Michigan seems to be on a roll right now............

2010 WR Ricado Miller from Dr. Philips (not Dr. Pepper) H.S. in Florida has commited to Michigan. Miller is considered a top 5 or top 10 WR (depending on who you listen to). He is a borderline 5* prospect that will most certainly be a high 4* and a top 40 or 50 player in his class.

Possibly the best part is that he may only be the first in the long line of Florida dominos that could be falling soon. The next domino is rumored to be 5* Safety Marvin Robinson Jr. from the Sunshine State. Looks like so far RR is turning this thing slowly based on 9 months of recruiting.

Isn't Robinson the kid who has been seen wearing Michigan gear for several months and had UM #1 for quite a while?

Isn't Robinson the kid who has been seen wearing Michigan gear for several months and had UM #1 for quite a while?

Yes sir.

Marvin Robinson is expected to announce for michigan as soon as friday but he will be blue!!!!!

^^^where'd you here that?

Florida is slowly becoming a pipeline to UM, I wonder who has recruiting responsiblities down there...


Put it this way, kids from Florida beat the shit out of the in-state talent...

Marvin Robinson Jr is a 2010 prospect. But already has offers from USC, Florida, and Ohio State including us so if we get him, we will have a hard time holding on to him for that long.

But he has had national interest for a while, hasn't he? It's not like he's a new discovery, and he's been a UM fan for a long time.
Sometimes I think the out-of-state kids are easier to hold on to. It's instate kids that get the itch to leave the state of Michigan that roam off and end up at a USC or some other spot. If this kid has grow up just down the road from Lakeland and isn't persuaded by now to go to Florida, then I think we would be secure unless he decides homesickness might become an issue.

First Marvin and Ricardo are good friends Second the kids myspace says hes about to commit to the big blue and third hes said for a long time U of M was his favorite he is a stud both are more than likely top 50 ranking in the nation next year. Both actually have legitimite and shots at being the top player at there postitions respectivally.

Marvins myspace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43024818
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^^that's convincing to me...


also i read on GBW, that a RB from the class of 2011 that goes to the same school (supposed to be really good, last name is Hart), is taking the visit with Ricardo for the MSU game...

I'm wondering how soon Marvin will commit. I don't pretend to understand what goes on inside the mind of nationally known 16 year old kids, but having a myspace page in which your name is "bout to commit to the university of michigan" makes me wonder why he doesn't just commit.

^^twins said on Friday he was gonna give a verbal...

i've read nothing to suggest that though

Look I did not say friday for sure I said as soon as friday but I do believe it will only be a matter of time before he commits but on a another positive note Jeremy Jackson Fred Jackson son also a top 100 prospect next year more than likely a top 3 prospect in Mich HAS COMMITED TO THE BLUE MACHINE!!!!! GO BLUE!!!!

Early rankings only have Jackson as the #9 junior in the state, but make no mistake - UM has been after him for a while.

What a great start to the 2010 class! Soon it will be time to give them their own thread, something that usually doesn't happen until Feb when the previous class is signed. By the way, I still can't believe football hasn't introduced an early signing period yet like basketball. Basketball has an early period which, I believe, is in November, before their season. The way football players are committing these days, and especially considering that many are enrolling in January, it makes no sense to have them wait until February to sign.

Jethro, do you think that 2010 QB from Inkster is going to be ranked high?

His name escapes me at the moment...

Devin Gardner will be a top rated qb already has offers from mich msu wisky and nebraska def a top 250 type player with potential to end up a five star or high four star

also theyre have been some rumbling that jelani jenkins may be closer than earlier thought to making a decision and he is believed to be visiting this weekend I would not be suprised if was blue by sunday :BARWIS:

also jeremy jackson had offers from florida and texas as well as a bunch others usually a good indicator of a top player and a great catch!!!!!

Is jelani planning on enrolling early?

Who is planning on enrolling in January? I know Forcier, Big Will, & Beaver for sure...

If Jenkins commits he for sure gets his own thread

I'm wondering how soon Marvin will commit. I don't pretend to understand what goes on inside the mind of nationally known 16 year old kids, but having a myspace page in which your name is "bout to commit to the university of michigan" makes me wonder why he doesn't just commit.

He's visiting on Oct. 25 for the MSU game. Most "in the know" believe he'll commit before the visit, and if not, he'll commit on the visit.

Ricardo is thinking about bringing Demetrius Hart with him on his visit. He's a sophomore and Ricardo says he's got about 20 carries for 200 yards and 5 td's on the year so far. He said, “We have a lot of talent at my school, and I feel like with me already being committed and going to Michigan, I can help my class and other classes get to Michigan and help us get national championships.”

Jeremy Jackson has already been on the phone as well. (no, not the text message I got on my phone last night at 11:30 while sleeping, wasn't mad at all I got woke up by the way) Jackson said, “I’m already helping recruiting,” Jackson said last night. “I called up [Illinois OT] Christian Lombard today and I’m going to talk to [Detroit Cass Tech cornerback] Dior (Mathis) too. Hopefully we’ll just get the best class we possibly can for my year … that’s what the plan is ,at least.”

Also heard that all of Cass Tech's coaches believe Big Will will end up at U-M. One coach went as far to say “We know where he’s going to go.”

With these recruits and RR at the helm, I think we are playing for National Championships soon.

Rich Rod's 2010 class could be lethal.

Ricardo Miller, Marvin Robinson, Devin Gardner, Dior Mathis, Jeremy Jackson, Austin White...

those 6 guys alone are going to be amongst the tops in their position, and all 6 are already putting Michigan high on their list (2 of which have already committed; altho Marvin's yet to make it official)

The thing I love the most about Gardner is that he is just starting the scratch the surface of his ability. He is already 6'4" and appears (to the naked eye) to be thicker than the 6'4" Shavodrick Beaver. His arm isn't as developed as his legs, but if he were to gain another 15 or 20 pounds and come in at about 215 he would be a bit more ready for the grind of college football. I really am hoping he will commit before Beaver or Forcier get on campus and have a chance to blossom (if they do). I have a feeling that Gardner won't get a lot of love nationally (top 250 maybe), but is the perfect type of player for our system.

Rich Rod's 2010 class could be lethal.

Ricardo Miller, Marvin Robinson, Devin Gardner, Dior Mathis, Jeremy Jackson, Austin White...

those 6 guys alone are going to be amongst the tops in their position, and all 6 are already putting Michigan high on their list (2 of which have already committed; altho Marvin's yet to make it official)

Austin White is as good as Green already. Two brothers already walk ons for the Sparty football team, and it's pretty much conceded at this point. If not MSU, I see him going out of state.

Yeah, I've read about how much he would love to play in college with his brothers. I do think that depth charts at both Michigan and Michigan State should be taken into consideration. He's a big talent who may want the PT that would come someplace else.

Why would he want to go to MSU and play behind Caper, Leggett, AND Edwin Baker...

so he can be the new AJ Jimmerson?

Looks like McNeal is going to de-commit.

Looks like McNeal is going to de-commit.


LOL, no he isn't.

He's visiting Colorado & Minnesota, two trips that he had planned well before he committed to Michigan.

He lives in Minnesota anyway, so I think if he was that enamored with the Gophers, he would've decided a long time ago.

From Tom Beaver on scout...


2. Re Bryce McNeal visiting Colorado and Minnesota ... Sam reminds me this is not a new development really ... that Bryce has been talking about visiting these 2 schools all along, as just-in-case all-backs.


Nice try bukdow.

Looks like McNeal is going to de-commit.

He's announcing his commitment to Colorado on the same day Will Campbell announces his commitment to Texas.

I believe bukdow. He's proven he's right more than everyone on this board. Just like DrTre.

How's Nichol's arm anyway?

LOL, no he isn't.

He's visiting Colorado & Minnesota, two trips that he had planned well before he committed to Michigan.

He lives in Minnesota anyway, so I think if he was that enamored with the Gophers, he would've decided a long time ago.

From Tom Beaver on scout...




Nice try bukdow.

He's actually scheduling a visit to Florida. Has me a bit concerned.

Bryce is close with Shav Beaver and has been persuading other recruits to go to UM...

I'm not worried.

Bryce is close with Shav Beaver and has been persuading other recruits to go to UM...

I'm not worried.

He was also close with Newsome ..... and isn't Beaver still looking around a bit?

I hope his fellow recruits can convince Bryce to be blue, but I certianly wouldn't leave it to Beaver to seal the deal.

Also, I have no idea what I am talking about and went a long way for that weak-ass joke.

Glenn, FYI: Leave it to Beaver jokes are overrated.

Beaver = Vagina jokes are still funny, though.

IBTAMWIFT

In Before The Ask Motown What Is Funny Thread

I really think your worrying about nothing. Insiders at scout think scheduling visits is just going through the process and that they're firm in their verbals.

Those same people never said Will was firm with his verbal once he took a visit elsewhere...

of course it all has to play out, but taking visits isn't de-committing, like bukdow suggested.

I hope his fellow recruits can convince Bryce to be blue, but I certianly wouldn't leave it to Beaver to seal the deal.

Also, I have no idea what I am talking about and went a long way for that weak-ass joke.
The Beav is looking around, too. Texas Tech is being mentioned.

The Beav is looking around, too. Texas Tech is being mentioned.

Hater.

The Beav is looking around, too. Texas Tech is being mentioned.


ok, well if Shav fantasizes about playing in a one-dimensional offense and always losing to your in-state rival, than God Bless him, Go Red Raiders!

I'd be more upset to lose Forcier than Beaver anyway...

On MSU`s newest recruit

From Scoutingohio.com where he is ranked the #13th best prospect


Quote:
13. **** Denicos Allen (6-0, 205, ATH; Hamilton)

I bet back in the Pony League days many a mother pulled her kid off the field because of Denicos Allen. Does this kid ever bring it. He ends up playing a lot of what looks like middle linebacker. I don’t know if that is what coach Place calls it when he has a strong safety sized player lining up there but that is surely what it looks like. What I am sure of is the defense is designed to put Allen in the middle of the field where he can just run to the ball. His instincts are second to none. He is reading and reacting to plays before they develop, and has the speed to get there, has the speed to get there and make the play, and does he ever make plays. His is one of the longest highlight tapes of the year. He is such a great tackler. You could make how to tapes with Allen as the demonstrator. He had 132 tackles for the Big Blue. Allen ran a10.9 in the 100-meter event as a freshman and was an All-GMC selection on the grid iron as a freshman. I suspect every school in the region will try to get him to camp and get a better idea about where he will play in college. He is more a strong safety in size but is so dynamic at the line of scrimmage. If he shows ball skills his stock will go up but a lot of schools are looking for smaller faster linebackers who can be every down players in this pass happy age. He boasts a 3.2 GPA and coach Place says he is a great character kid, a player every college coach wants in his lockeroom. He reminds me a great deal of former Buckeye All-American Mike Doss. He was a regular at Buckeye games this past season and says the Buckeyes are his favorite school.

