Anyone happen to catch the new Pontiac commercial? I've seen it three times this morning already. It is basically a fast forward summary of the game finishing with the announcer saying, "ONE OF THE BIGGEST UPSETS IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS!" Unbelievable, a commercial based on a game. B-Diddy flying in to somehow convince us that this wasn't a monumental upset in 5...4...3...2...

Man, all you do is talk shit, Tre. You are the reason guys like Tommyz and Jethro and JackOffThai don;t come here anymore!

They made one for Boise State-Oklahoma too.

Upset Of The Year (8)
The operative theme for this season: Anything can happen, and will, and the more unlikely it sounds, the more likely it seems to be. When five Top 10 teams lose on a single weekend (Sept. 28-29) and that's not even in the top three most shocking developments of the year, you know it's been nuts.

1. Stanford 24, USC 23 (Oct. 6). As heroic Cardinal receiver Mark Bradford said Sunday, "This feels like Disney really happened to us." Pete Carroll, however, might not share that warm-and-fuzzy feeling after losing to his new nemesis, Jim Harbaugh.

First Harbaugh disclosed last spring that he'd been told this was Carroll's final year at Troy before returning to the NFL. Pete didn't like that. Then Harbaugh said at Pac-10 media day in July that USC might be the best football team ever. Pete didn't like that. Now Harbaugh's team turned a presumed beatdown into the biggest shocker of this or any other century. Don't think Pete liked that much, either.

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Jerry Moore and the Mountaineers upset Michigan to kick start 2007's crazy ride.

2. Syracuse 38, Louisville 35 (Sept. 22). In its five games other than this one, the Orange averaged 12 points per game -- and lost all five. So scoring 38 and ending the Cardinals' 20-game home winning streak officially qualifies as preposterous. And provides utter condemnation of Louisville (a team The Dash will further condemn below).

3. Appalachian State 34, Michigan 32 (Sept. 2). The game hailed as the new gold standard for upsets couldn't last three weeks without being topped, and couldn't last five without being topped again.

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ok, dancing bear, i never said it wasnt a big upset. my point (and not mine alone, other posters actually said this before me) was that ap state loss wasnt as big as people thought, simply cuz app state had some true talent on its team and that michigan was way overrated. you could find dozens of articles saying the exact same thing as what i posted above.

but sparty on tre, youll be missed when you go back into hiding after the next state loss.

All I know is Appalachian State pulled off the unthinkable, hats off. However I feel a helluva lot better the past 3 or 4 weeks (especially after USC went down).

Wasn't it Tre who said something like..."No one talked shit cept Butblow"

All I know is Appalachian State pulled off the unthinkable, hats off. However I feel a helluva lot better the past 3 or 4 weeks (especially after USC went down).
Appalachian State is a I AA school. Stanford is a I A school and in the same conference as USC. A surprising victory, but nowhere near Appalachian State over UM. The same with Syracuse and Louisville. That being both are I A schools. Take a look back at Appalachian State`s recruits over the last few year and then look at UM`s. For those who are trying to ameliorate the UM loss to Appalachian Stae by pointing to Stanford/USC and Syracuse/Louisville are deluded to the moon. Facts are facts, jackasses.

Let us not forget, Appalachian State lost to Wofford.

i think the exact tre-ism was more like "im classier than to talk shit about this epic, completely embarrassing, you'll never live it down, people will be talking about this for 10 years, loss".

Appalachian State is a I AA school. Stanford is a I A school and in the same conference as USC. A surprising victory, but nowhere near Appalachian State over UM. The same with Syracuse and Louisville. That being both are I A schools. Take a look back at Appalachian State`s recruits over the last year and then look at UM`s. For those who are trying to ameliorate the UM loss to Appalachian Stae by pointing to Stanford/USC and Syracuse/Louisville are deluded to the moon. Facts are facts, jackasses.

Let us not forget, Appalachian State lost to Wofford.

you didnt list any facts.

