View Full Version : The essential Valter Herrmann thread
Glenn 12-20-2007, 03:51 PM Okay, it looks like Valter's rarely even going to dress for the Pistons, so since this is just his second year, can't we send him to Ft. Wayne to get some PT?
Haven't seen this mentioned or suggested anywhere, so maybe there is some sort of reason why he's not eligible?
edit - yes, I'm too lazy to look up the NBDL eligibility rules myself
MOLA1 12-20-2007, 04:05 PM I think it'd be pretty insulting to him.
He had a decent rookie campaign and looked good this year when
given minutes. I hope we start playing him. He's a baller.
mercury 12-20-2007, 04:13 PM Could someone explain one thing that Jarvis Hayes does better than Walter?
May the best man get the backup minutes... including Amir
Glenn 12-20-2007, 04:16 PM He might be insulted, or he might take it as a challenge and use the opportunity to earn a shot.
Let's keep in mind that he was angry about his 10 mpg role with the Bobcats and more importantly, he's good friends with Carlos Delfino.
Tahoe 12-20-2007, 04:19 PM Glenn, What are the NBDL eligibility rules on that? If you get a chance...
they're afraid Herrmann will get hurt. he's still recovering from a nose injury from last year. i heard arnie kander might fashion a face mask, ala Rip Hamilton. no joke.
http://www.cnn.com/resources/potd/1999/03/31/top.fabio.bird.jpg
Uncle Mxy 12-20-2007, 06:35 PM I hear Facemask Fabio doll sales could be good this year.
Glenn 12-31-2007, 10:58 AM http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20071231&Category=SPORTS0102&ArtNo=712310374&Ref=AR&Profile=1127Q=100&MaxW=290&MaxH=290 http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7121/valteroy3.jpg
More on Valter... http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/SPORTS0102/712310374/1127/SPORTS0102
Timone 12-31-2007, 11:01 AM OH, A SPECTACULAR MOVE...BY GLENN DANZIG
Uncle Mxy 12-31-2007, 12:08 PM More on Valter... http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/SPORTS0102/712310374/1127/SPORTS0102
Herrmann played in his first game since the trade on Dec. 28, getting two points and nine rebounds against the Pacers.
Looks like the writer oopsed Herrmann's stat line. Herrmann got 2 points in 9 minutes. It was Amir who got the 9 rebounds.
Kstat 12-31-2007, 12:17 PM Nothing Hermann can do in the NBDL is going to change his chances for PT this year.
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20071231&Category=SPORTS0102&ArtNo=712310374&Ref=AR&Profile=1127Q=100&MaxW=290&MaxH=290 [IMG]
More on Valter... http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/SPORTS0102/712310374/1127/SPORTS0102
lmao. Sorry, but Primoz cracks me up whenever I look at him. The facemask takes it to another level.
Glenn 12-31-2007, 03:08 PM I guess that reverse scoop shot that Valter made the other night wasn't such a big deal.
Looks like he's done it before, all while giving Carlos Boozer the "Benny Hill slap on the head" at the same time.
http://www.nbakolik.com/haber/images/walter_hermann.jpg
Glenn 12-31-2007, 03:13 PM Valter also appears to have some sort of fetish with basketball rims.
http://www.nbatr.com/images/WalterHermann.jpg
http://es.geocities.com/baskonistasreportajes/herrmann_final_copa.jpg
Also, here's a pic of 3 of our favorite people:
http://www.basket-plus.com/takmicenja/japan2006/slike/Ginobili_Herrmann_Delfino.jpg
Kstat 12-31-2007, 06:52 PM Hermann is a player. It's goign to really suck having to chose between him and Jarvis next summer.
Hermann is a player. It's goign to really suck having to chose between him and Jarvis next summer.
It'll suck even worse when they both leave for more playing time/money.
Zekyl 12-31-2007, 08:20 PM I think Herrmann is more likely to come back, honestly, if it comes down to player choice. He seems to like the atmosphere here and Jarvis only signed a one year deal here so he could prove his worth and go get a big contract. I'd like to see us give Herrmann a little more time so we can better evaluate him.
