http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/2004/scans/46_front_dead_bull_small.jpg
aka
http://www.wheelchairbulls.com/images/bull-t.jpg

VS.

http://www.pistonsdownloads.com/images/taygame2.jpg
And his Crew
minus

http://www.nndb.com/people/665/000022599/kobebryant1-msht.jpg

There's only one result I'm searching for.

http://www.2goglobal.com/2GoChronicals/2%20Go%20Photos/Europe/France/drag_bull.jpg
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very nice OGT! [smilie=welldone.gi:

I really missed the ol' "Gutz Gatsu photo OGTs"

God, how great would it be for the Bulls to be 0-5. A lot of ESPN "analysts" will need to eat some crow...

Also I'm hoping somebody (Maxiell maybe Nazy Mo) hard fouls that prick Andres Nocioni...

I'm hoping it's someone we can afford to lose for a little while - like Lindsey.

I'm hoping it's someone we can afford to lose for a little while - like Lindsey.

Or Super Dupe

Dear lord the bulls have been weak this year. Hopefully they dont magically remember how to shoot this game.

The first 4 were trap games for the bulls.

Nice ogt gg.

I want Skiles to blow a gasket and get T'ed,

National TV tonight, that's nice. 6pm start for me is a little early, but can't complain they will be on out here.

Pistons-Bulls Preview
By BRETT HUSTON, STATS Writer
Posted Nov 7 2007 6:00PM
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2006-07 Stats at a Glance

Though they lost to Detroit in six games in the Eastern Conference semifinals last season, the Chicago Bulls thought they were just a step away from overtaking the Pistons as the Central Division's most dominant team.

That hasn't been the case one week into the 2007-08 season.

The unbeaten Pistons (3-0) and the winless Bulls (0-4) meet for the first time since last season's playoffs on Thursday night at the United Center.

Chicago was picked by many to represent the East in the NBA finals this season, but has gotten off to a slow start, especially on the offensive end. The Bulls are 29th in the league in both shooting percentage (37.3) and points per game (87.8).

"We need to stick with it as a team," forward Luol Deng said following Tuesday's 97-91 home loss to the Los Angeles Clippers. "We're not finishing games and I know the fans are disappointed, but we'll keep battling and get better. Coach (Scott) Skiles' message is to keep battling and get better."

Trade rumors involving unhappy Lakers star Kobe Bryant have been swirling around the Bulls for weeks, though Chicago GM John Paxson has squashed those talks for now, stating late last week "there's not going to be a deal done."

Skiles, for one, isn't overly concerned with his team's early struggles.

"I'm not much of a panic guy," Skiles said. "We'll try to figure out why we're playing the way we are, why when the game is on the line we're not able to step up and make big plays."

One major concern for Chicago has been the play of center Ben Wallace. The 12th-year pro, who has averaged 10.7 rebounds during his career, has only grabbed 4.3 boards per game this season. And though he's never been much of an offensive threat, his 3.8-point average is his lowest in 10 seasons.

If the Bulls are looking for a game to break out of their scoring rut, the Pistons probably aren't the ideal opponent. Detroit has given up just 87.7 points per game to lead the NBA.

The Pistons opened the season on a Florida road trip, blowing out Miami and Orlando by a combined 35 points, and used a 32-point fourth quarter in their home opener to beat Atlanta 92-91 on Sunday.

Detroit's early success is due in part to strong play from its bench.

The reserves scored 45 points in the win over the Magic, led by Flip Murray's 19. Against Atlanta, the subs again played a key role, with Jarvis Hayes and Jason Maxiell sparking the comeback.

"Our bench got us back in the game in the fourth quarter, and that let our starters relax," Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. "They were able to get their composure, come back in and finish off the game."

Detroit plays six of its next seven on the road, including a five-game western swing. Playing away from The Palace, though, isn't a bad thing for the Pistons, who went 27-14 on the road and 26-15 at home last season to become the first Eastern Conference team since the 2001-02 Charlotte Hornets to post a better record away from home.

Chicago will conclude a three-game homestand Saturday against Toronto before beginning a six-game trip next Thursday.

The Bulls took three of four regular-season meetings between these teams last season. Detroit had won 28 of 32 against Chicago prior to that stretch.

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http://www.nba.com/games/20071108/DETCHI/preview.html

We get to see first hand how stupid Chicago was for giving Ben that contract.

Player of the game?

Bench performer of the game?

POG: 'Sheed
Bench: Jaaaaaaaaaaaarvissssssssssssss

Player of the game? SHEED

Bench performer of the game? FLIPPITY IPPITY MACK MURRAY

Flip Murray 4 prez

Why not?

