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Flip Saunders Named NBA Eastern Conference Coach of the Month

NEW YORK, Jan. 2, 2008 – The Detroit Pistons’ Flip Saunders and the Portland Trail Blazers’ Nate McMillan today were named the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month, respectively, for games played in December.

Saunders guided the Pistons to a 15-2 (.882) record last month as Detroit established a franchise mark for wins in December. Holding eight of their last 10 December opponents to 90 points or less, the Pistons are in the midst of a nine-game winning streak. At 24-7, Detroit enjoys a 9.5-game lead in the Central Division. The Pistons handed the Celtics their first home loss of the season on Dec. 19 when Detroit posted an 87-85 victory in Boston.

McMillan led the Trail Blazers to a 13-2 (.867) record in December, which included 13 straight wins from Dec. 3 through Dec. 30. The 13-game winning streak is the second-longest in Trail Blazers history and tops in the NBA this season. At 18-13, Portland is second in the Northwest Division, trailing Denver by one-half game. The Trail Blazers defeated the Nuggets at the Pepsi Center on Dec. 16, their first win in Denver since Feb. 26, 2003.

Other nominees for the Coach of the Month were Atlanta’s Mike Woodson, Boston’s Doc Rivers, Dallas’ Avery Johnson, Golden State’s Don Nelson, New Orleans’ Byron Scott and Philadelphia’s Maurice Cheeks.

Get a haircut you fucking piece of shit MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Wow, ummmm....................Karl............just..... ....ummmmm wow.

I thought Skiles had this award in the bag!

Flip Saunders always goes 15-2 with this team during the regular season. He owns the atlantas, milwaukees, memphises, new jerseys and golden states of the world. It's getting 15 victories during the second season that really matters.

Flip Saunders is a fucking clown. Can't wait to see him with the quick trigger finger on his bench on saturday when they play a real team again.

Thank god for boston having Doc Rivers calling the shots. It's a case of dumb and dumber.

Thank god for boston having Doc Rivers calling the shots. It's a case of dumb and dumber.
Ha ha ha, I think you're right about that. The only thing saving Detroit from being destroyed is that all the better coaches have terrible players.

EDIT: Isn't it impressive how ready the NBA is ready to bow down and suck a dick just because someone got a few wins this month? They got so excited they actually named Flip Saunders Coach Of The Month. And look at how many MVP votes KG is getting when he's been having a so-so year. The NBA and its fans have no sense of perspective whatsoever.

Flip Saunders is a fucking clown. Can't wait to see him with the quick trigger finger on his bench on saturday when they play a real team again.
You're itching for him to fall off? I hate Flip to death. But I can't say i'm rooting for him to revert. Either way we couldnt blow out all the teams you named before. Now its a bad thing that we do?

Either way nobody is naive enough to see the bench play past maxiell hayes stuckey (some nights brezec) and affalo on nights against a high powered team that keeps it close. Dont know what you are annoyed about honestly. Beating the shit out of the teams you're supposed to beat isnt a crime. getting rest most nights isnt either. I'll be the first to call out Flip's fuck ups, but i also gotta give him temporary props along with the starters for atleast beating teams they are supposed the way they should for once.

It has been a while since I've yelled at Flip through the TV set. Maybe its because I haven't seen as many games as I'd like lately, but maybe he's actually coaching well right now. If it's the latter, I hope like hell he keeps it up.

It's an unfamiliar feeling... having absolutely nothing to complain about at the moment.

It's an unfamiliar feeling... having absolutely nothing to complain about at the moment.
I think thats the collective feeling for the most part. We've all been fooled before so no one sees a title for this team until it atleast gets to the finals.

You're itching for him to fall off? I hate Flip to death. But I can't say i'm rooting for him to revert. Either way we couldnt blow out all the teams you named before. Now its a bad thing that we do?

Either way nobody is naive enough to see the bench play past maxiell hayes stuckey (some nights brezec) and affalo on nights against a high powered team that keeps it close. Dont know what you are annoyed about honestly. Beating the shit out of the teams you're supposed to beat isnt a crime. getting rest most nights isnt either. I'll be the first to call out Flip's fuck ups, but i also gotta give him temporary props along with the starters for atleast beating teams they are supposed the way they should for once.

Try re-reading my statement but this time interpreting my "can't wait" as being sarcastic. It would have saved you most of your post. I never root against this club.

Trust me, I hope I'm wrong about Flip or that this team is too good for him to screw up. I want Flip to succeed because it means this team succeeds. I just don't believe I'm wrong nor do I believe this team is too good for him to screw up (like boston).

I believe he'll forget about his bench and play all 5 starters too long when the games become important when bench production was the real reason this team started blowing teams out.

The problem with this team losing basketball games in the playoffs wasn't because the starters were playing too many minutes during the regular season it's BECAUSE they were playing too many minutes during the games itself. These starters aren't talented enough to win it on their own. They NEED bench production and a coach to believe in this.

