Well, I already won our wager. Remember? You wagered UM would go undefeated,win the National Championship and Pitt would beat MSU. I wagered the opposite on all three accounts. We agreed that whoever got 2 out of 3 right was the winner. Looks like I won. Now, the question is, will you honor your bet?

Wil wrote: We'll see right off the bat when they hardly beat UAB how great of a show he's running...

lol @ Wil.

its not wil's fault that lloyd is such a great sport that he not only refuses to run up the score but now insists on letting the other team win so they feel better about themselves.

lloyd carr is a scholar and a gentleman.

Yeah Lloyd just thought it would mean more to the App. State players to win the game than it would for the Michigan players to win the game.

Lloyd for president!

I knew Wil Ledezema was a chump. He jumped into the forum talking all kinds of garbage and I guarantee we won't see him for the rest of the season unless Michigan makes a run and wins the BT. Well, at least he demonstrated how little he knows with his statements about UM and about Mark Dantonio.

Sorry, I haven't been online much this past weekend, sorry I couldn't come on sooner, yes I was wrong...Michigan will not go undefeated nor win a National Title...

but...unlike Michigan State, Michigan will go to a bowl game...

MSU = 6-6

And I would love to see Michigan State Vs. Appalachian State...I won't get into predictions, but I'm pretty sure I know who would win...

Ledezma:
I would bet my house on MSU beating Apple State if the game were in East Lansing.
This is something only Lloyd could, and has, accomplish.

Ledezma:
I would bet my house on MSU beating Apple State if the game were in East Lansing.
This is something only Lloyd could, and has, accomplish.

Thank you very much Zip. Wil is just playing the lame ass cop out. Well if Michigan lost to them, then I guarantee State would lose to them. Bullshit. Dantonio would have actually prepared for the game.

I'll take your Michigan and Michigan State predictions with a grain of salt Wil because you've already proved you don't know shit and you speak from pure bias and that's it. Good prediction on the State game. I think you said they'd barely win and we'd all know what kind of show MD is running. How does 55-18 sound?

I disagree. While it's absolutely outrageous that the coaching staff didn't have Michigan prepared for App. State, that doesn't take away from the fact that they are a pretty good football team. Now, are they good enough to where they were supposed to beat Michigan?? Absolutely not. But needless to say, regardless of the coaching staff getting a team prepared to play, your athletes have to do all the work. Michigan State wouldn't beat App. State, and I would bet anything I own of any value on that, any day of the week. Regardless of WHO is coaching the Spartans...


Dantonio hasn't done anything to impress me yet. He was supposed to slaughter UAB. That win means nothing. John L. Smith would've had this team prepared to beat UAB...

We won't know wether or not Dantonio is a great coach this year, b/c he's stuck w/ all of John L's scum recruits. If Michigan State finishes anywhere above .500, I will be VERY impressed.

check that, EXTREMELY impressed.

I think/have always thought MSU makes a bowl.

I disagree. While it's absolutely outrageous that the coaching staff didn't have Michigan prepared for App. State, that doesn't take away from the fact that they are a pretty good football team. Now, are they good enough to where they were supposed to beat Michigan?? Absolutely not. But needless to say, regardless of the coaching staff getting a team prepared to play, your athletes have to do all the work. Michigan State wouldn't beat App. State, and I would bet anything I own of any value on that, any day of the week. Regardless of WHO is coaching the Spartans...


Dantonio hasn't done anything to impress me yet. He was supposed to slaughter UAB. That win means nothing. John L. Smith would've had this team prepared to beat UAB...

I'm sorry but nobody cares whether or not you think MSU would beat App. State. It doesn't matter. You twisting the outrageously embarrassing moment and trying to pull State in is WEAK. Take the embarrassing moment like a man and quit trying to toss State into the situation somehow.


You claim Dantonio was supposed to slaughter UAB. THEN WHY DID YOU SAY HE'D BARELY BEAT THEM????????????

Nobody has predicted crazy success this year. You are arguing against nobody. The only arguement you'll find is whether or not MD is a good coach and I'll bet my wheels that he is one and he's already proved a small part of that to me with the discipline, toughness, and team attitude he's brought to MSU.

Notre Dame looked like crap, Michigan looked worse, and MSU looked like the best team in the state on saturday. Screw the polls, screw every other bias you have, MSU exceeded expectations and Michigan flat out flopped. Just eat your crow, but don't try and eat it with a side dish of Michigan State.

