One of my boys freinds is Senior leader in our HS Band. He had to write a letter to the freshman, letting them know what their responsibilities are coming up when they travel... that starts in couple of weeks.

In the letter he said something like, and if you don't follow these rules, 'I'll kill you' Sure enough, a parent got upset and my sons friend was booted from school. He has a 4.6 gpa. Their other friend that graduated last year, went on to Stanford with not as good a GPA, so Stanford looked to be within his reach for sure.

NOT ANYMORE. On the Application, there is a question asking if you have ever been suspended. So his mom and him finished the Apps up and got them post marked the day he was suspended, so it could be a truthful statement at the time. Hopefully he learned a lesson.

I have a friend that says that too. We all know she doesn't mean it like that, but saying that does stand out, doesn't it.

Schools, and the general public, are so retarded nowdays. I'm glad I'm not a kid now, and I wonder what kind of crap my kid will be dealing with someday. Hell back in the 80s and early 90s I was suspended a ton of times, expelled twice, and left schools in the first semester with enough detentions to serve out the rest of the year but I was pretty bad. Kids can't get away with anything now.

I was told that any suspension less than three days doesn't count on permanent records or anything like that. Of course, that was an eon ago and now it's all permanent unless proven otherwise...

It's NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND Tahoe! Except, of course, if it's a child.
George Orwell was a prophet.

It's NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND Tahoe! Except, of course, if it's a child.
George Orwell was a prophet.

Double-plus uncogent.

Is that the first "uncogent"?

My friend got expelled from missing too many days. Another got expelled for getting caught from smoking like 3 times. I don't think any of these are worth a boot from the school.,

Double-plus uncogent.

A DOUBLE PLUS!!!! Wow, that must have been another Great Post by me!

My friend got expelled from missing too many days. Another got expelled for getting caught from smoking like 3 times. I don't think any of these are worth a boot from the school.,
I'm wondering if they still collect per-student money from the states' coffers for expelled students.

The female's cousin goes to a high school where something like five missed days in a semester gets you expelled and that includes with doctors notes. I think they make an exception if you miss a week because of mono or something, but there has to be a meeting with the parents and basically you are screwed otherwise. Also if you are found to be missing from one class during the day it counts as a whole day. Oh yeah, it is a public school.

Mxy, as far as I know they have a head count day close to the begining of the year which is what that funding is based on. I remember getting told every year how important it was to show up on that day.

I'm wondering if they still collect per-student money from the states' coffers for expelled students.


Yes, if they were there on count day.

I'm surprised it isn't as simple as "if you don't show up, we don't get money to teach you and you're expelled". I was just thinking about expelling someone in terms of money lost. You expel someone at 15 that would've stayed until 18 and you lose 3 years worth of funding from that student. It seems to me that schools would do everything in their power to NOT expel kids. I'd go as far as paying the otherwise-expelled students money to show up just on count day. I'd pay dropouts and everyone under the age of 18. I'd have private schools transfer their student populations to to the public schools for one day and pay the private schools.

You'd also go to jail for fraud, I'd expect.

I was just reading where a 2nd grader was suspended for drawing 2 stick figures, one with a squirt gun squirting the other. A 2ND GRADER!

BTW My son's friend is back in school today. And in this school district they break the money down per day, so being sick one days costs the school.

We push sex and violence to younger and younger kids, but are increasingly intolerant and overreact when harmless displays of such things happen with kids in schools. Swell.

I do have to feel for the school who is afraid that they'll get sued the one time the one kid out of a million turns out to be a psycho. No one wants to be the next Columbine. But school violence is down, been going down all the time.

We have a "safety at what cost" problem in this society in a big-time way. I'd rather see people obsess more about the places where it really isn't safe rather than the schools that are, by and large, safe. Of course, that can be spun as being "against the children"... <sigh>

The funny thing about this is that none of this benefits the kids at all. Because kids grow up completely protected from any threats or injuries, they grow up into monsters that have no idea of the consequences of certain actions.

If you grew up with Elmo instead of Grover, you suck. No one born past 1980 should ever be allowed to drink, drive a car, or vote. Whippersnappers! Get off my lawn!

I hate how Elmo kinda horned his way into the spotlight.

Super Grover = underrated

LMAO @ the idea of the 60s being "dangerous". Wake up old men. Real crime hadn't even been invented yet.

I was lucky enough to spend part of my life in the 70s, and not a goddamn thing has gotten better in the world since then. Every single summer day I left home at 9am, went into the woods, built bridges over the river, climbed to the tops of tall trees, dug holes, caught caterpillars, jumped ditches with my BMX bike, and came home for dinner covered in mud from head to toe. I wouldn't trade it for all the video games in the world.

By the way, Super Grover = teh win. Did anyone watch Free To Be You And Me when they were kids?

We have a "safety at what cost" problem in this society in a big-time way. I'd rather see people obsess more about the places where it really isn't safe rather than the schools that are, by and large, safe. Of course, that can be spun as being "against the children"... <sigh>

I felt less safe in my schools than anywhere else in my life. That includes the ghetto.

I felt less safe in my schools than anywhere else in my life. That includes the ghetto.
Was that because you were younger? How long ago did you attend? What were you afraid of?

I mean, I feel less safe in airports, but it's not because I really fear terrorists or getting shot or mugged (unless you count airport parking -- found bullet shells at the old Northwest terminal). That stuff happens, but infrequently. It's the pickpockets, the TSA screwups, getting lost, egregiously sick people coughing up a lung on my flight, etc. that spook me.

