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Tahoe
12-30-2007, 04:35 PM
This guy can get to the hoop effortlessly. I bet in a one-on-one with the Pistons, he'd beat everyone...maybe Tay would give him a game. Does that mean much, not really, but he can get by defenders with his quickness, or pull up and shoot from the outside. I bet he flies by CBill in practice...but...We talkin bout practice, practice, practice.

I haven't seen that much of him yet but what I'm worried about is him not being willing to put the time in on the defensive end. That he might become a one dimensional player. I can't think of other players that get that bad rap right now...maybe players like TMac or something.

Stuckey's offensive game is phenominal, imo, but the jury is still out on whether his head will be in the right place...meaning listening to coaches and other players about becoming an overall player.

FP22
12-30-2007, 05:34 PM
He is a more injury prone Larry Hughes or poor man's Flip Murray.

Black Dynamite
12-30-2007, 06:40 PM
That was pretty low FP22. People were pretty patient with Delfino. Now we got a guy whose learning fairly quickly on the job, and its hate on him to no end.

Higherwarrior
12-30-2007, 10:31 PM
he doesn't need to play defense; it's illegal to play defense in the nba nowadays. ;o)

seriously though, i don't know how people can be beating on the kid for missing time with a broken hand. in 3 places. it was a freak injury and he's a very strong kid who can't be blamed for being 'injury prone'. that's ridiculous and only serves to 'jinx' him if anything.

stuckey will be just fine. how far he goes is up to him, although his work ethic is said to be great and the vets love his attitude. add to that his physical skills and he's on his way to being a hell of a player. i think we hit gold with him but he has a TON to prove and a lot to develop.

FP22
12-30-2007, 10:41 PM
That was pretty low FP22. People were pretty patient with Delfino. Now we got a guy whose learning fairly quickly on the job, and its hate on him to no end.

Err... I was making a funny. You know, calling him an "injury prone version" of the most injury prone scrub on the planet. Or a "poor man's" version of the teams' most hated player.

I guess I needed to go even more over the top.

Zekyl
12-30-2007, 11:34 PM
Green text sir. I get called out on that a lot.

FP22
12-30-2007, 11:53 PM
Green text sir. I get called out on that a lot.

yea, that probably would have been the safe way, but it kind of ruins it when the green text is saying "THIS IS A JOKE!!!!" before you even read the first word.

Oh well, I like to live dangerously.

Jethro34
12-31-2007, 12:01 AM
Sadly I haven't been able to see many games lately, and I haven't seen him play yet. The reports I've gotten about offense are great. Is the concern about defense and getting his head right based on observations of him shaking off coaches or being defensively lazy, or is it premature fear?

Tahoe
12-31-2007, 12:17 AM
You had me going too FP.

Timone
12-31-2007, 01:04 AM
FP22, nice try but you didn't fool ME.




ok, you did...nice!

Tahoe
12-31-2007, 01:21 AM
^forgot the green text

Glenn
01-02-2008, 08:33 AM
Local TV sports guy referred to him as "Ronald Stuckey" whilst showing highlights of the Bucks game.

Matt
01-03-2008, 12:09 AM
Local TV sports guy referred to him as "Ronald Stuckey" whilst showing highlights of the Bucks game.

on WDFN, while the hosts were taking vacations, a fill-in guy called him Ronald Stuckey too.

Freudian slip? Dark foreshadowing? Or just a dumbass host?[smilie=shrug smile:

Glenn
01-03-2008, 10:32 AM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rodney-Stuckey-1015/


Filling in the blanks: Rodney Stuckey

June 13, 2007

In a copycat league such as the NBA, scouts and executives are always looking for the next great talent that happens to remind them of some other team’s biggest star. In this case, we’ve seen a few quotes this year already comparing Rodney Stuckey to the Miami Heat’s Dwyane Wade. But is that really a fair comparison?

Physically, there are certainly some similarities. Standing a hair under 6-4 without shoes, with a great frame, a 6-7 wingspan, and solid athletic ability, Stuckey passes the eye test and then some. He is strong and quick, with a powerful first step, and has great body control putting the ball on the floor and making his way to the rack.

In terms of his style of play, Stuckey reminds of Wade to a certain extent as well, although he is obviously nowhere near as naturally talented. He has very nice ball-handling skills with either hand, being the main facilitator of his team’s offense, and likes to push the ball up the floor in transition. His footwork is outstanding, and he’s able to draw plenty of fouls through the work he does from the triple-threat position, either getting his man to bite on a pump-fake or going to the basket after utilizing a big time crossover and stopping on a dime from mid-range. Stuckey can also go into the post a bit to punish smaller, weaker matchups, showing really nice toughness in the process. His bread and butter, though, by far, lies in his mid-range game.

Stuckey doesn’t have great shooting mechanics (he has a slight hitch in his jump-shot, which leads to an inconsistent release point), but he does have great scoring instincts and a quick release, which often allow him to just throw the ball in the hoop. He has a full array of jabs, changes of speeds and hesitation moves he uses to keep his man off balance, and he’s absolutely terrific at stopping abruptly and using his strength to create excellent separation from his defender. Once he gets to the basket, or tempts his man into biting for a pump-fake, he’s excellent at finishing with contact thanks to his developed body. Stuckey is a quick player with really nice body control, but he’s not on the same level (or even close) as a Dwyane Wade for example in terms of his explosiveness or creativity finishing around the basket.