U of M Recruit Visits for the Toledo game and MSU game...


Note: is Haulstead a 'message visit' for a certain Midwest outside WR who is "committed" but taking visits? Not unreasonable to think so, not at all ... his scholarship-spot could well be considered open again at this point (and this is more than speculation...).

New - additions to Oct. 24 MSU game official visits.

1. Fla. WR Willie Haulstead (6-3, 205) from Titusville (north of Pahokee, in E-Central Fla.). Scout.com's #283 Rising-senior. He has a top five (in order) is Florida State (soft commit), South Carolina, Michigan and Georgia. “I’m making my decision on signing day." Jr. stats: 36 catches, for about 800 yards, and 13 touchdowns.

2. NOT visiting (maybe Northwestern): Ga. QB/S Donavan Tate from Cartersville (6-3, 195). He's a first-round-level baseball player and will probably chose that sport ... otherwise he'd be a Top 100 prospect. He would also plans to visit UNC and USC (this weekend).

3. unofficial visitor: Jr. Fla. DB Lo Wood (5-11, 170, 4.5) from Apopka, Jeremy Gallon's school. He is considered a top-top junior. Wood may get offered at his visit ... and if he does ...

4. Will Campbell, Teric Jones, Thomas Gordon & Dior Mathis (2010) from Cass Tech. Teric & Thomas have both committed to Michigan. Will is expected to re-commit to UM soon. Junior safety Dior Mathis has all but committed to UM, but plans to take a visit to Miami some time next year.


The rest of the list for MSU:

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit-- WR commit(?) Bryce McNeal (6-2, 190, 4.5) Scout.com's #216 Rising-senior.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit: -- Ariz. OT Taylor Lewan (6-7, 275) from Scottsdale Chaparral (Craig Roh's school). Other schools he'll for sure visit include Minnesota, Oregon.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit: Fla. S Vladimir Emilien from Plantation in SE Fla. (6-1, 190). Out for the year with an ACL. Teammate is Brandon McGee, Scout.com's #63 Jr., and Josh Robinson. He also visits WIsconsin Oct. 10 and Stanford Nov. 15.

-- official visit Moved from Sept. 27 to Oct. 24 MSU game: U-M QB commit Shavodrick Beaver (6-5, 200) from Wichita Falls, Texas, Rider.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit: Fla. WR/CB Josh Robinson (5-10, 180) from Lauderhill Plantation ... teammate of Brandon McGee and Vladimir Emilien. His top schools: USF, UCF Michigan, FIU (Oct. 31).

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit: DL/OL commit/decommit Will Campbell (6-4.5, 310, 4.9) Scout.com's #14 senior. Decommitted Sept. 5, at least for now ...Jr. stats: Defense: 51T, 15TFL, 12S. after the season he'll visit Miami, USC, LSU.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game official visit: commit N.J. OT Anthony LaLota (6-6, 265, 4.65) from Princeton, The Hun School. Scout.com's #27 Rising-senior. He lists Virginia, PSU, U-M ... Sept. 12 decision ... MICHIGAN.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game Visit: N.C. OL Travis Bond (6-7, 300) from Bertie High in Windsor, N.C. He is Scout.com's #155 Rising-senior. He camped at UNC, is visiting Michigan in October (Oct. 25 MSU game), and also wants to visit Maryland and South Carolina.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game Visit: Fla. Ath. Denard Robinson (6-0, 176, 4.38) from Deerfield Beach. FAST. Looking at Florida, Michigan, Miami, Georgia. He threw for over 1,900 yards as a Jr. QB, and had a great Scout.com Combine.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game unofficial Visit: Jr. Fla DB Marvin Robinson will visit for a game in the fall.

-- Oct 24 MSU Game unofficial Visit: Marvin Robinson's friend Orlando Jr. WR commit Ricardo Miller (6-2, 195) from Dr. Phillips HS. ( michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&a...amp;nid=37991 15 ). 2008 U-M camper ... *mom=alum* .. with his super-soph RB friend Demetrius Hart.

-- NEW no visiting for Oct 24 MSU Game official Visit: Fla. RB/Slot commit Vincent Smith (5-9 175) from Pahokee ... and teammate Nu'Keese Richardson.

With Tommy Bowden fired, one of the top safeties de-committed. He had Michigan on his short list with UNC, SC and Tenn:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=55028

With Tommy Bowden fired, one of the top safeties de-committed. He had Michigan on his short list with UNC, SC and Tenn:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=55028


Holloman would be a fine get. We're thin on safety, especially since Brandon Smith & Isiah Bell will probably be converted to LB

Not to rain on your parade Wil, but I think Holloman is all but promised to USC at this point.

Not to rain on your parade Wil, but I think Holloman is all but promised to USC at this point.

I was following up Chris's post...not stating fact.

Bryce McNeal is back on the market after de-commiting from Michigan and Michigan will not be the school he goes to apparently. Sounds like he is deciding between Florida and Minnesota.

Bryce McNeal is back on the market after de-commiting from Michigan and Michigan will not be the school he goes to apparently. Sounds like he is deciding between Florida and Minnesota.

The only way this could be good is if it opens the door for Randle. Otherwise, the decommit train is getting long, and could be getting longer.

Why is it that when Notre Dame is horrible their recruiting gets better, and UM can't do the same?

I mean, I realize we still have a strong class and there will be additional commits that make it stronger and there were bigger needs than WR, especially with the 2010 commits, but still.

this is why i hate when kids give a verbal so early...if you have even the slightest doubt, don't give a verbal...

Looks like McNeal is going to de-commit.
What did I say? I said, "What did I say"!?

Willy, from now on, you shut your little McCain diddling mouth until I tell you to open it. Capice?

BUKDOWNED!

Bryce McNeal is back on the market after de-commiting from Michigan and Michigan will not be the school he goes to apparently. Sounds like he is deciding between Florida and Minnesota.

Not so fast my friend, from Gopher Hole.com-

GH: Has your relationship with Coach Rodriguez changed at all?
BM: No, my relationships with Coach Rodriguez and Coach Dews are the same as when they started to recruit me, I don’t have any different views of them, and I hope they don’t have any different views of me.

GH: So they didn’t recruit over you or anything like that?
BM: No, not at all.

GH: Is Michigan still going to be one of the schools you are considering?
BM: I am still interested in Michigan and am keeping them in the mix, I just am not committed to them anymore. They are still in my top 5 schools.

Definitely not a good thing though.

I've got to admit, this is absolute rock bottom for me as a Michigan fan. 2-4, just lost to a 1-4 MAC team who was giving up 35 points a game, Sparty is 6-1, and our top 3 recruits have all de-committed. Can things get any worse?

Not so fast my friend, from Gopher Hole.com-

GH: Has your relationship with Coach Rodriguez changed at all?
BM: No, my relationships with Coach Rodriguez and Coach Dews are the same as when they started to recruit me, I don’t have any different views of them, and I hope they don’t have any different views of me.

GH: So they didn’t recruit over you or anything like that?
BM: No, not at all.

GH: Is Michigan still going to be one of the schools you are considering?
BM: I am still interested in Michigan and am keeping them in the mix, I just am not committed to them anymore. They are still in my top 5 schools.

Definitely not a good thing though.

I've got to admit, this is absolute rock bottom for me as a Michigan fan. 2-4, just lost to a 1-4 MAC team who was giving up 35 points a game, Sparty is 6-1, and our top 3 recruits have all de-committed. Can things get any worse?
Just don`t forget our bet, bub.

Just don`t forget our bet, bub.

I guess things could get worse. [smilie=smashfreak.:

5 Star QB Tajh Boyd, who originally committed to WV, has since removed his committment and opened up his recruitment. I doubt he picks Michigan, but he's going to consider them.

Personally, I'd rather have Boyd than either Beaver or Forcier.

Something to keep an eye on moving forward...

also here's some notable visitors for the UM/MSU game on Oct 24th, (all of these guys are here for Michigan, not MSU)


Nu'Keese Richardson- 4 star from FL, Scouts #7 WR, (soft verbal to Florida)
William Campbell- 5 star DT, de-committed from UM
Travis Bond- 4 star from VA, Scouts #15 OT
Denard Robinson- 4 star from FL, Scouts #23 QB/ATH
Donavan Tate- 4 star from GA, Scouts #17 S
Bryce McNeal- 4 star from MN, Scouts #27 WR, de-committed from UM
Marvin Robinson- class of 2010, expected to commit to Michigan next weekend, offers from USC, Tenn, UCLA
Willie Haulstead- 4 star from FL, Scouts #37 WR (soft verbal to Florida St)


12 visitors alone from the state of Florida

commits LaLota, Shav Beaver, and Vincent Smith will all be taking their first visits to UM

Bryce McNeal will not be making the trip and it looks like Michigan is out of the running. We suck.

per scout.com


I talked to Ricardo Miller and I asked him if he thought any of the Florida boys will commit besides Marvin Robinson. His response:
"my teammate demitrius hart rb/db class of 2011 den lo wood cb class 2010 mite get offered n committ"

I don't know if anybody has been able to see DeMetrius Hart's highlight film, but my God, I have never seen a kid with as much explosiveness as he does.

I'll try and get it on here, I don't know if it will transfer since it's from the subscription.

Think Chris Rainey at Florida...he's a pistol. And how ironic is the last name...

Good luck getting that verbal SAT score.

Or should I say, "Gud lukk gittin dat righting SAT!"

- Kevin Newsome to Penn St

I still would rather of had him than Tate Forcier of Shav Beaver.

Scout.com's #2 Kicker, Anthony Fera, de-committed from Michigan today. Probably looking at Penn State, per his father.

I don't think I'll lose sleep over this one, but both Lopata & Gingell are out of eligiblity after '08. So either Bryan Wright (who Lloyd foolishly gave a schollie) or some walk-on will probably handle kicking duties next year...

It's a non issue because Michigan can't get close enough to kick a field goal anyway.

It's a non issue because Michigan can't get close enough to kick a field goal anyway.

We've even missed two extra points this year. Neither of which we're blocked either.

Look for brandon gibbons name to come up now that fera has decommited and another name who may be at the big house saturday is FL QB Eugene Smith who I personally think is the best out of the bunch and fits the offense like a glove. And he has said recently Michigan is in his final 4.

