid of this foreign honkey and bring in some real American talent'

We're bringing in Dale Davis.

YES!!

Did anyone think we could actually GET somebody that would help us for Brezec?

Yes. I thought at the very least we'd get a 2nd rounder for him. Or possibly a solid swingman for a package of expirings (maybe not Miller, but somebody better than Hayes). Or at least hold onto him for insurance. I don't understand what Dixon adds that we don't already have in Stuckey/Flip/AA/Hunter.

What inda knee jerk reaction is this to the Ben Trade?????? Or is it a "Amir/Walter/Maxiell are our guys with shaq in the west again" Trade.

I hope this leads to Jarvis and Flip being traded together. Though I know it wont.

juan was a 17 pick by jordan, i recall. hes had some nice years. he's gone deep in the ncaa's. hes not a bad player.

i knew that brezec had no value to us from day 1. not flip's cup of tea. this trade doesnt mean a whole lot.

i suspect juan is the 6 guard on the bench, meaning he'll get the same pt brezec was getting. if called upon, i suspect he'll play pretty well. i dont expect him to play though.

this very well could come down to that 200k.

i like dixon. i would have loved this trade- last year. this year it makes no sense IMO.

stuckey and AA better not lose a single minute of PT to dixon. first off, we need THEM to develop and 2nd- they're at least as capable as him.

dixon could be an instant 'shooter off the bench' type but again, we already have that in hayes. i think if we were going to make this move, there are a couple of other small moves we should have made also.

if not, why bother to make the move? it only further clogs up the depth chart and makes us thinner up front.

i have no problem getting samb in there as our 5th big man or whatever. but i don't get brining in another guard.

dixon could be an instant 'shooter off the bench' type but again, we already have that in hayes.


http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/e/e3/Tony-Delk-2006071500_53913.jpg

dixon was pretty good his last yr in portland


like really...

Dixon will steal affalo's minutes, unfortunately, book it. :(

All 12.2?

Personally I think he'll rarely play, if even at all.

We're bringing in Dale Davis.
Please please please make it so Joe!

Can't spell ECF without EC:

https://www.nbrpa.com/news/featurearchive/images/eldencampbell.jpg

With Brezec gone, the move also gives the Pistons a need for a fifth, insurance-type big man. After clearing Murray, the Pistons will move to fill their open roster spot by adding a veteran big man for the veteran’s minimum.

A likely candidate to take that job is Dale Davis, who is not playing but was on the Pistons roster in 2005-06 and 2006-07. Davis was recently seen hanging with his old teammates and chatting with Dumars after the team played in Atlanta on Feb. 12.

Cool. I like Dale. He's one of those guys who will take one for the team and get ejected when you need him to take a cheap shot at one of the opposing team's players (specifically a certain Brazilian with stupid fucking hair).

Cool. I like Dale. He's one of those guys who will take one for the team and get ejected when you need him to take a cheap shot at one of the opposing team's players (specifically a certain Brazilian with stupid fucking hair).


I would pay serious money to see Dale Davis make varejao earn a charge.

I didn't want to mention names...

I like the DD move too. I still can't figure out why he got so much money last time and then never got the chance to play.

As far as Dixon, Joe is just feeding his SG fetish some. Maybe we'll draft 3 or 4 more of 'em?

Like I said about Artie in another thread: he can play all five positions, so he'll be able to address any needs we may have at the power positions or the 1, 2, and 3.

Personally a dream scenario of mine would be us drafting Artie, then making a trade so we can draft Baggins as well.

juan was a 17 pick by jordan, i recall. hes had some nice years. he's gone deep in the ncaa's. hes not a bad player.

i knew that brezec had no value to us from day 1. not flip's cup of tea. this trade doesnt mean a whole lot.

i suspect juan is the 6 guard on the bench, meaning he'll get the same pt brezec was getting. if called upon, i suspect he'll play pretty well. i dont expect him to play though.

this very well could come down to that 200k.

The 200K?

Than why did We send cash to Toronto in the trade?

I've been asking for Juan Dixon in Detroit for THREE YEARS.

I kind agave up this year, figured it wasn't meant to be.

Happy it was.

Dixon's the kind of guy that will excel if you ask him to come in and score. He's like Tony Delk in that respect, only he's much younger and more athletic than Delk was when he was here.

Dixon is one of those 4-year college guys that just knows how to play the game. Can't wait to see him out there with Stuckey.

The 200K?