Some of that may have been talent-related, maybe the bench wasn't talented enough which then became Joe Dumars' responsibility to fix. Now, the bench just may be good enough...I don't want Flip to forget this and burn his starters 40+. If Antonio Mcdyess plays 39 minutes against boston like he did the first time out that's not a good sign.

Anyway, I also think Boston is the better team and will prove so on Saturday and I hate the celtics. Boston and Chicago will always be the enemy to me.

nothing could be more meaningless than "nba coach of the month". its also probably the most prestigous award flip will ever get for coachings. think about it.

No Coach of the Year?!?

I think thats the collective feeling for the most part. We've all been fooled before so no one sees a title for this team until it atleast gets to the finals.

I just take a nice stretch of games for what it is and enjoy it. Dwelling on playoff exits past or worse yet hand-wringing over ones that haven't even happened yet... just sucks all the fun out of it.

Tru dat.

Some of that may have been talent-related, maybe the bench wasn't talented enough which then became Joe Dumars' responsibility to fix. Now, the bench just may be good enough...I don't want Flip to forget this and burn his starters 40+. If Antonio Mcdyess plays 39 minutes against boston like he did the first time out that's not a good sign.
Actually its proven to be talent related. Maurice Evans, Carlos Delfino, and Dale Davis were not "starters on any other team" players and their roles didnt match our style now. I think Dumars has really made sharp low key moves.

But the indiana game was close all the way through and he still depended on the Zoo Crew. I think as long as they dont cost us leads, he'll hold firm. I think he's gotten over the "one mistake and done" thing he had before. Also I think he doesnt hate his guys like he did Delfino and Dale davis for their offensive weaknesses.

I hate to jinx it, but I think 8 nights out of 10 the bench gets heavy burn important minutes. 6-8 out of 10 in the playoffs. Thats way more than anything the past two years. And more than what we got in LB's second year. Its the coaching that'll be the issue. Can't say yet, but I dont look for or towards us reverting. Because that means the bench wasnt scoring like they have been all year. And thats a big part of their increased time.

Actually its proven to be talent related. Maurice Evans, Carlos Delfino, and Dale Davis were not "starters on any other team" players and their roles didnt match our style now. I think Dumars has really made sharp low key moves.


I never understood what the deal was with Dale Davis. He had a really nice season pulling heavy duty with the Pacers the year before he came to detroit. It always seemed like they just threw him in a corner and forgot about him for no good reason.

Anyway, I also think Boston is the better team and will prove so on Saturday and I hate the celtics. Boston and Chicago will always be the enemy to me.

Boston almost lost to a tmac-less rockets team...

Boston Has no bench. So are you endorsing their big 3 as that amazing?

I never understood what the deal was with Dale Davis. He had a really nice season pulling heavy duty with the Pacers the year before he came to detroit. It always seemed like they just threw him in a corner and forgot about him for no good reason.
Co-signed!

LOL

Rooting for the coach to fail, even at the expense of the team. What losers. Shows what class you have. True Piston fans act like spoiled children in the midst of a 10-game win streak.

15-2 in December and he's a clown. Nice. What a huge basketball IQ you have.

I never understood what the deal was with Dale Davis. He had a really nice season pulling heavy duty with the Pacers the year before he came to detroit. It always seemed like they just threw him in a corner and forgot about him for no good reason.


Yeah, it's not like they tried using him during the Cleveland series and he responded by fumbling wide open dump-off passes through his legs, or anything.

Oh wait...

LOL

Rooting for the coach to fail, even at the expense of the team. What losers. Shows what class you have. True Piston fans act like spoiled children in the midst of a 10-game win streak.

15-2 in December and he's a clown. Nice. What a huge basketball IQ you have.

Yes, we're losers because we aren't mindless drone fanboys that can actually think for ourselves rather than relying on regular season winning streaks, team press releases (aka your Uncle Keith's "articles"), etc.

Sorry that this site isn't a "safe haven" from critical thinking.

We've all seen this team dominate in the regular season before, and other that one unbelievable season, the end result was very bitter. So forgive us if we don't just accept that the championship is a foregone conclusion.

I can't wait to see where this goes (Terrordome?)

Its unsurprising that Kstat receives the same general response from every message board I see him at.

Eagerly awaiting his response to Glenn's challenge to an "Auburn Hills Street Fight".

http://hoboken411.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/drunk-fight.jpg

Here's what Glenn would pull up in to the fight:

http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/ucgraphics/Psycho_04JeepWranglerX0001.JPG


You KNOW what he'll be wearing.

Boston almost lost to a tmac-less rockets team...

Teams tend to struggle in their first game back from a west coast swing (most lose), a west coast swing that included 4 wins (including victories over the jazz and lakers) and 0 losses . The Celts were up 20 early and the rockets made a game out of it. Bonzi played well. Still think Bonzi would have been a piston if Ben re-signed.