Kstat 12-31-2007, 08:31 PM It'll suck even worse when they both leave for more playing time/money.
Jarvis might want to leave regardless. Hermann sure as hell won't, especially if Jarvis opens up a spot for him. Winning is more important to him at this stage in his career.
Zekyl 12-31-2007, 08:44 PM And I'd love to have him back. Keep the guys that want to stay long term, get rid of the guys looking for a contract, just keep building chemistry. I'd love to see Herrmann and Brezec both come back next year.
Tahoe 12-31-2007, 10:02 PM Do you think the Palace will start playing that Hanson song...Doo Wop, diddy diddy, Woo op...when he comes in?
Zekyl 01-01-2008, 12:50 AM I'd love it if the did. I would laugh my ass off.
Black Dynamite 01-01-2008, 11:40 AM Great story about Walter. I wish this chick wrote more articles at the news.
Herrmann finds happiness with Pistons
Argentinian forward, who has been pummeled by tragedy, works hard to fit in with contender.
Joanne C. Gerstner / The Detroit News
AUBURN HILLS -- New Pistons forward Walter Herrmann wants to make a few things perfectly clear:
He's a very patient man.
He's happy to be on the Pistons roster.
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And that life, through some tragic lessons, has taught him to take nothing for granted.
Herrmann, 28, came to the Pistons on Dec. 14 in an unexpected trade. The Pistons sent center Nazr Mohammed to the Charlotte Bobcats, in exchange for Herrmann and Primoz Brezec.
He was languishing in the Bobcats' new system, so getting sent to the Pistons seemed like an early Christmas present.
"I was happy, yes, surprised, yes, but not surprised, if that makes sense," said Herrmann, in his heavily Argentinean-accented English. "I am very thankful to Charlotte for putting me on the team. I learned a lot there. But I did not fit there anymore. So I was happy to know I was coming to the Pistons."
Herrmann accepts that he likely will have a limited role with the Pistons, with players such as Tayshaun Prince and Jarvis Hayes ahead of him. Herrmann played in his first game since the trade on Dec. 28, getting two points and nine rebounds against the Pacers.
His two points were memorable, though, coming off a flashy, swooping, reverse layup in traffic. The Pistons bench, filled with the starters, jumped up and whooped in approval.
"I like how he's come in here with a good attitude and is really working hard at practice," Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. "He's got a lot of talent and he's trying to learn what to do to fit in. And that's what you want to see from a new guy."
Emotional crash
The fact that Herrmann is in the NBA, looking quite happy on and off the court, is nothing short of a miracle. It wasn't that long ago that he was ready to quit playing, nearly giving in to unimaginable grief.
In July 2003, Herrmann's mother, younger sister, fiancée and two of his mother's friends were involved in a serious car accident on a two-lane road in Argentina.
Nobody knows exactly how the accident occurred, other than that the car with Herrmann's loved ones collided head-on with another vehicle. All seven people in the accident died.
Soon, the horrible news reached Herrmann. He was elsewhere in Argentina, training with the national team. At first, he was told only his fiancée was dead. Later, he found out his mother and sister were gone, as well.
Herrmann mourned the losses with his father and older sister, trying to make sense of everything. He thought about quitting basketball. But his family encouraged him to keep going, and he headed to Spain to play professionally.
A year later, Herrmann was again on Argentina's national and Olympic team.
In one of the best performances of his life, he had 38 points and 11 rebounds in leading the Argentines to the South American championship. It was July 13, exactly one year to the day of the horrible car accident.
Herrmann, still buzzing from the victory, was dealt another unimaginable blow. His father suffered a fatal heart attack.
"You stay strong, because you have to," Herrmann says now. "You are alive. You are here. And you think a lot about it, yes. You see that anything can happen, at any time, and you cannot stop it. You must live. I am here."
