Well, the ND game was a gutcheck as ND, albeit not very good, was extremely focused in trying to win, but this game will be against a good team on the road.

Similar teams offensively. Average passing, strong running. However, MSU`s defense is better, and a lot better than many think. Both teams will focus on stopping the run and force the respective passing offenses to win the game. This bodes well for MSU as I believe MSU`s passing offense is better with better personel. MSU has more playmakers on offense in general.

MSU 24

UW 20

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At Madison? Tough game here. I think Wisconsin will win a good hard game, but I'd like to see MSU continue the ride.

At Madison? Tough game here. I think Wisconsin will win a good hard game, but I'd like to see MSU continue the ride.


I have to agree, it's going to be tough for Michigan State to pull this off in Madison. I went to the Michigan-Wisconsin game a few yrs ago when Wisconsin's qb Stucco ran for a qb sneak to win it late in the 4th quarter. It's a pretty loud stadium and I think Wisconsin will be pretty motivated to win after some lackluster games. Plus, didn't ND's rb run for like 115 yds vs MSU? That doesn't bode well for MSU because they have to deal with PJ Hill.

I'm going to say Wisconsin wins 27-20.

Well, the ND game was a gutcheck as ND, albeit not very good, was extremely focused in trying to win, but this game will be against a good team on the road.



What a concept for a sporting event.

What a concept for a sporting event.
ND brought back alumni en masse. They dedicated a statue to Ara Parseghian. They scrapped the trick plays and over-analytical play calling in favor of an attempt at a basic, stout running game and a defensive scheme based on toughness. Compared to their previous games, ND`s approach to the MSU game was indeed extremely focused.

At Madison? Tough game here. I think Wisconsin will win a good hard game, but I'd like to see MSU continue the ride.
I see your point. However, I think the games against UNLV and The Citadel show that UW is definitely beatable, even at home.

I think a Dantonio coached team and a defensive scheme by Narduzzi will be solid. And don`t forget, MSU is going to be pretty damned motivated too. This team wants to make good so bad its ridiculous. And Dantonio is just the coach to keep the bit in their mouth so they can be effective.

No team in the Big Ten is unbeatable this year.

Wisky wins this by 20.

Wisky wins this by 20.
Why do you think that?

this thread makes me smile. i couldnt care less about msu, but two certain annoying pests will make scoreboard watching a pleasure on saturday.

suddenly tre running away makes perfect sense, now knowing state gets its ass handed to it this week. and he has the gall to criticize other people's fanmanship. im wondering if he even went to state.

this thread makes me smile. i couldnt care less about msu, but two certain annoying pests will make scoreboard watching a pleasure on saturday.

suddenly tre running away makes perfect sense, now knowing state gets its ass handed to it this week. and he has the gall to criticize other people's fanmanship. im wondering if he even went to state.
If you couldn`t care less, why do you post? Why do you think MSU will get its ass handed to it? If MSU wins are you going to be a man and own up to your lack of insight or are you going to act like a 14 year old girl who has just discovered Hunter S. Thompson, Jack Kerouac, J.D. Salinger and her own breasts?

I think we have a new bukdowism: extremely focused.
I like it.
But riddle me this, oh Marvelous Maker of Malaprops: Why is it "lack of insight" when a guy makes a prediction that doesn't go right?
You're prediction is based on opinions that are tenuous, at best: That two other games show Wisconsin is "beatable". By that argument, the Pitt game (by the way, Pitt lost last Saturday to Connecticut) showed that the Spartans may not be the team to do it if they are; Second: Dantonio is still an unproven commodity.
A counter argument might go like this: Wisconsin played DOWN to those first two teams.

That said, I agree with your prediction bukdow, and the score looks good also. Pretty cogent.
Now, don't get a big head, other wise you'll be posting that you graduated from Oxford.

"Extremely focused in trying to win"

I prefer the whole damn thing.

MSU wins 24-14, Wisconsin and MSU get touchdowns on turnovers and good second half adjustments by the MSU staff are the difference.

"Extremely focused in trying to win"

I prefer the whole damn thing.

Good call. But the second part I would consider optional. Another rule is that when using a bukdowism, you have to italices, or bold it.