The biggest quagmire that Flip Murray has led us into is a turnover.

Player of the game?

Bench performer of the game?


Rip, Jarvis or as darkobetterthanmelo calls him "Arvis" b/c he has no J

"Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" also makes for a great song to listen to before a basketball game. Flip Murray puts the boom boom into Glenn's heart.

And to think we could have Marko Jaric and Flip Murray on this team...


It's the only time I'll appreciate Nazy...Jarics a boner

We get to see first hand how stupid Chicago was for giving Ben that contract.

Joe Smith is outrebounding him by 2 RPG, with 8 less MPG. LOL.

Not good if you want people to buy your shitty shoes...

I could probably rattle off a hundred shitty big men who could put up 3 PPG and 4 RPG in 29 MPG.

Shit, Ostertag could still do that. Bring Oakley back or Horace Grant.

Shit, even Shaq puts more than that up at least.

I bet Nazr could put up 10 and 8 at the very least with 29 MPG.

I believe he put up close to that during the Spurs' title year in '05.

I stand corrected, he put up numbers close to that the year before with NY.

I don't think Ben is Orlando's Grant Hill, but I can hope he is. Good job JoeD.

I don't think Ben is Orlando's Grant Hill, but I can hope he is. Good job JoeD.
If only we'd gotten something back for him. Like Chucky and Ben for Grant. Eh, at least he's not our contractual burden.



And once again, a game I can't watch because I'm at work. Starts in an hour, keep me posted boys.

Yes, his trade opens up cap room, cuz Minor doesn't make what Kobe does.

And once again, a game I can't watch because I'm at work. Starts in an hour, keep me posted boys.

Pistons already won, 95-87.

beat da bulls.

Barkley says the Pistons are the best team in the East now...

This is the first game I get to watch this year. Looking forward to it (though they're down 7 right now).

Did Chicago do the Big Ben ringing last year too? Isn't that really just copying from the Pistons? Shouldn't they have some pride and be original if that's the case?

This is the first game I get to watch this year. Looking forward to it (though they're down 7 right now).

Did Chicago do the Big Ben ringing last year too? Isn't that really just copying from the Pistons? Shouldn't they have some pride and be original if that's the case?


Watch any Pacer/Cav games lately?

I don't see why the Bulls are 0-4...they picked up Joe Smith in the offseason!!!11

Sometimes, the Cavs last year in the playoffs of course being the last time. I take it the lack of originality is spread out over the entire division then?

Zek you are NOT missing an exciting game, so far.

Dude, fuck this game...I don't see Kirk's mom.

EsxBWdrWgNo

Sometimes, the Cavs last year in the playoffs of course being the last time. I take it the lack of originality is spread out over the entire division then?


The Pacers "go to work" since Rick got there, and the Cavs have jacked everything down to McCloud and making an offer to Mason. No pride.

Dude, fuck this game....

I'm ready to put on:

MSU vs UofM
GVSU vs MSU
Lions vs Denver

THE LONGEST halftime in league history right there.

Hey, whatever happened to Antonio McDyess?

the 11 to 2 offensive rebounding edge that Chicago has is obscene.

its a real lack of hustle out there.

We're only in this game because they are jacking up a few 3s that connected.

Hinrich sucks.

Man I fucking hate Tyrus Thomas.

holy shit! thats why he was the #2 pick.

I like how Chicago always goes to the "Detroit sucks" chants when their team can't make a shot.

Rip was fouled.

Is it my not having a cigarette in two days (and the insomnia at 4 am) or does anyone else find all the other teams in the Central (with the exception of maybe the Bucks) just really annoying? I mean, like bug the shit out of you and hope they always lose every single game annoying.

I hate the whole hype over Chicago and think Paxson should be named in the overated thread big time.

That said, my first game this year and we're getting killed in the paint and shooting too many jump shots. And you can see we're going to be using the starters all game.

Yeah, lack of sleep and nicotine make me so much fun.

I like how Chicago always goes to the "Detroit sucks" chants when their team can't make a shot.

Attention divertin bitches

I told ya Sheed might be the POG.

POG: 'Sheed



Cogent work timbeau/WTFMICH/Tim/The Mailman.

Nice battle between Sheed/Tyrus tonight.

Cogent work timbeau/WTFMICH/Tim/The Mailman. fb

one of those "if only..." games from sheed. fun, and maddening to watch.

This is about as good a matchup you'll see between two power forwards.

thats right RW, that was bullshit.

