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Uncle Mxy
01-24-2008, 08:42 AM
Lie 'till you die, Kwame...

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/NEWS05/801240414&theme=KILPATRICK082007


Mayor Kilpatrick, chief of staff lied under oath, text messages show
Romantic exchanges undercut denials

January 24, 2008

BY JIM SCHAEFER and M.L. ELRICK

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS COPYRIGHT ©2008, DETROIT FREE PRESS

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his chief of staff lied about their relationship last summer at a police whistle-blower trial that has cost the cash-strapped city more than $9 million, according to records obtained by the Free Press.

The false testimony potentially exposes them to felony perjury charges, legal experts say.

Kilpatrick and chief of staff Christine Beatty denied during testimony in August that they had a sexual relationship. But the records, a series of text messages, show them engaged in romantic banter as well as planning and recounting sexual liaisons.

The messages are also at odds with the pair's trial testimony that they did not fire Deputy Police Chief Gary Brown in 2003, an ouster that led him to sue. The text messages show Beatty recalling the "decision that we made to fire Gary Brown."

The newspaper examined nearly 14,000 text messages on Beatty's city-issued pager. The exchanges, which the Free Press obtained after the trial, cover two months each in 2002 and 2003.

The Kilpatrick-Beatty relationship and Brown's dismissal were central to the whistle-blower suit filed by Brown and Harold Nelthrope, a former police officer and mayoral bodyguard. The two cops accused Kilpatrick of retaliating against them because of their roles in an internal affairs investigation of the mayor's security team -- a probe that potentially could have exposed the affair.

The Free Press sought interviews with Kilpatrick and Beatty, but they declined.

Late Wednesday, the mayor released a statement that said the text messages were "profoundly embarrassing" and "reflect a very difficult period" in his life.

"My wife and I worked our way through these intensely personal issues years ago," he wrote.

The mayor's statement did not address his or Beatty's trial testimony.

The text messages cover a range of issues, from the daily minutiae of city business to political gossip to the latest doings on "American Idol." Kilpatrick and Beatty, both 37, exchanged personal messages almost daily, including romantic notes.

"I'm madly in love with you," Kilpatrick wrote on Oct. 3, 2002.

"I hope you feel that way for a long time," Beatty answered. "In case you haven't noticed, I am madly in love with you, too!"

Other texts contain sexual content, like this exchange on April 8, 2003:

Beatty: "And, did you miss me, sexually?"

Kilpatrick: "Hell yeah! You couldn't tell. I want some more. "

SkyTel, the Mississippi-based company that provided text devices to the city, confirmed the existence of messages to the Free Press.

The city has tried since 2004 to keep the text messages under wraps. It fought in court to keep them from being provided to the legal team for the former cops and went to court this month in an effort to kill a subpoena issued in a Free Press suit to learn more about the settlement.

If Kilpatrick and Beatty are found to have committed perjury, they could face up to 15 years in prison under state law.

Peter Henning, a professor of criminal law at Wayne State University, said "there is a basis to raise a question whether this is perjury." He added that proving perjury is difficult. "It's rare that you get a question that is so clear that it is obviously perjury," he said.

He added that prosecutors may initiate an investigation on their own.

Maria Miller, a spokeswoman for Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, declined comment Wednesday.

Wayne County Circuit Judge Michael Callahan, who oversaw the whistle-blower trial, was shown excerpts of text messages Wednesday. It was the first time he had seen them.

He said he is unlikely to take action, given that the case has been settled, but would cooperate if a prosecutor decides to investigate.

"If it happened during the case, they would feel the fury of my wrath, but it's over," Callahan said. "Now, I wish I had seen the messages."

Kilpatrick, a lawyer, could also face discipline if the state Attorney Discipline Board finds he lied in court.

Lying under oath is one of the worst sins a lawyer can commit -- akin to stealing a client's money, legal experts said.

"It's literally the equivalent of the death penalty for a law license," said Michael Schwartz, former administrator of the Michigan Attorney Grievance Commission, which investigates lawyers.

The head of the grievance commission, Robert Agacinski, declined to say Wednesday if he would investigate.

Beatty, a Wayne State law student, may face hurdles to obtaining a law license if she lied to or deceived a court.

Mike Stefani, the lawyer for the former cops, said he was not surprised the mayor's testimony was contradicted by the text messages.

"I know he perjured himself," Stefani said. "And I was maintaining that throughout the trial."

Taxpayers hit

The costly settlement of the whistle-blower suit was a financial blow to a city that is struggling to provide services to residents and is selling assets to raise money.

Kilpatrick balked at early efforts to settle the 2003 suit and continued to fight even after his attorneys learned in 2004 that the damaging messages might eventually surface in the case.

In June of that year, a mediation panel urged the city to pay Brown and Nelthrope $2.25 million to drop the suits. The city and Kilpatrick rejected the recommendation. So did the cops, although Stefani, their lawyer, said the city never made a settlement offer over the next three years.

At the trial last summer, the mayor and Beatty denied a romantic relationship. Both were married at the time of the text messages; Beatty later divorced.

Stefani asked Beatty the following question when she was on the stand Aug. 28:

"During the time period 2001 to 2003, were you and Mayor Kilpatrick either romantically or intimately involved with each other?"

Rolling her eyes, Beatty answered: "No."

Kilpatrick testified for more than three hours the next day.

Stefani asked him: "Mayor Kilpatrick, during 2002 and 2003 were you romantically involved with Christine Beatty?"

Kilpatrick's response: "No."

The messages show otherwise: They arranged trysts in area hotels and on business trips and exchanged messages that were unmistakably sexual.

The Free Press is not publishing some of those exchanges because of their explicit nature.