Progress made
Herrmann stayed on the Argentinean team, going on to win the country's first basketball gold medal -- and first medal of any type since 1952 -- in the Athens Olympics. He found love again, too, marrying Alana in July 2006. But Herrmann admits holidays, especially Christmas, are challenging.
"It doesn't feel like Christmas for a lot of things: It is too cold here, my family is not here," he said. (Argentina's seasons are the reverse of Detroit's, meaning it's summer there now, 90 degrees and sunny.)
"But it is all fine with me. I am here to play basketball and I work hard."
Herrmann's English is a work-in-progress, so he tries to explain his thoughts in another way. He frequently apologizes for not being able to communicate fluently, but the truth is, he is doing quite well for only his second year playing in North America and the NBA.
"Charlotte is here," Herrmann said, holding his hand chest-high. "See?" He then moves his hand up, stopping even with his forehead.
"The Pistons are here, much higher, closer to winning the championship," Herrmann said. "That is why I am happy."
You can reach Joanne C. Gerstner at (313) 223-4644 or joanne.gerstner@detnews.com.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/SPORTS0102/712310374/1127/SPORTS0102
Wilfredo Ledezma 01-01-2008, 12:03 PM Man, he's been through hell and back...
DrRay11 01-01-2008, 12:31 PM Well...
On NBA 2k8 I traded Walter and a first for Danny Granger.
Do it Joe!
Timone 01-01-2008, 12:35 PM Go see who you can get for Brezec.
If you can't get Kobe, keep him.
Zekyl 01-01-2008, 05:29 PM Just Kobe? I think you're undervaluing Primoz!
Timone 01-01-2008, 05:30 PM They don't have anyone else on the Lakers that's worth Primoz.
Mr. Oobir 01-01-2008, 06:56 PM Go see who you can get for Brezec.
If you can't get Kobe, keep him.
Shouldn't you ask Keith Langlois about that first?
Timone 01-01-2008, 06:59 PM I would if it was NBA Live!
Uncle Mxy 01-01-2008, 08:16 PM Great story about Walter. I wish this chick wrote more articles at the news.
She was saving herself for Fabio.
Cross 01-05-2008, 08:37 AM http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=285094d461f1529afdf69ed5e2a07ce9-getty-76075147nd020_pistons_wiz&prov=getty
dude has no pit hair and is stealing amir's rebound
Glenn 01-05-2008, 09:52 AM dude has no pit hair
It has all been transplanted onto the back of his head.
Glenn 01-26-2008, 10:13 AM I vant to see Valter get some PT behind Tay.
DrRay11 01-26-2008, 10:14 AM Fuck Walter, he sucks.
Glenn 01-26-2008, 10:15 AM Flip likes him, but only as a PF that shoots three's.
Glenn 01-26-2008, 10:35 AM Fuck Walter, he sucks.
Jarvis hasn't been very good lately at all. Even if Valter just gets some burn to light a fire under Jarvis' ass, then so be it.
DennyMcLain 01-26-2008, 10:36 AM Never trust a man with two first names (like Billy Bob), or a first name for a last name (Carmelo Anthony or Walter Herrmann)
Uncle Mxy 01-26-2008, 10:39 AM Fuck Walter, he sucks.
He appears to be able to front his man without fouling, a skill that Hayes lacks.
Timone 01-26-2008, 10:41 AM Arvis hasn't been very good lately at all. Even if Valter just gets some burn to light a fire under Arvis' ass, then so be it.
Fixed...
Zekyl 01-27-2008, 09:40 AM ^ cogent, as of late.
Timone 01-27-2008, 09:43 AM I like Arvis, but Jesus Christ: did anyone know he was this inconsistent?
Uncle Mxy 01-27-2008, 11:05 AM His inconsistency was part of the reason he was available.
Note that Hayes is getting his career numbers.
My take on Herrmann is that if he's given consistent minutes, he'll produce as Tay's backup, but that's more a gut feeling than anything. Hayes D is bad (but not totally horrible), so when his shot isn't falling, there isn't much else there.
metr0man 01-27-2008, 10:10 PM all he does is shoot jumpers. of course he's gonna be inconsistent.
