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Glenn
09-17-2007, 11:48 AM
Series at a Glance
Detroit at Cleveland
Mon, Sep 17 - 7:05 pm EDT
K. Rogers vs. P. Byrd

Detroit at Cleveland
Tue, Sep 18 - 7:05 pm EDT
J. Verlander vs. J. Westbrook

Detroit at Cleveland
Wed, Sep 19 - 12:05 pm EDT
N. Robertson vs. C. Sabathia


TIGERS-INDIANS PREVIEW: Detroit must go Byrd hunting

September 17, 2007
FREE PRESS NEWS SERVICES

While C.C. Sabathia and Fausto Carmona have spearheaded the Cleveland Indians' return as one of the league's premier teams, the contributions from Paul Byrd cannot easily be overlooked.

Byrd will try to become Cleveland's third 16-game winner this season as the Indians meet Kenny Rogers and the Detroit Tigers on Monday night at Jacobs Field to begin the final regular-season series between the top two teams in the AL Central.

The Indians have split six home games with the Tigers this year, and lead the season series 9-6.

With a 4 1/2-game division lead, Cleveland (87-62) has a magic number of nine over reigning AL champion Detroit (83-67) heading into this contest. A three-game sweep by the Indians would reduce that number to clinch down to three, almost assuring them of their first division crown since 2001.

After this series, the Indians' schedule to close out the regular season is favorable - three at home with Oakland, four at Seattle and three at Kansas City.

But the Tigers could find themselves back in the postseason. They won their fifth in a row by beating Minnesota 6-4 on Sunday to cap a three-game road sweep. Detroit has scored at least four runs in 10 straight games, going 8-2 in that stretch to trail the New York Yankees by 2 1/2 games for the wild card.

Detroit's final three series after visiting Cleveland are against the bottom three teams in the Central -- Minnesota, Kansas City and the Chicago White Sox.

Byrd (15-6, 4.34 ERA), enjoying the finest season of his 12-year career, trails Sabathia and Carmona by two wins for the team lead yet has the fewest losses among the three. The right-hander defeated the Chicago White Sox on Tuesday for his fifth victory in six starts, allowing three runs and six hits in 6 1-3 innings of an 8-3 triumph.

"After last year I wasn't excited about the way I helped this team," said Byrd, a 10-game winner with the Indians in 2006. "I felt like I had a lot more to offer. The season's not over but this year so far I've thrown the ball a lot better than last year."

Byrd is 2-0 in three starts against the Tigers this year despite a lofty 5.30 ERA, and will be facing Detroit at Jacobs Field for the first time in 2007.

Last season, Byrd made one forgettable home start versus Detroit. On July 25, 2006, Cleveland gave him a 7-0 first-inning lead, but he was unable to hold it as he gave up seven runs and 10 hits in only three-plus innings. The Indians rallied for a 12-7 win.

Rogers (3-2, 4.50), who pitched opposite Byrd in that contest, faced only 10 batters and recorded just two outs before being lifted from the second-shortest start of his 19-year career.

The 42-year-old left-hander won his first three starts after missing the first 2 1/2 months of the season following surgery to remove a blood clot in his shoulder. That streak was capped by a victory over Cleveland on July 4, when he allowed two runs and seven hits in 5 1-3 innings en route to a 6-4 win, but he then lost two of three starts coming out of the All-Star break before going back on the disabled list with elbow inflammation.

Rogers has failed to record a decision in two starts since being activated on Sept. 5. Against Toronto last Monday, he gave up two runs and nine hits over 6 1-3 innings, but Detroit needed a four-run ninth inning to pull out a 5-4 win.

Rogers has alternated wins and losses in his last six starts in Cleveland, and is 6-8 with a 6.51 ERA in 18 career starts there.

The Indians will try to avoid losing consecutive games for just the second time since Aug. 25. Victor Martinez matched a career high with his 23rd homer and Franklin Gutierrez and Casey Blake also drove in runs in a 4-3 loss to the Royals on Sunday.

Martinez is on an 11-game hitting streak, but is batting just .271 (16-for-59) in 15 games against the Tigers with seven homers and 18 RBIs this year. He's hitting .307 for the year.

Detroit's Magglio Ordonez, considered a leading contender for the AL MVP, was 3-for-10 with no homers or RBIs in the series against the Twins. Facing Cleveland this season, though, Ordonez is batting .404 (23-for-57) with four homers, 14 RBIs and 16 runs.

He also needs two hits to reach 200 for the first time in his 11-year career.

MoTown
09-17-2007, 07:06 PM
Byrd is one seriously ugly dude.