"I've been dreaming all day about having you all to myself for 3 days," the mayor wrote on Oct. 16, 2002. "Relaxing, laughing, talking, sleeping and making love."

During the trial, Kilpatrick bristled when testifying about speculation that he and Beatty were lovers.

"I think it was pretty demoralizing to her -- you have to know her -- but it's demoralizing to me as well," he said. "My mother is a congresswoman. There have always been strong women around me. My aunt is a state legislator. I think it's absurd to assert that every woman that works with a man is a whore. I think it's disrespectful not just to Christine Beatty but to women who do a professional job that they do every single day. And it's also disrespectful to their families as well."

Times of conflict

The dates covered by the text messages are significant because they surround two controversial periods of the mayor's first term in office.

The first batch -- September through October 2002 -- book-ends the purported date of a never-proven wild party at the Manoogian Mansion, the city's mayoral residence. Nelthrope mentioned rumors of strippers and an assault at the alleged party to internal affairs investigators. The second batch -- April-May 2003 -- covers the weeks before and after Brown's ouster as head of internal affairs. Brown had wanted to investigate Nelthrope's allegations.

The text messages suggest Kilpatrick and Beatty intended to fire Brown, even though they and their lawyers said in court they meant only to remove him from his post overseeing internal affairs.

"He was not fired," Kilpatrick testified. "My understanding is he could go back to lieutenant ... but I think Mr. Brown chose to retire."

The text messages, however, use "fire" to describe Brown's departure. On May 15, 2003, Beatty wrote to Kilpatrick: "I'm sorry that we are going through this mess because of a decision that we made to fire Gary Brown. I will make sure that the next decision is much more thought out. Not regretting what was done at all. But thinking about how we can do things smarter."

Kilpatrick replied: "It had to happen though. I'm all the way with that!"

Personal history

Beatty and Kilpatrick have been friends since attending Detroit Cass Technical High School together in the mid-1980s. Beatty has run all of his election campaigns, including his winning bid for state representative in 1996. He has praised her as an indefatigable and tough negotiator who helped the city wrest concessions from labor unions.

But she has also been a source of controversy. One notable example came in 2004, after Detroit police pulled her over for allegedly speeding.

The cops say she pointedly asked them: "Do you know who the (expletive) I am?" before calling Detroit Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings. Beatty later acknowledged calling the chief from her cell phone, but denied pulling rank on the officers. She was never ticketed.

Kilpatrick also has been a longtime friend of Lou Beatty, who was married to Christine Beatty until their 2006 divorce.

At the trial in the whistle-blower suit, Kilpatrick testified: "Lou Beatty grew up three houses down from me. We played on the same Little League team. He played football with me, yes, at Cass Tech. ... At 6 o'clock he'll be coaching my sons."

In Washington

In 2002, among their intimate text conversations, Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty planned a clandestine meeting in the mayor's Washington hotel room during the Congressional Black Caucus annual legislative conference.

Beatty asked the mayor, on Sept. 12, 2002, if she could "come and lay down in your room until you get back?"

The next morning Kilpatrick, referring to his bodyguards, wrote: "They were right outside the door. They had to have heard everything."

Beatty replied: "So we are officially busted!"

"Damn that," Kilpatrick responded. "Never busted. Busted is what you see!"

The text traffic appears to lend credence to allegations made by Walt Harris, a former mayoral bodyguard who filed his own whistle-blower suit. Harris said he was punished for supporting Nelthrope's reports of wrongdoing by Kilpatrick and his bodyguards.

His lawsuit claimed, among other things, that Beatty met alone with the mayor in Kilpatrick's hotel room during the Washington trip in 2002.

Kilpatrick later told reporters Harris was making up stories to get money from the city.

On May 14, 2003, Kilpatrick and Beatty traded text messages about another late-night tryst in a Washington hotel. The next day, Kilpatrick stood on the steps of the Manoogian Mansion and spoke of his devotion to family and God amid a frenzy of news reports that Brown was fired for looking into rumors of the Manoogian party.

The verdict

In September, a Wayne County jury concluded Brown and Nelthrope were victims of retaliation and found in their favor, awarding Brown $3.9 million and Nelthrope $2.6 million.

Kilpatrick's public response was: "I'm absolutely blown away at this decision, and I know Detroiters are, too."

The next morning, on Sept. 12, Kilpatrick told a WJLB-FM (97.9) radio audience why he had refused to settle the case.

"I thought that the people of the city of Detroit needed to have an opportunity to hear the truth, they needed to see me sit in the chair," he said. "They saw that." He vowed an appeal.

Then, in October, Kilpatrick abruptly settled the case, as well as the suit brought by Harris, for a combined $8.4 million. Legal costs have pushed the total to more than $9 million.

"Since the verdict," Kilpatrick told residents in a statement, "I've listened to pastors, business leaders and so many Detroiters who genuinely love and care about me and this city. I've humbly concluded that a settlement ... is the correct decision for my family and the entire Detroit community."

Kilpatrick's decision to settle pleased Detroit City Council members, who swiftly approved the deal.

Harris received $400,000. Records show Kilpatrick could have settled that case two years ago for $100,000 -- but he rejected the mediators' recommendation.

Because they were sued in their roles as city officials, Kilpatrick and Beatty did not personally have to pay the costs from the $9-million legal fight.

b-diddy
01-24-2008, 12:56 PM
doesnt even bother me at all anymore. detroit voted him in. detroit re-elected him even though every one knew this stuff. and the people who voted for him (and sadly, against him) are the ones paying the tab on these never ever should have happened law suits.

im glad as hell i got out of detroit. talk about lost causes.

Glenn
01-24-2008, 01:06 PM
I think this is going to sink him.