Afloul on Aflalo

Joakim Noah, welcome to my class... you can go take a seat right next to Mr. Bosh.

Rasheed for 40 tonight?

Man with Noah and Nocioni in Chicago, with Villanueva in Milwaukee, with Eric Snow, Ilgauskas, Drew Gooden, and Sasha the Wookie Pavlovic in Cleveland...

the Central Division is by far the ugliest in the NBA

and I hate Joe Smith

PJ Brown last year, Joe Smith this year. Where is old ass PJ anyway?

You know what would be great... if we could grab some damn rebounds.

Nice play, Jarvis sighting.

They have no business NOT going to Rasheed right now.

Flip Danzig sighting.

The bench has really stepped it up.

GRAB A FUCKING REBOUND! GRAB A FUCKING REBOUND! GRAB A FUCKING REBOUND!

The bench has really stepped it up.

If nothing else they're able to rest Chuancey, Tay and Sheed for a few minutes in the middle of the 4th so that they can close out the game.

I wish I could listen into the huddles here... because I'm really interested to know if Flip is hammering them about their shitty rebounding or not?

There's no reason why you don't give Rasheed the ball...

God everytime we get it down to 3...we can't score...

Tayshaun is playing like garbage...

Looks like the Fools may hold on.

Shit with the way they miss shots, maybe not...

God McDyess is useless

HELL OF A SHOT RIP

Ugliest fucking posession of the game, resulting in the biggest shot.

Ugliest fucking posession of the game, resulting in the biggest shot.


amen, how ty thomas didn't block that one is amazing...great shot nonetheless

sheed needs to go to work on his youngest son tyrus

ugh shitty turnover

god CHICAGO IS GIVING US THE GAME, MAKE A SHOT!!!!

How is that Chicago ball? Whatever, just don't let Joe Smith hit a 3 pointer with time running down on the shot clock...

LOL what a way to miss an FT...CLASSIC Post-MJ Bulls

God I'd give away a pinky toe to see the Bulls start out 0-5

I'd give away a foot to see 'em not make the playoffs.

I'd give away a foot to see 'em not make the playoffs.


Seconded.

Naturally Rasheed misses a big shot to tie it.

I'd give away 2 feet if Andres Nocioni can do a Mario Danelo

FUCK I hate Chicago fans.

Naturally Rasheed misses a big shot to tie it.


yep

After the game he's had, it sucks that Sheed's missed those last two shots.

part of me thinks the Pistons deserve to lose with the awful rebounding

The United Center smells like pure fart right now.

After the game he's had, it sucks that Sheed's missed those last two shots.


kind of takes away from the amazing night he had otherwise

Sheed's gone ice cold. Might as well just go with the Billups 3.

Game.

Sheed missed 2 of them. He's bummin.

Chauncey...

GOD I FUCKING HATE TYRUS THOMAS

Chanting "Detroit Sucks" when your team is about to go to 1-4 and your football team has been dominated by the Detroit Lions = priceless.

TYRUS THOMAS IS A FUCKING ASS CLOWN

Oh well, I thinks it says al lot about Chicago that they destroy the Pistons in the paint and on the boards and still needed last second Pistons miss to win this game.

Am I being selfish if all I ask for is 4 wins over these faggots?

The rebounding by the Pistons was obscenely sickening.

When's/what's the next game?

friday @ clippers

i mean no...clipps come to the palace

Sweet. I expect them to get this bad taste out of their mouths.

Chicago is easily the most flawed "contender" in the East...

Clippers are 4-0

They've beaten nobody.

Clips tomorrow then on a west coast swing for 5 games. Late night for the east coasters.

I hope Boston loses soon, just so we know everybody's human.

If Chauncey would've followed through on that 3, it looked as if he could've drawn the foul

Damn, is it just me or is it hard to take a loss even in an 82 game season?

Damn, is it just me or is it hard to take a loss even in an 82 game season?


I'm a little po'ed too

I mean I'm not pissed now or anything but I was cussing at the TV quite a bit after Rasheed missed and at the end of the game.

in the last couple minutes they got away from what they were doing that got them back in the game in the first place, they had rip taking random shots, sheed was trying to shoot from outside rather than dominating the fuck out of tyrus thomas downlow, mcdyess was useless out there...

we should've won

and Tayshaun could never get involved consistently...he went unnoticed today, sadly

At least I got the Melvindale football playoff game to go to tomorrow...

At least I got the Melvindale football playoff game to go to tomorrow...