Marvin Robinson more than likely commits Saturday 2010 recruit whom will be one of the top 50 already boasting offers from USC LSU FLA FSU and Michigan.

Rumors are flying of a few more possible decommits one being shav but this has been rebunked the other is Dewayne Peace who is having a monster year and some say is a hidden gem. Peace will take a few visits so I would move him into the soft commit status.

I really hope the floridians will be able to swing Haustead and lo wood to commit over the weekend. This is a huge huge weekend for recruiting if Michigan wins this game the spartans will have lots of explaining to do. Its one thing to lose when Michigan has a decent team. Not that they dont but the public perception is that they dont. This is a must win for the spartys and for the wolverines this win would be like floping a royal flush. GO BLUE!!!!

Tom Beaver thinks it's possible Marvin Robinson, Lo Wood, and 2011 RB DeMetrius Hart could all commit on the spot if offered this weekend.

The word "commit" is being abused by these kids lately.....I'm just not going to get too excited until they sign the LOI

I like that I'm driving this bitch. Motown looks pimp.

Just heard this thought I would pass it on. Taj Boyd former wvu commit #4 qb per scout is visiting this weekend. Which would lead me to believe that there may be some cause for concern with Mr. Beaver. Michigan is still recruiting at qb and has two commits and another strong candidate in Eugene Smith for them to bring in another recruit would really make me think that the Beav is destined for Okie country or maybe they see him as a Wr I am not sure but I do think it is very interesting that Taj Boyd will be in town....

Just heard this thought I would pass it on. Taj Boyd former wvu commit #4 qb per scout is visiting this weekend. Which would lead me to believe that there may be some cause for concern with Mr. Beaver. Michigan is still recruiting at qb and has two commits and another strong candidate in Eugene Smith for them to bring in another recruit would really make me think that the Beav is destined for Okie country or maybe they see him as a Wr I am not sure but I do think it is very interesting that Taj Boyd will be in town....
The Beav has suffered a season ending injury.

The Beav is about to decommit did not enjoy the U experience the rumor is....
Also Lalota left at halftime when the game was tied and did not seem to be that impressed but he is going to mich for academics so maybe not a decommit
Marv and Lo are both going to commit if they already have not
Josh Robinson may commit soon as well

The lose of the beav will be huge unless Taj or Eugene come aboard this ship is sinking fast

Also beavs injury is to his none throwing shoulder.

Forcier is better than Beaver as far as I'm concerned. But Newsome & Boyd would be better than both.

It looks like Peace has left the ship. That's the word my carrier pidgeon is bringing me.
I just canceled my Scout membership. No more insider stuff for me.

Below you will see a couple of typical Scout posters:

http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/features/pollock/Images/pollock1-16-6.jpg

Not quite yet but it could happen but on a bright shav seems to have came around after his meeting with RR today looks like he'll stick to his commit for now

Peace is gonna be gone if he isnt already big problem with the weather somehow the kid thought it was 70 and sunny in oct at the big house

more incentive for Ruben Randle sign aboard...we have no WR's!

The Beav is about to decommit did not enjoy the U experience the rumor is.....

At one point in the process, Beaver had questioned whether his decision to commit to Michigan was the right one. Now having taken an official visit to Ann Arbor, though, those doubts have vanished and he is prepared to enroll for classes in January.

"I'm ready right now. I feel I made the right choice after all," Beaver said. "The record doesn't bother me because I know what the potential is for that team. The future looks real bright right now."

At one point in the process, Beaver had questioned whether his decision to commit to Michigan was the right one. Now having taken an official visit to Ann Arbor, though, those doubts have vanished and he is prepared to enroll for classes in January.

"I'm ready right now. I feel I made the right choice after all," Beaver said. "The record doesn't bother me because I know what the potential is for that team. The future looks real bright right now."

OUCH! I s the twins still batting about .032? Who is his source? Kirk Herbstreit?

my source is myself I did say he was gonna decommit but did also restate that he wasnt. I was standing about twenty feet from him when he stated " this isnt what I expected and got on his phone calling someone to say he wasnt sure he had made the right decision but rich rod got him with the ole snake oil on sunday......

earlier in the game when it was close you could hear beaver recruiting josh robinson and vlad hard core but as the game wore on he became the one in need of some assurances

also dont get too hyped by hawkins picking on thursday I believe he is gonna be a duck but could be a lion as well dont think we have a real shot but maybe I can keep my batting avg around .032

Travis Bond loved his trip to AA.

Might be hard to pry him out of the East Coast, but RR told him he'll play right away.

Travis Bond loved his trip to AA.

Might be hard to pry him out of the East Coast, but RR told him he'll play right away.

WOW! Rodriguez is THE MASTER RECRUITER

he told Marvin Robinson he can play both ways and start on defense...

Finally some good news. Michigan got a commitment from 4 star DT Pearlie Graves. Dude looks like a beast.

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/PEARLIEGRAVES9_1150.JPG

HE'S A MAN! HE'S 40!!

he's a 1 star on scout, and a 4 star on rivals...

I'm guessing he falls somewhere inbetween...

he's 22 on scout, and 44 on rivals...

I'm guessing he falls somewhere inbetween...

HE'S A MAN! HE'S 40!!

He's actually only 37. I'm worried about his health, though. Apparently he's Greg Oden's son.

^^ he's made of paper?

I see Moodini has been trolling on Scout. You can only use the term "Beast" when describing a player there. OK, you can sometimes say "Monster."

Some interesting news from Scout this morning: Quintin Washington is said to be leaning toward UM, with his father heavily in favor of him spending the next four years at home for the holidays (this is kind of a compromise with his Moms, who wants him to play closer to his hometown).

Remember Vladimir Emilien? The one-time OSU lock, then Wisconsin, then Stanford safety? Looking to announce on Monday morning, and the Master on Scout thinks it looks good for Michigan.

If we can round out or class with Emilen, Washington, Campbell, Bond, Lewan, and Jenkins, we'll be set...

If we can round out or class with Emilen, Washington, Campbell, Bond, Lewan, and Jenkins, we'll be set...

Hey, toss in Ruben Randle and a few more five stars, and HELLZ yeah, the class would be one of the all-time greats.
I am not at all optimistic on Jenkins, and Campbell. On Campbell: A) I don't get the hoopla. I've watched all the Zapruder Film on him, and the kid doesn't seem like the terror that Scout Bootlickers (thanks bukky) peg him as. He doesn't play with intensity, and his technique is sorry. And, he's from Detroit. Big project if you axe me. B) Why the decommit, and no announcement that he's coming back yet? He's gotta know what that would mean to Michigan recruiting especially now. USC has said, "Um, no thanks, Willie". If Pete Carroll don't want you (especially after snagging Rojo and Nick Perry the last two years), hmmmmm. Just sayin'
But to close out with Emilien, Lewan and Washington would be pretty fucking good as well. I am in agreement with guys on Scout who say that some names that will end up Blue in February are not on our (posters) radar yet. It will be an interesting time between now and signing day.
And is MSU going to sign anybody else? It seems they've grown cold cold cold on the recruiting trail.

And is MSU going to sign anybody else? It seems they've grown cold cold cold on the recruiting trail.

Maybe you should start one of those nifty little countdown things?

My biggest question at this point is this:
If Campbell recommits, is there any chance they move him to the offensive line? With LaLota and Roh, and now Graves combining with Martin and Van Bergen, they may have the luxury of considering it. I'm not sure where he has more upside.
Interesting thing is I've heard such polar opposite takes on Campbell, from he's completely dominant to he's a waste of size and ability.
I've heard multiple Alan Branch comparisons.

And is MSU going to sign anybody else? It seems they've grown cold cold cold on the recruiting trail.

MSU seems to be working harder at getting people involved with the 2010 class, such as William Gholston, and having already locked up Max Bullough. However there should be 4 more spots in this class, which are very to be determined. Dion Sims is supposed to be very favorable, but that's been that way for a while, so you wonder if something changed. Jeremy Gainer has opened things up and MSU is supposed to be involved. There is a push for Michael Buchanan, but that appears to be a longshot. Cameron Gordon appears to be coming back on the radar. Also there appear to be some hopes that Dylan Farrington, or someone else will work out their academics and then get a committable offer and sign.

Pretty much with the last 4 spots I see it going down somthing like this:
Dion Sims
Instate name that has been around for a while(Gainer, Gordon, Farrington)
2 people who aren't on the radar, possibly decommits with the yearly coaching turnover

I wouldn't be surprised to see another 2010 signing before a 2009 one though. With only 4 spots left, I see MD holding onto at least 2 till January in the hopes of getting a big-timer or 2. Also, there is always the potential for the WHO?!?!? person - such as Keshawn Martin from last year. The player who comes out of nowhere and is a legit, but overlooked prospect.

Michigan is supposed to be looking at Farrington as well, but that may have been detoured with the Graves committment.
From what seems to be the general consensus, Gholston will end up Green, but he's another kid that woudn't surprise me to see leave the state.
The big question with Dantonio is can he leave the Michigan/Ohio coccoon and branch out into the civilized world.

My biggest question at this point is this:
If Campbell recommits, is there any chance they move him to the offensive line?


kind of like Joey Barksdale...

Anybody notice that UM got a committment from former Soviet KGB agent Vladimir Emilien today? I don't know if there is any trught to the rumor that he whacked Boris Yeltsin, but he seems to be a pretty good football player. He's a 4* out of Plantation, Floridizzle. Apparently chose between UM, OSU, Wisconsin and Stanford. He a smart muthafucka too, with a 3.8 GPA.

Zip, I have a few questions...


1) Is Dewayne Peace going to be a WR or a DB?

2) Is Isaiah Bell going to be a LB?

3) Is JT Turner a corner or a safety?

4) Are Teric Jones, Vincent Smith, Fitz Toussaint, and Jeremy Gallon ALL going to be RB's, or will two or three of them play a different position?

Zip, I have a few questions...


1) Is Dewayne Peace going to be a WR or a DB?

2) Is Isaiah Bell going to be a LB?

3) Is JT Turner a corner or a safety?

4) Are Teric Jones, Vincent Smith, Fitz Toussaint, and Jeremy Gallon ALL going to be RB's, or will two or three of them play a different position?

1. He will be a corner if he sticks with his commitment.
2. He is going to start at Safety, but more than likely he will end up at WLB.
3. JT was recruited as corner at Michigan. It Schafer's system he needs guys that can play press coverage. Obviously if you've ever seen Boubacar's videos he is a master of press and they think that Turner's size (6'2", 210) would be a nightmare at corner.
4. I think the only RB in that group is Touissant and possibly Smith. Gallon and Jones are for sure slot dots.