WTFchris
01-24-2008, 01:43 PM
I still can't understand how he got re-elected.

Black Dynamite
01-24-2008, 03:00 PM
I still can't understand how he got re-elected.
No legit candidates against him. Getting a city council Puppet in Freeman Hendrix doesnt really fix anything. Since Archer gave up fighting the idiots in city government, aint too many people out there willing to take on the task of running Detroit.

With that said, you'd have to be an idiot to text anything incriminating ever these new days on wiretapping. .

Uncle Mxy
01-24-2008, 03:01 PM
He out-debated Hendrix, and got a timely bump from the Rosa Parks funeral.

The interesting question is -- how did the Freep get these records?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080123/NEWS05/301230003/0/NEWS05


Afterward, the Free Press asked the city for all records relating to the settlement, under the state Freedom of Information Act. The city provided a settlement agreement, but the paper sued the city for additional records it contended were related to the deal.

In addition, the Free Press sent a subpoena to Skytel's headquarters in Jackson, Miss., seeking the text records Stefani first tried to get in 2004.

The city went to court in an effort to kill the newspaper's subpoena. City attorney Ellen Ha, in an e-mail to Free Press attorney Herschel Fink, also tried to get the Free Press to promise that it would not "seek to obtain ... records by any other means" until the judge had made a ruling.

The Free Press refused.

In seeking the records, the Free Press explored numerous avenues, eventually obtaining the text messages independent of the subpoena.

Fool
01-24-2008, 03:33 PM
Mxy asking the question makes it rhetorical.

b-diddy
01-24-2008, 08:58 PM
i thought freeman hendrix was an excellent candidate. he was a little dry, at times, but if you listened to one of his good speaches you could tell he was really passionate about detroit. and, i dont know, if there were ever an election where i would question the results, it would be the 05 detroit mayoral election. kilpatric wins by razor thin margins after trailing in all the polls? dubious. ad that w/ the out of no-where charge of domestic abuse to his son (at the worst time possible) and that election was dirty as shit.

ps: hendrix was not some detroit city council puppet. he was a major piece of dennis archer's administration and had also had an otherwise successful career.

just another example of gutz talking about things he has no idea about.

WTFchris
01-24-2008, 09:29 PM
i thought freeman hendrix was an excellent candidate. he was a little dry, at times, but if you listened to one of his good speaches you could tell he was really passionate about detroit. and, i dont know, if there were ever an election where i would question the results, it would be the 05 detroit mayoral election. kilpatric wins by razor thin margins after trailing in all the polls? dubious. ad that w/ the out of no-where charge of domestic abuse to his son (at the worst time possible) and that election was dirty as shit.

ps: hendrix was not some detroit city council puppet. he was a major piece of dennis archer's administration and had also had an otherwise successful career.

just another example of gutz talking about things he has no idea about.

I liked him as well.

geerussell
01-24-2008, 10:59 PM
Hendrix was too "old guard" to win. If there'd been a candidate that represented any kind of new direction, Kilpatrick wouldn't have gotten a second term.

Of course this is going to be the death knell for him though. There's just no way, no way at all he comes back from this to win another election. If he's got an ounce of sense he won't even try.

It's not that he cheated on his wife (really, who cares) it's that his coverup cost the city $9 million. He can duck that and run out the clock on his current term but there's just no way he can campaign with any legitimacy after that. I do think it's unlikely they'll bring him up on perjury charges though. With the case being closed and him having lost it, the prosecutor will probably let it lie.

b-diddy
01-24-2008, 11:11 PM
i thought the same thing in 05. depends on who he runs against. i heard the 'not black enough' shit about freman, probably coming out of the kwame camp. kwame is good at playing his cards. he has no problem blaming the burbs, ala coleman young.

its impossible to underestimate the voting base of detroit, imo. the literacy rate in detroit is something like 60% (or was it worse). i hate to sound so anti-detroit, but its failed city. everyone in the world knows it. the solution isnt coming out of the 313, or MI. the fed is gonna have to bail it out, if its ever gonna get bailed out.

i will say this though: oil is high, gonna go down a bit in the short term, but the price is gonna go way up. the suburbs are gonna wilt and city centers everywhere are going to prosper again, when people realize driving 50 miles a day to work on gas that cost 4, 5, or 10 dollars a gallon isnt such a great idea.

geerussell
01-25-2008, 04:18 AM
i will say this though: oil is high, gonna go down a bit in the short term, but the price is gonna go way up. the suburbs are gonna wilt and city centers everywhere are going to prosper again, when people realize driving 50 miles a day to work on gas that cost 4, 5, or 10 dollars a gallon isnt such a great idea.
I don't care if gas goes to 50 dollars a gallon, the "I'd rather die than live in detroit" crowd is hardcore and their name is legion. People will carpool, pony up for smart buses, find new jobs, leave the state, eat a bullet... or any of a hundred other options before going back to the city.

This is one of, if not the most racially polarized areas in the entire country and I don't think it's realistic to expect it to change in our lifetimes.

MikeMyers
01-27-2008, 10:18 AM
i thought the same thing in 05. depends on who he runs against. i heard the 'not black enough' shit about freman, probably coming out of the kwame camp. kwame is good at playing his cards. he has no problem blaming the burbs, ala coleman young.

its impossible to underestimate the voting base of detroit, imo. the literacy rate in detroit is something like 60% (or was it worse). i hate to sound so anti-detroit, but its failed city. everyone in the world knows it. the solution isnt coming out of the 313, or MI. the fed is gonna have to bail it out, if its ever gonna get bailed out.

i will say this though: oil is high, gonna go down a bit in the short term, but the price is gonna go way up. the suburbs are gonna wilt and city centers everywhere are going to prosper again, when people realize driving 50 miles a day to work on gas that cost 4, 5, or 10 dollars a gallon isnt such a great idea.