Done.

In 'The World according to Budkant' That MSU win wasn't just a win, it was a win against a team that was extremely focused in trying to win . So MSU's record is 4 and half wins.

UofM's win, on the other hand, was against Penn St who was only mildly focused in trying to win.

Fucking Baggers haven't played a team with a pulse, unless you count Meeechigan, who Appleatin State and Quack, Quack left for dead, since Ron Dayne was there. The douches` found themselves dicking around with fucking Citadel going back and forth. They pull one out in the last minute against the dreaded UNLV whose football team is used to lull retirees to sleep until hoop season begins. They blow. Lets see who shows up on the OL for MSU. If they can piece something together they'll be in the hunt. Cheezitz by 20 my ass. Uh, I'll take the 20, how much?

Neither team has played anyone really. It is a home game for Wisky. I think they got the best player in PJ Hill and T. Beckum and I just dont think MSU will be able to stop them.

Didnt MSU give up like 170 yards to the Pitt freshman RB?

I will say the only way MSU keeps it close is if they keep Hill under 100 yards.

Yup, but the Pitt RB was superfrosh LeSean (sp) McCoy who is presently a better back than this years lighter version of Hill. You may remember he (McCoy) was the #9 player in the country out of Pa. and all set to go to the U of Miami but even those hustlers couldn't get him admitted. Last year he was at the Milford Prep dealio and he ends up at Pitt. He's a great player. I don't know if he got 150 on MSU but I do know 65 were on one play. 5'-11" and 215 and he ran away from EVERYONE. No love for MSU Artemis. I say they hang with them and in doing so it ain't no big thing either cuz Cheezitz sucks.

I still dont see MSU doing better than 6-6. I just see too many holes.

MSU has not played one good offense. They played 1 good RB. If they can hang within 20 of Wisky, I will think they are better than I think right now.

BTW I think UM still sucks and have a bunch of holes. But UM has Hart and that will help, plus only one really good QB left to play in Juice WIlliams who runs and throws.

I still dont see MSU doing better than 6-6. I just see too many holes.

MSU has not played one good offense. They played 1 good RB. If they can hang within 20 of Wisky, I will think they are better than I think right now.

BTW I think UM still sucks and have a bunch of holes. But UM has Hart and that will help, plus only one really good QB left to play in Juice WIlliams who runs and throws.

...Cheezitz has beaten whom...????????? Do you think perhaps MSU might have more "O" weapons than say....uh, The fucking Citadel who rang up 31 on these posers at Camp Randy? Please....

This Wisconsin game will be a true test to see if MSU can continue this destined upsurge. If Dantonio can continue this balance of Hoyer throwing with few INT and the two RB's gaining ground, we can win. MSU 34-21

This Wisconsin game will be a true test to see if MSU can continue this destined upsurge. If Dantonio can continue this balance of Hoyer throwing with few INT and the two RB's gaining ground, we can win. MSU 34-21

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A DESTINY Forty Years in the Making
This is Sparta...FOOTBALL!!!

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Led Sparta to 10-13 record
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Braylon Breaks Their Hearts
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Let's Play Illinois for Homecoming...OOPS
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It may have been started by this man!
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And it was not helped by this MAN!
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We know the DESTINY of Leonidas, The King of Sparta!
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For some reason I would find destined upsurge funnier if it came from budkow.

Balkan, bukdow, what's the difference? They both ride the

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For some reason I would find destined upsurge funnier if it came from budkow.

Did I actually say destined upsurge? That is what happens when I mix religion with football, I speak in foreign tongue.

But don't misinterpet my intentions, MSU is going to win.

300 sucked, and the sparta was always considered athen's little brother.

all historians know that the highlight of any spartan's life had less to do with good things happening to sparta and more to do with bad things happening to athens.

Russell Crowe's a Michigan fan, therefore Gladiator > 300.

300 sucked, and the sparta was always considered athen's little brother.

all historians know that the highlight of any spartan's life had less to do with good things happening to sparta and more to do with bad things happening to athens.
I agree, 300 did suck. It was juvenile and ridiculous. Frankly, I wish the Spartan "faithful" would stop trying to use it as a theme.

