Walter Herrmann needs to take Jarvis Hayes spot. Its become apparent that if Jarvis can't hit 3's, he's useless. Walter is a better all around player and plays far better defense. Hayes has pissed me off too many times shooting with 2-3 guys wide open and missing everything that isnt a spot up 3 pointer. Its like having a slow mo evans out there.

Start Mike McMahon.

Jarvis should change his name to Arvis, b/c he's got no J.

Anyway, I agree completely, Herrmann is a much better defender, and probably just as solid of an offensive player as Jarvis is...

If the two traded places, I wouldn't mind one bit. My guess is both will be gone in the offseason, with Jarvis being the most likely to be offered a 1 year deal to return...if anything.

Start Mike McMahon.
I smell where you're going man, and i dont like it one bit. Mike McMahon isnt as accurate a passer as Walter.

I like Jarvis, but we've had too many inconsistent players on the bench in the past 3-4 years. He's showing me nothing that would make me NOT want to lump him in with Delfino and Mo Evans.

I like Jarvis, but we've had too many inconsistent players on the bench in the past 3-4 years. He's showing me nothing that would make me NOT want to lump him in with Delfino and Mo Evans.
Yep, and he looks even more one dimensional. Like Mo Evans he can dunk too.

Start Mike McMahon.
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Start Mike McMahon.

How did Jeff Garcia do after he left the Lions, btw?

I though he was "finished"?

(not directed at Herm, specifically, mostly at our lawyer friend that is now MIA)

lol @ ANYBODY counting ANYONE'S years as a Lion.

lol @ ANYBODY counting ANYONE'S years as a Lion.
Agreed. its cursed indian burial grounds in detroit and pontiac. the lions keep building stadiums on them.

Walter can do things with a basketball I haven't seen many white boys be able to do. He's like a mix between Dr. J and Pistol Pete.

Sign me up on Hermann taking Jarvis's minutes. He at least deserves a chance.

This roster would be ideal with just one more guy off the bench that can score on the perimeter. Hayes was hoped to be that guy, but he's too inconsistent.

Hermann has proven before that he can be a scorer in the NBA. At least let him try.

ojay with the guest appearence.

Fabio seems to be a step slower but he does deserve some serious burn, and his hands indicate he has a monstrous penis.

When Jarvis is off, I don't mind throwing him in there but we all know this team has issues with international players...

Fabio seems to be a step slower but he does deserve some serious burn,
I wouldn't say he's that much slower. I think he may surprise some people with a little more PT, and his fundamentals are really great, so I think we can...

and his hands indicate he has a monstrous penis.
...wait, what?

ojay, have you started your search for the real killers yet?

When Jarvis is off, I don't mind throwing him in there but we all know this team has issues with international players...
I dont think it has much to do with international or not(Okur played pretty damn good for us). Its whether they can bring something consistently helpful. Darko and Delfino couldn't. I think Hermann can. Also Hermann is better than Delfino imo as a SF(Delfino could be a better SG maybe, but we played him more at SF).

I wouldn't say he's that much slower. I think he may surprise some people with a little more PT, and his fundamentals are really great, so I think we can...

...wait, what?

His hair makes him look bouncy and slow or something.


ojay, have you started your search for the real killers yet?

Fuck my namesake. I'm the real killer here.


I dont think it has much to do with international or not(Okur played pretty damn good for us). Its whether they can bring something consistently helpful. Darko and Delfino couldn't. I think Hermann can. Also Hermann is better than Delfino imo as a SF(Delfino could be a better SG maybe, but we played him more at SF).

I should of said Flip rather than "this team". Dorko and Delfino left Flip with the sour taste of sissy juice.

I've been saying this since the day I first saw him play defense.