What he said ^^^^
And don't axe me those technical questions. I'm not like the guys on Scout who want to take a kid who played kicker in high school and start axing if he's going to play tight end in college. I figure these guys were recruited for the positions they played in high school. I mean, Bell is getting major pub. Why put 30 lbs on him and make him play linebacker? You'd have to redshirt him and then hope 30 pounds doesn't take away his speed. Unless Rodriguez figures he can win with 6'2 210 lbs linebackers. I guess it's been done before, most notably by Nebraska when they were winning national championships. They converted several bigger DB's into linebackers, and they were a god almighty holy jesus farting christ terror (if you don't think jesus farted, you're crazy).

I don't think Vincent Smith ever sees the field. He is really small and not too fast. Gallon? I'm skeptical on him. He seems even smaller than Smiff. Jones supposively runs a 4.3 40, and he's about 5'10 185 IIRC, so he would make a great slot, playing in space, he has a high ceiling, his measurables are good that being said BANG!

http://www.punkvinyl.com/blog/images/mrp/neworleans/no8.jpg

Per Scout, Bryce McNeal may be back in the fold for UM...

Per Scout, Bryce McNeal may be back in the fold for UM...

Per Scout, everyone may be back in the fold for UM, even Willie Heston.

http://www.umich.edu/~newsinfo/MT/97/Spr97/mt10fs97.gif

Check out our new kicker Brendan Gibbons on this highlight clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOhoS1Wf-vs

Very nice punt and than some...

YOWZA! Kicking highlights! It's what I live for!
How about some long snapper highlights?

Did you watch it? At the end of the clip the punter lights up the return man and than talks some shit. I thought it was hilarious.

Did you watch it? At the end of the clip the punter lights up the return man and than talks some shit. I thought it was hilarious.

Hilarious yes, but here is the problem...........

1. The clip is already over a week old

2. Its a kicker. Yes he is a big kid, but he is a kicker. Once again.........he is a kicker.

Hilarious yes, but here is the problem...........

1. The clip is already over a week old

2. Its a kicker. Yes he is a big kid, but he is a kicker. Once again.........he is a kicker.

I thought it was tight.

I'll agree it was a cool hit, but what kind of a "football player" waits till he crosses mid-field before he tackles the guy? Did you notice him aggressively running toward the ball carrier or was he simply standing there? I would think if he were such a badass he would've ran down like most h.s. kickers and make the tackle inside the 25 or 30 and he wouldn't simply wait for him to spring a 50 yard return and then pin him against the sidelines.

IM 40 IM A MAN!!!

Did you watch it? At the end of the clip the punter lights up the return man and than talks some shit. I thought it was hilarious.

I just wartched it. This kid is Big and seems to be able to BOOM it (well, at least once anyway).
I gotta disagree with you fillycheeze. The punter is the safety valve, and I believe they are coached to stay back just in case the return man gets by everyone else, and hellz yeah: use the sideline rather than trying to tackle the guy in the middle of the field. Textbook punter tackling., and he led with his right side so as to protect his golden toe HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHLOLZ.
I already can't wait for next football season.

Michigan State has received their 17th commitment for 2009........

6'2", 225 lb Defensive End Corey Freeman from Ohio. He apparently has Dwight Freeney type ability and should be a great edge rusher for years to come.

Inkster HS WR Cameron Gordon committed to Michigan.

Rivals has him as a 4 star WR, but some think he'll be a LB.

Hopefully he can lure Devin Gardner next year.

He also had offers from Michigan State, Cincinnati, Minnesota, and Iowa.

Are there any other current Wolverines (who would never, ever play) that would like to transfer or quit? If so, leave now so UM has a few more scholarships to give to players that fit the system. With only 4 more left to give out, there are more players than that who remain solid possibilities and could be instant contributors.

I know State fans were hoping for Gordon and, several months ago actually expected a Gordon commit at any time. This is a good pick-up for UM because he's versatile and because it's another instate guy to help dispel the idea that UM isn't interested in players from in state. Truth is, they never have been interested in much more than the top 5-10 players in state, but turned their attention next to Midwest guys and period dips in warm climate states. Their massive haul in Florida paired with the fact that they are 1 or 2 commits shy of their usual total instate, with MSU capitalizing more than usual, polarizes it more than it should.

4-star WR Cameron Gordon from Inkster HS is expected to commit to MSU very soon.

To follow up the latest posts, I just wanted to trow this quote in. Post #111 in the thread, from April 13.

From what I've read, everybody seems to be on board that hasn't been talked about before.

There were some rumors about Greg Mathews & Toney Clemons, but there never seemed to be much to them.

Same goes for Martell Webb, James Rogers, and Darryl Stonum.

Carson Butler is going to enter the NFL Draft. Kevin Grady might not be back, I think he has a medical-redshirt year available should he want it (or if RR wants to extend it to him).

Zirbel is gone with a career-ending injury.

To follow up the latest posts, I just wanted to trow this quote in. Post #111 in the thread, from April 13.


He also started a thread not to long ago saying that Dion Sims had committed to MSU.

Now apparently he doesn't want to play football in college, period.

Now I know why SpartanTailgate is a free website.

Are there any other current Wolverines (who would never, ever play) that would like to transfer or quit? If so, leave now so UM has a few more scholarships to give to players that fit the system. With only 4 more left to give out, there are more players than that who remain solid possibilities and could be instant contributors.
I know State fans were hoping for Gordon and, several months ago actually expected a Gordon commit at any time. This is a good pick-up for UM because he's versatile and because it's another instate guy to help dispel the idea that UM isn't interested in players from in state. Truth is, they never have been interested in much more than the top 5-10 players in state, but turned their attention next to Midwest guys and period dips in warm climate states. Their massive haul in Florida paired with the fact that they are 1 or 2 commits shy of their usual total instate, with MSU capitalizing more than usual, polarizes it more than it should.

The feeling I get from the "insiders" who post on Scout is that we'll know more after the semester ends, and possibly even after spring practice. At first, one guy said he expected 15-20 "defections" with wide receiver being hit hard. He seems to have backed off a bit. Will L is right about Clemons and Matthews talk, but those seem like dumb rumors, and not the brightest moves for guys whose eligibility (IIRC) is declining in terms of how many years they have left. Especially Matthews, who has one year left. It seems that McGuffie is definitely gone, but the rest will be guys who came in with potential that hasn't played out.

But to summarily dismiss these athletes is wrong. The attitude of the typical knuckle draggin mouth breather on Scout is that everything this year has been Shafer, and the players' faults. Yup, get rid of the guys who "don't want to be here" without regard to the fact that these guys may not be ogres and demons who are holding the Genius of Rich Rodriguez hostage. It's total bullshit to discount that these players came to UM with their own sets of hopes and expectations, and the new hire and system change have left many in a kind of limbo. Tough place to be for a kid who left his family at a young age and now finds himself in a kind of exile, and with a new coaching staff who may have come in swinging their dicks around and telling everyone that everything they've been doing for the last several years has been a worthless clusterfuck.

To those who have accepted with blind faith that Rodriguez and his West By God Virginny hillbilly crew can do no wrong, this last year hasn't been a picture-perfect (nor anywhere near it) idea of how to handle walking into a situation like Michigan. This isn't the kind of place that needs to be bulldozed, carpet bombed, and the ashes ground into dust and fed to pigs. There is a long, long history and tradition that one guy didn't need to walk into and completely destroy and show a total lack of respect for, and then whine to the media like a Capital P Pussy every time a microphone was stuck up his ass. Rodriguez has a LONG way to go, and the big question is, will he get, and does he deserve, the chance and time to get "his" system and "his" players in so he can build a winner? And I sure do wish he never uttered his by now infamous "we can adapt to the talent we have" mantra that now looks hollow and disingenuous at best.

Many of us do not believe that the team was devoid of talent (especially defensively) the day after the Captial One Bowl. Rodriguez went in and made a few examples of players and did not attempt to keep others in the fold, and that is his fault and he should be held to scrutiny for it, and he is directly to blame for the results this season (hey! let's hire our defensive coordinator LAST!). And I sure hope I've heard the last of his self-absorbed whining and crying about the scathing treatment from a lot of fans and media.

I just don't get why McGuffie would leave (at least from a system standpoint). Where will he go that has a system more suited for him (that doesn't already have a 5 star RB playing there now)?

I just don't get why McGuffie would leave (at least from a system standpoint). Where will he go that has a system more suited for him (that doesn't already have a 5 star RB playing there now)?


Some people seem to think he'll go to TCU or Texas A&M.

Regarldess he has to sit out next year anyway...

McGuffie leaving has nothing to do with issues he has with the school or the football team. He's leaving because he feels he absolutely needs to be closer to home because there are family things that he can't shake for a few years. He probably doesn't care so much about the system at other schools, as long as they pay for his education and allow him proximity. He has a HS teammate at one school that probably gives them the lead since there's is probably an instant roommate and some stability.
The only issue he likely has with UM is that, frankly, they might not have been willing to even allow him to play football any more. RR was concerned about his 3 concussions in one year. I guess looking out for his long-term health is a bad thing and shows he's not about "family values".

By the way, Zip, I think you need medication. One moment you're creaming the keyboard with enthusiasm for the future (with RR's recruits) and the next you bash RR like he's a pedophile.

Zip's obviously short on patience. It is a virtue.

Zip's obviously short on patience. It is a virtue.

And not long on a batch of excuses for a 2.5 million dollar a year crybaby who imploded the program.

HEY gang! Lots of action today, so let's get to it:

Jordan Barnes: GONE
Shaved Beaver: some fuzzines going on there...the MySpace stalkers on Scout pulled this comment from his page: "I've got a bad feeling about Michigan"--WHO there, Mr Beaver! But apparently one of the Bigs on Scout called him and Beaver said something like "No, dumbazz. BAD means GOOD now. Didn't you see Stir Crazy? When Gene Wilder and Rochard Pryor went to jail, and the tried to act "Bad" so the other guys wouldn't beat the fuck out of them? Yeah. One of the best movies ever" (Shavodrick is the movie critic for his high school newspaper, so the Stir Crazy reference is apt and really shows he knows his movies).

Pearlie Graves: Rumors of him reopening his committment appear to be dung at this point, but he and DaQuinta Jones are two guys that consistently have everybody on Scout curled up in the fetal position by the toilet with an empty bottle of Aqua Velva lying on the floor next to them.

the twins81: The Village idiot is back on Scout guaranteeing a committment from Will Campbell and Taylor Lewan, the team mate (and possible gay love interest) of Craig Roh.

And not long on a batch of excuses for a 2.5 million dollar a year crybaby who imploded the program.