I agree, 300 did suck. It was juvenile and ridiculous. Frankly, I wish the Spartan "faithful" would stop trying to use it as a theme.

Must be those "faithful" wo are only connected tenuously, at best.

I am extremely impressed with the adjustments Dantonio was able to make at halftime. Holding Wisconsin to 10 points in the third quarter so far shows that he has arrived. Who knows how many points Wisconsin would have by now if Dantonio and Narducci weren't such defensive geniuses?

I think Sparty just benefitted from a refereeing mistake: Defensive holding on a pass play should be an automatic first down, instead this crew replayed third down.
I need some verification of the rule.
This has been a very poorly officiated game.

Wide left.

A lil bump in that destined upsurge.

I agree, 300 did suck. It was juvenile and ridiculous. Frankly, I wish the Spartan "faithful" would stop trying to use it as a theme.

It is a movie based on the comic book of an ancient factual Greek battle. What did you expect? Something like Troy or Gladiator? I thought it was comical and it hit a climax when the "Immortals" turned out to be orks from Lord of the Rings.


300 sucked, and the sparta was always considered athen's little brother.

all historians know that the highlight of any spartan's life had less to do with good things happening to sparta and more to do with bad things happening to athens.

Are you a student of history B-diddy? Please explain to me why you think Sparta was "Athens's little brother" and if you could. Provide a link to the historians who support your view.

Sparta was a land power, bigger than those states around it, while Athens was a sea power that used its empire to maintain its power to counter Sparta.

diddy can't explain. His connection to Athens is tenuous, at best. He didn't graduate from Athens, he just bought a T-shirt from WalMart that says: "Athens: Sparta couldn't hold our loincloth".
Otherwise, he may have been extremely focused in trying to interject some cogent humor.

Walmart didn't have shirts at that time Zip, they had togas.

Walmart didn't have shirts at that time Zip, they had togas.

Good one!

Thanks Zip.

this thread makes me smile. i couldnt care less about msu, but two certain annoying pests will make scoreboard watching a pleasure on saturday.

suddenly tre running away makes perfect sense, now knowing state gets its ass handed to it this week. and he has the gall to criticize other people's fanmanship. im wondering if he even went to state.
Well, MSU did lose, but it certainly did not "get its ass handed to it."

Thanks Zip.

Hey man, I betta rekkonize when i need to rekkonize!

Good game guys. I wouldv'e been in here posting but I've been pretty much dying all week. Anyway, those two backs are a good punch.

Well good for MSU.

Was this a moral victory by keeping it within 20?

I wouldn't want it any other way now we'll see if Dantonio is really legit in responding to loses which I believe he should be.

Well good for MSU.

Was this a moral victory by keeping it within 20?

How about you and looking at Northwestern's Brown Eye, "the one that stinks not the one that winks", from a 7-16 vantage point? Fucking Northwestern!!! God the fucking nerve to make a crack like that. Was it a moral victory to keep it within 20 of Appleatin' State who got flogged by fucking WOFFORD? Or did you? Was it a moral victory to keep it within 20 of the Quack Attack who got gassed at home yesterday? Oh you didn'y. EYE forget. Fucking Blue Ade guzzling gasbag. "They don't call them A4 for nothing."-Football Fans in 50 States-....I know that stinker you put up yesterday was probably because you were looking ahead to EASTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY BWAAAAAAAAH!!!

I guess you havent watched much MSU the last few years.

My question was legit. Do you feel it is a moral victory keeping it close at Wisky instead of when you got behind by 10 there and fold like MSU has in the past.

Take your shots at UM. I have no problem with it. Every one of them is deserved.

The difference between the NW and the Wisky game is that UM won and MSU lost.

I have already stated over and over that Michigan will struggle with any team that runs the spread.

"The difference between the NW and the Wisky game is that UM won and MSU lost."

Conratulations!! How DID you do it?? Fucking Northwestern.

Well, as Art said, UM deserves the shots.
Henne should have been able to rest his knee another week, Hart should have been able to rest so he has a body left for the last three big games.
Instead, they're Lloyding around with a team that Ohio State beat by 1100 points the week before.

