We're continuing with our in-depth looks at other teams around the league leading up to the start of the regular season.

Discussion topics can include, but are not limited to: roster makeup, offseason acqusitions/losses, likely rotation, playoff chances, strengths/weaknesses, coaching, best players, bench strength, team needs, cap room/available exceptions, etc.

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2007-08 Roster
NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
6 Marquis Daniels G 6-6 200 01/07/1981 Auburn 4
12 Travis Diener G 6-1 175 03/01/1982 Marquette 2
1 Ike Diogu F 6-8 255 09/11/1983 Arizona State 2
17 Mike Dunleavy F 6-9 230 09/15/1980 Duke 5
10 Jeff Foster C-F 6-11 250 01/16/1977 Texas State 8
23 Stephen Graham G 6-6 215 06/11/1982 Oklahoma State 2
33 Danny Granger F 6-8 228 04/20/1983 New Mexico 2
13 David Harrison C 7-0 280 08/15/1982 Colorado 3
3 Troy Murphy F 6-11 245 05/02/1980 Notre Dame 6
7 Jermaine O'Neal F-C 6-11 260 10/13/1978 Eau Claire HS (SC) 11
48 Lukasz Obrzut C 7-1 265 08/31/1982 Kentucky R
20 Andre Owens G 6-4 200 10/31/1980 Houston 1
21 Kareem Rush G 6-6 215 10/30/1980 Missouri 4
44 Courtney Sims C 6-11 245 10/21/1983 Michigan R
11 Jamaal Tinsley G 6-3 185 02/28/1978 Iowa State 6
4 Shawne Williams F 6-9 225 02/16/1986 Memphis 1

HEAD COACH
Jim O'Brien (College - Saint Joseph's)

ASSISTANT COACHES
Dick Harter (College - Pennsylvania)
Lester Conner (College - Oregon State)
Dan Burke (College - Portland State)
Frank Vogel (College - Kentucky)
Jay DeFruscio (College - Ursinus)

STRENGTH-AND-CONDITIONING COACH
Shawn Windle (College - Maine - Presque Isle)

ATHLETIC TRAINER
Josh Corbeil (College - Boston University)

ASSISTANT TRAINER
Carl Eaton (College - Lock Haven)

Discuss.

I look for the Pacers to be lottery bound and in the Central cellar this year.

If Larry Bird wasn't an in-state legend, his ass would have been run years ago.

I like the Ike Diogu acquisition, but they've got a lot of benchwarmers disguised as contributors on this team.

Can they really run Jamal Tinsley out there again this year? Can't they find someone to take him, even if they have to pay to get rid of him?

I can't stand Jeff Foster, but at least he busts his ass and overachieves. They could use about 4 more guys like that.

Tinsley
Dunleavy
Granger or Daniels
Murphy
Jerm

That makes them one of the slowest teams in the NBA, IMO.

O'Brien loves the three ball, but who is going to get open looks and knock them down?

It's still fun to hate the Pacers, just not as fun as it used to be.

The more I watch the Pacers develop, the more I realize that Bird does not know what he's doing in the front office. He can't assemble a team to save his life on either chemistry or talent, but he has been lucky now and again.

Of that entire roster there's only one guy I really like (Granger). The rest are nothing but injury prone douchebags.

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No excuse for the Pistons to even lose one game to these guys this year.

Foster usually beats us singlehandedly at least once.

I should've said "in the regular season".

Foster and Granger = Solid. Hard working. Good team guys.

Everyone else = Worthless, for the most part.

Kareem Rush is who they are hoping will hit there threes. Remember Rush from LA, then Charlotte, then nowhere. That was their big signing. Bird went so far as to guarantee they'd bring in a shooter. He brought in Kareem Rush. The dude has no clue. He's the one that brought in Sarunas AbouttobebackinEuropeacus.

Granger is good but O'Brien will only hurt his development as the kid doesn't need to be sitting at the arc which he, and everybody else, will be doing in OB's offense.

They actually like Dunleavy. Of course they do. They LOVE overpaid, unathletic, white, no-range, plodders, who can't play D. He's like the uber-Croshere.

Troy Murphy is a poor man's ....shit that center who's on the Kings. You know who I'm talking about. He's a poor man's that guy when he was good.

Daniels is aight but he can't shoot and on a team that can't shoot either he won't have any lanes to play his slashing game.

Of course O'Neal is solid when he's healthy and if they can focus him on defense he's a stud. Unfortunately one guy does not a team make and he's suspect as that one guy to begin with.

O'Brien is one of the endless retreads.

Kareem Rush is who they are hoping will hit there threes. Remember Rush from LA, then Charlotte, then nowhere. That was their big signing. Bird went so far as to guarantee they'd bring in a shooter. He brought in Kareem Rush. The dude has no clue. He's the one that brought in Sarunas ImbackinEurope.

Granger is good but O'Brien will only hurt his development as the kid doesn't need to be sitting at the arc which he, and everybody else, will be doing in OB's offense.

They actually like Dunleavy. Of course they do. They LOVE overpaid, unathletic, white, no-range, plodders, who can't play D. He's like the uber-Croshere.

Troy Murphy is a poor man's ....shit that center who's on the Kings. You know who I'm talking about. He's a poor man's that guy when he was good.

Daniels is aight but he can't shoot and on a team that can't shoot either he won't have any lanes to play his slashing game.

Of course O'Neal is solid when he's healthy and if they can focus him on defense he's a stud. Unfortunately one guy does not a team make and he's suspect as that one guy to begin with.

O'Brien is one of the endless retreads.

Worst team in the league.

Trade everyone but Granger and star the fuck over.

Problem is its hard to trade overpaid pieces of shit for anything (see flip murray..not really overpaid, just a piece of shit..., nazr mohammed, adonal foyle)

Hey, someone was stupid enough to trade for Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy. Maybe they'll be stupid enough to trade for Indiana's garba................. oh shit...

I didn't know Sarunas had already signed with someone. Where did he go Cross?

Brad Miller is the guy I was thinking of.

the panthokasdikias?

the really famous European team everyone hopes on.

I remember when the Pacers signed him, the Pacers were suppose to dominate.

They should be looking to trade Tinsley asap along with Daniels.

They should be looking to trade Tinsley asap along with 90% of their roster.
Fixed

They've been trying to trade Tinsley for 2+ years.

My reaction to this was, "um, okay?"

If they had used alpacas instead of sheep, I might have driven there tonight looking for a fight.

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That was the stupidest shit I have ever seen. In fact, that actually made me angry.

Indianapolis needs to just fall off of the map. Or maybe the Pacers can just fold.

Indiana actually scored 140 points tonight in Memphis...

Indiana actually scored 140 points tonight in Memphis...

that's not that only time they've gotten past 110

With o'brian is their coach( he is right?), they scored so many points. I think they going with an uptempo offense and they've been scoring over 100 every damn game.

Indiana actually scored 140 points tonight in Memphis...


Means nothing, this team is awful...that 8 player trade Larry made last winter really set this team back a few years...plus they got no 1st round draft pick, and their best player will probably be elsewhere come mid-season...Jim O'Brien is going to have his hands full...and personally I don't even think he was a great hire for them anyway...

they added Kareem Rush, Andre Owens, and Stephen Graham- my God!

Indiana actually scored 140 points tonight in Memphis...

The Darko effect.