HEY gang! Lots of action today, so let's get to it:

Jordan Barnes: GONE
Shaved Beaver: some fuzzines going on there...the MySpace stalkers on Scout pulled this comment from his page: "I've got a bad feeling about Michigan"--WHO there, Mr Beaver! But apparently one of the Bigs on Scout called him and Beaver said something like "No, dumbazz. BAD means GOOD now. Didn't you see Stir Crazy? When Gene Wilder and Rochard Pryor went to jail, and the tried to act "Bad" so the other guys wouldn't beat the fuck out of them? Yeah. One of the best movies ever" (Shavodrick is the movie critic for his high school newspaper, so the Stir Crazy reference is apt and really shows he knows his movies).

Pearlie Graves: Rumors of him reopening his committment appear to be dung at this point, but he and DaQuinta Jones are two guys that consistently have everybody on Scout curled up in the fetal position by the toilet with an empty bottle of Aqua Velva lying on the floor next to them.

the twins81: The Village idiot is back on Scout guaranteeing a committment from Will Campbell and Taylor Lewan, the team mate (and possible gay love interest) of Craig Roh.
If RR loses those three, UM`s class will be nothing more than a hand-full of retarded Agim Shabajs.

Yikes, I know that the wagons have circled so tight they look like a snake swallowing itself, but damn, this is looking very shitty for the blue and yellow.

I hope you guys are not expecting big things next year. I already bet a Walmart Wolverine $10 that UM won`t win 9 games next year.

Seriously, RR was a bad, bad, bad choice. When he goes 6-6 next year, losing to MSU for the second year in a row for the first time since Jesus was an undergrad at MSU and with only an invitation to the Motor City Bowl to show for it, he will be looking to exit stage left after the Michigan faithful get done with his colon.

If RR loses those three, UM`s class will be nothing more than a hand-full of retarded Agim Shabajs.

Yikes, I know that the wagons have circled so tight they look like a snake swallowing itself, but damn, this is looking very shitty for the blue and yellow.

I hope you guys are not expecting big things next year. I already bet a Walmart Wolverine $10 that UM won`t win 9 games next year.

Seriously, RR was a bad, bad, bad choice. When he goes 6-6 next year, losing to MSU for the second year in a row for the first time since Jesus was an undergrad at MSU and with only an invitation to the Motor City Bowl to show for it, he will be looking to exit stage left after the Michigan faithful get done with his colon.

If UM loses those 3, their class will still be ranked ahead of MSU.

So I don't understand what exactly you mean.

Jordan Barnes- supposively the staff isn't too worried about losing him since UM has plenty of MLB's already, plus it opens up a spot for Jelani Jenkins

Shav Beaver- scout.com already shot down the rumors of him wavering

Pearlie Graves- for now he's still committed, we'll see how it ends

If UM loses those 3, their class will still be ranked ahead of MSU.

So I don't understand what exactly you mean.

Jordan Barnes- supposively the staff isn't too worried about losing him since UM has plenty of MLB's already, plus it opens up a spot for Jelani Jenkins

Shav Beaver- scout.com already shot down the rumors of him wavering

Pearlie Graves- for now he's still committed, we'll see how it ends
Ah, Willie, its "supposedly". As for what I mean, UM will have a bunch of "slot receivers" which many believe more than a couple are going to have a very hard time qualifying academically.

Regardless, this upheaval and "RR-ification" is not good for UM. As Zippy put it in one of his posts, UM did not need to be gutted and reinvented.

Scout is reporting that OT Taylor Lewan committed to Michigan yesterday.
He's 6'7", 272 and some are saying he's got a shot to be Jake Long 2.0.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/TAYLORLEWAN6_30200.JPG

As Zippy put it in one of his posts,

Stop right there. That tells me all I need to know.

[QUOTE=bukdow]

Seriously, RR was a bad, bad, bad choice. QUOTE]

im sure whoever was in charge of msu's admissions says the same about letting you in.

how many times did you have to whore your wife out to put together ten dollars?

Scout is reporting that OT Taylor Lewan committed to Michigan yesterday.
He's 6'7", 272 and some are saying he's got a shot to be Jake Long 2.0.


NICE pick up. I may have my complaints about the Hillbilly Crew, but the recruitments of Lalota, Roh and Lewan show that this staff can set their sights on some targets and go git 'em. I know for a fact that these guys weren't on UM's radar (and vice versa) before this past season, so this is nice. I also think the pick up of Vlad Emilien is nice. I hope his injury will heal, as I think that caused some other Biggies to back off him.

With regard to Campbell and Lalota, I hope RR can land a couple more defensive line playmakers, as I'm buying into the steadily increasing enthusiasm to move both those guys to the offensive line.

All that being saidLOLZ! This class would be a nice class to pass out the red shirt to, every one of them. I don't see not one freshman difference maker here. But we all know UM doesn't have the depth to do that.

[QUOTE=bukdow]

Seriously, RR was a bad, bad, bad choice. QUOTE]

im sure whoever was in charge of msu's admissions says the same about letting you in.

how many times did you have to whore your wife out to put together ten dollars?
Oof. That was a brutally bad post. Just awful.

[QUOTE=b-diddy]
Oof. That was a brutally bad post. Just awful.

Gotta agree with ya, bukky. The direct wife insults are painful to read. But, at least you did find a man that would love you just for you, bukky, and even though bdiddy might not understand, you should just revel in it.

[QUOTE=bukdow]

Gotta agree with ya, bukky. The direct wife insults are painful to read. But, at least you did find a man that would love you just for you, bukky, and even though bdiddy might not understand, you should just revel in it.
Zippy, I am going to tell you the same thing I told Redford, "No".

[QUOTE=Zip Goshboots]
Zippy, I am going to tell you the same thing I told Redford, "No".

Well, at least I know that even Robert Redford can abandon his standards also.

All that being saidLOLZ! This class would be a nice class to pass out the red shirt to, every one of them. I don't see not one freshman difference maker here. But we all know UM doesn't have the depth to do that.

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I couldn't find the "I'm with stupid" emoticon.

Jeremy Gainer is headed to MSU. 4-star, top 15 LB.

Jeremy Gainer is headed to MSU. 4-star, top 15 LB.

Isn't he that kid who goes to Livonia Clarenceville, which plays in the METRO Conference, easily the worst in the state of Michigan?

Isn't he that kid who goes to Livonia Clarenceville, which plays in the METRO Conference, easily the worst in the state of Michigan?
No, Willy, that would be you and your Marquindoshavoquandios totem, your ridiculous www.joewalshackowntingskool.edu "education", your horribly unaddressed inferiority complexes and overall cocksuckerface douche-baggery. Yes, you definitely compete in one of the worst conferences in life and hardly approach a 4-star rating.

bukdow:
You must remember, Michigan is recruiting every 5'4 120 lbs scat-slot-dot-scooter-shifty-nifty-willy-nilly back who currently does not reside in Michigan.
HAHAHAHLOLZ

Actually, you Sparties are sore because UM snatched the Gordons, and they were thought to be Sparty locks until UM came a callin'.

And when will this DingDongtonio character realize that you CAN get players who aren't from Michigan or Ohio? Honestly, this guy can't leave his back yard, can he?

Clearly, Dantonio is an agorophobe, or whatever the term is for a guy who has a fear of leaving his mother's basement.

bukdow:
You must remember, Michigan is recruiting every 5'4 120 lbs scat-slot-dot-scooter-shifty-nifty-willy-nilly back who currently does not reside in Michigan.
HAHAHAHLOLZ

Actually, you Sparties are sore because UM snatched the Gordons, and they were thought to be Sparty locks until UM came a callin'.

And when will this DingDongtonio character realize that you CAN get players who aren't from Michigan or Ohio? Honestly, this guy can't leave his back yard, can he?

Clearly, Dantonio is an agorophobe, or whatever the term is for a guy who has a fear of leaving his mother's basement.

LDBaphobia

No, Willy, that would be you and your Marquindoshavoquandios totem, your ridiculous www.joewalshackowntingskool.edu "education", your horribly unaddressed inferiority complexes and overall cocksuckerface douche-baggery. Yes, you definitely compete in one of the worst conferences in life and hardly approach a 4-star rating.


Only other Big Ten offers Gainer had were from Minnesota & Indiana.

That tells me all I need to know.

Oh yeah, and Central Michigan tossed him an offer. Must be a stud.

Thank you, bukdow.

Jeremy Gainer is headed to MSU. 4-star, top 15 LB.

Is this the same kid that was committed to Indiana or is it a different 3* LB?

MSU's always been known for producing quality linebackers.

Even though there are currently none in the NFL.

^ lol Percy Snow was good in college but I don't even remember him playing much in the NFL.

When the state of Michigan becomes a hotbed for quality D1 football talent, let me know.

The best of the best in this state never end up in East Lansing, because they want to go to a school that is relevant.

Of all the kids that committed to MSU from the state of Michigan, only two (Norman & Baker) were even offered by Michigan.

Face it, Sparty likes to scold Rich Rod for not having the upperhand on in-state recruiting, even though the top kid in the state is going to end up being Blue, what's that say?

It means Michigan High School Football is second-fiddle.

Kid's don't line up to play in 'Don Treadwell's' offense, bukdow.

^ lol Percy Snow was good in college but I don't even remember him playing much in the NFL.

Former MSU LB Dimitrius Underwood was probably the most mentally unstable human being to ever play in the NFL.

Will is en fuego today! Staking his claim on Will Campbell going Blue, no less!

When the top in-state kids go elsewhere--look at it over the last three years--they suck. When they don't they're GrrrrrATE!

Will, there's enough talent in Michigan to give you some difference makers. They just need a lil more coaching and seasoning because the MHSAA is about as fucked up as GM or Chrysler. Shitty schools, especially in Detroit, and they take athletics away from the kids by severely limiting their participation time. But you get 'em, coach 'em up, and BANG you've got some David Harrises or Braylon Edwards's all the sudden.
That, and good luck getting the southern studz to come up north in enough numbers to make you an elite team. Not working out so far.
You Rodriguez apologists are the type of people who believe that if you click your red heels together enough and talk about it--there's your reality. It's not quite there yet, so why not build a team with some real good players in your own backyard who might actually WANT to play for Enormous State U?

Julian Peterson actually has a decent resume.

MSU can get the top players in the state, btw. They end up in prison within a few years, but that's beside the point. I think they went back-to-back years with the top player when they got Duckett and Rogers, but even they needed a pass interference call, a fluke 12th man mental mistake, and 60:01 to beat big brother.

Unless you live in the state of Michigan, MSU is an irrelavant, second-tier program.