The average car in Japan gets 45 mpg. It will be the end of the large pickup truck and monster SUV. Don't see Detroit having a resurgence because of gas prices. Nobody is going to move down there because their are no jobs. I went to the auto show last weekend and did not realize how many empty buildings their were until I was on the people mover. Personally I find it sad. I wish we had a downtown.

MikeMyers
01-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Juicy Kwame stuff

http://www.firejerryo.com/

Glenn
02-16-2008, 01:26 PM
KGG-PDWv6hA

Timone
02-16-2008, 01:28 PM
lol'ed while rolling all over my floor.

Uncle Mxy
02-16-2008, 08:51 PM
"looks like Scottie Pippen" -- priceless!

Uncle Mxy
03-01-2008, 11:03 PM
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080228/NEWS01/802280403/1003/news

Glenn
03-24-2008, 11:34 AM
Kilpatrick charged in text-messaging sex scandal

By Corey Williams
Associated Press Writer

THIS STORY WILL BE UPDATED

Kwame Kilpatrick, a one-time rising star in American urban politics who embraced his "Hip-Hop Mayor" image as Detroit's youngest elected leader, was charged Monday with perjury and other counts after sexually explicit text messages surfaced that appear to contradict his sworn denials of an affair with a top aide.

Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy also charged the charismatic and popular yet polarizing 37-year-old mayor with obstruction of justice and misconduct in office.

Former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty, 37, who also denied under oath that she and Kilpatrick shared a romantic relationship in 2002 and 2003, was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice.

In all, Worthy authorized a 12-count criminal information.

"This case was about as far from being a private matter as one can get. Honesty and integrity in the justice system is everything. That is what this case is about," Worthy said at a news conference.

"Just when did honesty and integrity, truth and honor become traits to be mocked, downplayed, ignored, laughed at or excuses made for them? When did telling the truth become a supporting player to everything else?"

The charges could signal the end of Kilpatrick's six-year career as mayor of one of America's largest cities.

Perjury is a felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison. But for Kilpatrick, a conviction also would mean his immediate expulsion from office. The Detroit City Charter calls for any elected official convicted of a felony while in office to be removed.

Kilpatrick has said he would not resign and last week said he expects to be vindicated when all aspects of the scandal are made public.

The mayor's office was expected to release a statement following Worthy's news conference.

Worthy said she expected the mayor and Beatty to turn themselves in no later than 7 a.m. Tuesday.

Tahoe
03-24-2008, 01:02 PM
Just watched the presser.

Detroit needs its mayor working, not defending himself.

Black Dynamite
03-24-2008, 10:34 PM
Kwame fucked himself. From killing the stripper from his denied party(a lil extreme response to her blackmail attempt), to firing the detective who wanted to investigate it. The fat fuck thinks he's the mafia at this point and his arrogance has fucked him in the ass a million times over. I hate the idea of that other fat fuck replacing him. But its not like Kwame is giving people much choice.

geerussell
05-06-2008, 10:59 PM
Kwame made the daily show. Our shame is complete.

Uncle Mxy
05-08-2008, 04:17 PM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=167895

Uncle Mxy
07-11-2008, 01:26 PM
I wonder if this has any implications for Kwame:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080620-x-rated-sms-case-gives-employees-some-privacy-guarantees.html

geerussell
07-11-2008, 03:38 PM
I wonder if this has any implications for Kwame:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080620-x-rated-sms-case-gives-employees-some-privacy-guarantees.html

I don't know if it will help Kwame or not but it definitely strikes me as a good thing.

Glenn
08-07-2008, 11:16 AM
Detroit mayor ordered jailed after bond violation
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has been ordered to the county jail after a judge found the mayor violated the terms of his bond by going to Canada and not informing the court.

lollers

MoTown
08-07-2008, 02:50 PM
One night hardly seems worth it.

Black Dynamite
08-07-2008, 03:22 PM
Jail him on business trips, do nothing when he isn't doing his job?

Kwame and City Council may be at odds, but they have one thing in common.

They both need to go.

Glenn
08-08-2008, 11:13 AM
lawl


Mayor charged with assault
By Crain's Detroit Business

Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox has charged Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick with assault in connection with a confrontation between Kilpatrick and a sheriff's detective. Detective Brian White claims he was pushed while trying to serve a subpoena on the mayor's friend.

In a morning news conference, Cox said there's enough information to charge Kilpatrick with assault.

On July 24, investigators with the prosecutor's office, seeking to serve a subpoena on Kilpatrick friend Bobby Ferguson, stopped at the Detroit home of the mayor's sister.

The officers testified that Kilpatrick burst onto the porch, shouting obscenities and shoving White. The detective also claims he suffered a slight hip fracture in the incident.

Kilpatrick was already out on bond for his perjury case. The next day, Judge Ronald Giles changed the conditions of Kilpatrick's bond, and ordered the mayor to submit to drug testing and post a $7,500 bond. Giles also limited the mayor's ability to travel.

The mayor is also facing legal problems for allegedly violating those conditions when he took a quick trip to Windsor on July 23rd.

Tahoe
08-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Jesus Christ homes...stop digging.

Big Swami
08-10-2008, 05:21 PM
Jesus Christ homes...stop digging.

Kwame keeps wanting to represent his street cred, but the streets haven't taught him a goddamn thing. People with real wisdom know when to hit the bricks.

WTFchris
08-12-2008, 10:28 AM
In trouble yet again I see.


DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- A prosecutor on Monday accused Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick of violating his bond in an assault case by spending time over the weekend with his sister, one of 11 witnesses listed by authorities.
Kilpatrick and Ayanna Kilpatrick were together at their mother's house Saturday, a day after he was released from jail for violating bond in a separate perjury case, said Doug Baker of the Michigan attorney general's office.


The mayor is charged with assaulting two investigators who were trying to deliver a subpoena at his sister's house in July in the perjury case.
In a court filing, Baker said the mayor had been ordered to have no contact with witnesses.
Kilpatrick's defense team, however, believes the mayor is not in any trouble. Attorney Jim Thomas said Magistrate Renee McDuffee clarified Friday that Kilpatrick could have contact with his sister.

Glenn
08-26-2008, 04:17 PM
Granholm is going to preside over a hearing about Kwame on Sept. 3 to decide if she will oust him or not.

This might be entertaining.

Black Dynamite
08-27-2008, 01:49 AM
If she does, please dont replace him with that cockhead jr guy.

http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/Legislative/CityCouncil/Members/KCockrel/Graphics/kCockrel_oval2.jpg

Uncle Mxy
08-27-2008, 08:59 AM
I don't think Granholm wouid be doing the appointing. It'd probably be him for the short term, but I think the idea would be that if you get him out now, you have enough time to elect someone in November.

Who would you want if not Ken Cockrel Jr.? Dave Bing?

Black Dynamite
08-27-2008, 09:06 AM
Who would you want if not Ken Cockrel Jr.? Dave Bing?
Dave Bing would be fine as long as i can get some more info on his policy. But more than that he's not part of this shithole shitstorm that has shitted it's way on to the mayor, City Council, and City Government. All moves within that circle are lateral and useless to the city. And Cockhead Jr's eagerness to politic his dickheaded ass into the seat disturbs me for some reason.

Uncle Mxy
09-03-2008, 08:53 PM
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080903/NEWS01/80903095


Kilpatrick could plead guilty at 9 a.m. if deal reached on jail time

By JIM SCHAEFER, M.L. ELRICK and JOE SWICKARD • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS • September 3, 2008

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick spent tonight wrestling with whether to enter a plea deal when he enters a downtown courtroom this morning, a move that will cost him his job — even his freedom — but will finally end a scandal that has swamped the city and state for nearly eight months.
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After a frenetic evening, when a tentative plea deal was alternately announced by the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office and then postponed, Kilpatrick is due in court Thursday at 9 a.m. before Wayne Circuit Judge David Groner in his criminal perjury case stemming from the text message scandal. A plea deal could be announced there — if all sides commit.

James Thomas, one of Kilpatrick’s attorneys, said this evening the mayor was negotiating jail time, which would be a change in Kilpatrick’s earlier reported stance that he would not agree to any deal that would put him behind bars.

“I am told that part of the negotiation is related to jail time,” Thomas said. “I’m not sure what the final agreement is, but you can expect that that was probably one of the most important parts of the agreement.”

One personfamiliar with this evening’s negotiations said jail time would be part of the deal, if it is reached, but the person would not commit to a specific number of days.

Also being negotiated was the 38-year-old Kilpatrick’s potential ability to run for future office and the terms and length of any probation he might receive. The mayor wanted more time to consider the situation, the person said, explaining why this afternoon’s court hearing was canceled.

At one point this afternoon, Kilpatrick met with his department directors and staff at a regular meeting. The subject of his criminal case was raised, said a source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because it was a private meeting. The subject of the mayor’s leaving office came up, but Kilpatrick did not commit one way or the other and urged his top staff to remain focused, this source said.

Meanwhile, Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who began historic proceedings today to help her decide whether she will remove Kilpatrick from office, postponed Day 2 of her own hearing by an hour Thursday, to 10 a.m., to give Kilpatrick’s situation a chance to develop this morning.

If Kilpatrick pleads guilty and resigns, her hearing would become meaningless and would be canceled.

The announcement of a possible deal today, sent in an e-mail at 4:41 p.m. from the prosecutor’s office with the subject line “Defendant Kilpatrick To Plea Guilty in Text Scandal Case,” sent journalists scurrying from Granholm’s hearing room in Detroit’s New Center area to the courthouse downtown.

By 5 p.m., word began to spread that the deal — which was supposed to be announced at 5:15 p.m. — would not happen.

In another e-mail sent at 5:44 p.m., the prosecutor’s office backed off the plea agreement, saying only that Kilpatrick would be in court this morning for a routine hearing before Groner.

Granholm continued with her proceeding, which featured testimony from key figures in the text message scandal. The governor had to vocally intervene at one point between Kilpatrick general counsel Sharon McPhail and Mike Stefani, the lawyer for three former cops, who obtained incriminating text messages last year between Kilpatrick and his then-chief of staff Christine Beatty.

The Free Press published excerpts of those messages in January, showing Kilpatrick and Beatty lied under oath at the whistle-blower trial brought by Stefani’s clients last fall. The newspaper’s published investigation sparked the scandal, and in March Worthy announced felony charges against Kilpatrick and Beatty. The pair face multiple counts of perjury, misconduct in office, obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

On Tuesday, after courts cleared the way for Granholm to honor the request by the Detroit City Council and hold the removal hearing, Worthy hardened her stance on jail time for Kilpatrick. The mayor had agreed to plead guilty to two of the eight felonies in the perjury case, leaving him with a criminal record that could not be expunged. The prosecutor insisted that he serve at least six months, which was up from earlier reports that she had offered four months.

A number of Detroit pastors have recently urged Worthy to relax her demands on the amount of jail time Kilpatrick would be required to serve, according to a person close to the negotiations.

The mayor also faces two felony assault charges. That case, which remains pending, is being prosecuted by the office of state Attorney General Mike Cox.