While he’s no Steve Nash, Stuckey is not as bad a shooter as his percentages might indicate (27% 3P as a sophomore, 37% as a freshman)—it’s his shot-selection that really hurt him more than anything. The fact that he was forced to dominate the ball so much playing alongside considerably less talented teammates than him (and that’s probably being generous) also contributed to those numbers. The 85% he shot from the free throw line tells the story pretty well here in terms of his touch from mid-range. That becomes even more impressive when you consider that he got to the line nearly 9 times per game this past season. Make no mistake, though, Stuckey has a ways to go and plenty of hard work in front of him before he can legitimately expect to expand his range to the NBA 3-point line. In fact, the success he finds in the NBA will likely ultimately depend heavily on that.

Stuckey is more than just a pure scorer, though, he’s also pretty good at creating for others too. His court vision is very solid, particularly threading the needle to cutters from the perimeter, driving and dishing in traffic, or finding open teammates in transition. Despite the 17+ shots he took per game, he doesn’t come off as a selfish player when watching him on tape, even when Eastern Washington played against much more talented opponents like Washington or Gonzaga and he was forced to shoulder a considerable amount of the scoring load. He did average 5.5 assists per game on the season after all.

That doesn’t mean that Stuckey is necessarily ready to be a point guard either, though. For one, his decision making skills can be really poor at times, forcing up ill-advised shots early in the shot-clock, lowering his shoulder and driving into a brick wall, or trying to make high degree of difficulty passes in half-court sets, leading to unnecessary turnovers. As you can probably surmise by the fact that he wasn’t even able to lead his team to their conference tournament in the very weak Big Sky (the team went just 15-14 on the season), he still lacks a considerable amount of polish and experience.

If there was ever a time for a player like Stuckey to be in demand, though, its now. Combo guards in his mold (Randy Foye, Flip Murray, Bobby Jackson) are making a great living on almost every team around the league—and he fits that mold almost to a T. NBA coaches love having a player they can throw in the game off the bench when things get stagnant offensively, and being able to guard two positions is certainly a plus.

Defensively, Stuckey is tough and pretty strong, able to get into the passing lanes and not being afraid to stick his nose in at times and take a charge. He mainly relies on his physical tools and activity level, though, not being the most aware guy in the world as far as defensive rotations or always staying in front of his man goes. He does have good potential here, though, if he’s willing to put in the time and effort. That’s going to be a key factor in whether he develops into a solid rotation player, or even much more than that. He certainly has the potential to do so, but it’s not going to come right away.

DrRay11
01-03-2008, 10:44 AM
Make the comparison all you want, Flip Murray could be a very good player if he wasn't selfish with the IQ of a stone.

Timone
01-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Glenn, just give it up man.

Glenn
01-03-2008, 11:26 AM
lol

Zekyl
01-03-2008, 12:34 PM
I read that whole thing, until I saw Flip Murray in red and realized Glenn posted it.

Timone
01-03-2008, 12:35 PM
Glenn: past his prime?

He IS on the other side of 30.

Glenn
01-03-2008, 12:37 PM
I read that whole thing, until I saw Flip Murray in red and realized Glenn posted it.

In case you didn't notice, I didn't doctor the story, check the link.

I'm satisfied that someone else noticed the similarities in their games.

WTFchris
01-03-2008, 12:47 PM
In case you didn't notice, I didn't doctor the story, check the link.

I'm satisfied that someone else noticed the similarities in their games.

The problem with Flip is the 10 cent head. If Darko didn't have a 10 cent head (and a 5 cent heart), he'd probably be worth a damn too. Stuckey may have a similar skill set, hopefully he's a lot more basketball savvy though.

Glenn
01-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Ronald Stuckey (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ronald+stuckey%22+pistons&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLF_enUS213&pwst=1&start=0&sa=N)

Fool
01-03-2008, 12:54 PM
That's rough. Pistons Forum is quality. Who is it over there that shows up here once in a while. With the Dumars on two cell phones avatar.

Zekyl
01-03-2008, 05:22 PM
In case you didn't notice, I didn't doctor the story, check the link.

I'm satisfied that someone else noticed the similarities in their games.
No worries, I trust your posts. I just started laughing and moved on to people's comments.

Zekyl
01-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Fool, isn't that Joe Asburry?

Fool
01-03-2008, 06:28 PM
There you go.

WTFchris
01-10-2008, 11:33 PM
David Thorpe's Analysis
January 02, 2008

Rodney Stuckey reminds me of a young Tim Hardaway in that he's terrific with his stop-and-start dribble drives. He's a difficult guy to stay in front of. Since he just returned from an injury last week, he's just now learning that beating his defender is a small part of the battle in the NBA. He's getting 48 percent of his shots from near the rim, but shooting just 38.5 percent on those shots, with 23 percent of those shots blocked, according to 82games.com. Compare that to a similar-sized guard in rookie Acie Law, who gets 43 percent of his shots off drives and has had only 5 percent of them blocked.

Tahoe
01-10-2008, 11:35 PM
Rodney Stuckey reminds me of a young Tim Hardaway in that he's terrific with his stop-and-start dribble drives. He's a difficult guy to stay in front of. Since he just returned from an injury last week, he's just now learning that beating his defender is a small part of the battle in the NBA. He's getting 48 percent of his shots from near the rim, but shooting just 38.5 percent on those shots, with 23 percent of those shots blocked, according to 82games.com. Compare that to a similar-sized guard in rookie Acie Law, who gets 43 percent of his shots off drives and has had only 5 percent of them blocked.

Great point

DrRay11
01-11-2008, 08:23 AM
Did anyone catch on the TNT broadcast that they said Stuckey's hand was hurting a bit because he fell on it in Dallas or something? Hope it's not bad... Doubt it is.

Cross
01-11-2008, 08:32 AM
I thought he tweaked his ankle according to the freepress?

Hermy
01-11-2008, 08:35 AM
Both.