Obviously this is either an oversight or a conspiracy.

http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/10781146.html


3 MSU Football Players Charged With Robbery

Posted: 10:54 PM Oct 24, 2007
Last Updated: 9:00 AM Oct 25, 2007

Reporter: Jeff Proctor
Email Address: jeff.proctor@wilx.com

Three Michigan State University football players were charged with unarmed robbery Wednesday. Linebacker SirDarean Adams and defensive backs T.J. Williams and Jeremy Ware were arraigned in 55th District Court in East Lansing. We don't know the details of the crime except that it happened last April. MSU football coach Mark Dantonio says he was notified around the same time. He says the players are still on the team and will continue to play in games until the legal process is finished.

He released the following statement to News 10:
“We were notified about an alleged incident back in late April, and this week charges were filed. We have closely monitored this situation for over six months. Throughout this process, our student-athletes have been cooperative with the authorities, and they have maintained their innocence to all parties involved. In fairness to the student-athletes alleged to have been involved in the incident, the prudent decision is to allow the legal process to continue to run its full course and for the truth to be determined. These student-athletes will remain on the roster and continue to have the opportunity to play in games. We take allegations of this nature very seriously, and we will not discuss this issue any further until there’s a legal resolution.”

Not nearly as big as The Fab Five.

Is that his real name or a missprint. SirDarean?

That's his real name.

And this doesn't take away from the fact that Michigan lost to App State.

With the way the "O" played against OSU you knew it had to be "unarmed robbery", no?

Can we talk about field hockey some more?

I'm a big fan of "due process". No gun, no foul. I say let 'em play until they get their 90 hours of community service and six months probation.

They were arraigned Wednesday in District Court in Mason on a felony robbery charge, according to court records. Williams also was charged with misdemeanor assault and battery in the altercation on April 21.

I hear that felonies are lovely this time of year.

Also: Appalachian State

I realize that due process should be allowed to play itself out, but I would suspend them from the team. They should not even be implicated in such a thing.

Allegedly, the three of them beat up a guy outside an L&L grocery and then robbed him. These thug football players really get on my nerves. I don`t give a damn if they are 16-star super-recruit, if they cut from the "thug-life" cloth, I do not want them anywhere the football team. I`d rather go 6-6 with good kids than be in the NC with a bunch of damned hoodlums.

I realize that due process should be allowed to play itself out, but I would suspend them from the team. They should not even be implicated in such a thing.

Allegedly, the three of them beat up a guy outside an L&L grocery and then robbed him. These thug football players really get on my nerves. I don`t give a damn if they are 16-star super-recruit, if they cut from the "thug-life" cloth, I do not want them anywhere the football team. I`d rather go 6-6 with good kids than be in the NC with a bunch of damned hoodlums.

I'm of the opinion that where you have 100 people gathered (and of course, they aren't Message Board Saints), you got some negative elements.

I love that coaches know what they're getting, and still try to work with kids that, let's face it, if it weren't for sports, society would rather toss into prison.

You try to work with, and teach them good things when you are a coach. You hope you are the ONE that gets them turned around. AND, you don't abandon them when they screw up.

I'm of the opinion that where you have 100 people gathered (and of course, they aren't Message Board Saints), you got some negative elements.

I love that coaches know what they're getting, and still try to work with kids that, let's face it, if it weren't for sports, society would rather toss into prison.

You try to work with, and teach them good things when you are a coach. You hope you are the ONE that gets them turned around. AND, you don't abandon them when they screw up.
I understand what you are saying and agree with most of it. However, when these talented, yet ethically questionable, athletes step on campus, it should be made crystal clear to them that thuggery and criminal behavior will not be tolerated. If they find that too oppressive, then they can go somewhere else besides MSU.

You have a different set of ethics that have been shaped by a silver spooned life and **Two college degrees**.
Alot of these kids haven;t just been fucked over by society, but in many cases by their own families and freinds, and neighborhoods. AND, most of all, the school system, their last bastion of hope.
When they step on campus, it is a different world, one in which they are not likely to be able to adapt to. They are suddenly the center of attention on a larger scale then in high school, with national media all over them.

They also are part of a sytem which will chew them up and spit them out when they are spent. They come from a walk of life that has done that to them as well.

All of this, and you call THEM ethically challenged? They are coached and taught and guided by whores who do anything for a quick buck, who lie to them, and many who take advantage of them to upsell themselves.

AND, the larger sytem that makes ZILLIONSES of dollars off their performance on the field.

Wasn't Adams in legal trouble at MSU before? Maybe I am making that up, but I thought he has had prior trouble there.

I realize that due process should be allowed to play itself out,

but

I would suspend them from the team. They should not even be implicated in such a thing.

Allegedly, the three of them beat up a guy outside an L&L grocery and then robbed him. These thug football players really get on my nerves. I don`t give a damn if they are 16-star super-recruit, if they cut from the "thug-life" cloth, I do not want them anywhere the football team. I`d rather go 6-6 with good kids than be in the NC with a bunch of damned hoodlums.

Emphasis added by me. :) I don't see any reason to jump to the conclusion that these guys are "thugs" or impose serious penalties (yes, a suspension from the team is a very serious penalty) while they're still under a legal presumption of innocence.

A person can't always control what they get implicated in.

To you Walmart Wolverines: who lost to Appalachian State? Shut the fuck up.

And by STFU, you mean keep talking?

You catch on quick!

You have a different set of ethics that have been shaped by a silver spooned life and **Two college degrees**.
Alot of these kids haven;t just been fucked over by society, but in many cases by their own families and freinds, and neighborhoods. AND, most of all, the school system, their last bastion of hope.
When they step on campus, it is a different world, one in which they are not likely to be able to adapt to. They are suddenly the center of attention on a larger scale then in high school, with national media all over them.

They also are part of a sytem which will chew them up and spit them out when they are spent. They come from a walk of life that has done that to them as well.

All of this, and you call THEM ethically challenged? They are coached and taught and guided by whores who do anything for a quick buck, who lie to them, and many who take advantage of them to upsell themselves.

AND, the larger sytem that makes ZILLIONSES of dollars off their performance on the field.

Again, I agree with what you are saying. I especially agree with your point regarding the environments where these kids come from and how they are treated like beef cattle throughout their athletic careers. nonetheless, violence and thuggery are unacceptable. I am not saying turn your back them. What I am saying is part of not turning your back them is teaching them accountability and how to be decent men. I believe turning a blind-eye is tantamount to turning your back.