View Full Version : TOC Finals #1 Ali vs. #1 Kennedy, ALI WINS
The Syndicate 11-15-2007, 08:27 AM #1 Muhammad Ali
vs.
#1 John F. Kennedy
Discuss and provide evidence (video, pics, audio, etc).
Voting ends Nov 27 in the a.m.
Timone 11-15-2007, 08:51 AM Sorry John, your road ends here.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1981647.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A633E48926A364C448 9930FDCFC4C15FBB
Wilfredo Ledezma 11-15-2007, 03:17 PM JFK
Wilfredo Ledezma 11-15-2007, 03:17 PM our next tournmanet has to be w/ women btw...
Glenn 11-15-2007, 04:45 PM The early returns have this shaping up to be a classic finals matchup.
Is anybody going to make a case for one over the other?
Tahoe 11-15-2007, 05:02 PM Glennn Agree discush is needed for this contest.
I'll start with a ??? for the board. This has been discussed before but what are we rollin with for a definition of cool?
Kennedy did some pretty cool stuff stuff but some might not agree that a chick-onda-side is cool.
This is a toughy for me. I'm not voting till the day the polls close...which is? not sure.
Big Swami 11-15-2007, 05:03 PM Kennedy did some pretty cool stuff stuff but some might not agree that a chick-onda-side is cool.
Being the only US President to save the world from a nuclear holocaust is pretty cool imho. But I'm still going with Ali.
Zekyl 11-15-2007, 07:53 PM You've gotta go Ali here. Just look at all the guy has done. I mean, as the President you're expected to do the great things JFK did (not counting the partying), but as a heavyweight boxer you're not expected to do anything but beat the crap out of people. Ali took his publicity and put it to good use. He didn't take any of it for granted at all. He had the world at his fingertips and he chose to be a good person. You have to respect that.
luniz 11-16-2007, 08:41 AM ali has 80 or however many years of being cool, that's the problem, jfk just doesn't have the same body of work.
ps big props to christopher walken for the upsets
Some people argue that JFK's actual body of work isn't that much compared to the fame he had and of course still has (I personally neither agree nor disagree with that one).
Ali came out of nowhere to take on a very good champion, never once thought he was going to lose; hell, he had everyone up in arms because he was so sure he would win, and he wins the fight and goes on to be someone who transcended his sport, his reputation and even his own persona.
MOLA1 11-16-2007, 01:56 PM I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark.
Zip Goshboots 11-16-2007, 04:22 PM our next tournmanet has to be w/ women btw...
You want to take women to a game, cuddle up with them and popcorn and watch the Super Bowl, and now you want the tournament of cool to include women? What the fuck do you want to be when you grow up? THIS:?
http://tjsdoubleplay.com/images/pdonahue.jpg
Glenn 11-16-2007, 04:23 PM I think he means we should do a "tournament of women", as in hot-tays.
Zip Goshboots 11-16-2007, 04:25 PM No, I thought he meant women could be "cool", like this:
http://www.celebrityweek.com/uploadimages/photogallery/EllenDegeneresPortia(WENN).jpg
Timone 11-17-2007, 09:13 AM I'll take the blame for Wil suggesting we do a Tournament for hot chix. I was the one who came up with the idea in the "Currently listening to" thread. Well, my dick did anyway.
And NO female alive is cool. They can burp and watch sports, but at the end of the day they have to sit down to pee.
http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ebsu/New%20Pictures/Muhammad%20Ali.jpg
Tahoe 11-17-2007, 09:08 PM I'm gonna go with JFK ...a part of it is the PT109 story in WW2 where his boat blew up and he survived on a Island in the middle of nowhere.
The problem I had in voting was that Kennedy had in my opinion the two most important single events that had to be weighed (the PT boat and the Cuban Missile crisis) but still came up short against Ali.
I'll take the blame for Wil suggesting we do a Tournament for hot chix. I was the one who came up with the idea in the "Currently listening to" thread. Well, my dick did anyway.
And NO female alive is cool. They can burp and watch sports, but at the end of the day they have to sit down to pee.
Elecktra ... you want to handle this?
geerussell 11-21-2007, 01:50 AM I'm going with JFK. Coolness has a shelf life and if you outlive it it starts to spoil. JFK got his melon pureed at the peak of his cool under epic conspiracy circumstances, preserving his cool for all time.
Ali could've held his own and maybe won this matchup had he the good judgement to die in the ring or something but shaking and mumbling his way into the sunset, his coolness is dripping out the leaky radiator of decrepit old age.
Big Swami 11-21-2007, 01:48 PM I totally disagree with that G. Old age, and being crippled, ain't for sissies. You don't get to be a 66 year old Parkinson's patient by being made out of sugar candy.
Glenn 11-24-2007, 11:10 AM This poll will close on 11-27-2007 at 08:27 AM
Zekyl 11-25-2007, 11:19 AM I was just coming to the thread to ask that Glenn
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