Hip, you've been saying it for years, and I have been agreeing with you: There ain't no shine on this image anymore. This is a middling program that is happy to escape from places like Evanston, Illinois with an ugly win. This is a team that was hoping Apple State would win another championship so a horrible loss wouldn;t look so bad. This is a team that was outclassed at home by a team that will finish 3rd or fourth in their conference.
And they've done it all with a supposed arsenal of returning veteran talent on offense that should have been able to compensate, especially to this point in the season by outscoring or ball controlling everybody til the defense matures.

This ain't no Badd Ass Ohio State type of program.

Well, as Art said, UM deserves the shots.
Henne should have been able to rest his knee another week, Hart should have been able to rest so he has a body left for the last three big games.
Instead, they're Lloyding around with a team that Ohio State beat by 1100 points the week before.

Hip, you've been saying it for years, and I have been agreeing with you: There ain't no shine on this image anymore. This is a middling program that is happy to escape from places like Evanston, Illinois with an ugly win. This is a team that was hoping Apple State would win another championship so a horrible loss wouldn;t look so bad. This is a team that was outclassed at home by a team that will finish 3rd or fourth in their conference.
And they've done it all with a supposed arsenal of returning veteran talent on offense that should have been able to compensate, especially to this point in the season by outscoring or ball controlling everybody til the defense matures.

This ain't no Badd Ass Ohio State type of program.


You can blame Lloyd all you want. He for sure has some due him but with the returning talent at U-M and the shit they come out with week after week? There's something going on in that locker room and nobody keeps shit under the lid as well as U-M does. Maybe it was on here that someone said Johnny Sears got kicked off for fighting on the team bus? If it wasn't here it was on Rivals. You guys have players man and I just don't get it. Again there is something going on in that locker room.

The next banana peel will be Illinois. I've said it since I saw them lose a toughie to Missouri. They're fucking good and "Juice" Williams, Mendenhall and Aurelius Benn (whoooooah) are going to go nuts.

I'm pretty sure that Illinois beats UM.

I'm pretty sure that Illinois beats UM.

I was thinking about you as Erickson laid waste to Stanford last night. FYI that is the first win in the State of California by my beloved Sun Devils since 1999. Koetter, now the OC @ Jacksonville, was "O-fer Cali" during his tenure. Soft Mother Fucker.

I have been saying for weeks that the Illinois games is the one that scares me the most.

While UM may have lost some of its sheen, did you notice that a lot of teams have lost it at this point. Texas. Barely beat UCF and Arkansas St before getting their shit handed to them by KSU.

Michigan has talent, but not the talent to stop the spread...well I think they have that talent, just not the coaches to get them coached up enough to stop it.

I will never understand taking B. Graham out of the fucking game in nickel situations to put Crable as a DE.

Go to a 5 man line.

UM needs to get a coach like Saban (not the sleazy parts). Someone who tells his guys if they cannot cover for 1.5 seconds then they wont be on the team. That is how to stop the spread. Load up the box go after the QB and dont give up all those little dinks and dunks. You are going to give up the occasional 50-80 yard TD run/pass, but I would rather have that then watch what I have to see week in and week out from UM.

Can MSU beat UM this year....absolutely. Will it happen, yeah if Coach D runs some kind of spread offense.

I guess you havent watched much MSU the last few years.

My question was legit. Do you feel it is a moral victory keeping it close at Wisky instead of when you got behind by 10 there and fold like MSU has in the past.

Take your shots at UM. I have no problem with it. Every one of them is deserved.

The difference between the NW and the Wisky game is that UM won and MSU lost.

I have already stated over and over that Michigan will struggle with any team that runs the spread.

My problem with that thought is that we never really had a problem keeping it close against good teams, we have had problem against bad ones.

We took UM to OT 3 straight years, right? Beat Wisconsin in 04. ND has always been close, even though they'll go to a BCS game, and we wouldn't make a bowl. Ohio State a few times.

I'm pretty sure that Illinois beats UM.

I saw one of the best seal blocks in that game. Illinois was at the goal line and the WR(?) came in and just pancaked the DE allowing the RB to bounce it outside.

Illinois seems to be well coached.