Than why did We send cash to Toronto in the trade?

i didnt know we sent that money, but it wouldnt show up on the lux tax balance sheet, i dont think.

joe might think we're potentially right up against it, and 200k could be the difference.

i dont know.

if we cut flip and get DD i'd like that. but as long as dixon doesn't take any minutes from stuckey.

but yes- dixon is capable of lighting it up very quickly and that is a plus. he's not as streaky as hayes so in that regard he could be a good offensive threat off the bench.

but we need to get davis on board in any case. i love what he brings to the table and we need some of that 'nasty' he has- even if he becomes our 12th man. it can't hurt to have a tough guy like him around, for practices or just for dishing out a beatdown on occasion.

I'd live with Affalo at SF over Hayes if Walter cant get the spot. But honestly it does give us a scorer off the bench to come in for Rip in Dixon. Something that could help Stuckey's options, especially with Hayes fading in and out of mediocrity.

I don't understand this trade. Heaven forbid a guy like McDyess or Maxiell has to miss some time, we don't have a true Center on this roster anymore...

Juan Dixon, what the fuck???, if he starts eating into AA or Stuck's minutes, I'm going to go Ape Shit...

Guard Overload, and now Herrmann has nobody to hang out with/talk too...

I wonder if Joe D is trying to add a big via free agency right now??? Perhaps a PJ Brown or something, I imagine you have to have at least one center on the roster (other than Samb)

^ Why are you talking about Dixon eating into Stuckey's minutes like it's even a possibility?

Juan Dixon, what the fuck???, if he starts eating into AA or Stuck's minutes, I'm going to go Ape Shit...

Get used to it. Afflalo's done. Everyone (including me) is sick and tired of watching stuckey take on 3 guys in the lane because everybody in the building knows afflalo can't shoot. Stuckey needs teammates out there that can space the floor for him.

Come back next year kid and bring your jumper with you this time.

In the meantime, the bench is better today than it was yesterday. We actually have a go-to scorer now. Good trade.

I don't hate afflalo at all. I hope he comes back next year determined to stick. But it's becoming crystal-clear that he's hurting stuckey's development. He has to be replaced, at least for this season.

This is a really dumb trade. Although Brezec wasn't great, he was one of the few big bodies that we had. Now we make our thinnest position even thinner for another guard???? Joe had better have something up his sleeve or this just doesn't make sense.

god forbid, maybe he wanted some offense off the bench...naaaah.

Brezec is absolutely horrible....

Just in case anyone forgot

i wouldnt go that far...

it pains me to say this, but i agree with kstat. we traded a guy who was not going to help this team for a guy who maybe will help this team. i dont know what guard he'll be off the bench (i suspect LH comes back into the picture at some point), he may be a factor.

I don't understand how the playoff rotations are going to work now. Can we really expect to see Lindsey now??? (Maybe just for the Boston series????) Who the fuck knows, I bet Flip Murray isn't a happy camper, I doubt we buy him out (so he doesn't sign with a team like Boston), My guess is AA will not see much of the floor come playoff time, and Herrmann may not even be active anymore...

Its been speculated everywhere that we are buying him out. And fuck if he's a happy camper. Piece shit never made me happy watching his pussy lame contributions in critical moments of a game. Fuck him and everything he stands for basketball wise.

Brezec? When shaq was traded Brezec's value dipped severely. He's not physical enough to help us in the playoffs, so i'm not hurting over losing him.

Dixon? Bleh i personally dont care for him. But hopefully he's better than Hayes. While I agree that the mission is to get another scorer next to Stuckey, I dont agree that Affalo hurts Stuckey's development, or that there is a mass of people tired of seeing Affalo on the court. Of course it wouldnt have been a Kstat take w/o extra exaggeration sauce on it.

Isn't Dixon a pretty good on-ball defender? That might be a good reason to have him in the playoffs.

dixon is a pretty good all around player. im with kstat, ive wanted him for a while. he'd have been an excellent pickup if we hadnt already gone sg overboard.

Brezec ends his Pistons career tied for 14th all-time in team history for defensive 3 second violations...

Isn't Dixon a pretty good on-ball defender? That might be a good reason to have him in the playoffs.
Don't know, he is a decent thief, but so is hughes and flip murray, so that doesnt mean shit.

i think it was Pharoah who really wanted Dixon before he got with the raps happy now? now post

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6133&page=15

Juan Dixon talk from 2 years back.

I'm still very happy we got this guy. He can flat out score. Stuckey's development will be a lot easier.

Murray will probably be waived in the next day or so. He needs to be off our roster by 3/1 in order to be playoff eligible with another team.

I would guess that Boston, Dallas or maybe a team with open roster spots due to trades would scoop him up.

Let's hope we don't run into him in the playoffs!

So why not waive him march 2nd?

Brezec is absolutely horrible....

Just in case anyone forgot
YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH

it seems we're trying to acquire as many former washington players as possible.

dixon
hayes
sheed
rip

well i hope we cut flip ASAP and sign davis. i'd definitely be cool with that.