Black Dynamite
09-03-2008, 11:56 PM
Dave Bing Jihad begins?

Tahoe
09-03-2008, 11:59 PM
Isaih Thomas would work swimmingly.

Glenn
09-04-2008, 06:51 AM
Isaih Thomas would work swimmingly.


Does Isiah know Michael Phelps or something?

Uncle Mxy
09-04-2008, 08:32 AM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/METRO/809040413/1409
Is he packing it in? He's packing it up...

Even the mayor, who has remained defiant for months, seems resigned to his fate. Kilpatrick has already begun to pack up his possessions for the move out of the mayor's office, according to his longtime informal adviser, Adolph Mongo.
The name "Adolph Mongo" makes me laugh, every time. I can't decide if his middle name is Ming, Hitler, or Caesar.

Glenn
09-04-2008, 08:53 AM
You cannot touch The Mongo.

Tahoe
09-04-2008, 10:31 AM
He doesn't seem to be very sincere, imo.

Glenn
09-04-2008, 10:48 AM
Kilpatrick pleads guilty
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has pleaded guilty to two felony counts of obstruction of justice. As a part of the plea deal, Kilpatrick will announce his immediate resignation.

Tahoe
09-04-2008, 10:53 AM
^ it was on CNN. They even said he didn't seem very concerned.

DrRay11
09-04-2008, 11:01 AM
LOL @ an ad on the bottom of the page

"Kwame the Gangsta Mayor"

Big Swami
09-04-2008, 11:48 AM
On ClickOnDetroit.com: "Breaking News: Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings Announces Retirement"

LOL

Might as well be: "Breaking News: Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings Announces Retirement Because Mayor's Police Detail Killed A Titty Dancer On His Orders"

Uncle Mxy
09-04-2008, 01:04 PM
I believe this was what actually caused the deal to work out. They were able to come up with a simultaneous plea deal with Kym Worthy AND Mike Cox on the two separate sets of charges. Kwame wasn't going to accept one plea with other charges pending... no sane person would've done that.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS01/80904032&imw=Y

Uncle Mxy
09-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Doofuses trying to tie Kwame to Obama:

http://www.woodtv.com/global/story.asp?s=8960653

Tahoe
09-06-2008, 11:24 AM
Like Sexism and Racism, Tieism should be rejected by everyone. I can't believe that still goes on today.

Zekyl
09-08-2008, 11:24 AM
The name "Adolph Mongo" makes me laugh, every time. I can't decide if his middle name is Ming, Hitler, or Caesar.
You shouldn't joke about that. You'll just make him mad.

Uncle Mxy
02-12-2009, 09:04 PM
Compuware Covisint Adds to Healthcare Team

Dear Colleague,

On February 10, Mr. Kwame Kilpatrick accepted an offer to work for Compuware Covisint as an Account Executive. After extensive interviews with our Covisint healthcare team, we mutually agreed that he would come to Covisint to sell our capabilities into the healthcare field.

As you know, Compuware does not take a cookie-cutter approach to hiring. We hire people from a variety of backgrounds who will fit in our culture and contribute to the success of our business. During his interviews, Mr. Kilpatrick displayed the intelligence, understanding and commitment necessary for success.

Mr. Kilpatrick will broaden Covisint’s footprint in the healthcare industry by connecting state and nationally based communities, organizations and systems through our secure, collaborative platform. I encourage you to welcome him to our team and to support his efforts to grow our business by improving the delivery of healthcare in the U.S.

Sincerely,

Peter Karmanos, Jr.
Chairman and CEO
http://www.freep.com/article/20090212/NEWS01/90212078/Karmanos+in+message+to+staff++Kilpatrick+named+acc ount+exec+

Vinny
02-12-2009, 10:03 PM
Lol, is he in a cube?

Uncle Mxy
03-07-2009, 01:47 PM
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090215/SUB01/302159975/1071


Reports Friday on Kilpatrick's salary ranged from $100,000 to as much as $360,000 a year.

Rumors flew before Kilpatrick's release that Compuware might hire him, but Dennis Archer, former Detroit mayor and member of the Compuware board, denied the rumors. He declined to comment to Crain's Thursday, referring a reporter to Lisa Elkin, the company's vice president of communications.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090215/COL01/902150396/


How it looks matters.

But apparently not enough. Karmanos, at the end of the radio interview, closed by saying, tersely, "I'm hiring Kwame Kilpatrick, our organization is, because it's a good business decision."

Uncle Mxy
03-10-2009, 08:01 AM
700 more pages of the wit and wisdom of Kwame Kilpatrick can be found at:

http://www.freep.com/article/20090309/NEWS05/90309025?imw=Y

The most amusing? An article that swipes my thread title:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090310/METRO01/903100376

Ex-mayor juggled women: Suggestive texts sent to at least five
Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News

Beyond his duties as mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick was a very busy player.

Besides his wife, Carlita Kilpatrick, and his chief of staff and eventual co-defendant, Christine Beatty, there are at least five other women mentioned in the texts that date from 2002-2005.

It's unclear whether Kilpatrick actually had sex with any of the other women, whose identities could not be verified by The News.

"Can't get you out of my system. Don't want too either," Kilpatrick told Ebony. "Hell yeah, I need some love and affection," he told Alexis. On his way back from Lansing, Kilpatrick told Kebina: "I'm rushing to see you Baby!"

Natashia told Kilpatrick in an explicit message about yet another woman who wanted to have sex with him. He told Natashia that he missed her on Belle Isle and of his desire for a particular sex act. In another set of messages, Natashia asked for tickets to a sporting event and told of a woman in Los Angeles who was "still ready."

"I still want to watch," Kilpatrick told her.

"I want you to do more than just watch," Natashia wrote back.

