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b-diddy
12-03-2007, 12:56 AM
good article on state of affairs:

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119664696219211314-sgRNGTttr6hv84kLzwvvMWj7OGg_20080101.html?mod=tff_ main_tff_top

right now, obama has the edge in iowa, and seems to have regained momentum. if he takes iowa, hilary loses her most valuable commodity: her 'inevitabality'.

w/ just 30 days, i think hilary has to do something beyond getting stories written that her nomination is a foregone conclusion. it will be interesting to see what kind of mud she slings, and what affect it will have.

i dont really identify myself as a democrat anymore, but of all the realistic candidates for 08 i by far favor obama.

Big Swami
12-03-2007, 08:14 AM
Hilary is already busting out that Obama has a "character issue." I hate people talking about "character" in politics. I think I like her now less than I did before - which is really something.

If Obama and Huckleberry walk away in Iowa, this race gets incredibly interesting.

Uncle Mxy
12-03-2007, 10:07 AM
http://hillaryattacks.barackobama.com/

Fool
12-03-2007, 10:31 AM
Seriously, who reads this shit?

Big Swami
12-03-2007, 11:51 AM
Seriously, who reads this shit?
The kind of people who jack off to Tom Clancy novels.

Zekyl
12-03-2007, 11:55 AM
Bukdow?

Uncle Mxy
12-03-2007, 12:20 PM
The kind of people who jack off to Tom Clamp-me novels.
Fixed.

Tahoe
12-03-2007, 01:36 PM
I don't want Hillary. It will just bring out a bunch of shit from the Republicans and it will bring out the 'she can't do anything wrong' from some Dems. I'm so done with the Clintons. They're so 90s.

Big Swami
12-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Tahoe, it's very likely that Bill Clinton will be part of any Democratic administration if the Dems win in 2008. Either as UN Ambassador, Secretary of State, or even possibly a Supreme Court nominee. Think about it - it would be the GOP's worst nightmare if they suddenly had to vote on another referendum on Bill Clinton. They'd approve him for anything just to get it over with. He'll be around a while.

Highly doubtful now that Hilary would get the nod to serve in a Democratic administration if she loses to another Dem at the convention. She's already a US Senator, she had plenty of detractors before, and she's run a fairly divisive campaign. Not that anyone really thinks "not Hilary, fuck her." They're just thinking "she's ambitious enough, I don't need to do her any favors."

Uncle Mxy
12-03-2007, 02:27 PM
Bill Clinton would be more a "special envoy" than SoS or even U.N. Ambassador.

I'd laugh my ass off if an attorney disbarred from the SC made it in as a judge.

b-diddy
12-03-2007, 02:37 PM
impeached for perjury... im doubting hed get approved.

Tahoe
12-03-2007, 02:42 PM
I can handle Bill in some role in the Gov't. I was not a Bill hater, imo anyway. Some of those peeps just hated him. I didn't feel like that.

Hillary, on the other hand, I don't like. I don't like her demeanor, what she says, what she looks like, etc...just off the top. :)

Yes to Bill, not to Hill

Uncle Mxy
12-03-2007, 09:22 PM
impeached for perjury... im doubting hed get approved.
It was never perjury. To be perjury, it would've had to have been proved to be relevant to the case. We've had worse sitting on the court.

Big Swami
12-03-2007, 10:17 PM
It was never perjury. To be perjury, it would've had to have been proved to be relevant to the case. We've had worse sitting on the court.
The Three Terrible T's of the Court stand as monuments for all time: Taney, Taft, Thomas. Bill Clinton doesn't even come close.

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 10:19 AM
Uh oh, Huckleberry's in trouble.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

A rapist got let out of jail in Arkansas while he was governor, and he went on to rape and kill when he was released. Huck sez he wasn't all that involved with the guy's release, but apparently now one of his former aides has released papers that say he actively lobbied for this guy's release, despite being urged not to do so by tons of people.

Read the whole article, it's really interesting. Apparently he released the guy because one of his victims was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and he didn't want to seem like he was doing Clinton any favors.

EDIT: There's also an important part of this I seem to have left out. Apparently this rapist was castrated at some point. Some crazy right-wing conspiracy journalists took up this story and were absolutely convinced that no rape actually happened and that this guy had been railroaded and castrated by the Evil Clinton Arkansas Mafia. All the while, these people were sending tons of letters to Mike Huckabee, asking him to set this guy free, because he's a victim of the Klinton Konspiracy. So Huckabee gives in. And the guy is set free, and promptly rapes and kills someone else in Missouri. Turns out that there's plenty of evidence that this guy castrated himself, and for some reason some of these right-wing writers haven't killed themselves.

Uncle Mxy
12-05-2007, 03:54 PM
If it wasn't enough to prohibit his re-election in Arkansas, it's probably not enough to amount to a "Willie Horton" moment nationally, even with these new revelations (none of which seem to resonated with mainstream media, AFAICT).

Big Swami
12-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Yeah, but the fact that the story even exists at all is basically a warning - the further Huckabee gets in the primaries, the more likely it is that he's going to have to answer some of these questions in a debate setting. The other Republicans might not tear him up over it, but I guarantee you a Democrat is prepared to remind the press every single day about Wayne Dumond.