Appalachian State is a I AA school. Stanford is a I A school and in the same conference as USC. A surprising victory, but nowhere near Appalachian State over UM. The same with Syracuse and Louisville. That being both are I A schools. Take a look back at Appalachian State`s recruits over the last few year and then look at UM`s. For those who are trying to ameliorate the UM loss to Appalachian Stae by pointing to Stanford/USC and Syracuse/Louisville are deluded to the moon. Facts are facts, jackasses.

Let us not forget, Appalachian State lost to Wofford.

What does it matter? I feel like a million bucks either way.

I never said Stanford or Syracuse's wins were bigger than Appalachian State's btw. So if you're going to try to make shit up, go on about how being a Michigan fan is the equivalent to gold digging.

you didnt list any facts.
FACTS: 1)Appalachian State is a I AA school.

2)Stanford and Syracuse are I A.

3)Stanford is in the same conference as USC.

4)UM has astronomically better recruiting classes than App. State.

5)Appalachian State lost to Wofford

Additionally, Appalachian State beat UM at home. A UM team that was ranked #5 in the preseason polls and thought by many to have a very good chance at the NC.

What does it matter? I feel like a million bucks either way.

I never said Stanford or Syracuse's wins were bigger than Appalachian State's btw. So if you're going to try to make shit up, go on about how being a Michigan fan is the equivalent to gold digging.
You are correct. My post should have been directed toward b-diddy.

Appalaichan State upset of Michiga: Biggest EMBARRASSMENT ever. Next!

Since we all should know where Appalachian State is by now, where's Wofford?

Since we all should know where Appalachian State is by now, where's Wofford?
A small liberal arts college in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

Wasn't it Tre who said something like..."No one talked shit cept Butblow"

You're damn right. And I was thanked by numerous posters so go back and look at the thread if you don't believe me. People like Diddy didn't return the same courtesy and acted like dicks. Therefore, it is on. I have a theory about Diddy though, he's just a pissy fan who whines and cries and has to take his frustration out on State fans. He's still pissed that his team is the bust of the year.

Anybody that argues that Stanford over USC or Syracuse over Louisville were bigger upsets than freaking APPALACIAN STATE OVER MICHIGAN are either UM homers, biased writers, or they just need to dramatize the story because they are in the media.

People years from now will not talk about those other two upsets. People will forever be talking about App. State over Michigan. Sorry Diddy, but Michigan has the "Biggest Embarrassment" crown on its head and it will be there for a long long time. Deal with it and quite acting like a whiny bitch. Dude whines about big hits, whines about calling his team's loss monumental, cry cry cry nancy boy

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60

I think it's great that I've been able to not take sports as seriously as I did since the Pistons lost game 6, college OR pros.

I'm wondering why they didn't make a commercial on the Syracuse game or Stanford. hmmm

i think the exact tre-ism was more like "im classier than to talk shit about this epic, completely embarrassing, you'll never live it down, people will be talking about this for 10 years, loss".

Exactly.

Anybody that argues that Stanford over USC or Syracuse over Louisville were bigger upsets than freaking APPALACIAN STATE OVER MICHIGAN are either UM homers, biased writers, or they just need to dramatize the story because they are in the media.

People years from now will not talk about those other two upsets. People will forever be talking about App. State over Michigan. Sorry Diddy, but Michigan has the "Biggest Embarrassment" crown on its head and it will be there for a long long time. Deal with it and quite acting like a whiny bitch. Dude whines about big hits, whines about calling his team's loss monumental, cry cry cry nancy boy

That's true too. Until Michigan wins a national championship, this loss is going to be the proverbial "monkey on the back" for every Michigan fan.

I'm tired of hearing about it, so I avoid it as much as possible. But it's still painful when it gets brought up.

As I said in the other thread.

At least Michigan can be in this position. MSU not so much so and so the best they can do is live through other schools.


Congrats on living through Appy State.

Only fans of elite teams can talk shit.

Fans of wannabe schools, I just remind them who they root for and they usually STFU.

Only fans of elite teams can talk shit.

Fans of wannabe schools, I just remind them who they root for and they usually STFU.