Atticus771
09-17-2007, 09:03 PM
5-2 in the 7th inning. Yanks are up, too, unfortunately. Go Orioles!

Tahoe
09-17-2007, 09:30 PM
FUck fUck Fuck

Timone
09-17-2007, 09:30 PM
FUCK ZUMAYA.

Matt
09-17-2007, 09:30 PM
SHIT.

Atticus771
09-17-2007, 09:31 PM
ZUMAYA?!?! Unreal. Nothing like turning a 5-2 lead into a 5-5 game.

MoTown
09-17-2007, 09:32 PM
I hate the tribe.

Atticus771
09-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Gotta win this one! The Yanks are going to win, and we can't afford to lose any ground.

MoTown
09-17-2007, 09:38 PM
By the way... LEARN HOW TO SPELL YOUR FUCKING NAME JOHNNY!

I refuse to be beat by someone who is illiterate.

MoTown
09-17-2007, 09:47 PM
Maybin w/ the steal... DON'T STRAND HIM!

Atticus771
09-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Way to go, Leyland. Put in the youngster who doesn't know how to run the bases.

MoTown
09-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Ugh.

darkobetterthanmelo
09-17-2007, 10:19 PM
fuck a betancourt

Timone
09-17-2007, 10:37 PM
Fuck it, this game isn't worth any more of my time. Have fun guys.

Timone
09-17-2007, 10:42 PM
There go my alpacas too. Fucking insult to injury man.

Atticus771
09-17-2007, 10:45 PM
There go our chances for the Wild Card, let alone the Division. Dombrowski needs to do something to bolster this team for next year.

b-diddy
09-17-2007, 10:46 PM
there goes the season. rats.

only slightly disapointed, btw. i said before the season that this is all i needed. playoffs were too high of expectations, and the tigers have more than enough excuses. still looking forward to next year in a big way.

Tahoe
09-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Where did we get Miner from?

darkobetterthanmelo
09-17-2007, 10:54 PM
ask glenn

Hopefully andrew miller/bonderman develop a changeup, and JJ takes someones place in the rotation, because this season is done

b-diddy
09-17-2007, 11:10 PM
i think maybe david eckstein might be a good pickup. slide carlos to first. if we hold onto pudge, we'll be set. if shef retires bringing in hunter seems pretty logical.

it looks like we have six starters going into next year if we keep rogers, and gotta keep jurjens in the mix.

Balkan
09-18-2007, 12:06 AM
Is Zumaya still aching from that finger injury? Those three runs wouldn't have happened if the normal Zumaya was in there.

MoTown
09-18-2007, 08:34 AM
Detroit sports are being owned by Cleveland right now.

And I work remotely with a company based in Cleveland. This morning's conference call sucked.

Glenn
09-18-2007, 12:14 PM
If the season wasn't over before last night, it might be now.

I hope Zumaya isn't ruined.

WTFchris
09-18-2007, 02:58 PM
I didn't realize it last night because I had been out of town, but apparently that was the first time Joel has ever pitched 3 days in a row. Joel said that wasn't a factor but I think he's lying.

There were also some horse shit calls by the ump on balls and strikes (all night).

Tahoe
09-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Haffner with a 3 friggin run friggin bomb for a 4-4 tie.

Tahoe
09-18-2007, 09:10 PM
This team makes you want to...

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4294/dognutzuj8.jpg

Timone
09-18-2007, 09:48 PM
Well, I'm gone from the MLB board until April most likely. Bye.

gusman
09-18-2007, 10:53 PM
YEAH tis over

Balkan
09-18-2007, 10:58 PM
We can still make the playoffs if the Yankees blow the wild card lead. However, if we don't win then all I ask is our players don't get hurt during the offseason.

Glenn
09-19-2007, 12:37 PM
If anyone still cares...



R. Raburn CF
P. Polanco 2B
G. Sheffield DH
M. Ordonez RF
C. Guillen 1B
M. Thames LF
M. Hessman 3B
M. Rabelo C
R. Santiago SS

WTFchris
09-19-2007, 12:56 PM
Has Cleveland manufactured one run this year? Seriously, all they do is hit HR's.

MoTown
09-19-2007, 01:41 PM
Kind of like the Tigers of last year.


They'll be bad again next year... I hope. I can't handle hearing anymore about how great of a sports town Cleveland is.

Tahoe
09-19-2007, 02:50 PM
Swept!

WTFchris
09-20-2007, 12:41 PM
Can't beat the Tribe -- The Tigers went 6-12 in their season series with Cleveland. The Tigers out-hit the Tribe in the 18 games, .292-.260, but Cleveland hit 32 home runs to the Tigers' 17.