I fell asleep before the Georgia-Hawaii Sugar Bowl, because I was tired, didn't give a fuck, and MICHIGAN WON!!!

Hawaii must have felt the same way, Mailman; they didn't show up for the game either.

June Jones must've watched the game and was like, "Well, we won't top the Capital One Bowl, even if we throw it 450 times...so we're just going to take it in the ass."

I haven't sifted through this thread...has bukdow showed up at all?

Nope.

He knew it was "GATORADE TIME, BITCH!"

I think we need to patent that one.^^

Well, I don't see why not. bukdow already has a patent on "Hatorade".

What a game, I'm still in disbelief.

I'm sure someone esle has mentioned that it would have been nice to see this kind of offense before now, too bad it took Lloyd's departure to get this kind of result.

I would have paid good money to see Urban Meyer's face get all contorted and red like it did yesterday, but we got it for FREE!! (his reactions were even better in HD)

I know that it's only one game (an exhibition game at that, like all college bowl games) but that win HAS to help this program. At least for one game, it debunked the "SEC is all about speed and the Big Ten is all about fat slow guys" fallacy. It also demonstrated that you CAN throw the ball at Michigan, especially with a new HC coming in that isn't scared to do so.

How could a potential Michigan recruit have watched that game yesterday and not feel compelled to come to AA?

Question: when was the last time that Michigan came up that big in an "important" game?
I've been trying to think about that and will continue to do so this morning.

All in all, a great way to send Lloyd out to pasture, and a great positive feeling for fans to think about until the season starts up again.

And LOL at all the Sparties that cried themselves to sleep last night thinking about happy Wolverine fans.

It's great to know that, even when we are down, we aren't really "down".

it seems like michigan used to come up big all the time in the big ones, and it was just that one odd game a year that would ruin the season.

also, i'll admit, i lurked on spartantailgate yesterday. those are some sad sacks over there. kind of explains bukdow and tre though.

Anybody see those signs about Les Miles?

Something like "If you can get Rich, why settle for Les"

Actually, I think my line is better than the one they used, but you get the point.

If you think about it, it's been quite awhile since Michigan "upset" a team in football...

Question: when was the last time that Michigan came up that big in an "important" game?


That's a very good question.

Watching this game I thought it'd end up like the '05 Rose Bowl, where they blew that 10 point lead to Texas.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/admincpanel/../../pics/toiletpaper.jpg WTFDetroit’s Morning Constitutional
With Zip Goshboots

January 2, 2008

Yowza!

That was some game to watch. If there’s one thing you can say about Michigan Football, it’s that this program seems to always be involved in riveting games; games you just can’t walk away from (as I did in The Year of Infinite Pain, in 2005. Penn State had just scored to take the lead in Ann Arbor with about a minute to go. My two buddies wanted to leave, so finally I caved when PSU scored. We all know what happened next. It was quite the nervous drive back to Nebraska with the bodies of my two buddies in the trunk). This one was no different. Four Michigan turnovers kept breathing life into the Gators, and kept UM from blowing them out. But again, it’s Michigan Football, and success seems to really scare the Wolverines.

Read this complete Morning Constitutional here. (http://www.wtfdetroit.com/index.php?page=morning1208)

Great game. My only dissapointment is that Carr finally realized how exciting this team could be with those weapons, and now they are all gone. Sure, they'll be more talent, but it seems like our 3 yards and a cloud of dust game plan cost us a lot of games over the last few years. Oh well, we started and ended the Carr era well.

This game could have been a blowout for us if Hart didn't fumble twice. That could have been 2 more TD's for us, and buried them even farther (they may not have made the run they did).

They best part was seeing the Heisman winner on his ass all day.

I got a Mike Hart autograph for X-Mas

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/mike_hart_autograph.jpg

WOW! That looks like a vintage 1969 baseball card!

HEY! That's not Michigan's Mike Hart!

HEY! That's not Michigan's Mike Hart!

If you fumble twice in a bowl game, they turn you white and make you play baseball.
Tough crowd in Ann Arbor.

He grew a 'stache too!

If you fumble twice in a bowl game, they turn you white and make you play baseball.
Tough crowd in Ann Arbor.

Tru dat. Michigan fans have standards.

Oh, the arrogance...

I'm glad no one caught me when I talked about snorting Michigan State football's ashes.

Meeting of past, future in Wolverines' win over Florida

By Eric Adelson
ESPN The Magazine

Updated: January 1, 2008, 8:04 PM ET

ORLANDO, Fla. -- This win was for Lloyd, and for Bo, and for the Big Ten, and even for Tom Brady. This win was for smashmouth, for 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust, for the "laser, rocket arm," and even for big uglies. Michigan is moving on now, to a shiny new future with a smiling new coach. But before he left -- before Lloyd Carr disappeared into the balmy Florida night -- he gave all Michigan fans something to remember.

