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Big Swami
12-05-2007, 11:26 AM
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071205/SPORTS03/712050334/1051


SECRET SHEED: Despite volatile reputation, Wallace invaluable with advice for teammates

December 5, 2007

More than anything, people base their view of Pistons forward Rasheed Wallace on his past. Past blowups with officials, past technical fouls, past comments in the media.

No matter what he does, he irks opposing fans -- and opposing players -- much the way former Bad Boy Bill Laimbeer did. He's the Piston outsiders love to hate.

Even some Pistons fans feel that way. More than any other player, Wallace is the one who fans most often say they want traded.

It's sad, because the truth is Wallace, especially this season, is the kind of player any club would dream of having.

"People don't know him," forward Antonio McDyess said. "In the locker room, he's such a good guy. ... I think it's just unfair to him. They don't know him as the Rasheed we know him as. When he's not on the floor, you can see, we're a totally different team without him."

His play this season has been focused and consistently good -- not to mention largely technical-foul-free. Wallace has posted up when easy baskets are needed, and he has played intelligent defense that makes life difficult for opposing players.

He also has controlled his famously uncontrollable emotions. His technical foul in the first quarter Tuesday night at Atlanta was only his second of the season.

But there's so much more.

From his hilarious pregame dancing -- when he pops into the circle of teammates for a hoedown -- to his love of throwing basketballs at unsuspecting teammates, to say Wallace keeps things loose is a gross understatement.

He makes everyone around him feel good. When he sat out a game recently with injury and walked onto the court after the national anthem, the entire team began to smile, one-by-one, as each player saw him. That's telling.

During games, Wallace is the Pistons' best on-the-floor communicator. He also spends time-outs making suggestions to teammates to make things operate better. Some people simply see Wallace sitting on the scorer's table, away from the cluster of players at the bench during breaks. They don't hear him offer X-and-O advice to his teammates as they gradually come to sit with him.

"He always comes talking to me because we're bigs," McDyess said. "Even when he wasn't playing, he'd be saying, 'Hey, stop the ball here, it's a lot easier. Pick up the ball, get it out of the guards' hands.' It's stuff that the coaches don't say, but 'Sheed always picks up on those things."

McDyess said Wallace sees things he doesn't.

"He's always talking about what we need to do, and that stuff actually works," McDyess said. "It's little detail stuff we don't think about. I don't know how he picks it, but he does."

That extends to practice, too, when Wallace's running commentary makes certain that every player brings his best. Especially with young players, Wallace offers a tough-love approach that molds prospects into more complete players. With the current crop of youngsters, that mentoring role is more important than ever.

For instance, third-year forward Amir Johnson credits Wallace for helping him learn to hold his spot in the post with a lower base.

"When he opens his mouth, man, everybody listens," Johnson said. "If you're doing something wrong, he puts his opinion in. And everybody listens to him."

McDyess said he sometimes even asks Wallace to tone it down because he worries about the young guys' confidence. But Wallace certainly is more of a help than a hindrance, regardless of whether haters want to believe it.

"You can see how much he's helped Amir," McDyess said. "Amir's gotten a lot tougher, a lot stronger. He tells Amir all the time, 'Do everything strong, do everything strong.' And now you see Amir posting up a lot stronger, not taking threes. He used to shoot threes when he first got here, and 'Sheed would say, 'Get your (butt) on the block!' "

Wallace -- who deflects credit like it's an opponent's shot in the lane -- would say to all of this: "That's just me hoopin'. That's just basketball."

I'd say it's so much more.

Timone
12-05-2007, 11:28 AM
Rasheed as the head coach with Laimbeer and Mahorn as assistants. Oh man.

Tahoe
12-05-2007, 11:31 AM
He'd prolly get T'd up during the National anthem.

metr0man
12-05-2007, 11:32 AM
This is the 3rd or 4th reference I've seen that suggests Sheed might be born for coaching. One was Sheed knowing and running all the plays in the playbook from all positions (Simmons picked up on that little note). Another was a comment by Flip not too long ago about how Sheed has certain coaching tendencies. Now this.

Glenn
12-05-2007, 11:36 AM
Nice use of the KLJ emoticon, BS.

And no, Sheed will not go into coaching.

Nobody would hire him.