I graduated in '98, and from about '90 on I felt less safe in school than anywhere else. (For the record I never started a fight) In '90 I went to a rich kid Catholic school and was getting caught up in scuffles almost every day. '91 I was the only white kid in my grade and one kid that didn't like me started a rumor that I was racist, despite the fact that I was friends with a bunch of people who were black... so I almost got jumped after school on a daily basis. The school was also closed for a day because cops were pulling stray bullets out from a drive-by. '92-93 went to a school overrun by gangs. People who were in their 20s would meet in the cafeteria to back up gangbangers and have big gang fights and it was so planned it wasn't uncommon to have 20 or more cops present in anticipation of the fight. Library passes for lunchtime were impossible to get because kids avoided the cafeteria like the plague. I even got attacked by a chick once while waiting in line after a cop had stopped her during a fight... she just attacked me because I was the nearest person. Aside from the cafeteria I saw or was way too close to stabbings, gang stomps, kids getting beaten with hardcover book corners to the temple, and the grossest thing was a kid got a golf ball sized chunk bitten right out of his forearm. I was also involved in a few fights. '94 I went to a rich kid school again but everybody was hippies so that wasn't bad. '95 I went to a school full of redneck nazi jocks, no shit. I was in a band and had long hair so I was one of the favorite targets of the entire jock population. Halfway through that year, sophmore in case you're keeping track, I dropped out and signed up for homeschooling. I did it all on my own and got a real diploma, not an equivalant. Somehow I escaped without ever getting so much as a black eye.

Aside from my schools crazy shit happened at my friends schools too. One school had trains of assholes run down the hallway and they would pick one person who every guy would hit as hard as they could as they ran by. There was a Christian school by me which was one of the best neighborhoods in the city that was pretty much overrun by gangs. I can keep going lol.

uxKa's not racist, his best friend is black!

My school experience was a bit different than UxKa's, that's for sure.

I went from unsafe schools in Pontiac to safer schools as I grew older, but that was as much a function of getting a better education as anything. I'm told by a couple reliable authorities that the unsafe schools I went to are much safer than when I went there -- not exactly safe by any stretch, but safer. I skipped a grade early on, so I was younger and smaller than the other kids growing up. I felt unsafe, but for reasons that seemed like they had as much to do with "me" as "the school". I have a hard time drawing the line between normal K-12 insecurities and "unsafe", thinking back to some situations. I didn't know how not to attract attention, didn't really perceive how different I was, didn't have much situational awareness. I learned early on that just because my name is on something doesn't mean I own it, that some things didn't make sense unless you forced them to. But, I still had a long way to go.

The last serious fight I had was as a sophomore. Someone who thought he was a kung fu master (though still a relative lightweight) was picking on my nerdly self in gym class, and clearly being the instigator. We took it off the school grounds. It was this big event kinda fight with 40-50 people watching, despite it being snowy and cold. After good ol' ninja boy kicked me in the balls (which didn't hurt -- wearing a cup, hearing him advertise his technique, and advance scheduling of a fight sure has its advantages), I took karate kid by the hand and forearm, breaking his wrist on my knee. He collapsed in pain, and I won in the first/last round. I already had a reputation for being a little crazy, but after that, most people thought I was a psycho and didn't want to get on my bad side. If you fuck with me, you will wish you hadn't. I never started a fight, but I learned to finish.

Glenn thinks Mario Lopez (http://z.about.com/d/realitytv/1/7/o/u/mario.jpg)is cooler than you.

Glenn thinks Mario Lopez (http://z.about.com/d/realitytv/1/7/o/u/mario.jpg)is cooler than you.

Not true, Mxy is pretty much the shit.

Also, how is that relevant?

Tenuous post Fool, at best.

Actually, it was incredibly :cogent:

See here (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10544)

Mxy ain't no actor.

Mxy busts up fools for real.

I bet he can do a nice soft shoe as well.

Mxy ain't no actor.

Mxy busts up fools for real.
Well, I did -- past tense. For the most part, people don't fuck with me. I've never been in great shape, but I'm big, tall, of suitable temperament, and told I can come across as menacing without intending to.

The last time I had to significantly "handle" anyone was maybe a decade ago, when my then-gf's psycho ex-bf broke into her house. The wimp thought I wasn't around because my car wasn't parked outside (was in the shop). It wasn't hard to... uhhh... "persuade" him to leave before I killed the guy. If my gf weren't there too, I probably wouldn't have held back. He actually had a Swiss army knife (which he used to slit his wrists on her porch a few weeks later), but he was a hundred pounds scrawnier, caught by surprise, and just scared shitless of me. Not to come across as a major-league badass, which I'm not, but it's not too hard to get someone to drop a knife when you throw a table at them...


I bet he can do a nice soft shoe as well.
Funny you should mention that. The line I used to use on another past gf was "I'm 6'5" -- I don't dance, I flail." (and yes, that accurately described my dance style at places like City Club). This worked for a long time, until one day she chimed in with "Fred Astaire was 6'5" and he danced just fine". And eventually, I got conned into one of those "how not to dance like an idiot" classes for couples, where everyone was either a young engaged couple or retired. All that training has amounted to is "hey, I think I did that one before" when I gawk at the dancing babes on Dancing With The Stars. :)