Artis Chambers, UM true frosh who played a bit in the ND and PSU game was apparently just declared ineligible. One possible penalty is forfeiting the games he played in.

Gotta count that aginst Lloyd, right?

Gotta count that aginst Lloyd, right?
Or the admissions department.

That would be a nice crowning touch to this season.

Artis Chambers, UM true frosh who played a bit in the ND and PSU game was apparently just declared ineligible. One possible penalty is forfeiting the games he played in.

This is HUGE!
Notre Dame won't be winless, and they'll be back in the BCS picture!

http://pennant.phm.k12.in.us/art-gallery/fall-colors-of-notre-dame/P1010247.JPG/image_preview

I heard no probable forfeit.

Today's win counts regardless.

This needs to happen.

If it was ever going to happen, this is the right year for it.

Artis Chambers, UM true frosh who played a bit in the ND and PSU game was apparently just declared ineligible. One possible penalty is forfeiting the games he played in.

Do we need to get you set up with some grief counseling?

Your concern sounds completely genuine, at best.

we'd still have more big ten wins than sparty.

we'd still have more big ten wins than sparty.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! Yeah, you are a real integral part of the team and university.

I am just curious, where did you go to school? I mean university, b-diddy, not high school.

give me your address and ill mail you a copy of my diploma.

I am just curious, where did you go to school? I mean university, b-diddy, not high school.

What difference does that make in regards to what college team he roots for?

My guess is they will lose a scholarship...no biggie

I would guess losing a scholarship too. Like you said Bukdow, he was just declared ineligible after playing in those games.

I would guess losing a scholarship too. Like you said Bukdow, he was just declared ineligible after playing in those games.

It's Michigan, the Big Ten will relent. Bill Martin will just walk into the hearing and say "Fuck you. We're Michigan. We're arrogant"
The Big Ten will just say: "Maybe we should give you an extra scholarship for those helmets"

If you say UM has that much pull, then why wasn't your 2006 team replaying Ohio State for the Championship?

Michigan has so much pull that they actually lost their first 11 games, but went to the NCAA and had them pretend that the Wolverines won.

Top that.

The Big Ten will just say: "Maybe we should give you an extra scholarship for those helmets"

Can't forget the fight song.

The fight song is worth 11 scholarships. Even a Sparty knows that.

What do you think about those white road jerseys? I like those too.

Yeah, two more schollies for making that choice. Of course, Michigan State is docked four scholarships for copying.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21082674/

In case you haven't heard. Maybe two more potential loses for UofM!?!?!?!

Only 2 more....I see at least 5.

And they will all come at the hands of teams extremely focused in trying to win.

Forfeit loses!?!?! To Notre Dame and PSU for having a ineligible player (Chambers) participating in their first 4 games.

This is a minor infraction. If UM has to forfeit games over this after OSU was not when Troy $$ Smith was QB, then something is seriously wrong. Never mind, there is something wrong with the NCAA.

Chambers played on ST and has an assist.

This is a minor infraction. If UM has to forfeit games over this after OSU was not when Troy $$ Smith was QB, then something is seriously wrong. Never mind, there is something wrong with the NCAA.

Chambers played on ST and has an assist.
Arty, put a bag over your head. Listening to a Wal-Mart Wolverine complain about "something seriously wrong" with the NCAA is as ridiculous as the idea of Zippy being straight. UM basketball should have been nuked from the face of the earth for the $600,000/Ed Martin fiasco. The WORST scandal in NCAA sports history. Thank God UM has boot-licks like you and Shirley Temples like Zippy.

... and little brothers like you to beat up when we're fealing down.

... and little brothers like you to beat up when we're fealing down.
If I spelled as poorly as you I would feel down too. Oh, and get this straight nancy, I would break you over my knee like a piece of kindling.

I agree with Art: This ain't nothin' but a thang.
bukdow, what this means is another 40 years of insecurity for you Sparties: UM will skate again. Like they say, the NCAA has some sacred cows, and the Harvard of the Midwest just happens to be one of them!
It's GREAT to be/ a MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!
I think I'm going to go to WalMart today to get a new Michigan T shirt.

Nice kindling reset.

Looks like bukdow knows a little about spanking. Here he is getting one from The Duke. Word out of Hollywood is that bukdow made a killing during a career as a spankee-body double!

http://badexample.mu.nu/archives/spanking.jpg

I agree with Art: This ain't nothin' but a thang.
bukdow, what this means is another 40 years of insecurity for you Sparties: UM will skate again. Like they say, the NCAA has some sacred cows, and the Harvard of the Midwest just happens to be one of them!
It's GREAT to be/ a MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!
I think I'm going to go to WalMart today to get a new Michigan T shirt.
If UM is the "Harvard of the MW", what is Northwestern? Since Northwestern is the highest ranked school in the Big Ten, would they be the Oxford of the MW? The Sorbonne of the MW?