Timone
12-05-2007, 11:36 AM
Better him than Lindsey.

metr0man
12-05-2007, 11:37 AM
Joe D might!

ok maybe not, but he'd probably be more open to it than most.

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 11:44 AM
Nice use of the KLJ emoticon, BS.

And no, Sheed will not go into coaching.

Nobody would hire him.

Thanks, Glenn, you are my role model.

I really think that if he keeps his record (and his car) clean, and pays his dues with honors, there would be plenty of people willing to hire him. Maybe not as a head coach, but certainly as an assistant. To listen to McDyess talk, he really does have a mind for the game. You can't fake that.

I think the bigger obstacle is his own interest in pursuing that kind of thing. Maybe he just wouldn't care enough to want to do it. But if he did, I think he could be pretty good.

Glenn
12-05-2007, 11:48 AM
I think he wants to make his $ and then get the hell away from the NBA, maybe he'll tell Stern to fuck off on the way out.

CTC, baby.

As a coach of any kind (head, assistant, etc.) I think the inability to "fight the system" would eat him alive, and if not, it would eat his paycheck alive (fines).

gusman
12-05-2007, 12:01 PM
He'd prolly get T'd up during the National anthem.

LOL

geerussell
12-05-2007, 01:19 PM
Since he got to detroit anyway, his blowups seem to happen mostly when calls are directly on him in the heat of the moment.

When he steps in as a third party, it's usually to try and defuse the situation. Off the court, he doesn't draw fines and seems to have a decent relationship with the media.

Guessing ahead several years beyond his retirement maybe it's not crazy to think he could have mellowed/matured enough to work the sidelines without getting ejected every other game.

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Since he got to detroit anyway, his blowups seem to happen mostly when calls are directly on him in the heat of the moment.

When he steps in as a third party, it's usually to try and defuse the situation. Off the court, he doesn't draw fines and seems to have a decent relationship with the media.

Guessing ahead several years beyond his retirement maybe it's not crazy to think he could have mellowed/matured enough to work the sidelines without getting ejected every other game.

Playing devil's advocate: you may be right, but the public perception (IMO) is way off base from what the reality is. You and I know that Sheed isn't Stephen Jackson, but many other people have already made up their minds.

Glenn
12-05-2007, 02:00 PM
Maybe if he waits until all of the current NBA refs die off or retire he might have a shot.

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 02:18 PM
Maybe if he waits until all of the current NBA refs die off or retire or get indicted he might have a shot.

Zekyl
12-05-2007, 02:39 PM
What about as a college assistant to start? Less of a "fight the system" mentality because its less of a corporation

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 02:53 PM
What about as a college assistant to start? Less of a "fight the system" mentality because its less of a corporation
Just because the players get paid slightly less than they do in the NBA doesn't mean they are any less of a corporation. In fact, they might be worse because every college and every conference has their own rules and bullshit. I can imagine it would get absolutely suffocating.

Zekyl
12-05-2007, 02:58 PM
I just meant he doesn't have Stern directing traffic anymore. He'd be teaching young guys that are ready and willing to learn. You don't have as many superstar personalities in college. I'm not saying you don't have superstars, just that they are less likely to be as bad as the me-first-NBA-superstars.

Uncle Mxy
12-05-2007, 09:46 PM
Sheed coaching women's ball, in a game against Laimbeer. Both coaches are mic'ed up. I have a dream...

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 10:33 PM
Didn't Rodman also express an interest in coaching women's ball?

Timone
12-05-2007, 10:41 PM
Don't know, but knowing him I'd think he'd want to play women's ball.

Uncle Mxy
12-05-2007, 10:54 PM
He'd be a player-coach -- a playa, and a coach.

Matt
12-06-2007, 09:36 PM
"I've got my post-NBA career all set"

http://static.flickr.com/37/102321957_d7d97dc987.jpg

Timone
12-06-2007, 10:11 PM
Rasheed Wallace to the WWE?

Tahoe
12-06-2007, 11:05 PM
Roscoe loves boxing. Speaking bout boxing good bout tomorrow night? May vs Hatton

Timone
12-06-2007, 11:12 PM
That's tomorrow?

Tahoe
12-06-2007, 11:24 PM
Yep and I have a Christmas party to go to. I don't know if I'd buy it but its gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeeet

Tahoe
12-07-2007, 12:08 AM
Tomorrows tomorrow