Murray will probably be waived in the next day or so. He needs to be off our roster by 3/1 in order to be playoff eligible with another team.

I would guess that Boston, Dallas or maybe a team with open roster spots due to trades would scoop him up.

Let's hope we don't run into him in the playoffs!
Man fuck Flip Murray. I wish he was still a Cav. That was the only time he helped us win games against them.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6133&page=15

Juan Dixon talk from 2 years back.

I'm still very happy we got this guy. He can flat out score. Stuckey's development will be a lot easier.
That thread does explain your belief that he "helps" stuckey's development.


I've wanted Dixon on the Pistons for years now.
Its official that he will get an exaggerated endorsement and everybody who gets in the way of his minutes will get disrespected. :kennythejet:

All kidding aside Stuckey's development has nothing to do with Dixon. They got Dixon for more offensive production at the 2 spot. IMO it had more to do with Hayes not being the scorer he was in preseason, than anything to do with affalo, whose a great defender. Again I think its possible that Affalo gets moved to more SF duty as a defender. Stuckey's development improves when he learns to pull up more often, and make a few better decisions.

So why not waive him march 2nd?

This tactic is not taught at the Joe Dumars School of General Managing.

He's got that "nice guy" thing to maintain, you know.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6133&page=15

Juan Dixon talk from 2 years back.

I'm still very happy we got this guy. He can flat out score. Stuckey's development will be a lot easier.

I used to like him, but he is shooting %37 from the floor. Maybe Joe thinks he can be molded a little better than Flip can be (who is a complete chucker). If we get another big man for depth, this whole thing is basically a wash and I don't mind it. Worst case Dixon is the same player Flip is. Best case is you get some good defense and decent 3 point shooting off the bench (sort of like Mike James was here).

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Ugh, Limp Bizkit. Rubbish!

That song did not go well with the video. At all.

That Fred Durst is such a wanker. His mum? A bloody whore.

Good Form, Quick Release, looks fast.
Maybe Stuckey will have someone to kick it back to now.

I'm still absolutely brokenhearted over the trading of Primoz Brezec.

If you need something to cry on, bukdow is always willing to lend you his nutsack.

Good Form, Quick Release, looks fast.
Maybe Stuckey will have someone to kick it back to now.


His style of play is probably more similar to Rip Hamilton than anyone else. he loves to come off screens and fade to the baselines.

I'm still absolutely brokenhearted over the trading of Primoz Brezec.



Me too.

So I take it you want to bury your face deep between bukdow's legs?

Isn't Dixon a pretty good on-ball defender? That might be a good reason to have him in the playoffs.



Thus, Lindsey is rendered useless...

It's obvious, guys. Juan is The Lebron Stopper (TM)!

LeBron better not even try to post Dixon up!

LeBron better not even try to post Dixon up!

Dixon has a National Championship Ring and a college degree...

LeBron has neither

And what do either of those have to do with anything?

And what do either of those have to do with anything?
this represents a collective thought reading that info.

Doesn't surprise me though.

If you were exchanging friendly insults with Wil and he knew your mom had cancer or something, he'd probably bring that up and make fun of her for it.

Doesn't surprise me though.

If you were exchanging friendly insults with Wil and he knew your mom had cancer or something, he'd probably bring that up and make fun of her for it.


How do you know my motives? Just because I'm Venezuelan doesn't mean I'm Venezuelan.

Is brent Barry still a waived Free Agent? I woulda loved to get him Detroit in instead of Dixon.

So I take it you want to bury your face deep between bukdow's legs?

Why, are you ready to give someone else a turn?

Chuckin'... down a one-way street...

I thought this was a great move for the Pistons because Dixon is the ideal eighth man for this team IMO. It's one of those trades that will actually start paying dividends come playoff time.

Primoz Brezec will not be in the NBA next year.

I thought this was a great move for the Pistons because Dixon is the ideal eighth man for this team IMO. It's one of those trades that will actually start paying dividends come playoff time.

Primoz Brezec will not be in the NBA next year.

Primoz just vants to play.

When I saw the article title in the Toronto paper, which read something like "Brezec just wants to play," I literally lol'd.

Just read 91 posts about a Juan Dixon / Primoz Brezec trade.

I actually recommend that you do likewise, there's some epic Kstat in here.

https://twitter.com/Juan_Dixon3

He played about 65 games after the deal and was out of the league.

Love that Afflalo can't shoot and is hurting Stuckey's development.


(disclosure I was not an Afflalo fan either)

Been 6 years since the 'stons were last worth a shit. Sad.

I wasn't active at the site at this time, and I'm kinda glad. Everyone seems retarded as fuck.