I'm going to see my little brothers playoff game tomorrow...Parkway Christian Vs. Climax-Scotts WAHOO!

Melvindales got OLSM right?

I didn't watch as close as I usually do but it looked to me a lot like the old Pistons. Down most of the first half???isn't that right? thinking they can turn it on when they wanted.

Melvindales got OLSM right?

yep

I didn't watch as close as I usually do but it looked to me a lot like the old Pistons. Down most of the first half???isn't that right? thinking they can turn it on when they wanted.


yeah sort of, they were down for pretty much the whole game, their biggest lead was 1, they just couldn't capitalize on turnovers, they had tons of chances to take it...

they played hard enough, they were down by 12, once they came back they played tough the whole game, just shots weren't fallin'

OLSM's pretty good from what I've heard/read, definitely won't be as easy as the last game (42-7).

OLSM's pretty good from what I've heard/read, definitely won't be as easy as the last game (42-7).


yeah they are usually one of the better programs, usually up there w/ the Brother Rice's and Catholic Central's of the world...

the paper has Melvindale winning though...per Markowski

So you have played organized football?

So you have played organized football?


"have played" yes...backup fullback, i only played cuz my friends did

I went to Meldizzle High....I'm just a bootlick :(

i played w/ this one kid whos on bowling green right now...kind of a cool nugget, he's been at BGSU for 3 years and is yet to touch the field

I think I went to school with Anthony Woods' sister.

I think I went to school with Anthony Woods' sister.


Who's Anthony Woods....I'm wikipedia-ing

http://michiganstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?sport=1&pr_key=69224

gottcha

God, even though it's soooooo 2 hours ago...I still hate Tyrus Thomas

2 years from now I'll still hate Tyrus Thomas.

2 years from now I'll still hate Tyrus Thomas.

ill hate tyrus thomas...more than 2 yrs from now

ill hate tyrus thomas forever

I hate losing to Chicago.

Also, so much for developing the bench. Maybe that doesn't apply to division games or when the game is tight.

Dice, for one, definitely needs to play less.

I'm just sad to see such a great performance by Rasheed get flushed down. I was honestly expecting that we'd turn it on at the end and just nick 'em.

Turnovers and offensive rebounds -- ugh.

Sheed was 6 pts off his career high...

At least the next time we play Chicago, we know the game plan, give it to sheed, and let him go to fucking work on that piece of shit Tyrus

Here's a better game plan: rebound the f'ing ball.

Even if we TIE them or COME CLOSE to them on Rebounds... we win this game. We didnt even have to beat them, just keep pace. The offensive boards were just sickening.

I said this before, but I wish i could hear the coaching huddles in the 4th. If Flip hammered them on their shitty rebounding, great... if not he should be fired.

Here's a better game plan: rebound the f'ing ball.

Even if we TIE them or COME CLOSE to them on Rebounds... we win this game. We didnt even have to beat them, just keep pace. The offensive boards were just sickening.

I said this before, but I wish i could hear the coaching huddles in the 4th. If Flip hammered them on their shitty rebounding, great... if not he should be fired.

Tell me that Bill Laimbeer wouldn't be all over these guys for not getting boards...

Agree completely on Flip. Especially when we are getting out rebouded by their small lineups (Ty Thomas & Noah)

Tell me that Bill Laimbeer wouldn't be all over these guys for not getting boards...

Agree completely on Flip. Especially when we are getting out rebouded by their small lineups (Ty Thomas & Noah)


I'm pretty pissed that Joe didn't even acknowledge that Laimbeer wants to coach the pistons. Flip Saunders is so clueless during the games. He calls timeouts 2 or 3 plays too late before he can stop the other team from gaining momentum or a larger lead.

Why is he so hesitant to take out a starter if he is struggling? I know the bench sucked yesterday but Sheed or Dyess can be 0-5 one game and Flip will leave them in. It's so frustrating to watch other coaches make simple adjustments, or call time outs at the right time.

Play the bench and for gosh sake, practice more on the pick and roll. We were getting slaughtered by the same play with Hinrich and Thomas over and over.

Laimbeer isnt respected by many as a coach. I personally love his growth as a HC and think he'd be a damn good and entertaining fit here. Post game ratings would skyrocket.

Let me say that Affalo was all hustle. He needs to put up more points but he can be a big time factor against teams like Chi-Town. He plays like he gives a damn 24/7.

The Pacers "go to work" since Rick got there, and the Cavs have jacked everything down to McCloud and making an offer to Mason. No pride.

And now maybe CWebber and/or Dale Davis.