Kilpatrick sometimes juggled sexually charged text conversations with multiple women simultaneously. Apparently, it wasn't easy.

"I had a bad dream last night ... that you had a girlfriend," Carlita Kilpatrick messaged her husband on Feb. 24, 2003. "So of course I woke up pissed."

Kilpatrick responded, apparently believing the message was from Beatty, including his illicit lover's initials, CLRB: "LOL. I have one Girlfriend. CLRB... My G. My Wind. My Ace. My Best Ever and lastly My Soulmate."

Four hours later, Kilpatrick apparently realized his mistake and simply forwarded the same message to Beatty.

There was no response from Carlita Kilpatrick to this message included in the texts released on Monday.

Beatty explains to her boss in another exchange how their affair predated Kilpatrick's marriage to Carlita. She wondered in July of 2002 why they never tried to get together after college.

"I thought about it when I first came home from school and saw you a few times, right around the time we first had sex, and shortly after that you were engaged," Beatty wrote. "After that, I thought we would never have opportunity to be together and didn't seriously think about it."

Beatty's lawyer, Mayer Morganroth, said Monday that his client expected to be embarrassed again by the further release of messages. But sometimes Beatty appeared to enjoy the stealth role she played in their affair. Running into Carlita at the gym on June 19, 2003, she informed Kilpatrick about how successfully he was fooling his wife -- and she turned his mock devotion into another romantic moment for herself.

"You are such a special husband! I just arrived at the gym and your wife was leaving and telling us that she wasn't working out because her husband called and wanted her to come and have dinner with him and the boys! You are so wonderful! Can I get a husband like you one day?"

Kilpatrick responded, "No question."

Beatty sent back, "LOL. No question what? You gonna hook me up with a good husband or you are the one?"

Kilpatrick assured Beatty, "I wouldn't even try to find you someone as good for you as me. It would be an exercise in futility! Short answer: I'm the one 4 u."

They shared with each other that they had stopped having sexual relations with their spouses. By November of 2003, Beatty told Kilpatrick that she and her husband, Lou, would divorce.

Despite his claims of sexual fidelity to his mistress, Kilpatrick kept up at least friendly text banter with his wife. On his way home one evening he messaged Carlita, "Hey cutie petutie!"

"Hey Mr. Handsome," she answered. "You look awfully good tonight! I'm glad I married you."

"Really," Kilpatrick answered. "I'm glad you married me, too. See you in a minute."

She told him his message put "a big cheese grin on my face," and Kilpatrick responded, "Keep it going. You are real cute when you have a big cheese grin."

"Okay, now I want to have sex," Carlita Kilpatrick wrote. "You down?"

"Yepper," Kilpatrick told his wife.

Glenn
03-10-2009, 08:38 AM
That's great.

Wilfredo Ledezma
03-10-2009, 01:11 PM
I heard today on the radio that they're trying to demonize Mike Cox for the way he went after Kwame since Cox is an elected Republican.

Probably just trying to hinder his Governor chances.

Nobody's going to feel sorry for Kwame.

Uncle Mxy
03-10-2009, 01:30 PM
Is this in the current tense? In the just-released text messages, there was some grumbling about Cox, but those messages were written years back. I thought Kwame's biggest current actions here were suing Skytel.

Fool
03-10-2009, 01:30 PM
What radio and who is trying to cast anyone as the bad guy versus Kwame?

geerussell
07-25-2009, 04:27 PM
The mayor really is a playa. I'm going to go ahead and skip to the subtext of the story--Kwame tapped that ass and got her paid.

Police monitor had 'personal' meetings with Kilpatrick (http://www.detnews.com/article/20090725/METRO01/907250367/Police-monitor-had--personal--meetings-with-Kilpatrick)

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=C3&Dato=20090725&Kategori=METRO01&Lopenr=907250367&Ref=AR&Q=65&MaxW=320&MaxH=320&border=0


Detroit -- The woman charged with monitoring the Detroit Police Department's adherence to a 2003 agreement with the U.S. Department of Justice has submitted her resignation because of her interactions with former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

Sheryl L. Robinson Wood submitted her resignation to U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr. Thursday evening.

Detroit's Police Department has been under federal supervision for six years after a Justice Department investigation found instances of civil rights violations via police brutality, locking up homicide witnesses and keeping unsafe holding cells where prisoners died. An agreement struck between the city and federal investigators called for sweeping changes in the department, and Wood was put in place to ensure they took effect.



William Goodman, an attorney who has sued the city over police misconduct, said he was shocked.

"I have had, personally, some questions on why it was taking so long for the monitor to achieve compliance," said Goodman, who attended the last hearing called by Cook. "I am absolutely stunned.

"It's really very sad. What should have been a very enabling process ... has become a scandal and disgrace."

The city has paid Wood's firm more than $10 million in monitoring fees over the past six years.

Goodman said the city should demand the money be returned by Wood and the private company she works for, Kroll Associates, calling Wood's behavior "unethical and outrageous."

Uncle Mxy
08-21-2011, 07:38 AM
http://detnews.com/article/20110820/METRO/108200355/Kilpatrick--I-could-be-mayor-of-Detroit-again#ixzz1VdKDQYar


Less than three weeks after his release from prison, former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said he could win Detroiters' votes to become mayor again.

"I think if I go there and I run now, I win," Kilpatrick told the New York Times in a question-and-answer piece published on its website Friday. "I'm serious. I don't say that in arrogance or anything."

Looks like we have the second coming of Marion Barry...

Glenn
09-07-2011, 11:58 AM
The Mayor is a player, but your game is OVAH!