Do they say "oh yeah, the regional power. The same asshole gasbags that lost to that division 2 school." God that's hilarious, still.

Oh and what would your overrated ass know about "elite?" One-half an NC in 50+ years. You poor sots are the most confused fan base in the world. Elite of the elite my Aunt Esther.

Whoof on. It's what you're best at...

Do they say "oh yeah, the regional power. The same asshole gasbags that lost to that division 2 school." God that's hilarious, still.

Oh and what would your overrated ass know about "elite?" One-half an NC in 50+ years. You poor sots are the most confused fan base in the world. Elite of the elite my Aunt Esther.

Whoof on. It's what you're best at...

Exactly! Art spewing the word Elite is comical. Elite according to who Art? Mr. Hart and company are gearing up for their 4th straight loss to OSU and their 4th straight bowl loss while you talk about Elite. Maybe it's just me but .5 NC's in 50+ years isn't quite Elite.

Oh, now Tre has someone NEW to parrot!

.5 buck buck BAGAWK! .5 WAAA WAAA Tre wanna cracker! uuuhAPPLE State BAWK!

If Michigan is not truly elite, then what is the big deal of a Appy State beating them on the national stage.

It is funny that tre changes his tune again. We have had this discussion so many times in the past that if UM football is not elite than neither is MSU basketball.

I am sure you will deny everything and I am not going to pull up posts.

What is elite....being a national power over 50+ years or just being a team that has a nice 10 year run?

I guess MSU hasnt lost yet today or you guys wouldnt be around.

"What is elite....being a national power over 50+ years or just being a team that has a nice 10 year run?"

You humps buy all the hype from the Bo-Bo/Canham machine. It's laughable. Why do you think some genius came up with the "Big 2 and the Little 8?" I know it's despicable and they probably don't support the troops. You play in a shit league that discovered the forward pass about a month ago. That crap football with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust plays great in the midwest and then when it was bowl time the other team put nine men on the line and you dopes looked at each other and said "what do we do now??" You took your flogging like the posers you always turned out to be. YOU call yourselves a national power. Go ahead. Everywhere I've ever lived Phoenix, Scottsdale, L.A., Berkley, Seattle, Anchorage, Vancouver Island, and Cape Cod and now here, if anyone KNOWS who you might be they realize it's a running gag about the "Elite of the Elite" (ya. cuz THEY said so...don't you know?) and if you find someone who disagrees..... they WENT TO A2. Good God get over yourselves.....50 years of Regional Superiority? No problemo with that one.

"If Michigan is not truly elite, then what is the big deal of a Appy State beating them on the national stage."-Artemis-

It's because anyone who follows CF a wee bit knows of the inflated self image you gasbags have of yourselves. Certainly not all. But the ones who do go a long way to ruin it for the OBJECTIVE fan. So when the loudmouth who is always flapping jaws about "the leaders of the best" or however that insipid little ditty goes and then segues into the "elite of the elite" rap....well it's pretty funny shit when some school that would fit in Section D of the Great Big High School Field kicks you ass up and down. Am I making a breakthrough?

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OK...I don't give a fuck what you clowns think. UM is an elite Football team based solely on its history, record, helmet...etc. But arguing that the USC loss was worse the UM's is comical. Just stop...Michigan's loss was an absolute joke and I wish people could just be objective for once and see it for what it was, which is an embarssment.

OK...I don't give a fuck what you clowns think. UM is an elite Football team based solely on its history, record, helmet...etc. But arguing that the USC loss was worse the UM's is comical. Just stop...Michigan's loss was an absolute joke and I wish people could just be objective for once and see it for what it was, which is an embarssment.

Thank you!

Only fans of elite teams can talk shit.

Fans of wannabe schools, I just remind them who they root for and they usually STFU.
Do you not understand your choice to be a fan of an elite team is COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE?! You choose to be a fan of an elite team just so you can walk around and shoot your mouth off. Fuck you. You have NOTHING to do with the school, the team, nothing. You are just a wormy little lamprey that latches on to the biggest shark so you too can feel like a shark. Talk shit? Buddy, you can eat shit.