And something to dearly miss.

Michigan could not stop Tim Tebow on Tuesday. That was expected. Michigan could not stop Percy Harvin, either. That was no surprise.

But what will stay with Michigan fans and college football experts was the way the Wolverines' ostensibly outdated offense bulldozed the Gators like a swamp boat in the Everglades. The damage: a 41-35 Capital One Bowl victory for Michigan.

From the opening drive, Florida's defensive line -- so much faster than Ohio State's plodding blockers in last year's BCS title game -- looked like a band of little brothers. Michigan tackle Jake Long and his henchmen crushed the Gators' rush, protecting Chad Henne and opening holes for scatterback Mike Hart.

On the flanks, Michigan receivers Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington and Greg Matthews had the size to outleap and then outrun Florida's cover corners. Henne looked like Brady and Todd Collins and Brian Griese and Elvis Grbac, all Michigan grads who have succeeded where spread-option quarterbacks have so far failed -- in the NFL. Michigan did not look like a double-digit 'dog. Not at all.

Then the Gators got the ball, and Tebow and Harvin reminded everyone why Urban Meyer is the hot coach with the hot offense, and why his Gators likely will be the preseason No. 1 or 2 entering the fall.

Imagine Michigan fans, watching from snowdrifts back home, pining for the old and craving the new, reminded of their team's sea change by Carr pacing at midfield and new coach Rich Rodriguez watching from the Michigan 15. How could Michigan give up the Henne-Hart-Long way? How could Michigan not copy the Tebow-Harvin show? Arrington looked like Braylon Edwards or even Anthony Carter. But then Tebow looked like Dennis Dixon or even Donovan McNabb. Was this bowl game the end of the beginning? Or the beginning of the end?

The game went back and forth, and Carr skeptics surely waited for the team to run out of gas as it did against Vince Young and Reggie Bush in Rose Bowls past. But that didn't happen. Michigan broke through the Gators' line and pounded Tebow more than once, a painful but clear message from a Big Ten conference that most have completely dismissed in favor of the SEC. Surely even Buckeyes fans grinned a little as Midwest brawn pounded Southeast brains.

And surely Michigan fans thought of former coach Bo Schembechler, much the way Carr himself did in a quiet moment after his final pregame press conference. "He was so resolute," Carr said Sunday. "He was at his very best when things were not going his way."

Things have not gone Carr's way all season. He nearly retired after last year's Rose Bowl drubbing, only to come back and lose to Appalachian State with its mobile quarterback and Oregon with its mobile quarterback -- only to draw Florida and its mobile quarterback. Carr remembered walking up the tunnel from the loss to Oregon and having no real idea what to tell his team. "It was so miserable," he said. "I despise" -- he repeated the word -- "despise losing."

So don't be fooled by his Tennessee drawl or his sleepy-eyed stare -- Carr wanted this game badly. He wanted it for himself, for his players, for his way and for Bo, who died a day before Michigan's dream season collapsed last November in Columbus. Carr exhausted himself in preparation for this game, looking for any way to win the final battle in a war he had, in some ways, already lost. "He wanted to do more and more," said assistant Fred Jackson, who has known Carr since 1977. "He was trying to do everything he possibly could."

This time, despite a defense that still gave up a ton of points, despite mistakes that could have cost the game, "everything he possibly could" was enough. As the sun set, the question of how a traditional Big Ten team can keep up with the SEC and the spread slowly became a question of whether the SEC and the spread are really the answers after all. With the win, Michigan is 6-1 against the SEC in its past seven games. With the loss, Tebow has four glaring defeats as a starter. And count on this: At least a few Ann Arbor people who spent this fall calling for Carr's whistle will spend next fall listening for it.

Asked on the day before his final game about retirement, Carr said: "I just wanted to have an awareness of when it was the right time."

This was the right time: His swarming defense chased a Heisman winner into a final incompletion, leading to a maize and blue mob, and a Gatorade shower, and the sight of a Michigan legend hoisted onto his players' shoulders, while the hot coach with the hot offense watched in silence from across the field.

Carr yelled at his players, telling them to please put him back down on the ground. It was vintage Lloyd -- never above the team. "We definitely wanted to do this for coach Carr," Arrington said. "We wanted to leave his legacy the right way. Coach Carr was like, 'Do this for the team,' and we said, 'No, we're doing this for you.'"