And why would I feel insecure? I actually have (2) degrees from a Big Ten school, that school being MSU, and I am damn proud of them. Shit, you don`t know the first thing about lipid metabolism nor do you have a clue about the mechanics of the fall of Apartheid SA. All you do is sit home, collect government checks and fantasize about blue and yellow clad boys.

One more thing, my cousin went to UM for her undergrad and Law degree. After she was done she had this to say, "I have seen enough Blue to last me a lifetime". She now lives in Texas and roots for the Horns. Zippy, you are just a clueless dumbass.

Nice kindling reset.
Nice avatar. It is nice to see I have had such an effect on you goofballs in such a short period of time. This isn`t your father`s wtfdetroit board. You UM boot-licks and ball-sniffers (Zippy) will be held accountable for your lack of character while I am here.

This is HUGE!
Notre Dame won't be winless, and they'll be back in the BCS picture!


They cannot take back the ND win. The rule is a big ten rule, not an NCAA rule. He is in total compliance with the NCAA. The only thing the big ten can do is take away the PSU win.

My guess is a fine since U of M reported the violation themselves and pulled him half way through the game. Plus he only played a few plays on special teams anyway.

let me say this again, this has nothing to do with the NCAA.

Aparently his grades were good enough in the last semester, but the big ten mandates the grades meet the mark for 2 straight semesters prior. The NCAA does not require the additional semester. This is all up to the big ten.

If UM is the "Harvard of the MW", what is Northwestern? Since Northwestern is the highest ranked school in the Big Ten, would they be the Oxford of the MW? The Sorbonne of the MW?

And why would I feel insecure? I actually have (2) degrees from a Big Ten school, that school being MSU, and I am damn proud of them. Shit, you don`t know the first thing about lipid metabolism nor do you have a clue about the mechanics of the fall of Apartheid SA. All you do is sit home, collect government checks and fantasize about blue and yellow clad boys.

One more thing, my cousin went to UM for her undergrad and Law degree. After she was done she had this to say, "I have seen enough Blue to last me a lifetime". She now lives in Texas and roots for the Horns. Zippy, you are just a clueless dumbass.

You're right. I wasn't aware that they had Apartheid in San Antonio. No wonder George Bush is such a fuck up.

And I hope you properly berate your cousin for her tenuous connection to Texas. What a whore.

And why would I feel insecure? I actually have (2) degrees from a Big Ten school, that school being MSU, and I am damn proud of them. Shit, you don`t know the first thing about lipid metabolism nor do you have a clue about the mechanics of the fall of Apartheid SA. All you do is sit home, collect government checks and fantasize about blue and yellow clad boys.


I am curious as to why you would return to school for a second bachelors degree that is completely unrelated to your first degree. Neither degree is particularly valuable at the bachelors level (i.e. how do you use Apartheid or metabolism info in daily work?). AFAIK, both degrees are most commonly used as stepping stones for other work (teaching, pre-med for biochemistry; teaching, law, public administration for history). So what is the point of accumulating multiple bachelors degrees instead of a masters degree.

seems t, ab

i've heard getting made up degrees doesnt involve alot of work. infact, discussing a made up degree pretty much equals, or even surpasses, the amount of work buckdow did to get his made up degrees.

which is why i just got made up degrees in geography and eastern philosophies. they dont really work well together, but i dont regret getting them either.

I am curious as to why you would return to school for a second bachelors degree that is completely unrelated to your first degree. Neither degree is particularly valuable at the bachelors level (i.e. how do you use Apartheid or metabolism info in daily work?). AFAIK, both degrees are most commonly used as stepping stones for other work (teaching, pre-med for biochemistry; teaching, law, public administration for history). So what is the point of accumulating multiple bachelors degrees instead of a masters degree.
My B.S. in biochemistry has been very useful. My knowledge of chemistry (inorganic and organic, let alone the biochemistry) is what landed me the job I have now (I work in an engineering lab for an aerospace company) as well as several other offers. In addition the curriculum included three years of calculus and two years of calculus based physics.