Teams tend to struggle in their first game back from a west coast swing (most lose), a west coast swing that included 4 wins (including victories over the jazz and lakers) and 0 losses . The Celts were up 20 early and the rockets made a game out of it. Bonzi played well. Still think Bonzi would have been a piston if Ben re-signed.
Thats alot of excuses for Boston and nothing close to such leeway for Detroit if they lose to Boston of the second night of a back to back coming from canada.

Thats alot of excuses for Boston and nothing close to such leeway for Detroit if they lose to Boston of the second night of a back to back coming from canada.

No excuses, just cold-hard fact. Teams struggle first game back from an extended (4+ games) road trip.

And I don't see your logic in your following statement, apples and oranges (especially since the pistons excel in "second nights of a back to back" not to mention the celtics will also be on a "second night of a back to back" on saturday).

No excuses, just cold-hard fact. Teams struggle first game back from an extended (4+ games) road trip.
And Teams struggle on the second night of back to back. So its ok to be general "other teams record applies to them" for the Celtics and not for the Pistons? Yet the Celts are better than us? They can be coming off the second night of a back to back too. Still doesnt change my point that you dont acknowledge back to back scheduling losses for the pistons because we as an elite team are supposed to step up in those game. But the team with 3 losses that you think is better than us with no bench is allowed such leeway?

Um, the Celts won. Style points can fuck off.

Furious Style points are always observed however.

And Teams struggle on the second night of back to back. So its ok to be general "other teams record applies to them" for the Celtics and not for the Pistons? Yet the Celts are better than us? They can be coming off the second night of a back to back too. Still doesnt change my point that you dont acknowledge back to back scheduling losses for the pistons because we as an elite team are supposed to step up in those game. But the team with 3 losses that you think is better than us with no bench is allowed such leeway?

um, I have no idea where you're coming from on this. I merely mentioned that teams normally struggle returning home from extended road trips in response to another post that inferred the celtics may not be that good because they only beat the me-mac-less rockets by 2 at home (actually the rockets may be better without me-mac similar to the wizards being better without Gilbert Arenas, but that's a different debate). A win is a freaking win. How you generated the "second nights of back-2-back" rationality from that statement is beyond my comprehension.

And yes, I still think the Celtics are a better team than the pistons. I'm sure I'm not alone in that assessment. Their bench is not as bad as people think (getting James Posey was a steal and house supplies scoring) not to mention their 3 best players are better than anyone on the pistons. If the celtics remain healthy I think they win the title with ease which sucks ass because I despise that franchise.

NBA forum has been full of snarky snarks as of late.

I actually do think that Flip has done a pretty decent coaching job this year, for the most part.

And I actually do fear him shortening the bench to 7 players when the games get more important.

That's why we have to hope that Max, Hayes and Stuckey all play well enough to solidify their spots. I could see them forming the 8 man rotation in the playoffs, with Brezec and Hunter getting spot duty.

I actually do think that Flip has done a pretty decent coaching job this year, for the most part.

And I actually do fear him shortening the bench to 7 players when the games get more important.

Hopefully not... but if it does happen at least they'll be 7 or 8 fresh players if things keep going the way they are.

Yes, we're losers because we aren't mindless drone fanboys that can actually think for ourselves rather than relying on regular season winning streaks, team press releases (aka your Uncle Keith's "articles"), etc.


There's a difference between critical thinking and stupidity in the name of objectivity.

When you call a coach a clown after a 10th consecutive victory, you're not being "real" or "honest," you're just being a hater that can't get his head out of his ass.

Being negative for the sake of being negative does not make you any less of a mindless drone.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

To be clear, I wasn't the one that called him a clown.

Hypothetical: (I'M NOT REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE PISTONS OR THE RECENT STREAK WITH THIS)
Do you think that it is possible for a team to win 10 games in a row with bad coaching? In other words, can talent alone win 10 games in a row?

Please answer that question.

No, unless you want to say that a coach can do a great job and still lose 10 games in a row.

If you want to say that, you completely minimize the role of coaching in the NBA, which means that Flip deserves none of the blame for the playoff flameouts, as well as none of the credit.

If you want to call out his blunders in last year's ECF, be my guest. But he's done a fabulous job this year of integrating his bench and changing the team focus to defense. He's done a quality job so far this season.

It's no different than calling Chauncey Billups a clown because he had a terrible series 7 months ago. Nevermind he fact he's been very good this season.

To be clear, I wasn't the one that called him a clown.

Hypothetical: (I'M NOT REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE PISTONS OR THE RECENT STREAK WITH THIS)
Do you think that it is possible for a team to win 10 games in a row with bad coaching? In other words, can talent alone win 10 games in a row?

Please answer that question.
Celtics.

To be clear, I wasn't the one that called him a clown.

Hypothetical: (I'M NOT REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE PISTONS OR THE RECENT STREAK WITH THIS)
Do you think that it is possible for a team to win 10 games in a row with bad coaching? In other words, can talent alone win 10 games in a row?

Please answer that question.

Yes, it's possible. Mostly, I think, where you have a superstar on a dominant streak throwing up gaudy numbers and taking over games.