ESPN doesn't care about them. A national viewing audience doesn't care about them, and out of state recruits don't care about them (except for the bottm of the barrell kids in Ohio who didn't get offers from Ohio St).

Simply put.

Well, a 6`2" 215# kid who can run a 4.5 seconds forty yard dash and a 10.9 seconds 100 meter isn`t all bad. He could end up being one motherfucker of a safety.

I found a site that actually has complete games of Tate Forcier and Scripps Ranch High. Sweet! Look what he does at the 20:30 mark of the game vs. St. Augustine on 10/17. Wow! That's why we don't need "the shaved Beaver" bukky.

http://www.kbcsports.com/school_ca_scripps_ranch.asp

Unless you live in the state of Michigan, MSU is an irrelavant, second-tier program.

ESPN doesn't care about them. A national viewing audience doesn't care about them, and out of state recruits don't care about them (except for the bottm of the barrell kids in Ohio who didn't get offers from Ohio St).

Simply put.

Unless you live in Michigan, Michigan is irrelevant. haven't beaten OSU in years, 3-9 this year, and having to look for a new defensive coordinator after one year of hiring Rodriguez.
Oh, and getting butt-pumped in BCS bowl games this decade. Oh, and getting smashed by PSU, MSU, OSU, Notre Dame, and Illinois this past season.

Guys, let's not be delusional here: UM is a mess right now, and it ain't gonna get much better for awhile.

I found a site that actually has complete games of Tate Forcier and Scripps Ranch High. Sweet! Look what he does at the 20:30 mark of the game vs. St. Augustine on 10/17. Wow! That's why we don't need "the shaved Beaver" bukky.

http://www.kbcsports.com/school_ca_scripps_ranch.asp

I watched the highlight reel so I don't know when 20:30 was. But, he had a nice play where he scrambled and got away from 3 defenders to throw a TD. Then he had two nice long runs where you could clearly see his speed and cutting ability.

What they didn't show was later that night, his father killed him.

Unless you live in Michigan, Michigan is irrelevant. haven't beaten OSU in years, 3-9 this year, and having to look for a new defensive coordinator after one year of hiring Rodriguez.
Oh, and getting butt-pumped in BCS bowl games this decade. Oh, and getting smashed by PSU, MSU, OSU, Notre Dame, and Illinois this past season.

Guys, let's not be delusional here: UM is a mess right now, and it ain't gonna get much better for awhile.


I would agree with all that you said, except that the mainstream sports media outlets all pay attention to Michigan.

When you have a top 3 alumni base, nationally, your going to be relevant no matter how good or bad your team is.

Notre Dame is a prime example. They haven't won a bowl game in over a decade, they can't beat USC, they haven't even sniffed a National Championship, yet they're highlights will always be played on ESPN. Win or lose. 8-3 or 3-8.

Michigan is the same way.

It's not being delusional, it's factual. Relevancy goes far beyond one season's win/loss record.

I read a book by Michael Freeman 'The Uncensored History of ESPN' it basically confirms everything the small-market fan already knows. ESPN caters to large individual franchise fan bases. Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Lakers, Celtics, Patriots, Cowboys, Duke (B-Ball only), North Carolina (B-Ball only), Ohio State, Notre Dame & Michigan.

Everybody else takes a back seat.

You'll occasionally get your flavor of the month (USC, Packers w/ Favre, Mets, Giants). But other than that, your bottom line show fodder.

I GUARANTEE WILL CAMPBELL GOES TO MICHIGAN!!!

I would agree with all that you said, except that the mainstream sports media outlets all pay attention to Michigan.

When you have a top 3 alumni base, nationally, your going to be relevant no matter how good or bad your team is.

Notre Dame is a prime example. They haven't won a bowl game in over a decade, they can't beat USC, they haven't even sniffed a National Championship, yet they're highlights will always be played on ESPN. Win or lose. 8-3 or 3-8.

Michigan is the same way.

It's not being delusional, it's factual. Relevancy goes far beyond one season's win/loss record.

I read a book by Michael Freeman 'The Uncensored History of ESPN' it basically confirms everything the small-market fan already knows. ESPN caters to large individual franchise fan bases. Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Lakers, Celtics, Patriots, Cowboys, Duke (B-Ball only), North Carolina (B-Ball only), Ohio State, Notre Dame & Michigan.

Everybody else takes a back seat.

You'll occasionally get your flavor of the month (USC, Packers w/ Favre, Mets, Giants). But other than that, your bottom line show fodder.

I call BULLSHIT on your reading a book.

I GUARANTEE WILL CAMPBELL GOES TO MICHIGAN!!!

I double guarantee it.

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Jeremy Crabtree of Rivals.com is reporting Will Campbell has eliminated Michigan from his list and will choose from LSU, Florida and Miami at the All-American Game next Saturday. All signs point to him going to LSU at this point.

DAMNNNNNN

I GUARANTEE IM RETARTED!

Interesting...

Nick Perry all over again.

Scout has settled this Campbell thing down a bit. A King Beaver blog at 7:45 titled "You're not gonna believe this" had Campbell at 50.1% to UM. Beaver's percentages, once they hit 50.1, usually mean that he has been told something and feels pretty damn good about it.

Did Big Will set the stage for an AA game announcement that shocks the world? Oh, we shall see! I've NEVER been so anxious for a high school football game as I am now for this thing on Saturda.
In fact, I've NEVER been anxious before for a high school football game, period.

In fact, I've NEVER been anxious before for a high school football game, period.

Well thats good because handing out the water on the sidelines isn't anything to get anxious about Zip.

im guessing im not breaking news that last week the freep reported that "william campbell" came through the early enrollment list at UM's registrar?

bukdow is gay

im guessing im not breaking news that last week the freep reported that "william campbell" came through the early enrollment list at UM's registrar?

bukdow is gay

Did they also break that he was on the early enrollment list at Florida, LSU and Miami as well?

Jackass

Did they also break that he was on the early enrollment list at Florida, LSU and Miami as well?

Jackass

Wow, calling diddy a jackass for reporting something in the freep is certainly a total Scout bitch move.

And actually, Beaver at Scout went to 51% with campbell going to UM. It's a done deal is pretty much what that means. That really means something was fishy with his "Michigan is out" statement. He's playin' the media. Prolly sick of all the stupid shit and guys like fillycheezesteak facebooking him all day long.

Campbell to UM now set at 52% by King Beaver.

Campbell to UM now set at 52% by King Beaver.

I thought you cancelled your account.

Couldn`t resists?

I actually called to cancel mine about a month ago, and they gave me 2 months free.

Yea, Zip!

53% as of tonight.

I'm hagning on every percentage point.

If it drops to 52%, does panic ensue?

54%

COMEEEEEEEE ONNNNNNN!!! DO I HEAR 60!!!??????

make it 100%. the commentators have been slobbering over cambpell all game, like hes the best prospect ever. they had only great things to say about him. im sure bu"kkk"dow will have some bad to say, however.

newsome is coming into the game to throw to gallon, should be interesting.

William Campbell is a big muthafucka... sounds like Shaq, too.

And now he's U of M.

Comments, Bukdow?

Haha. B-diddy and I posted the same thought (Bukdow) at the same time.

make it 100%. the commentators have been slobbering over cambpell all game, like hes the best prospect ever. they had only great things to say about him. im sure bu"kkk"dow will have some bad to say, however.

newsome is coming into the game to throw to gallon, should be interesting.

Woah.

The nice thing about this is Campbell is supposed to be an early enrollee--as he'll be in school within about a week.
No time for a decommittment. LOLZ

The nice thing about this is Campbell is supposed to be an early enrollee--as he'll be in school within about a week.
No time for a decommittment. LOLZ

He actually flies home tomorrow morning and he starts school on Monday. Hopefully there are no Louisiana Hookers at the airport or on the flight huh?

filly:
Has anyone ever told you that you are an extremely boring person? You seem to have all the imagination and creativity of a croquet mallet.

Good for UM, but I don`t see what all the hype is about this kid. He is big, but from what I can tell from video, his technique (footwork and spacing) is very bad. He may be able to get away with that in the poorly coached PSL, but he won`t in the Big Ten. And there is the rub. This kid is going to get smacked upside the head in the Big Ten because everyone is big and powerful. How will he respond? Will he take to the seemingly average coaching he will be exposed to in Ann Arbor? Will he pout and become disinterested when he is no longer BMOC, but just another player trying to earn time? This is where I think Campbell falters as evidenced by his poor senior year highlighted only by cheapshots and showboating.

If you watched the All-American game yesterday you consistently heard people there referring to him and his freakish ability. Clearly they are all just confused and listened to one biased person, never watching him themselves, especially not against the best HS players in the country.
He sucks and UM will be lucky if he backs out again or transfers after next year. I hate Will Campbell and I hate Rich Rod for accepting his commitment.

Good for UM, but I don`t see what all the hype is about this kid. He is big, but from what I can tell from video, his technique (footwork and spacing) is very bad. He may be able to get away with that in the poorly coached PSL, but he won`t in the Big Ten. And there is the rub. This kid is going to get smacked upside the head in the Big Ten because everyone is big and powerful. How will he respond? Will he take to the seemingly average coaching he will be exposed to in Ann Arbor? Will he pout and become disinterested when he is no longer BMOC, but just another player trying to earn time? This is where I think Campbell falters as evidenced by his poor senior year highlighted only by cheapshots and showboating.

I agree 100% with everything you said. I'm actually kind of wondering why the Army and Rivals.com would even bother sending him to San Antonio. I wonder if Campbell's scenario is similiar to what happened with Mike Golic's two sons. Both of Golic's sons were average high school players that were offered scholarships by Charlie Weiss because of their father and they immediately went from 2 star players up to 4 star players on rivals website. This must be a case of Rivals not knowing what the kid is really about. I think Bukdow is a great evaluater of college potential and with such an encompassing football background I think his opinion should be worshiped around here by us mere mortals.

Thanks Bukdow.

I used to check rivals and scout to get player evaluations, but from now on I'll check bukdow.com to get the latest info on how white redheaded stiffs are going to dominate for the next 4 years in East Lansing.

Speaking of a kid being a hype machine, did Edwin Baker have a brilliant showing in the game?

Wow. You people are pulling out all of the stops regarding this kid. Wait, I`ve seen this show before. I think it went by the name, "Sam McGuffie commits to UM".

I realize the ineptitude in Ann Arbor is evident, but get a grip.

Wow. You people are pulling out all of the stops regarding this kid. Wait, I`ve seen this show before. I think it went by the name, "Sam McGuffie commits to UM".

I realize the ineptitude in Ann Arbor is evident, but get a grip.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.

