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Glenn
09-18-2007, 11:29 AM
"McCosky on Flip Saunders" sounds like a bad gay porno.

:mccosky:

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Flip Saunders visits with Rip Hamilton on "Eddie Money Night" at a recent Detroit Shock game.


Feisty Saunders still fighting back

Chris McClosky / The Detroit News

AUBURN HILLS -- Flip Saunders has a chance, a good chance, to accomplish something no Pistons coach has been able to do since Chuck Daly left.

Last three full seasons on the job.

"What's that been, like 12 years?" Saunders asked.

Try 15. Daly left after the 1992 season. The Pistons have employed eight coaches since, none has completed three full seasons.

"Is that right?" said Saunders, who will ring in year three of his four-year deal when camp opens Oct. 1.

"I think most coaches consider every year as a lame-duck year (laughing). We've had great success here. We have won as much or more than anybody the last two years, we just haven't gone out and won the big one. And until we do that our approach, our focus, isn't going to change.

"I don't look at it any differently. I don't think you can ever be in a situation where you can look over your shoulder. If you did, you could never coach."

Until about a month ago, nobody could have blamed Saunders for at least sneaking a peek over his shoulder.

He was roundly vilified after the Pistons flamed out in the playoffs for the second straight season. Not only was he taking heat from fans and media, he was also taking heat from some of his players.

Ben Wallace took public potshots at Saunders after the Pistons were knocked out of the playoffs by Miami in 2006, and he took some more shots after he signed with Chicago a month later.

Last season, Rasheed Wallace openly challenged Saunders during the pivotal loss in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals against Cleveland. He exhorted his teammates to disregard the coach's instructions late in the game, which ultimately led to disastrous defensive breakdowns and a fatal loss.

On top of that, Saunders was asked, for the second straight season, to revamp his coaching staff. After his first season, Sidney Lowe (North Carolina State) and Don Zierden (Minnesota Lynx of the WNBA) left to take head coaching jobs. After last season, Pistons president Joe Dumars did not renew the contracts of assistants Ron Harper and Kevin Wilson. He replaced those two by hiring former Pistons forward Michael Curry.

The loss of Wilson (he's now the dean of admissions at Bethany College in West Virginia) was especially tough for Saunders. Wilson has been with him essentially all of his life. He's been like a big brother.

"I miss Wilsy and Sid and those guys, sure," said Saunders, who even offered to pay Wilson's $100,000 annual salary out of his own pocket. "You miss people. When I was in Minnesota, I had the same staff for 10 years. But what this does do, having to teach coaches again, it's helped stimulate me. I am a firm believer that things happen for a reason."

Saunders does seem rejuvenated. There is a bounce in his step and a self-assuredness that belies the public storm he has endured since the end of the season.

"It might sound crazy," he said, "but I am more excited right now going into a season than I have ever been -- even more than my first two years here. I can't even explain why. Maybe it's the combination of the young players we have coming in and everybody talking about how the conference has gotten so much better. But I kind of feel like, 'We're still here. Come on, we're standing here. Come get us."

Positive attitude
It could be, too, that Saunders has been fortified by the steadfast support of Dumars and owner Bill Davidson.

"We have reiterated this to Flip all summer," Dumars said. "He has our full support. There is no second-guessing for us about supporting him."

Saunders has also reached out to Rasheed Wallace, who has lost 25 pounds since last season and has been a daily participant in the Pistons' offseason workouts. The two are on the same page again.

"They have spent some good time together," said Dumars, who vowed to be an active arbitrator in the Wallace-Saunders relationship. "Flip reached out to 'Sheed and spoke at his camp (at the Joe Dumars Fieldhouse in July). They spoke again at Chauncey's (Billups) golf outing. Sheed's been in working out the last two weeks. He and Flip have been great. I am seeing a level of respect and cooperation between them this summer that I haven't seen the last two years. That is imperative for us to move forward."

Saunders isn't expecting a completely smooth ride with Wallace; just mutual respect.

"Are 'Sheed and I going to have confrontations? Yes," he said. "We can get that out of the way right now. I can't be afraid of confrontation because there are things I want done and things I will demand. 'Sheed can be great and sometimes 'Sheed can snap. That's who he is. There's going to be confrontation. But anytime we've had a confrontation, the next day it's like nothing happened."

The one exception, of course, was Wallace's blow up in Game 5. Saunders and Dumars both have made it clear to Wallace that he had overstepped the bounds of professionalism and such behavior will not be tolerated.

"We have talked," Saunders said. "He understands that I respect him and I expect the same type of respect."