I have been a fan of UM since I was 3 years old. I became a fan because my uncle has one of those cool UM vans that the horn plays the fight song. He became a fan of UM because his wife has worked as a RN at the hospital for over 40 years. It had nothing to do with the fact that they were a good football team.

I was a Cowboys fan growing up because I was born and lived in Texas for my first 5 or 6 years. I only become a real Lions fan after Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry the way that he did. So I guess I am reverse bandwagon jumper with the mighty Lions.

You talk like you know anything about any of us.

I am not your buddy. I never will be. You resonate the little brother hate that comes with being a MSU fan.

I have you pegged. I dont know shit about you, but it is easy to make stuff up about people that they nothing about.

You were a UM fan growing up and applied there, but couldnt get in. But you were good enough for MSU. Thus because you couldnt get into UM you now hate them and anyone else who is a fan that didnt go there.

We get your whole schtick Budkow. Maybe Tre should point fingers at the assholes who support MSU just as much as UM for quality posters like Jethro, etc that have left.

Hey Tre is Budkow one of your "uninformed" posters. Budkow. I dont know why I bother. You are one of the worst posters that graces this or any other board that I post on. It is not my fault your wife gave you herpes and you school gave you ulcers.

bukdow:
This issue of fandom seems to drive you batty. I suggest that you reveal your true self: A Michigan grad who hates the typical college football fan. You know, the guy who didn;t go to the school yet roots for them?
Here in Nebraska there are about 1.6 Million Corn fans who didn't, or won't go to Corny University. Why? Because they want to make you mad. And they know they are succeeding.
Take me, for example. I've never even SEEN the University of Michigan (unless you count that time my firends and I went to a football camp there and burned a huge hole in the fifty yard line with a bonfire). And you know what?
I'm proud of my non affiliation! I didn't have to spend 100 grand (like your father did to put you through UM, Joel), and I reap all the benefits of being a UM fan!
For instance:
People laugh at me every year that UM plays Ohio State
People laugh at me every year UM goes to the Rose Bowl (that's alot of laughing, unlike if I was a Michigan State fan)
People laugh at me whenever Lloyd Carr is mentioned in the press
People laugh at me whenever the subject of basketball comes up
People laugh at me whenever the subject of "loses two to three games per year that they should beat the living fuck out of the other team" comes up

Yup, latching onto a "winner"--that's what we UM fans do, and we're proud of it. It's such a thrill watching Michigan drill the Northwesterns of the world, or the Indianas of the world, or the Michigan States of the world (30 of the last 40).

Well, Joel, I think I've taken enough of your time, I now turn the floor over to you, and will patiently wait for three hours to read your witty retort that will go something like this: "Fuckie fuck you damn hell Zip! You stink like doody because you don;t have two fuckie hell shit degrees like me fuckie hell asshole goddammit"

Actually, Art, Tre is one of those "Tenuously connected" fans. Didn;t go to State, and only glommed onto them because State has become a basketball power. He's a phony.

bukdow:
This issue of fandom seems to drive you batty. I suggest that you reveal your true self: A Michigan grad who hates the typical college football fan. You know, the guy who didn;t go to the school yet roots for them?
Here in Nebraska there are about 1.6 Million Corn fans who didn't, or won't go to Corny University. Why? Because they want to make you mad. And they know they are succeeding.
Take me, for example. I've never even SEEN the University of Michigan (unless you count that time my firends and I went to a football camp there and burned a huge hole in the fifty yard line with a bonfire). And you know what?
I'm proud of my non affiliation! I didn't have to spend 100 grand (like your father did to put you through UM, Joel), and I reap all the benefits of being a UM fan!
For instance:
People laugh at me every year that UM plays Ohio State
People laugh at me every year UM goes to the Rose Bowl (that's alot of laughing, unlike if I was a Michigan State fan)
People laugh at me whenever Lloyd Carr is mentioned in the press
People laugh at me whenever the subject of basketball comes up
People laugh at me whenever the subject of "loses two to three games per year that they should beat the living fuck out of the other team" comes up

Yup, latching onto a "winner"--that's what we UM fans do, and we're proud of it. It's such a thrill watching Michigan drill the Northwesterns of the world, or the Indianas of the world, or the Michigan States of the world (30 of the last 40).