I still get a kick out of "The Big Bad Big Ten" stuff. Yeah, right. The evidence that the Big Ten is one hell of an ass-kicking conference comes out in full force every holliday bowl season, doesn't it? HAHAHLOLZ

bukdow: FAIL, once more.

Wow. You people are pulling out all of the stops regarding this kid. Wait, I`ve seen this show before. I think it went by the name, "Sam McGuffie commits to UM".

I realize the ineptitude in Ann Arbor is evident, but get a grip.



That kid is going to be a holy terror. He is actually going to be the back many of you think Hart is.

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Many thought that before his lack character became evident. However you guys want to spin it, Campbell was not only a show his entire senior season, but was remembered most for rather cowardly cheap shots. Especially in the SE game. Many would say the reason was because he was content to rest on his laurels. That is an attitude and appeoach that will not cut it in major D-1 football.

That is an attitude and approach that will not cut it in major D-1 football.

Good thing he's only going to Michigan then. AmIright?

Many thought that before his lack character became evident. However you guys want to spin it, Campbell was not only a no show his entire senior season, but was remembered most for rather cowardly cheap shots. Especially in the SE game. Many would say the reason was because he was content to rest on his laurels. That is an attitude and approach that will not cut it in major D-1 football.

Looks like ESPNU thinks Campbell is overrated as well.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=130&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d130

Looks like ESPNU thinks Campbell is overrated as well.

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Who cares if he`s overrated/underrated?

Fact is, I`d rather see whether or not he is or isn`t at UM rather than MSU.

Nice try bukdow, but your attempts to rationalize the state`s #1 recruit picking UM isn`t working.

And since when does ESPN have any credibility in recruiting rankings?? Aren`t they the same site which ranks UM commit Isaiah Bell (a 3 star on both Rivals & Scout) in their top 50?

Please. You are only trying to convince yourself.

Who cares if he`s overrated/underrated?

Fact is, I`d rather see whether or not he is or isn`t at UM rather than MSU.

Nice try bukdow, but your attempts to rationalize the state`s #1 recruit picking UM isn`t working.

And since when does ESPN have any credibility in recruiting rankings?? Aren`t they the same site which ranks UM commit Isaiah Bell (a 3 star on both Rivals & Scout) in their top 50?

Please. You are only trying to convince yourself.

It sounds like you are saying that he is wrong as has learned nothing.

Who cares if he`s overrated/underrated?

Fact is, I`d rather see whether or not he is or isn`t at UM rather than MSU.

Nice try bukdow, but your attempts to rationalize the state`s #1 recruit picking UM isn`t working.

And since when does ESPN have any credibility in recruiting rankings?? Aren`t they the same site which ranks UM commit Isaiah Bell (a 3 star on both Rivals & Scout) in their top 50?

Please. You are only trying to convince yourself.
This is exactly my point. UM and its followers are trying to hype this kid and his ranking up to show that UM really got an in-state player. When in reality, many who have looked at this kids body of work after his initial splash on the scene have come away somewhat less impressed. I have seen some recent in-state rankings that have Campbell #9 in Michigan and a 3-star recruit.

So, my point is this, UM got nothing more than a solid player who may or may not contribute at the next level. And most worrisome is the reason many believe he may not contribute at the next level is due to character and work ethic. So, congrats, you are welcome to him. I would much, much rather have the in-state kids MSU has.

What about the out of state one's UM has? Would you take your out of state haul too?

This is exactly my point. UM and its followers are trying to hype this kid and his ranking up to show that UM really got an in-state player.

But bukdow, Mich DID get an in-state player. The only 5 star one, no less.


When in reality, many who have looked at this kids body of work after his initial splash on the scene have come away somewhat less impressed.

Not true. From all that I've read, scouts have been raving about him since last year at the Army-combines.


I have seen some recent in-state rankings that have Campbell #9 in Michigan and a 3-star recruit.

Where have you seen these in-state rankings?? SpartanTailgate.com..??


So, my point is this, UM got nothing more than a solid player who may or may not contribute at the next level.

LOL! Isn't that what all recruits are like? Hit or miss. To assume Campbell will be one or the other, at this point, is wildly premature.


And most worrisome is the reason many believe he may not contribute at the next level is due to character and work ethic.

I have read nothing to suggest he has character flaws. By all accounts from what I've read he's done well academically and on the field.


I would much, much rather have the in-state kids MSU has

As if you had a choice. When's the last time MSU pulled 4 star kids out of California or Texas?? Why start now right? It's only gotten that program...nowhere.

This is exactly my point. UM and its followers are trying to hype this kid and his ranking up to show that UM really got an in-state player. When in reality, many who have looked at this kids body of work after his initial splash on the scene have come away somewhat less impressed. I have seen some recent in-state rankings that have Campbell #9 in Michigan and a 3-star recruit.

So, my point is this, UM got nothing more than a solid player who may or may not contribute at the next level. And most worrisome is the reason many believe he may not contribute at the next level is due to character and work ethic. So, congrats, you are welcome to him. I would much, much rather have the in-state kids MSU has.

Presenting a look at the 2009 Michigan State recruiting class!

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hahaha

I should probably lose a few points as a Michigan fan for this one, but I guess DeWayne Peace de-commited from Michigan today because he wants to play WR only and they were asking him to come in and play CB because we have a lack of depth.

The stupid part is that I totally thought he de-commited a few months ago and didn't even realize he was still part of our recruiting class...........HA HA HA HA.

Yeah, I'm not surprised on Peace, from some of the articles I read a couple months ago, it seemed like his dad was forcing him to stick with his commitment, regardless, it's not a big loss.

He was only a borderline 3 star to begin with.

Willie Haulstead or Je'Ron Stokes will take his place. Both of them are 4 stars.

Hall, Montgomery, Mingo and Robinson all expected this weekend.

Did they all make it?

What is King Beav writing about UM's chances with each?

And, are we in it still at all with Jelani Jenkins?

How much does DC choice impact these kids?

Hall, Montgomery, Mingo and Robinson all expected this weekend.

Did they all make it?

What is King Beav writing about UM's chances with each?

And, are we in it still at all with Jelani Jenkins?

How much does DC choice impact these kids?


They are all in this weekend, yes.

King Beav lists all at 'under 50%'...

The ones Beav lists as guys who could round out the class are Quinton Washington, Travis Bond, Je'Ron Stokes & Willie Haulstead

No, Mich is no longer in the hunt for Jelani Jenkins...

DC choice impact will be minimal. They're are rumblings that the DC at East Carolina (Hudson?) could be offered the job...

Marcus Hall lists Michigan as his leader right now.

He cancelled his visit to Illinois, and has official visits to Miami and Tennesse remaining. He might not take the Tennessee visit.

He says instant playing time is a very important factor in his decision, and apparently Michigan may be the best place to offer him quick PT.

Marcus Hall lists Michigan as his leader right now.

He cancelled his visit to Illinois, and has official visits to Miami and Tennesse remaining. He might not take the Tennessee visit.

He says instant playing time is a very important factor in his decision, and apparently Michigan may be the best place to offer him quick PT.

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Sam Montgomery lists Mich his leader after his weekend visit.

Denard Robinson was also quite impressed, but he didn't give a leader...

3 star TE Dion Sims officially committed to MSU...

worst kept secret in the world...

3 star TE Dion Sims officially committed to MSU...

worst kept secret in the world...

Cue Bukdow in 3........2...........1

3 star TE Dion Sims officially committed to MSU...

worst kept secret in the world...

3 star eh, LOL. 4 star according to Rivals, was the #2 TE in the country according to Scout before he decided to "focus on basketball."

3 star eh, LOL. 4 star according to Rivals, was the #2 TE in the country according to Scout before he decided to "focus on basketball."

3 star.

3 star.
Willy, when (rather if) you get off your parents` lap, the world is going to beat the shit out of you. You are such a spittle-faced punk. You have a lot of lessons unlearned.

Willy, when (rather if) you get off your parents` lap, the world is going to beat the shit out of you. You are such a spittle-faced punk. You have a lot of lessons unlearned.

Noted.

Thoughts on Dion Sims, bukdow?

Noted.

Thoughts on Dion Sims, bukdow?
I hope you do listen because the world has a way of taking a smart-ass like you who is used to parental assistance well into his twenties and grinding them up and spitting them out. Trust me.

As far as Sims goes, I think the kid has a ton of natural ability. I just worry about his obsession with basketball. He needs to fully concentrate on being an NFL TE, which I believe he can be, and put this god damn basketball shit away. I trust Dantonio and Izzo to be good stewards and direct him well. In that aspect he is lucky. He has two very knowledgable and honest people looking out for him. Therefore, I think the future is bright for the kid.

I hope you do listen because the world has a way of taking a smart-ass like you who is used to parental assistance well into his twenties.


Well into my twenties? bukdow, I've been 20 for not even 5 months.

As far as Sims goes, I think the kid has a ton of natural ability. I just worry about his obsession with basketball. He needs to fully concentrate on being an NFL TE, which I believe he can be, and put this god damn basketball shit away. I trust Dantonio and Izzo to be good stewards and direct him well. In that aspect he is lucky. He has two very knowledgable and honest people looking out for him. Therefore, I think the future is bright for the kid.

Do you think his dual-sport ability trumps that of the last guy at MSU who tried? (Trannon).

Which sport will he make the biggest impact in, in your opinion?

He's a legit NFL TE prospect. His specs on sites are drastically inflated. He's not 6'8", he's about 6'4"-6'5". He's a good high school bball player, MAC level talent. Spoke with him face to face so I can vouch on the height. He's not a MSU calibur bball player and if he plays it'll be basically junk minutes time after fball season.

He'll be fun to watch.

He's a legit NFL TE prospect.

Like Eric Knott was?

When his head is right, he's much closer to former Spartan Antonio Gates than he is to former Spartan Eric Knott. I'm not saying that's what to expect, I'm saying he's closer to that side. Like how the number 7 is closer to 10 than it is to the number 3. Get it?

I've got to defend Ledesma here, bukdow. Kid is 20, and he obviously has something that you don't have: Good parents (well, you prolly didn't have parents, period, just a rock to crawl out from under). I applaud the slow progression into adulthood and the way his moms and pops support his meditated, gradual ascension into a world that too many kids are tossed into without proper guidance and forethought. I assume that when the cops hauled your parents away when you were about 6 months old because they had another meth lab blow up in their garage, it was traumatic, and we all see the results here. You were left with nothing but a wedge and maul and a copy of Smithsonian to call "Mommy" or "Daddy".