In the locker room afterward, Carr addressed the players. "I told them I loved them," he said, "and most important, I thanked them, because that's what a leader does."

Then the team thanked its coach, singing "Hail to the Victors" -- "the loudest I've ever heard it," Long said. The Wolverines sang for the past, for the present and for an old man with one last war story to tell.

Surely even Buckeyes fans grinned a little as Midwest brawn pounded Southeast brains.

Oh those glorious institutions of higher learning that line the southern coast of our fair nation.

That's fucking hilarious.

I love this: Michigan plays great, wins its first bowl game in five years, caps off yet another 4 loss season, hasn;t beaten OSU in forever-------
And already the naysaying begins about RR or the Spread. Not a HUGE naysaying movement, but just enough to piss me off.
Give me a fucking BREAK!!! Nobody does, or WILL want Carr back. I'm damn sure not going to miss being out of national title hunt by Halloween EVERY FUCKING SEASON (except for two) for the last 13 years.
ANd am I the ONLY one who notices that the last two national champs have been spread teams?

Yes Zip, you are. That's why no one thinks the spread is good. Because they are all missing that small fact.

I've been getting emails from our buddy HipDigIt that say the same thing: Why, oh WHY is Michigan abandoning what has been "so successful" the last 40 years (it's from some puttz on Rivals or some shit he dug up. He'll search for years to find a tidbit of a grain of hope for his Sparties)???

Umm because if Mallett or Threet is starting QB, what you saw against Florida is how Coach Rod is going to basically run his spread.

If I was Mallett and Coach Rod said this is what we are doing, I would drool over it.

I am sick and fucking tired of people looking at what Coach Rod did at WVU and think that automatically he doesnt like QBs who are more throwers than runners. Pat White has no arm and thus WVU ran a mostly run style spread. Shaun King was a statue and led the country in efficiency at Tulsa. His Glennville State QB threw a ton out of the spread.

You change the spread to fit your talent. What we saw yesterday was not the offense that Michigan has run the last 40 years. That was a pass first and run 2nd. If anyone thinks the offense we have run yesterday is the one we have run for 40 years, is a fucking imbecile and should become a ND fan.

Now if Antonia Bass comes back as is being reported things are looking really good for him. I am going to give Bass his own thread maybe. He is running now and if he is cutting by spring practice he will work out with the team.

King, Tulane

but I know what you meant

Umm because if Mallett or Threet is starting QB, what you saw against Florida is how Coach Rod is going to basically run his spread.

If I was Mallett and Coach Rod said this is what we are doing, I would drool over it.

I am sick and fucking tired of people looking at what Coach Rod did at WVU and think that automatically he doesnt like QBs who are more throwers than runners. Pat White has no arm and thus WVU ran a mostly run style spread. Shaun King was a statue and led the country in efficiency at Tulsa. His Glennville State QB threw a ton out of the spread.

You change the spread to fit your talent. What we saw yesterday was not the offense that Michigan has run the last 40 years. That was a pass first and run 2nd. If anyone thinks the offense we have run yesterday is the one we have run for 40 years, is a fucking imbecile and should become a ND fan.

Now if Antonia Bass comes back as is being reported things are looking really good for him. I am going to give Bass his own thread maybe. He is running now and if he is cutting by spring practice he will work out with the team.

I agree. I'd love to see Mallett in the shotgon spread with a quick passing attack and draw plays to McGuffie. I don't want to see the option spread a lot anyway. I'd rather see the QB beat you with his feet when the passing play breaks down. That's when you can rip off a 20 yard scamper with the LB's backs to you.

You change the spread to fit your talent. What we saw yesterday was not the offense that Michigan has run the last 40 years. That was a pass first and run 2nd. If anyone thinks the offense we have run yesterday is the one we have run for 40 years, is a fucking imbecile and should become a ND fan.

thank you....this is the point that has been driving me nuts all day

I can't believe the "oh shit, maybe it does work" articles and posts that have been put out there today

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thank you....this is the point that has been driving me nuts all day

I can't believe the "oh shit, maybe it does work" articles and posts that have been put out there today

Seconded.

I caught the end of the game on ESPN Classic earlier today.

MICHIGAN WON!!
Spoiler^

At the end, they mentioned that Lloyd was offered the Asst. AD job, does anyone know if he took it?

Yes. It's true. And he took it.
The Shadow of Lloyd is not yet completely gone.
Actually, what the fuck? Let him give a pep talk, let him read the players more Rudyard Kipling poems. Let him have a puppet show every monday after practice. Hell, let him recruit!
Just keep him off the sidelines.

I am shocked that this game was on ESPN Classic.

And I missed it!