Bridges built
Saunders has spent the past couple of months rewriting, page by page, his voluminous playbook. This is a task he would have delegated to an assistant in past years. But suddenly he feels like a first-year teacher preparing his initial set of lesson plans.

"It has forced me to become more detail oriented," he said. "I think this is going to be a big help for me."

He and Dumars have mapped out a plan to hopefully incorporate veteran sixth man Antonio McDyess into the starting lineup alongside Wallace. The plan includes increased roles for young players like Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson, as well as for rookies Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo.

"I think everybody has been invigorated by the infusion of all these young guys," Saunders said. "I know I have."

There have been times the past two years when Saunders seemed like the loneliest guy in Detroit. It seemed he was on an island, surrounded by Dumars and the front office on one side and the players on the other.

Now, with camp less than two weeks off, it seems sturdy bridges have been constructed on both sides and all parties are united.

"I like it here, I really do," Saunders said. "I love the city and I love the people I deal with.

"When you feel people are loyal, the way the fans have been and the way Mr. D. has been and you get beat, you feel like you let people down. That's the emotional part. But, like I said, we're still here and we're still together and we've still got a job to do. I am looking forward to it."

Atticus771
09-18-2007, 11:38 AM
Glad to see that Rasheed won't be directing our guys to ignore the coaches instructions.

Fool
09-18-2007, 12:00 PM
Indeed. He was right though, that zone shit wasn't working on LeBron.

Also, Saunders looks like my creepy uncle in that pic.

Wilfredo Ledezma
09-19-2007, 08:36 AM
I think the whole Sheed/Flip saga is blown way out of proportion...

metr0man
09-20-2007, 01:46 PM
translation: we'll start to think Flip has improved during the first half of the season... by the time we get to the ECF he will get out-coached like a putz and we'll get our asses kicked by a team we beat the previous year... since Orlando aint sh-t, that means the Bulls.

Glenn
09-20-2007, 01:47 PM
I made two jokes that went unmentioned.

I'm sick of you people.

WTFchris
09-20-2007, 01:58 PM
I see the bad gay porno movie one, what's the other joke?

Glenn
09-20-2007, 02:01 PM
They were both pretty weak, actually. The photo caption and the "McClosky".

Can't really blame anyone for not pointing those out, in hindsight.

WTFchris
09-20-2007, 02:05 PM
I missed the caption. Didn't want to touch the gay porno. Sorry.

Balloonsface
09-28-2007, 09:48 AM
The "Eddie Money Night" joke was the winner in my opinion. Flip and Rip enjoying their two tickets to paradise.

Glenn
10-02-2007, 09:22 AM
Pistons hoping Saunders, Wallace can get along

Associated Press
Updated: October 2, 2007, 8:04 AM ET

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- Rasheed Wallace and Flip Saunders insist they're getting along just fine.

"If we weren't, then it would be real hectic around here," Wallace said Monday at the Detroit Pistons' media day. "We're a smooth-sailing ship. No one is trying to jump overboard. Everyone is in it for the long haul, and that's the main thing that makes people comfortable."

Their relationship, or lack of one, seemed to be one of the factors that led to the Pistons' collapse last season.

"I don't think he did anything defiantly toward me," Saunders said. "Are we going to have confrontations? Yes. 'Sheed is a very emotional and animated player, but I know if I challenge him he'll be fine the next day.'

Detroit won the first two games of the Eastern Conference finals only to lose four in a row to the Cleveland Cavaliers, whose home court was the site of Wallace's meltdown and ejection in the final game as he lost control going after an official.

"We didn't reach our ultimate goal last season, and that's always tough to swallow," Pistons president of basketball operations Joe Dumars said. "I don't look for excuses or people to point out as the reason why we came up short. I simply say we didn't get it done and we have to do better."

Antonio McDyess said better chemistry between Wallace and Saunders will be important this season.

"For this team, it's important for everyone to get along for us to have a successful season," McDyess said. "It was pretty rough between 'Sheed and Flip at times last year, but I think they've squashed it.

"When things are not going right, everything comes out. Rasheed wanted to win so bad last year and he took things personal when things didn't go his way."

Wallace, who turned 33 last month, looks and sounds like he's ready to prove he's an asset and not a problem.

He has lost about 20 pounds, according to Saunders, and his teammates are impressed and encouraged by his commitment.

"I was surprised to see 'Sheed in here working out like he did this summer," McDyess said. "He showed me he's really serious about winning this season."

Detroit re-signed Chauncey Billups to a $60 million, five-year contract, with $46 million and four years guaranteed, to help its chances of at least advancing to the conference finals for the sixth straight year.

"My heart was in Detroit," Billups said. "I want to end my career here."