Now, the history degree was merely for personal interest and of no tangible (work) value. My employer footed the bill, so I did it. However, a degree in history definitely requires the ability to digest and clearly convey large amounts of information. Each of my senior seminars required a 50 page research paper with primary sources. It may not sound like a lot, but rest assured, it is a lot of work.

I didn`t go back for a Master`s degree in biochemistry because, frankly, I didn`t have that level of interest. In addition, the work load and commitment required for a Master`s degree were very incompatible with my job requirements.

Now, the history degree was merely for personal interest and of no tangible (work) value. My employer footed the bill, so I did it. However, a degree in history definitely requires the ability to digest and clearly convey large amounts of information. Each of my senior seminars required a 50 page research paper with primary sources. It may not sound like a lot, but rest assured, it is a lot of work.

If a history degree had no connection to your job, then why did you employer pay for it?

My employer is paying for my masters which isn't at all involved with my employment/work.

For what purpose? Further education? A work-study program?

my employer payed for my made up degrees also.

For what purpose do I go or for what purpose do they pay?

I go because I like the subject and school in general.

They pay as an incentive to get employees (it got me).

Budkow to say the Martin scandal is the worse ever in NCAA history just shows how dumb you are.

We have nothing over what happens down south. Alabama is on probation every few years. Should have had the death penalty at some point.

Your stupidity is only trumped by your ignorance.

Budkow to say the Martin scandal is the worse ever in NCAA history just shows how dumb you are.

We have nothing over what happens down south. Alabama is on probation every few years. Should have had the death penalty at some point.

Your stupidity is only trumped by your ignorance.

And that from a History major as well. LOL

Budkow to say the Martin scandal is the worse ever in NCAA history just shows how dumb you are.

We have nothing over what happens down south. Alabama is on probation every few years. Should have had the death penalty at some point.

Your stupidity is only trumped by your ignorance.

Deny, deny, deny. It won't make it go away. The $600K "skid mark" in the U-M underwear is the largest scandal in NCAA history. Look it up & deal.

I am not denying it has happened, but I am denying that it is worse than what has happened down south.

The UM thing was on a booster who had no connection to the program.

Alabama, KY, Arkansas all have had coaches on staff sending money to HS coaches for players to be steered there way.

I mean it is not like MSU has never been on probation for anything or multiple times. You just get off on the amount of it.

BTW I wish we would have gotten the death penalty. Isnt that basically what Ellerbe gave UM fans anyway?

I am not denying it has happened, but I am denying that it is worse than what has happened down south.

The UM thing was on a booster who had no connection to the program.

WOW, I had to come back from vacation for that dillutional comment. You might want to read up on that situation and how Stevie F. was giving weekly passes to Martin to get kids into games for free. No connection? You're fooling yourself. 600 Thousand. Unreal.

Welcome back, Tre.

Welcome back, Tre.

Thank ya. I was actually getting pissed reading the posts as opposed to bringing heat with a smile on my face as I usually recommend to others. So I needed a breather.

Ok I was wrong Tre and the MSU crew. I hope you guys are happy.

Oh wait, still not the worse thing. One of the worst, but I read the report and it did not say the worse thing in the history just one of the worse. Southern schools cheated 100x worse, 95% of it was never caught.

Again, the original thing is that this is not a big fucking dea with Artis Chambers.

Also, they would not have to forfeit the ND game. This was a Big 10 infraction. UM did nothing wrong in the eyes of the NCAA with Artis.

"Again, the original thing is that this is not a big fucking dea with Artis Chambers."
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This whole issue is fucking ridiculous. Like the U of Mum gained an advantage with some frosh DB from Hooterville, Indiana in on some special teams? Doesn't the Big 10 have anything better to do?

I agree this situation is no big deal. However, you have to punish the school because where do you draw the line? 5 tackles? 10 contributing tackles? Must score a TD? See what I mean.

Yea when OSU gets punished, I'll be ok with it.

Thank ya. I was actually getting pissed reading the posts as opposed to bringing heat with a smile on my face as I usually recommend to others. So I needed a breather.

Did you have a good vacation?

Did you have a good vacation?Yup.

The Big Ten Conference Compliance and Reinstatement Subcommittee ruled today (Thursday, Oct. 4) that the University of Michigan will not be required to forfeit any 2007 football games.

The Michigan Athletic Department reported an administrative error involving Artis Chambers (Fort Wayne, Ind./Snider HS) to the Big Ten Conference Office. Chambers, who retains his athletic scholarship and can continue practicing with the team, will miss the remainder of the season.

Like I said not that big a deal.

Too bad for bukdow that there are rules, and then there are Michigan Rules