Or perhaps they left you in a dumpster and you were carted off by a Wolverine and raised in the woods, and the Wolverine was somewhat abusive (we know that Wolverines are not nice creatures), thus your irrational hatred of Michigan, simply because the nickname of "Wolverines" reminds you of a parent that did nothing but drag home dead deer carcasses and force you to cook up the carrion, take out the garbage, and eventually he grew so lazy that you had to go forage in the woods for rotting flesh for dinner. Sad.

But Will has parents who are teaching him the value of education, the value of a dollar, and he will probably go on to own the establishments that you in turn will raid the dumpsters of for dinner and home decorations.

Bravo Will' parents! If I didn't hate my kids so much, I might do the same thing!

Holy shit.

I've got to defend Ledesma here, bukdow. Kid is 20, and he obviously has something that you don't have: Good parents (well, you prolly didn't have parents, period, just a rock to crawl out from under). I applaud the slow progression into adulthood and the way his moms and pops support his meditated, gradual ascension into a world that too many kids are tossed into without proper guidance and forethought. I assume that when the cops hauled your parents away when you were about 6 months old because they had another meth lab blow up in their garage, it was traumatic, and we all see the results here. You were left with nothing but a wedge and maul and a copy of Smithsonian to call "Mommy" or "Daddy".

Or perhaps they left you in a dumpster and you were carted off by a Wolverine and raised in the woods, and the Wolverine was somewhat abusive (we know that Wolverines are not nice creatures), thus your irrational hatred of Michigan, simply because the nickname of "Wolverines" reminds you of a parent that did nothing but drag home dead deer carcasses and force you to cook up the carrion, take out the garbage, and eventually he grew so lazy that you had to go forage in the woods for rotting flesh for dinner. Sad.

But Will has parents who are teaching him the value of education, the value of a dollar, and he will probably go on to own the establishments that you in turn will raid the dumpsters of for dinner and home decorations.

Bravo Will' parents! If I didn't hate my kids so much, I might do the same thing!
As expected you miss the point. I too am in favor of a slow rearing and benefitted from one myself. As did all of my friends. Hell, our parents financed travel and relocations in addition to education. My point regarding Willy is that he seems to be one of those smart-asses that instead of learning and benefitting from a slow rearing instead developes a sense of entitlement, greed and a general lack of understanding and empathy. In short, a mean-spirited, unrealized little shit. As evidenced by his proclamation he is attending one of the top business schools in America when in reality it is nothing more than an accounting training school akin to Ross Medical Tech (or whatever it is called).

I saw this happen to a couple of guys in our group and they all sounded like Willy when they were 20. Just little smart-asses that didn`t learn the lessons in front of them.

Sorry to hear you hate your kids, Zippy.

As expected you miss the point. I too am in favor of a slow rearing and benefitted from one myself. As did all of my friends.


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Ah, yes, the last refuge of a nudge, nudge, wink, wink and all that rot.

bukdow, I have only one message for you!

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anyone want to post an over / under on the age bukdow stopped breastfeeding (assuming he stopped).

this is the most disturbing twist yet in the legend of bukdow. i always assumed bukky was still livning out of mom's basement, but this whole slow rearing from mommy stuff is way more disturbing.

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Now that I think about it, bukdow is pretty 'Norman Bates-ish'...

Creepy.

Sounds like Graves and Jones will be the next recruits UM didn`t really need anyway.

Sounds like Graves and Jones will be the next recruits UM didn`t really need anyway.

ha ha ha, Was this from your "inside source" or did you see it on the front page at "The Wolverine" or is it simply because they've both been taking visits for a couple of weeks now...............oddly enough right after WC committed?

How much does it piss you off that we have TONS of de-commitments and yet our recruiting class is still ranked higher than yours? Nothing like basking in the glow of Michigan losing a few recruits to build up the Sparties. I'm slowly starting to see how the other half lives now.

ha ha ha, Was this from your "inside source" or did you see it on the front page at "The Wolverine" or is it simply because they've both been taking visits for a couple of weeks now...............oddly enough right after WC committed?

How much does it piss you off that we have TONS of de-commitments and yet our recruiting class is still ranked higher than yours? Nothing like basking in the glow of Michigan losing a few recruits to build up the Sparties. I'm slowly starting to see how the other half lives now.

Yeah, keep an eye on it, cuz unless Rodriguez gets his shit together real quick, you'll start to see how the "other half" lives real fucking quick.

Losing Graves & DQ would suck.

But if they can get Montgomery, he trumps both of them.

Losing Graves & DQ would suck.

But if they can get Montgomery, he trumps both of them.

You read the same shit on Scout that I do, so I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but it is looking more like this class is going to end up around 20, unless Rodriguez pulls another late rush or just passes out a few scholarships to get some depth and practice players. I still kind of wonder about guys like Zack Matthias (who is committed to Wisconsin). It's funny how the Scout mentality is that Rodriguez is great at finding "diamonds in the ruff"--as long as they aren't found in Michigan. I never got that.
Anyway, recruiting to Michigan is a tough sell. I've always gone against the thought process that Michigan just recruits itself. To a point, yeah, any big school does, especially with kids in your own back yard. But seeing how lousy this team was last year, combined with the lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball, you'd figure this class would be bulging at the seams, and with more sought after players. But it really isn't happening, and to me it's still a headscratcher that guys like Newsome and McNeal decommitted, and Jones and Graves might also.

This quote from bukdow kind of says it all: "Hey, I walk around with a wedge and maul stuck up my ass, and Michigan needs a Big Time, almost transcendental coach who can lure top talent from all over the country, otherwise, they're a glorified Wisconsin"

DQ has been looking around and listed as a "soft commit" for at least a month. Pearlie would be nice to hang on to though. He looks mean and nasty and would be great depth at the position. Right now we have Martin, Campbell, and little else there. Running a 3-4 doesn't require as much depth, but I can't imagine you would want to keep one of those two off the field. All the talk of 3-4 is actually probably hurting the recruitment of DL since they know there are two beasts in there already and PT will be limited. If RR came out and said they would use situational packages (a la Jim Schwartz) he would probably have better success hanging on to these guys.

Now, last years rush on signing day was nice because it brought in some solid guys. However, I'm not all for signing kids just to sign them. If we only end up with 20, that's better than 25 with the last 5 going to guys who would be lucky to walk-on. I would rather sign the 20 and have more open scholarships for next years class. But, in the end, I would MUCH rather have the full 25 signed and have it include guys like D Rob, Montgomery, etc.

I'm actually confused by how heavily we're still recruiting DE, unless they're turning some into OLB's and some into DT's.

Graves is as good as gone

The thing about DQ, is that he's never been to Ann Arbor.

I think he comes next week.

I'm not sure whats up with Pearlie Graves. The kid committed not long ago (I think mid-to-late November). Usually when a kid is wavering, it's because he committed 6-12 months before signing day, not less than 3 months, which is Pearlie's case.

We'll see how it plays out. Doesn't seem like theres much reason to be optomistic on either, at this point.

Well, I actually have a feeling that both end up in Ann Arbor. From what I have gathered, Graves has wanted Oklahoma to offer (I don't think they have or will), and DeQuinta will probably have a good visit. King Beaver says Tennessee is the comptition for Graves IIRC, But BFD: UM or Tennessee?

These two have reportedly been recruited by Jay Hopson: Ace Recruiting Demon of the South who, IMO, is about as big a waste as there is on this staff.

I don't know if it's Michigan angst, but the prevailing belief is that Hopson wants to go back down south ASAP (Dumb fuck apparently is married and the thought is his beeyotch don't like it up nawth either).

I'm starting to wonder if Rodriguez was left with his dick swinging in the wind when Casteel decided to stay at WVU and now just doesn't know what to do on defense.

The thing about DQ, is that he's never been to Ann Arbor.

I think he comes next week.

I'm not sure whats up with Pearlie Graves. The kid committed not long ago (I think mid-to-late November). Usually when a kid is wavering, it's because he committed 6-12 months before signing day, not less than 3 months, which is Pearlie's case.

We'll see how it plays out. Doesn't seem like theres much reason to be optomistic on either, at this point.

Then there's the Jai Eugene story. That sucked. Dude commits on TV at the Army AA game and switches to LSU later on (a blow softened by us pulling Jonas Mouton from USC, though I don't think Mouton had verbaled).

As for Jay Hopson, I'm hearing that he's to blame for the Barnes decommit. Apparently Barnes loved Tall (D-Line coach), and committed because of that strong relationship, but met Hopson and didn't like him at all. Knowing Hopson would be his direct position coach he backed out realizing he couldn't play for that dude for 3+ years. I think Hopson can recruit kids from the south to stay in the south, but his pull just isn't everything they thought it would be. Fred Jackson is much better as a recruiter to the south. Now we know why those rumors about Hopson becoming the DC have died. I'm not sure the LB's got much from him.

I'm not sure who the players will respond to, and I wonder if there really is that much of a problem from the coaching angle in joining the mountain-top family. Players seem to either get in or not and stick with it once they do, but there must be something behind closed doors with coaches that doesn't click. The guys that came with RR know what he's about and know their place. Newcomers don't seem to adapt very quickly.

This is why they need to have an early signing day period.

Can we even count on Ricardo Miller staying committed for the next 13 months? I wish I could say for sure.

An early signing period won't do jack shit. The games will just start that much earlier. Everyone wants to blame the kids, but they have grown men massaging their feet for them from the time they're in Pee Wee ball. It's just another ruse to further trap kids and force their hand.
I mean, it's only the most important decision of their lives up to that point, FUCK 'EM!

Beaver seems to like UM's odds at getting both Denard Robinson & Adrian Witty...

Personally, I don't see Denard having any future at QB, and apparently it's the only reason he's been listening to Michigan. Wouldn't shock me to see him commit and then move to corner by year 2.

As a QB, Denard's film doesn't impress me anymore than Feagins' did, and Lord knows Feagin is nothing more than roster fodder if he stays at QB.

But I could be wrong...Pat White wasn't exactly an ideal QB either...

You are partly right, Will: You could be wrong.

Marcus Hall to O$U...

He played a good tease a couple weeks ago.

Did we get Pryor? Twins said it was a lock...

4 star 8th ranked OG Quinton Washington to UM.

4 star 8th ranked OG Quinton Washington to UM.

Doesn't matter, don't you read Bukdow's posts. We lost out on Norman, Baker, Caper and Sims so we are just god awful.

Doesn't matter, don't you read Bukdow's posts. We lost out on Norman, Baker, Caper and Sims so we are just god awful.

True, but I needed it for purposes of false hope. It's the only way I sleep at night.

Is this "safe" to unsticky?

I don't want to upset Tom Lemming.