I disagree. While it's absolutely outrageous that the coaching staff didn't have Michigan prepared for App. State, that doesn't take away from the fact that they are a pretty good football team. Now, are they good enough to where they were supposed to beat Michigan?? Absolutely not. But needless to say, regardless of the coaching staff getting a team prepared to play, your athletes have to do all the work. Michigan State wouldn't beat App. State, and I would bet anything I own of any value on that, any day of the week. Regardless of WHO is coaching the Spartans...


Dantonio hasn't done anything to impress me yet. He was supposed to slaughter UAB. That win means nothing. John L. Smith would've had this team prepared to beat UAB...
You are the biggest dumbass on this board. xanadu is an asshole, zippy is a twit and b-diddy is petulant and unrealized, but you are a complete, unabashed dumbass.

xanadu is an asshole.

i prefer arrogant asshole.

i prefer arrogant asshole.
You have nothing to be arrogant about. You are a Wal-Mart Wolverine. Deal with it. You are merely another pleather wearing fan.

There's nothing wrong with pleather. I'm sitting here in pleather bra and panties as I type this.
AND, I'm being cogently arrogant while doing it!

You are the biggest dumbass on this board. xanadu is an asshole, zippy is a twit and b-diddy is petulant and unrealized, but you are a complete, unabashed dumbass.

unrealized? c'mon. its practically a compliment.

sparty's can have their fun all fall. michigan can run the table, beat up osu, win a bowl game for once, and we still aint living this down.

so squak away.

Well, Wil Ledezma keeps racking up the terrible predictions. I believe he also said before the season that State would lose to Pitt. Has he gotten anything right this year?

Well, Wil Ledezma keeps racking up the terrible predictions. I believe he also said before the season that State would lose to Pitt. Has he gotten anything right this year?

Yes he has. I believe he called you an "asshole" on or about May 26th.

Well, Wil Ledezma keeps racking up the terrible predictions. I believe he also said before the season that State would lose to Pitt. Has he gotten anything right this year?


If Pitt. had their starting QB Stull in...then MSU would've lost...also they didn't have Gus Mustakas, their top defensive player, and their starting RB (McCoy isn't the starter...yet)

Yes he has. I believe he called you an "asshole" on or about May 26th.


I never called anybody an asshole...unless your from Cleveland

If Pitt. had their starting QB Stull in...then MSU would've lost...also they didn't have Gus Mustakas, their top defensive player, and their starting RB (McCoy isn't the starter...yet)

MSU went into the game without 2 starting offensive lineman, finished the game without 4 of the their starting offensive lineman, did not have starting strong safety Nehemiah Warrick who was out, did not have their #1 corner Kendell Davis Clark, they are still not starting their top 2 WRs (TJ Williams, Terry Love) because they have to earn their way back (discipline). I'd say it was even.

That's why you never say somebody doesn't have a chance of winning. It will bite you.

I will give you credit for the avatar though, unreal.

Don't know what this thread is about, but Wil's avatar made the visit worthwhile.

Well, Wil Ledezma keeps racking up the terrible predictions. I believe he also said before the season that State would lose to Pitt. Has he gotten anything right this year?


I Guess I have...no bowl game for you, how come you have magically disappeared Dr. Tre??? You felt the need to let us know when the Spartans were 4-0...why not now when your 5-5 (1-5)....

asshole

dickhead.

Fucktard.

more like DrGay11.

http://www.warwickworldwide.com/img/news/large/queer%20redone.jpg



There is nothing wrong with being gay. I have gay friends. I've tried it.

I knew Wil Ledezema was a chump. He jumped into the forum talking all kinds of garbage and I guarantee we won't see him for the rest of the season unless Michigan makes a run and wins the BT. Well, at least he demonstrated how little he knows with his statements about UM and about Mark Dantonio.

lol, worth reading again. i would argue post of the year, in hindsight.

tre might consider a different look if he ever plans on coming back around here:

http://www.megginson.com/img/plastic-surgery.jpg

ps tre would just like to point out that he hasnt been avoiding this forum, its just that he's agreed with every post over the past 5 weeks and therefore had no reason to post.

While spying on bukdow I found out that DrTre is active at the same site, SpartanTailgate. No clue why...

No clue why...


Haven't you seen 300??? Spartans stick together when they are outnumbered...

Haven't you seen 300???
I saw the first few minutes and it was gayer than Nathan Lane's Tony award.

Even though Nathan Hale does emote a certain gayness, and won a Tony, many think he's a bit stiff as an actor...

http://www.newlondon.org/html/nathanhale/webNH.jpg