Maybe I'll catch it if it ever comes on again. AND DON'T SPOIL IT FOR ME!

You know, growing up in Detroit as a Michigan fan I ALWAYS dreamed of playing for the Wolverines in the Citrus/Capital One/Verizon Wireless/Virgin Mobile Bowl.

You know, growing up in Detroit as a Michigan fan I ALWAYS dreamed of playing for the Wolverines in the Citrus/Capital One/Verizon Wireless/Virgin Mobile Bowl.



I thought you were a Spartans fan. Good to hear you aren't. Besides, between the Ravens, Lions, and Melvindale, you don't need another losing football team to cheer for.

I don't cheer for the Lions.
I don't cheer for Melvindale.

And what gave you the impression I'm a Spartans fan?

I was just given an "honorary invite" to the green and white tent by Sir Bukethdow himself.

and a blowjob from his wife.
What, did you think I was going to FUCK that fat bitch?

NVM. I was wrong.

I was also a Spartan in my past life, as I said in the Random Picture Thread.

I killed myself.

TV ratings are in, and UM-Florida was a hit. For those of you who think Florida has ANYTHING to do with it, consider that last year with UM there, the Rose Bowl had great ratings, something like a 77 share. This year, with NO UM, well, here's the story, as cut 'n pasted from Scout:

The New Year's Day bowl games were major duds on ABC, CBS and FOX.

With the lone exception of the Capital One Bowl, ratings for every bowl game on broadcast television New Year's Day were down significantly.

The Rose Bowl between USC and Illinois fell 17% on ABC, to a 12.0 from a 14.5 last year (when most of America was watching because Michigan was in it). The 12.0 overnight marks the lowest overnight for a Rose Bowl broadcast since Washington State/Oklahoma drew an 11.3 in 2003 (Notice: NO Michigan).

The Sugar Bowl saw a larger drop. The game, which featured a blowout of Hawaii by Georgia, drew a 7.9 overnight on FOX -- the lowest overnight for the Sugar Bowl since at least 2003. The 7.9 marks a 19% drop from the 9.8 overnight the Sugar Bowl drew last year, when the game featured LSU and Notre Dame. Compared to the game on New Year's night in '07, the 7.9 marks an 11% drop from the 8.9 for the Boise State/Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl.

Ratings for the Cotton Bowl were also off from last year. The game, which featured Missouri blowing out Arkansas, drew a 3.4 overnight on FOX, down 13% from last year. All of the bowl games on broadcast drew a better rating than the NHL Winter Classic on NBC, which is to be expected; the Gator Bowl finished closest to the Sabres/Penguins game, drawing a 2.7 overnight on CBS.

While most of the bowl games saw major declines, the Capital One Bowl was an undisputed hit. The game featured two of the marquee programs in college football, and was proof positive of their respective drawing power. Michigan/Florida drew a 9.9 overnight, up 71% from a 5.8 last year, and easily the highest rating for a non-BCS bowl game this year. The last time the Capital One Bowl drew a final rating higher than 6.0 was 2004, when Georgia/Purdue drew an 8.0.

When asked about these astounding results, BCS chairman Frederick "Grouchy" Hurlgristemstoofer said, "I wish we could clone Michigan, and have them play in all the bowl games. Hell, have BOTH teams be Michigan. Shit, who's playing in the BCS Title game this year?"

When asked about these astounding results, BCS chairman Frederick "Grouchy" Hurlgristemstoofer said, "I wish we could clone Michigan, and have them play in all the bowl games. Hell, have BOTH teams be Michigan. Shit, who's playing in the BCS Title game this year?"

Grouchy Hurlgristemstoofer wouldnt at all be related to zip goshboots, would he? 3rd brother of seymour butts?

Hurlgristemstoofer...sounds German.

3rd brother of seymour butts?

"Who's Seymour Butts?"
"Nobody's seen more butts than you, Uncle Tony!"

"Who's Seymour Butts?"
"Nobody's seen more butts than you, Uncle Tony!"

HEAVYWEIGHTS.......great movie!!!

O-VER-RA-TED!

Here's my big prediction: Michigan and Florida have the same exact record. Michigan beat Florida. I will bet my house that they're still ranked higher than Michigan in the final rankings.

That's the SEC love.

I would have been a rich man right now.

Let's not forget that Michigan beats Florida in their backyard, but that doesn't knock Florida down at all.

Doesn't count that Florida lost to Michigan. Florida is in the SEC.

I love the articles by people begging not to allow Ohio State into the National Championship game anymore.
It makes the Big Ten look bad, but I'm willing to have the blemish on the conference if it leaves O$U covered in crap.