Well, Joel, I think I've taken enough of your time, I now turn the floor over to you, and will patiently wait for three hours to read your witty retort that will go something like this: "Fuckie fuck you damn hell Zip! You stink like doody because you don;t have two fuckie hell shit degrees like me fuckie hell asshole goddammit"


WTF? Jo-elle?????????? NO!!!!!!

There's only two guys who would be capable, or interested in doing something like this: He and the other guy who thinks he's a good writer (TB). There are clues: bukdow is a super nerd. bukdow comes unraveled way too easily, offended at WalMart Wolverines (a sure mark of UM arrogance. How could you miss that? A true Sparty doesn't give a fuck. A true Michigander understands this UM-MSU thing), bukdow doesn't know how to swear (you KNOW there's an art to that).
I honestly don't know how you are missing all the, well, LOAVES of bread he leaves on the trail.

I have been a fan of UM since I was 3 years old. I became a fan because my uncle has one of those cool UM vans that the horn plays the fight song. He became a fan of UM because his wife has worked as a RN at the hospital for over 40 years. It had nothing to do with the fact that they were a good football team.

I was a Cowboys fan growing up because I was born and lived in Texas for my first 5 or 6 years. I only become a real Lions fan after Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry the way that he did. So I guess I am reverse bandwagon jumper with the mighty Lions.

You talk like you know anything about any of us.

I am not your buddy. I never will be. You resonate the little brother hate that comes with being a MSU fan.

I have you pegged. I dont know shit about you, but it is easy to make stuff up about people that they nothing about.

You were a UM fan growing up and applied there, but couldnt get in. But you were good enough for MSU. Thus because you couldnt get into UM you now hate them and anyone else who is a fan that didnt go there.

We get your whole schtick Budkow. Maybe Tre should point fingers at the assholes who support MSU just as much as UM for quality posters like Jethro, etc that have left.

Hey Tre is Budkow one of your "uninformed" posters. Budkow. I dont know why I bother. You are one of the worst posters that graces this or any other board that I post on. It is not my fault your wife gave you herpes and you school gave you ulcers.
That was a real heartwarming string of bullshit. Let me tell you again, you have NOTHING to do with the university and your decision to be a fan of an elite team is subjective bullshit. Your uncle was/is an even bigger ass clown than you. From ass clown cometh ass clown. Don`t go around here swinging your pussy about being a fan of an elite team when all you are is a loud-mouthed, bandwagon fan from a long line of loud-mouthed, bandwagon fans with no connection to the team you root for besides the desire to back a winner. Capice, ass clown?

There's only two guys who would be capable, or interested in doing something like this: He and the other guy who thinks he's a good writer (TB). There are clues: bukdow is a super nerd. bukdow comes unraveled way too easily, offended at WalMart Wolverines (a sure mark of UM arrogance. How could you miss that? A true Sparty doesn't give a fuck. A true Michigander understands this UM-MSU thing), bukdow doesn't know how to swear (you KNOW there's an art to that).
I honestly don't know how you are missing all the, well, LOAVES of bread he leaves on the trail.
OK, I`m lost. Who is it you think I am?

Zip, you continue to claim MSU fans only became fans once MSU became an Elite bball program. How the hell do you know when we became fans douche bag? My first memory of MSU was Lorenzo White jumping into the endzone over the USC Dline in the Rose Bowl. I've got Fire & Ice posters from the Snow to Respert days. Don't come here claiming you know anything about when we became fans. I've been a fan my entire life and I'm not 10 years old moron.

Art, your post above is probably the 2nd worst post you've ever made. The worst coming before you were banned from the site for while-haha forget about that? Little brother...maybe you need to go back to the stickied College Football 2007 thread above and read again how you were worked in regards to which sports program seems to be doing better right now. You basically conceded and now you're talking little brother. UM is the little brother right now and you need to look no further than our 5-2 football team, top bball program in the nation, and top hockey program in the nation to see that.