Glenn 01-28-2008, 05:30 AM all the Pistons do is shoot jumpers. of course they are gonna be inconsistent.
DrRay11 01-28-2008, 08:10 AM Haha. Solid, Glenn.
Glenn 05-26-2008, 09:04 AM Spanish team interested in Valter
http://www.solobasket.com/contenidos/kuqo/confirma/fichaje/pamesa/herrmann/tambien/interesa/c-18009.html
Glenn 08-01-2008, 02:29 PM Pistons sign Walter Herrmann to 1-year deal
By VINCE ELLIS • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • August 1, 2008
The Pistons have agreed to terms on a one-year deal with backup Walter Herrmann.
The 6-foot-9 small forward was an unrestricted free agent and salary information was not disclosed.
The Pistons acquired Herrmann last season from the Charlotte Bobcats as part of the trade that shipped out center Nazr Mohammed.
Herrmann, a 29-year-old Argentine, appeared in only 28 games for the Pistons, but the team likes his size, toughness and three-point ability. He averaged 7.1 minutes and 3.0 points per game for Detroit.
I like this.
WTFchris 08-01-2008, 03:08 PM Me too. He'll get more PT because I don't think Sharpe is ready yet.
Black Dynamite 08-01-2008, 03:54 PM Me too. He'll get more PT because I don't think Sharpe is awake yet.
Higherwarrior 08-01-2008, 06:54 PM a bit surprised he didn't go overseas. but nice signing, for sure.
DrRay11 08-02-2008, 10:32 AM haha V. Nice catch. Sharpe probably isn't ready, but I still hope he sees a little time at SF this year. We'll see how he looks in the preseason.
Holy crap, that's probably coming up soon. What, like 2 months away?
Glenn 08-04-2008, 06:47 AM 82iihDAxDLA
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:sirdouche:
Glenn 08-04-2008, 07:16 AM I wouldn't be surprised if Valter's done some porn work.
Black Dynamite 08-04-2008, 07:16 AM The Fabio Dunk just happened.
Black Dynamite 08-04-2008, 07:19 AM HP6ZPJS9wLo
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Black Dynamite 08-04-2008, 07:20 AM dude can dribble fairly well in the open court.
Joe Asberry 08-04-2008, 07:18 PM http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,595081559,00.html?pg=1
you all know that story about Walter, right? i am glad he's back
Black Dynamite 08-04-2008, 08:16 PM http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,595081559,00.html?pg=1
you all know that story about Walter, right? i am glad he's back
He lost everyone damn near, and has nothing left but basketball in a sense. I said it way back, you have to root for someone who plays through that to find his way.
micknugget 08-04-2008, 09:13 PM WOW! I didn't know that about Valter and now I can root for him that much more. Re-signing him was the only good off season move that Joe has made.
Didn't he get married like a year later? I remember thinking he got over his finance' (who he calls his "girlfriend") pretty quick.
Gotta be terrible to lose so many people all at once.
Glenn 11-21-2008, 12:06 PM Pistons F Herrmann day-to-day after concussion
Posted Nov 21 2008 11:42AM
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) -- Detroit Pistons forward Walter Herrmann was released from a Boston hospital Friday after suffering a mild concussion in a game against the Boston Celtics.
Herrmann, who spent Thursday night at the hospital, is listed as day-to-day. The Celtics won 98-80.
He is averaging 4.5 points and 2 rebounds in 10 games this season.
Glenn 07-18-2009, 10:48 AM Signed a 2yr deal with Tau Ceramica
Tis a sad day
Uncle Mxy 07-19-2009, 12:52 AM How much €?
Big Swami 07-19-2009, 01:04 AM He is seriously one of the least gay Euro players. He gets shit done quietly and without fucking whining all the time. I consider myself a fan and I hope he does well wherever he goes.
Zekyl 07-19-2009, 10:42 AM I consider myself a fan and I hope he does well wherever he goes.
Agreed.
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