Uncle Mxy
10-03-2011, 05:32 PM
Player 4ever! Your game is way on, baby! HA HA!
pTDpH6vRXFk

Fool
10-04-2011, 05:15 PM
Ever hear Hugh Downs (Sp?) laugh? It's jarring.

Uncle Mxy
09-06-2012, 03:39 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20120906/NEWS01/309060103/Kwame-Kilpatrick-trial-Stealth-jurors-a-possibility-experts-warn?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Kilpatrick has argued he can't get a fair trial in Detroit, saying the region is too emotionally charged and biased against him.

"I'd be better off if you just take me down and hang me from that fist downtown," he said at a news conference last month.
Let's make this happen!

Uncle Mxy
07-09-2013, 11:54 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20130708/NEWS06/307080104/Free-Press-sues-U-S-Department-Justice-refusing-release-mug-shots


The lawsuit involves the booking photos of three high-profile criminal defendants: former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick; his father, Bernard Kilpatrick, and his longtime contracting friend Bobby Ferguson. The Free Press filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the defendants’ mug shots with the U.S. Marshal’s Office on Feb. 12, while all three men were standing trial on numerous public corruption charges.

Two days later, the Justice Department denied the Free Press request, stating in a letter that the release of the mug shots “could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.”

Uncle Mxy
10-11-2013, 09:36 AM
PLAYER NO MORE!?!?!

http://www.freep.com/article/20131010/NEWS0102/310100095/-Corruption-no-more-Judge-sends-a-message-with-28-year-sentence-for-Kilpatrick

Or will he take over prison?

Uncle Mxy
01-26-2016, 07:33 AM
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/kilpatrick-trial/2016/01/25/kwame-kilpatrick-detroit-mayor-flint-water-crisis/79315104/


I am here in prison, with a 28-year sentence, for a case where there is NO EMBEZZLEMENT, NO MISUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, NO BRIBERY, NO STEALING OF ANY MONEY, as a matter of fact, NO PUBLIC MONEY AT ALL. And NO CHARGES THEREOF! 99% of Detroiters have NO idea why I'm here. They don't know the charges, nor what I'm sentenced for. They sure do know the rumors.

Vinny
08-05-2017, 10:58 PM
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/08/02/half-detroit-mayoral-candidates-felony-convictions/104244406/


According to transcripts, Pitts was involved in a shootout with the owner of a collision shop and auto clinic on Greenfield in Detroit in a dispute over a repair bill.
In court testimony, the shop owner said he fired about six shots at Pitts during the altercation and she fired at least two at him. She then rammed his vehicle before speeding away from the scene. The shop owner was not struck and called police.

Uncle Mxy
08-07-2017, 05:21 AM
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2017/08/03/kwame-kilpatrick-mayor-detroit-judge/536104001/


But that amount eventually was cut significantly. Last year, under a court order, the prosecution recommended cutting Kilpatrick's debt by more than half — from $4.5 million to $1.6 million after an appeals court ruled that Kilpatrick’s restitution calculation “was erroneous” and should have been based more on the city’s losses, “rather than on Kilpatrick’s gain.”

Now, prosecutors are recommending trimming another $116,400 off of Kilpatrick's restitution tab -- a figure that represents what the government would have paid another contractor for a sewer job had the bidding process not been manipulated

Uncle Mxy
01-29-2020, 05:08 PM
Will Trump pardon Kwame to get the Michigan vote?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/01/28/kwame-kilpatrick-trump-sherry-gay-dagnogo/4597245002/


Gay-Dagnono, meanwhile, believes Kilpatrick has paid his dues — he's been locked up for seven years now. And like Karmanos, she believes Trump is seriously considering letting him out, if the headline in her email to the Free Press is any indication: "Commutation for former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick Under White House Consideration!" read the banner across the top of her letterhead.

Uncle Mxy
05-23-2020, 11:17 AM
KWAME FREED?!!!??

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/state-rep-karen-whitsett-said-pres-trump-told-her-kwame-kilpatrick-would-soon-be-released


State representative Karen Whitsett from metro Detroit tells FOX 2's Charlie Langton that she spoke with President Trump Thursday night and that he said Kwame Kilpatrick would be one of 3,000 prisoners soon released.

Uncle Mxy
01-20-2021, 03:31 AM
It Happened! Kwame freed!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-pardoned-donald-trump-detroit-mayor/4217253001/

Glenn
01-20-2021, 05:34 AM
“Drain the swamp” lol

Uncle Mxy
06-09-2021, 07:49 AM
Kilpatrick is living in the Atlanta area, changing careers to the ministry, and engaged to be married to a Detroit woman. He says he's done with politics.
https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/28149/ex-detroit_mayor_kwame_kilpatrick_shares_plans_to_rem arry_join_ministry_in_first_interview_since_releas e

Fool
06-22-2021, 09:27 PM
"He didn't come up here by just comin'. Yall sent him up in here."

Glenn
06-30-2021, 06:32 AM
2.0

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/06/29/detroit-mayor-mike-duggan-gets-engaged-doctor/7806144002/?utm_source=detroitnews-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_thumb&utm_content=1008DN-E-NLETTER65

Uncle Mxy
08-14-2024, 07:34 AM
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/08/13/kwame-kipatrick-to-speak-at-oakland-county-republican-dinner/74785410007/


Kilpatrick found "his faith and relationship with God while incarcerated," Patrick said Tuesday.

"His speech will focus on his repentance and redemption, a message all would be well served to hear"

Uncle Mxy
08-29-2024, 01:29 PM
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/08/13/kwame-kipatrick-to-speak-at-oakland-county-republican-dinner/74785410007/

https://www.candgnews.com/news/kwame-kilpatrick-speaks-at-oakland-county-republican-party-lincoln-day-dinner-6403