I think you are a slow witted, idiot, who has made up degrees to try and prove he is the only real fan that posts here.

I am surprised you have anything to do with Tre. Since he is no better than a K-Mart fan of MSU having not gone there or anything, but hooked onto their BBall team.


# noun: an ardent follower and admirer
# noun: an enthusiastic devotee of sports

Those are in the dictionary for fan. I must have missed the part where it says you have to live in the city or state or have gone to the school that you root for.

You talk like you know who we are, but all we get is a cock muncher on a shitty message board that makes me dumber every time I read one of your posts.

You wonder why people like Jethro left Tre....dont look any farther than your asshole buddy Bukdow to know why.

One last thing Budkow....this is the internet...anyone can claim anything. You are probably an 18-year-old freshman at UM who sucks the football teams cocks and thus you hate people who root for them. See how easy it is to figure out who you are.

Too beautiful of a day with the Lions having a bye this week to waste any more of it inside talking to a retard on a message board.

I have never been banned from this board as far as I know. Please enlighten me as to when and why I would have been banned.

if assholes like you and Budkow can hang around and stay unbanned, i dont see possibly how I would have been banned.

Your 5-2 football team that is 1-2 in the Big team compared to UM 5-2 football team and 3-0 in the Big Ten. You're right, you got me their big bro.

Ummm UM already beat the #2 team in the nation in hockey this season.

That was a nice 6-0 loss by your top rated hockey team yesterday.

What did I concede in another thread? 2006-2007 Directors Cup Michigan finished 4th, where did MSU finish? Oh yeah at 34. Couldnt even outclass that school in Evanston, IL. I mean you did happen to beat out Purdue for 7th place. Good job. You guys can carry around your sign stating "We are 7th in the Big Ten".

Zip, you continue to claim MSU fans only became fans once MSU became an Elite bball program. How the hell do you know when we became fans douche bag? My first memory of MSU was Lorenzo White jumping into the endzone over the USC Dline in the Rose Bowl. I've got Fire & Ice posters from the Snow to Respert days. Don't come here claiming you know anything about when we became fans. I've been a fan my entire life and I'm not 10 years old moron.

Your connection to MSU is tenuous, at best.
You fit the definition that bukdow has stated. You are a Kmart Spartie. I have no visible proof that you are anything but a Green Kool Aide drinking arrogant fan of MSU basketball.
And the arrogance of MSU basektball fans is appalling.

Art:

Currently here is where we stand. I'll take MSU. I'll also take me winning this argument easily. Enjoy my notes below little brother.

MSU Football 5-2 > UM Basketball
MSU Basketball Preseason Top 10> UM football Top 5 preseason started season with loss to Appy State LOL! Currently unranked.
MSU Hockey (honestly don't care much, just threw it in for fun) Defending National Champions> UM Hockey-great, but are you the defending NCs?

I can;t even fathom you making those arguments and hitting the "post quick reply" button.
That puts you completely into the Kool Aide mentality.

I can;t even fathom you making those arguments and hitting the "post quick reply" button.
That puts you completely into the Kool Aide mentality.

Tell me which part was inaccurate. Not a single thing I posted was not fact.

MSU 5-2 in football.
UM bball is horrible.
UM was preseason Top 5 and lost to Appy then got embarrassed by Oregon.
MSU is Top 10 preseason in bball and favorite to win BT.
Hockey, take it or leave it but we are the defending champions.

Straight up facts. Does the truth hurt Zippy?

MSU 5-2. 5-2 sounds good, but 1-2 in the B10 sucks, with loses to Wisky and NW.

Theres still time to even that out but, imo, MSU better not even be thinking about National polls and try to make a respectable showing in the B10 where they do not have a good record. iirc, its aint gonna get any easier in the weeks ahead for MSU.

UofM preseason...Oregon. The way the season is playing out, losing to Oregon is not embarrassing. Tremendous parity this year. Every week there is a surprising win. It was at our house, but this team is not built to play those type teams. I don't know what our record is against them, but I don't think its good.

Embarrassing = Appy St. Agree.

Oh and UofM BBall is horrible? What makes you say that?

This statement if complete sarcasm

The fallacy in your arguments is saying that MSU basketball PRE SEASON is better than UM football. You have to wait to see where both end up. And saying Sparty football is better than UM basketball is at this point, innaccurate at best, since Sparty Football still has a few games to play.

Now to your overall argument (I like overall, broad terms): UM's athletic department on the whole right now seems to be losing a bit of steam. You are right to point out basketball futility. The hockey team hasn't won an NC since '98, and MSU is defending champion (BTW: I feel hockey is important in the grand picture of an athletic department). But if you go back and look at Final Fours in hockey, Michigan has been to quite a few since last winning an NC, same as MSU basketball.
Since football is Michigan's premier program and basketball is MSU's premeir program, I do feel it's an apt comparison. Again, though, to compare where MSU basketball sits right now to UM football sits is kind of dumb. UM football can right the ship further, MSU bball could flop. We'll see where they end up.
Right now because of the image, MSU basketball is right where Hip says UM football is: Cruise control with pre season rankings. Stick MSU in there at #3-10 every year.
And here's another tidbit: If UM MIRACULOUSLY wins out and wins a bowl game, this is a successful season. Period. Upsets or not. Because I guarantee you that if MSU has a couple upsets, or gets to the NCAA Tourney with a 20-10 record or so, but goes on to make the Final Four, you guys will (rightfully) claim it to have been a great season.
UM football flops more, loses to OSU and a bowl game, then you win.

MSU 5-2. 5-2 sounds good, but 1-2 in the B10 sucks, with loses to Wisky and NW.

Theres still time to even that out but, imo, MSU better not even be thinking about National polls and try to make a respectable showing in the B10 where they do not have a good record. iirc, its aint gonna get any easier in the weeks ahead for MSU.

UofM preseason...Oregon. The way the season is playing out, losing to Oregon is not embarrassing. Tremendous parity this year. Every week there is a surprising win. It was at our house, but this team is not built to play those type teams. I don't know what our record is against them, but I don't think its good.

Embarrassing = Appy St. Agree.

Losing by 30+ in the Big House when you are a preseason Top 5 team is nothing less than embarrassing. If Michigan is supposed to be one of the best programs in the nation, you don't lose by 30 to anybody at home. Nice attempt to twist it. BTW, the Spartans need 1 more. 1 more and they have a bowl and have a better showing then expected.

Oh and UofM BBall is horrible? What makes you say that?

This statement if complete sarcasm

Maybe a decade of not even sniffing the postseason combined with losing a big senior group and returning virtually nothing. No true center, not a pg worth a damn on the roster. How's that? Remember I said it, they will be TERRIBLE.

Maybe a decade of not even sniffing the postseason combined with losing a big senior group and returning virtually nothing. No true center, not a pg worth a damn on the roster. How's that? Remember I said it, they will be TERRIBLE.

Thats it? Shit, I can prolly do bettre than that. I was being sarcastic, btw, when I asked what makes you say that.

Thats it? Shit, I can prolly do bettre than that. I was being sarcastic, btw, when I asked what makes you say that.

Gotcha, my bad. Sarcasm often doesn't translate on computers haha

I did the white text thing just for cya purposes.

Forgot to add, I view MSU's loss to NW more embarrassing than UofM losing to the Ducks. But thats me. Oregon has some cred.

Is there anything more entertaining than this board?

Oh my god...

I've been gone for a couple of days and I come back to this? I don't know where to begin with it.

I don't know if this ridiculous thread should be swatted or terrordomed.

This thread is officially stupider than "The Hit: Nemo!"

How many different ways can "my team rules, your team sucks" be stated?

How many different ways can "my team rules, your team sucks" be stated?

1,298,561,744
And Tre just bought a new program to install in his laptop that will help him find THEM ALL!!!!